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Title: Not even a gun range had enough good guys with a gun to stop one bad guy with a gun
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Published: Feb 3, 2013
Author: BigFurHat
Post Date: 2013-02-03 15:03:26 by Itistoolate
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The Assholedness of the “Daily Koshole” Community The news of the murder of American war-hero sniper Chris Kyle is a sad one, and I was positive nary a tear would be shed over at the Koshhole. These morons never disappoint, and “diarist” Lefty Coaster was all aboard the stupid train and picking up passengers along the way. One thing is sure. If there’s not enough of Wayne LaPierre’s “good guys with a gun” at a shooting range where ALL of the good guys have a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, then how will more guns conceivably make us any safer? !snip! Where do you start with this idiocy? I guess in this moron’s fever dream this was the scenario: Hundreds of “Gun Nuts™” were lined up shooting paper targets and a guy walked in and started shooting randomly at the patronage and Chris Kyle was shot and killed while all of the “good ol’ boys” just stood there pissing themselves as the gunman took off unabated in Kyle’s truck. No, moron. The details are vague. What is known is that Kyle and his friend were shot by a man suffering from PTSD. He then took off in Kyle’s truck. The two victims were found dead HOURS LATER. This didn’t happen in the presence of a firing line, you jerkface. Now, to address your other idiocy. Suppose a maniac actually did go into a firing range and started firing? I would bet that most of the people there to shoot wouldn’t be immediately aware it was even happening, what with the OTHER SHOTS BEING FIRED OVER AND OVER ALL DAY LONG!!!! You idiot. But I highly doubt he would leave the range alive if he stood there firing at people as if they were Adam Lanza’s unarmed and helpless victims. Comments from the Koshole Klan: “Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and many friends of former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle tonight. Todd and I first met Chris in Pella, Iowa, when he helped out with security for the premiere of the film “The Undefeated.” And later we became friends with Chris when he was on “Stars Earn Stripes” with Todd. Chris was a wonderful man, a good friend, and a true American hero who loved our country and served honorably. He was loved and admired by so many, and he will never be forgotten.” – Sarah Palin Gack. Here is one of my favorites! It came up in my journalism ethics class. See, the ex-Marine who wrested the gun from the would-be assassin was gay. IIRC, the ex-Marine was not armed. But he saw this guy pull the gun and he brought him down. Why my ethics class? B/c the Marine wasn’t yet out, and someone outed him w/out his permission. The hero Marine was — gasp — gay! So: gay Marines don’t need guns. REAL men don’t need guns to defuse gun violence. Hear me, NRA? Damn! If only Chris Kyle was gay! And then you have these armchair big brains who have as much information on this story as most, which is little. But that doesn’t stop them from blathering. You know the type. You’re probably forced to be around them on Thanksgiving The victims “…were shot while helping a soldier who is recovering from post traumatic stress syndrome at a gun range…” Somehow you have to wonder why a PTSD sufferer is at a firing range to be helped. WTF!No kidding, huh? Fuckin’ PTSD (1+ / 0- and let’s put a gun in his hand to “help him”. In The Annals of Therapy (0+ / 0-) I would say taking a guy with PTSD to a gun range is probably foolhardy at best. I suspect these guys were trying to do DYI therapy. They probably have no real knowledge of PTSD or the current treatments. PTSD is very tricky. Please don’t try DYI therapy unless you’re credentialed, trained and up on the latest research. What a shame. Who said the shooter was at the range for “shooting therapy”? What Koshole did they pull this out of? Not even a gun range had enough good guys with a gun to stop one bad guy with a gun
Not only did they not stop him killing (35+ / 0-) they also let him get away in the victim’s truck
Doesn’t sound like this was sanctioned in any way by anyone who knows anything about the syndrome.
