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Title: Whatever Happened to Global Warming?
Source: Globe and Mail
URL Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/comm ... global-warming/article7725145/
Published: Jan 24, 2013
Author: Margaret Wente
Post Date: 2013-01-24 15:04:10 by scrapper2
Keywords: global warming questions, climate change scams
Views: 173
Comments: 12

Are you freezing? Join the crowd. Arctic air is sweeping across Canada. Snow and ice are wreaking havoc on Britain. Russians are dying from the cold. And Germans are sneaking into forests to cut down trees because their fuel bills are so high.

Hey! Whatever happened to global warming?

That’s a naive question, of course. Everybody knows there’s little or no connection between daily weather events and climate change (except when there’s a heat wave, a hurricane or some other natural disaster, in which case global warming is invariably to blame). Experts will tell you that our bitter winter weather proves nothing about climate change – that the world is still warming up at an alarming rate.

Well, maybe not so alarming. Global temperatures have now held steady for 16 years. They levelled off around 1997. The latest data come from Britain’s weather and climate agency, the Met Office, which says you can’t draw any conclusions from such a short span of time. Still, the data are proving awkward for leading climatologists, who are reluctantly admitting that their projections have their limits. Nor is the news likely to increase support for activists such as NASA scientist James Hansen, who warned, in an interview with The Guardian back in 2009, that Barack Obama had only four years to set an example for the world and avert disaster.

I’m not questioning the basic science of global warming. The last decade was the warmest on record, and the next one may be even warmer. My point is that our uncertainty about the future is rather great. Our economic models turned out to be lousy. Why should our climate models be better?

“Climate models do a poor job of making predictions on decadal time scales,” Judith Curry, the head of the climate science department at the Georgia Institute of Technology, told me in an e-mail. “Climate models capture some elements of climate change, but they have deficiencies in the simulation of natural internal variability.”

In other words, climate change is very, very complicated. Greenhouse gases emitted by burning fossil fuels are just one of many factors that affect the climate. Other factors – ocean temperatures, soot, clouds, solar radiation etc. – turn out to be a lot more important than we thought and aren’t so easily captured by computer models.

I’m also skeptical about our ability to do something intelligent about it. Some of our policy responses to climate change have been a complete disaster. The European Union had the bright idea of setting up a system to trade carbon emission permits. So how has that worked out? The recession came along, and today the permits are all but worthless. According to the Swiss bank UBS, the scheme has cost European consumers about $280-billion for “almost zero impact” on carbon emissions. Meanwhile, artificially high electricity prices have made many European industries uncompetitive.

The trouble with many well-intentioned climate policies is that the law of unintended consequences works overtime. Take the sorry history of biofuels, which were supposed to green up the world by substituting for fossil fuels. The rush to biofuels has caused massive deforestation, disrupted commodity markets and pushed food prices to record highs. Poor people are suffering so that rich Europeans can get 10 per cent of their fuel from renewable sources by 2020 – all in the name of saving the planet. Meanwhile, governments are extracting hundreds of billions of dollars from frigid German and British consumers to pay for extravagant subsidies of uneconomic solar and wind power sources. (That’s why the Germans are cutting down trees this winter.)

Many people say the risk of climate change is so great that we need to act now, because doing something is better than doing nothing. But that’s not always true. So far, global warming policies have probably done far more harm to the planet than global warming has. Climate change is still rather poorly understood. Climate policy is hard. We should be humble about what we know – and what we don’t.

Now bundle up.


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"Some of our policy responses to climate change have been a complete disaster. The European Union had the bright idea of setting up a system to trade carbon emission permits. So how has that worked out? The recession came along, and today the permits are all but worthless. According to the Swiss bank UBS, the scheme has cost European consumers about $280-billion for “almost zero impact” on carbon emissions. Meanwhile, artificially high electricity prices have made many European industries uncompetitive."

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

The world should bring a class-action suit against algore and all the rest of his asshat-warming associates.

What a colossal scam and fraud!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-24   17:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#0)

In other words, climate change is very, very complicated.

When these boobs thought the data were trending their way, climate change was so very, very simple.

Now that they're freezing their asses off it's very, very complicated.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-01-24   17:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge, scrapper2, Lod, all (#2)

climate change

That's their answer for why it's not getting any warmer.


"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-24   18:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Whatever Happened to Global Warming?

"It's chillin"

We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being metaphorically raped every day?

noone222  posted on  2013-01-24   18:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#0) (Edited)

British Govt.

Not a reliable source. They would have us believe that the chemtrails are helping keep global warming in check.

Edit:

"Global temperatures have now held steady for 16 years. They levelled off around 1997." (~British Govt.)
They're controlled by the Rothschilds who own the aluminum manufacturers, (one of) the main beneficiaries of the chemtrail industry.


"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-24   18:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#2)

When these boobs thought the data were trending their way, climate change was so very, very simple.

Now that they're freezing their asses off it's very, very complicated.

Astute - thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-24   19:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Whatever Happened to Global Warming?

They figured out you have to take away a persons guns before you come for their appliances.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2013-01-24   19:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#1)

The world should bring a class-action suit against algore and all the rest of his asshat-warming associates.

What a colossal scam and fraud!

I would rather be gored by a boar than bored by a Gore.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-24   21:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

I find most boards, boring.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-24   21:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

BTW - I had to get the iMac (purchased 2011) up and going, starting Saturday past, and I'm finally, really loving it.

For some reason, speakeasy.net/test/ says that I'm now connecting at 30-35Mbps, which is an all time record high here.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-01-24   21:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#10)

I figured you would love the Mac. I've never had one but everyone I know, or know of, who has one love it. And that is great speed, lots better than I get.


"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-01-24   22:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach, Lod (#11)

I've got a Mac and it's been the very best purchase I have ever made. I love NO Viruses!

scrapper2  posted on  2013-01-25   1:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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