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Title: Henry Makow Looney Theorist Say What??
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URL Source: http://www.henrymakow.com/is-this-deceased-emilie-parker.html
Published: Jan 17, 2013
Author: Henry Makow
Post Date: 2013-01-18 14:45:21 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 953
Comments: 33

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#1. To: GreyLmist, titorite, FormerLurker, RickyJ, scrapper2, christine (#0) (Edited)

oh the shame...

“But never in a million years did I think that the shootings at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, an event that has so traumatized Americans and shocked people the world over, would become the latest fodder for cynical anti-Semites and anti-Israel conspiracy theorists,” Foxman wrote.

" ...in a perfect world this guy would have been arrested for what he did. Think about it.. There has just been a massacre involving children.. The neighborhood is swarming with police. There are six children unaccounted for, about an hour according to Gene. Meanwhile he's serving them juice and giving them stuffed animals to play with while their parents had to have been searching franticly with worry. Instead of being arrested he is paraded across every TV in America as some kind of hero... "

Believe what you want.

(edited for profanity/adhom)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   15:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Excellent article. The one on the pathwhisperer is very interesting as it reminds me of psychopaths I dealt with at school in the administration section as well as at my job.

purplerose  posted on  2013-01-18   15:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Depending on what version is being reported:

1. A little girl who pretended to be dead until the shooting was over for a while was the first child out of the building.

2. Six children ran past the gunman during his rampage and escaped. One boy, 6 year-old son of Robert Licata, reportedly grabbed a bunch of his friends after waiting bravely for them.

3. Six children were gunned down as they tried to escape past the gunman.

According to #2, those are possibly the children that appeared at Gene Rosen's house on his lawn. According to #1 and #3, he's been telling ghost stories.

Edited last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-18   15:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I dispise gene rosen and his nasally whiney voice.

I hope he cracks under the pressure.

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-01-18   16:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anti-semite.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   16:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whenever I hear that term I think of how much I dislike "semite supremacists".

In fact I have found the term acts like "Raid" and tends to disperse zionist roaches.

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-01-18   17:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of course I was joking, but they would have us believe that any "truthers" (remember truth is bad now m'kay) are now probably just antisemites asking pesky questions.

And poor, poor Gene, the veteran grandpa is another unfortunate victim of silly truther questions.

Oh, the shame.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   17:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Take your pick:

www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

"Sandy Hook Hoax Video"

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"Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory "

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/...y_hook_conspiracy_theory/

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-18   19:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My Goodness scrap, why did I not think of just checking Snopes first?

Duh! ;-)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   20:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My Goodness scrap, why did I not think of just checking Snopes first?

Duh, indeed. It disabuses most of your false notions, that's why.

Look I'm not convinced that Adam Lanza was the lone wolf shooter or that he did the massacre because he was a loon ( as opposed to being coached/manipulated by some others on the net).

I am open to considering other possible explanations of the how and why the school massacre occurred.

But as to theories about actors, that the massacre never took place...I think that's pure hogwash kooky theorizing.

If you buy into that stuff, that's your choice. But don't try to insult me by implying I don't know what I'm talking about, that you and your compadres are some kind of geniuses in the midst of dummies at 4um who do not see the light. blah, blah, blah

I just don't happen to believe what you believe about Sandy Hook. That's that.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-18   20:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I just don't happen to believe what you believe about Sandy Hook. That's that.

Cool.

We'll work on that :)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   21:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Okay. Have you seen this? If not please take a look? This is very important, imo and I'm sure that if you knew what I knew you'd agree.

www.youtube.com/results?s.....0.0...1ac.1.Oze275EUKeM

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-18   21:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My Goodness scrap, why did I not think of just checking Snopes first?

If you can't trust Salon, who can you trust?

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2013-01-18   21:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you can't trust Salon, who can you trust?

Hey, if you/wud can't respond to Salon's debunking of various conspiracy theories, then Salon has the last word on the subject.

It's the same with any debate. No credible response means the other side wins.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-18   23:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I looked at it. Did you look at this?

www.youtube.com/results?s.....0.0...1ac.1.Oze275EUKeM

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-19   0:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah Bill.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-19   0:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I soldiered thru Part 1 of the "actors" video clip - it was a waste of my time. I don't intend in going thru all the rest.

I saw shocked grieving parents and a teacher reacting to a tragedy in their own individual ways. I saw ZERO evidence of acting.

Sorry.