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)
Does anyone besides me the the convenience, and the argument that the socialists will use now? Just a week or so ago, we had 3 shootings at 3 different gun shows on the same day. Now, a trained military sniper, killed a gun range by someone who apparently fled the seen in the vehicle that was driven there by the two dead men. The shooter is characterized as a ptsd vteran. So, the socialists will say all veterans with ptsd are dangerous. Gun ranges are dangerous. Not even a trained sniper could prevent a murder from happening. Do you know who ptsd people kill the most? Themselves. Which tells me that were looking at another convenient lie. "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
This story is beginning to smell.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I suspect that LaPierre's repeated, hysterical, announcements that the govt is revving up to confiscate guns or at least make a list of gun owners for that purpose, has incited a handful of unstable gunowners to act out their hostilities right now. That's why we've had a wave of shootings in just the last six weeks. In actuality, the govt is not considering any proposal that takes a gun away from someone legally entitled under current law to have it. And if the govt wanted a list of gunowners, all it would have to do is seize the NRA's membership list.
b. And if the govt wanted a list of gunowners, all it would have to do is seize the NRA's membership list. a. and you know this how? you are acquainted with someone who is acquainted with someone who programs The Bammer's Thoughts for the Day Teleprompter script? b. and the gov't would do this "seize" thingie how without a search warrant which of course would not be given by any Judge with 2 brain cells to rub together? Wakey, wakey Shoon - you are not living in Stalinist Russia anymore. Yes the USA has started to go down the crapper but we're not the USSR quite yet.
Settle down, folks. This was a private and *exclusive* gun range: deer season is over, I'm guessing that they were the only people on the range at the time. It's happened to me, I show up and have the place to myself for quite a period of time depending on the time of year I show up. In addition, the Fort Worth Stock Show and Rodeo is going on for three weeks, that draws in A LOT of people from all over the countryside, and then there were people planning Super Bowl activities. IOW, it would be the perfect time for a very private range session. That's the most logical conclusion and I don't have any doubts that's exactly what happened. P.S. Rough Creek Lodge covers 11,000 acres.
#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist, 4 (#1)
#3. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#4. To: Shoonra (#3)
a.In actuality, the govt is not considering any proposal that takes a gun away from someone legally entitled under current law to have it.
#5. To: Itistoolate (#0)
(Edited)
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: X-15 (#5)
I'd think that RoughCreek.com would be packed.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#7. To: Lod (#6)
With rates starting at $310 per person/per night and rapidly escalating, that thins the herd real fast this time of year. In addition, I'm guessing that Chris Kyle would prefer to get use of the pistol range on an exclusive basis for dealing with "wounded warriors".
-Alex Kurtagic
#8. To: X-15 (#5)
4um Title: Military's deadliest sniper killed on gun range of resort near Glen Rose I'm guessing that they were the only people on the range at the time. It's happened to me, I show up and have the place to myself for quite a period of time depending on the time of year I show up.
Witnesses told sheriff's investigators that the gunman opened fire on the two men around 3:30 p.m., then fled in a pickup belonging to one of the victims. The Sheriff's Department didn't get a call until around 6 p.m.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#9. To: scrapper2 (#4)
How interesting that you live in a country where the govt would more readily seize guns from 70 million residences than the membership list from one address. Believe me, the NRA's membership list would be a prize that the CIA, NSA, or some other spy operation could steal from the NRA without breaking a sweat. and the gov't would do this "seize" thingie how without a search warrant which of course would not be given by any Judge with 2 brain cells to rub together? Wakey, wakey Shoon -
#10. To: Shoonra (#9) (Edited)
Believe me, the NRA's membership list would be a prize that the CIA, NSA, or some other spy operation could steal from the NRA without breaking a sweat. The first instance is realistic - death through a 1000 bureaucratic paper cuts kind of scenario. The second instance - umm - doubtful that the NRA head quarters is not armed to the teeth and willing to shoot on sight any nerdy gubment types dressed in cheap suits and wearing sunglasses. And furthermore as for our wonderbar spy agencies' insider intel - err...didn't our CIA/NSA/etc allege that Uncle Saddam having WMD was a "slam dunk" case? also didn't our same spy agencies have out-of-date maps so we bombed a Chinese Embassy by mistake, which almost got us into WWIII as a result. I put my bets on the NRA having better security on their membership lists than we have security in Fort Knox. How interesting that you live in a country where the govt would more readily seize guns from 70 million residences than the membership list from one address.