Like I said previously. There's question marks about the official story. Things that are still puzzling to me - examples:

1. why it took 15 minutes for the Newton Police Dept to arrive at Sandy Hook school which was a little over 2 miles away via an expressway. Google Directions states that it would take an ordinary citizen 7 minutes to drive that distance from the Police Station. Newton Police with sirens blaring and cars equipped with big V8's should have arrived at the school in 1/2 the time.

Also a State Trooper Detachment was located fairly close to the school via a Freeway with an off ramp directly to the school. The State Troopers were notified by Newton dispatch 5 minutes after the Newton Police got the call, but the Troopers had the benefit of Freeway access, so this would nullify the 5 minute delay from dispatch.

I honestly don't get why it took 15 minutes after the first 9-11 call from the school for Police, Troopers to arrive on the scene. There's some 'xplaining to be done. But what's weird is that MSM, parents are not even asking the question.

2. why there's been so much mis-information about what guns Adam Lanza used to kill the kids, teachers, and himself. It wasw only today that NBC finally issued a correction to its original story about Lanza using an assault rifle. That's more than 30 days for a MSM station to finally get its story straight! Thst's unacceptably too long a span. If I were a Sandy Hook parent whose kid was killed, I'd be hopping mad about the sloppy reporting, mis-information - I'd be demanding a public apology from media and the Newton Police Dept. Yet we hear not a peep from the parents.

3. On the one hand, we have been told that Adam Lanza was a totally handicapped individual, who walked down school hallways touching the walls, who had a series of "breakdowns/crises" at school wherein he could not move, he'd be immobilized, "out there/gone" - his mother needed to be called in at those times to intervene, to kick start Adam, to have him function thru the day. Adam ultimately had to be pulled out of school after grade 10 and home schooled. Adam was such a dysfunctional basket case that his mother told a babysitter not to turn his back on Adam, not even to go use the bathroom. When Nancy Lanza lefrt for a short mini vacation to New Hampshire the same week the massacre occurred, she prepared in advance meals for Adam that he could use while she was gone. blah, blah

But on the other hand we are expected to believe that Adam Lanza had the fore sight to plan an efficient school massacre that took the lives of 26 adults+children, even going so far as killing his beloved care giver, his mother for starters - it's one thing killing children who are strangers, but it's highly unusual statistically speaking for a child to kill a parent, especially a mother; and then after the trauma of murdering his mother while she slept - and why did Nancy Lanza sleep in after spending a restful holiday at a nearby N.H. resort?? - did he have the presence of mind to destroy the hard drive of his computer before leaving his house ( which begs the question - what was on Adam Lanza's hard drive that he feared being discovered by authorities???) **************************************************************************

There are enough legitimate question marks, loose ends to the Adam Lanza-Sandy Hook story without veering off into the tall grass regarding actors and fake deaths. In fact, one could argue that the tall grass thingies give cover to MSM and authorities - they can shrug off questions about loose ends by pretending the questions have no validity, that they're nothing more than conspiracy theories.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-19   1:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I soldiered thru Part 1 of the "actors" video clip - it was a waste of my time. I don't intend in going thru all the rest.

I saw shocked grieving parents and a teacher reacting to a tragedy in their own individual ways. I saw ZERO evidence of acting.

Sorry.

You should be sorry and not for seeing "ZERO evidence of acting", but for not watching it with an open mind and for thinking it's a waste of your time. You'll have to drop any and all prejudices or preconceived notions of what happened or didn't happen and suppose you KNOW NOTHING before you watch it. Then watch a few more videos, like part 2 and 3 of the Sandy Hook Actors. We're not talking about the odd anomaly with one of the parents. We're talking about ALL THE PARENTS are obviously acting. Take a look like you really want to learn something here for a change. Do that and tell me what you think otherwise don't bother me as I'll just see you as another pseudointellectual scratching at the surface - and you'll be wasting MY time.

Hahahahaha snopes...

at first I thought you were kidding.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-19   10:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But on the other hand we are expected to believe that Adam Lanza had the fore sight to plan an efficient school massacre that took the lives of 26 adults+children, even going so far as killing his beloved care giver, his mother for starters - it's one thing killing children who are strangers, but it's highly unusual statistically speaking for a child to kill a parent, especially a mother; and then after the trauma of murdering his mother while she slept - and why did Nancy Lanza sleep in after spending a restful holiday at a nearby N.H. resort?? - did he have the presence of mind to destroy the hard drive of his computer before leaving his house ( which begs the question - what was on Adam Lanza's hard drive that he feared being discovered by authorities???)

scrap, I don't believe for one second that Adam Lanza was the perpetrator in this massacre. as with 9/11, I can't say for sure what really happened, but I can say what didn't.

christine  posted on  2013-01-19   10:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't trust Snopes.come as a reliable source at all.

purplerose  posted on  2013-01-19   22:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you can't trust Salon, who can you trust?