#11. To: scrapper2 (#10)
Your NRA membership nets you American Hunter and/or American Rifleman magazine(s). They are mailed to NRA members via the United States Postal Service. I put my bets on the NRA having better security on their membership lists than we have security in Fort Knox.
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: X-15 (#11)
Right. The US Postal Service. That symbol of plugged in, giant brained, gubment employees, known for their Kraut-like efficiency and snooper dooper expertise. Ho hum. Yawn. I think the NRA's membership list is safe unless the NRA decides to contract their mailings thru Fed Ex. They are mailed to NRA members via the United States Postal Service.
#13. To: All (#7)
Dallas, Texas – Chief Chris Kyle (USN) and his trusted friend, Chad Littlefield, were tragically killed on Saturday, February 2, 2013, by a troubled veteran whom they were trying to help. Chief Kyle lived by a personal motto that "it is our duty to serve those,who serve us," and he and Littlefield died honoring this creed. Above all else, Chief Kyle was a unique individual and an amazingly loving father, husband, son, brother, friend and devout Christian who had a profound effect on the lives of those he touched. Chief Kyle was publicly known for being the President of Craft International LLC and the author of the best-selling book, American Sniper. Chief Kyle, a former Navy SEAL, served four Combat tours in Operation Iraqi Freedom and elsewhere. For his bravery in battle, he was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, two Navy and Marine Corp Achievement Medals, and one Navy and Marine Corps Commendation. After retiring from the Navy, Chief Kyle founded Craft International LLC, a military and law enforcement training company, and was involved in numerous charities, including co-founding FITCO Cares Foundation, and other charitable events benefiting wounded and disabled servicemen and women returning from combat. "Chris was a true American hero having devoted his adult life to serving his country in combat as a member of the U.S. Navy SEALs and in training our military and law enforcement personnel after leaving the Navy. Chris was also an extremely devoted family man – a wonderful husband and loving father. He gave so much of his time to charitable causes that assisted military personnel and their families and died while trying to help a struggling service member. We are all saddened by his tragic death. America lost one of its finest sons and a true patriot. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Kyle family" said Steven Young, Craft's CEO. Mr. Young requests that the media respect the privacy of the Kyle family and friends while they grieve the loss of Chief Kyle. Details of the memorial service and funeral will be released at a later time. Respectfully Craft International
-Alex Kurtagic
#14. To: All (#13)
STEPHENVILLE — The suspect who killed former Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle and another man at an Erath County gun range on Saturday used a semi-automatic handgun, investigators said at a Sunday afternoon news conference. They could not say whether suspect Eddie Routh owned that weapon. Routh, a 25-year-old Iraq war veteran, was moved early Sunday to a jail in Stephenville, where he is being kept in a cell by himself for observation. He was said to have asked for the necessary paperwork to provide a court-appointed attorney. Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant offered a detailed timeline of what happened Saturday at Rough Creek Lodge, a resort located 53 miles southwest of Fort Worth. At 3:15 p.m., Chris Kyle, Chad Littlefield and Routh enter Rough Creek Lodge and go to a remote shooting range. "To my knowledge, this was the first time they were to gether at the gun range," Bryant said. At 5 p.m., a hunting guide at the lodge finds the victims, who appear to have been shot and killed. He calls 911 and deputies arrive to confirm the deaths. It is quickly determined that the suspect took Kyle's distinctive black pickup truck, and a bulletin is issued for that vehicle. Eddie Routh drives to his sister's home in Midlothian and tells her and his brother-in-law what he had done. He leaves, and she notifies police. Police find him at his home in Lancaster around 8 o'clock, along with Kyle's pickup truck. Lancaster police, Dallas County Sheriff's deputies, the Highway Patrol and other law enforcement agencies surround the house, make contact with Routh and begin to talk with him. "At some point, he was able to leave the home and get back in the vehicle and leave," Sheriff Bryant said. He was unable to explain how Routh was able to get away, but it led to a pursuit. "Around 9 p.m. they spiked his tires, the vehicle was stopped, and he was apprehended without any scuffle or fight," the sheriff said. Routh was transferred to Erath County early Sunday morning and charged with one count of capital murder and two counts of murder, although District Attorney Alan Nash said the eventual charges will be two counts of capital murder. Bond was set at $3 million. Investigators said they had yet to develop a motive for the crime, and that Routh has not admitted or confessed to the murders. "Basically, we have two victims and one suspect in custody and now is when the work starts," said sheriff's department investigator Jason Upshaw. "Our overarching goal is to seek justice," Nash added, noting that additional official information would be minimal. "If we work through [the news media] instead of the court process, it taints the process." "It's a sad day," Upshaw noted. "We lost two American heroes. My heart goes out to the families and their loved ones." The Associated Press contributed to this report. www.wfaa.com/news/local/I...starting-into-Navy-SEALs- murder-189578491.html
-Alex Kurtagic
#15. To: X-15 (#14)
I don't see the guy as a hero at all. He bragged about killing people for crying out loud and then made up a story about punching Jesse Ventura in a bar that Ventura completely denied happened and was going to take legal action against him for claiming that. I can't feel bad about this guy getting killed at all. Maybe the guy who shot him will brag about it like he bragged about killing people.
God is always good!
#16. To: RickyJ, Hmmmmm, 4um (#15)
Check out this post #45 by Hmmmmm. The dude was a psychopathic monster.I don't see the guy as a hero at all. He bragged about killing people for crying out loud and then made up a story about punching Jesse Ventura in a bar that Ventura completely denied happened and was going to take legal action against him for claiming that. I can't feel bad about this guy getting killed at all.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: X-15 (#14) (Edited)
At 3:15 p.m., Chris Kyle, Chad Littlefield and Routh enter Rough Creek Lodge and go to a remote shooting range. "To my knowledge, this was the first time they were to gether at the gun range," Bryant said. At 5 p.m., a hunting guide at the lodge finds the victims, who appear to have been shot and killed. He calls 911 and deputies arrive to confirm the deaths. It is quickly determined that the suspect took Kyle's distinctive black pickup truck, and a bulletin is issued for that vehicle. Eddie Routh drives to his sister's home in Midlothian and tells her and his brother-in-law what he had done. He leaves, and she notifies police. Police find him at his home in Lancaster around 8 o'clock, along with Kyle's pickup truck. Lancaster police, Dallas County Sheriff's deputies, the Highway Patrol and other law enforcement agencies surround the house, make contact with Routh and begin to talk with him. "At some point, he was able to leave the home and get back in the vehicle and leave," Sheriff Bryant said. He was unable to explain how Routh was able to get away, but it led to a pursuit. "Around 9 p.m. they spiked his tires, the vehicle was stopped, and he was apprehended without any scuffle or fight," the sheriff said. Sources cited at post #8: Edited for strikethrough and spelling. Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant offered a detailed timeline of what happened Saturday at Rough Creek Lodge, a resort located 53 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
Witnesses told sheriff's investigators that the gunman opened fire on the two men around 3:30 p.m., then fled in a pickup belonging to one of the victims. The Sheriff's Department didn't get a call until around 6 p.m.
The timeline has morphed to exclude those witnesses along with their statements about when the shooting occurred and observations that the gunman fled in a victim's pick up truck. The new info tells us that the victims arrived at the lodge at 3:15 and a hunting guide finds the victims an hour and 45 minutes later at 5 p.m., then he calls 9/11. Deputies arrived at some point and confirmed the deaths, not emergency medical personnel. Nobody in particular determines that the suspect must have taken the pickup truck and a bulletin is issued for the vehicle. The gunman drove the truck to the home of his sister and brother-in-law, confessed to them, then left to go home and she notified the police at some point. They didn't find him enroute to his house. They found him and the pick up truck at his place sometime after he got there. They surround the house and talk to him, but somehow he escaped in the unsecured pick up truck. He was apprehended without a ruckus after they spiked the tires of the truck around 9 p.m. Nevermind the problems with that latest offishal storyline from the "Ministries of Truth". What we can still presume with some certainty, same as before, is that the victim's family will probably have to get the truck out of impound eventually, after paying some towing and storage fees and arranging to get different tires.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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