I don't trust Salon or snopes for anything of a political nature. Too biased.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-19   23:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't trust Salon or snopes for anything of a political nature. Too biased.

Yeah, you two have convinced me.

Snopes and Salon cannot be trusted.

It is much more believable that there was no Sandy Hook School massacre.

The event was scripted with actors playing roles.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-20   0:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is much more believable that there was no Sandy Hook School massacre.

The event was scripted with actors playing roles.

I didn't say any of that. The fact that I don't believe what I know to be biased sources says nothing negative about me. You might trust snopes to verify some wild email unless it is something negative about their hero, the Kenyan, but they are certainly not to be trusted on anything political. Same with Salon.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-20   0:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not saying that you actually believe snopes and salon are unbiased, are you?

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-20   0:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not saying that you actually believe snopes and salon are unbiased, are you?

What net "source" of information isn't biased?

You think the "sources" others are posting @ 4um aren't biased?

Imho, off the wall theories about actors and the school massacre not happening kick dust, muddy legitimate questions about loose ends, contradictions to the "official" story.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-20   1:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, everyone has their biases but it is important to note that snopes and salon would claim that they aren't biased. And it is very obvious that they are. And I never said that nothing happened at Sandy Hook. Exactly what happened and who caused it to happen are still open questions to me.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-20   1:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, everyone has their biases but it is important to note that snopes and salon would claim that they aren't biased.

Exactly what happened and who caused it to happen are still open questions to me.

Every source would claim objectivity. Otherwise who would believe them.

Salon and snopes are left politically, but how does that make their sites untrustworthy regarding articles published there as responses to some of the notably kookie theories being promulgated in cyber space and @ 4um?

Do you only want to read "articles" about actors and no massacre happening at Newton?

I provided links to snopes and Salon because they represented the other side to wild-eyed( imo) theories that seem to be getting center stage here.

If you have truly kept an open mind to what happened in Newton, then you should be as critical about the credibility, biases of articles posted here regarding actors and no massacre happening. I may have missed those questions you raised previously regarding wud's and GreyLmist's sources.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-20   1:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am sure that some bad things happened at that school. I am equally sure that I don't trust sites like snopes and salon to tell me the truth about what happened. There is enough in the way of anomalies that make the whole thing stink worse than a barrel of rotten fish. I will tell you what I believe and that is that it was another false flag operation like 9/11. Then of course the question is, do I believe that the government, or some elements of the government, would actually kill a bunch of children? Why not? They willfully and knowingly kill innocents every day with their damnable wars and drone attacks and the people who died in the attacks on 9/11 were victims of the government. So far as I know all, or at least most, of those were innocent people. So yes, if if furthers the ends of the government I believe they are capable of killing as many innocent people as they believe is necessary.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-20   8:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

do I believe that the government, or some elements of the government, would actually kill a bunch of children? Why not?

Yep, I'm with you there about certain elements (CIA anyone?) not thinking twice about such "a mission." That bridge was crossed years ago in other nations. Why would it be any different on American soil?

What gave a bit of realism previously to the idea that Adam Lanza might be the lone wolf was the fact media and the pathologist repeatedly said that Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster rifle.

But on Friday NBC came out with a correction to the story. NBC now says Adam Lanza used guns, not the Bushmaster, to kill 26 people.

That fact in itself pulls the rug from under the "official" story in a big way.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-20   14:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you can't trust Salon, who can you trust?

Hey, if you/wud can't respond to Salon's debunking of various conspiracy theories, then Salon has the last word on the subject.

Guess I should have included a "sarcasm" tag.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2013-01-20   22:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory "

www.salon.com/2013/01/18/...y_hook_conspiracy_theory/

Rebuttal at Post #14 of 4um Title: Adam Lanza Never Took the AR-15 into the school

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-21   5:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your rebuttal is hokum. Sorry, all your theories are based on kook speculation.

I have a headache after reading thru that post.

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-21   15:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your rebuttal is hokum. Sorry, all your theories are based on kook speculation.

I have a headache after reading thru that post.

The Salon article by Alex Seitz-Wald is kook speculation and the official narrative is hokum. I think your headache is probably more attributable to an undue resentment-hangover because of my having disputed the conventional indoctrinations on Executive Orders.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-25   1:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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