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Title: Former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
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Xeni Jardin at 6:41 pm Mon, Feb 4 Slaying victims Alex and Macaila Marshall with their father, Phillip Marshall. The apparent murder-suicide was discovered at the family home in an upscale gated golfing community in Murphys, California. According to local news reports, teen friends of Alex Marshall, 17 (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), and Macaila Marshall (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), 14, noticed the siblings had not been active via text or social media updates since Thursday and went by the house on Saturday to check on them. The last posts made by either child to Instagram and Facebook were dated Thursday night. The friends told police that when they arrived, they found Phillip Marshall, 54, "lying in a pool of blood inside the home," his 9mm Glock nearby. Deputies believe the children were shot while sleeping on a couch. The family dog was found shot to death in a nearby bedroom. Marshall's estranged wife Sean, the children's mother, was out of the country at the time. Phillip Marshall has been identified as a former pilot for Eastern and United airlines. He self-published a number of books, including at least two about his 9/11 conspiracy theories: "The Big Bamboozle" (February 9, 2012) and "False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" (July 29, 2008). A previous novel published in 2003, "Lakefront Airport, New Orleans," detailed his claimed experience as a pilot for the US during Iran/Contra. In his books and his social media bios (including multiple Facebook accounts, his Twitter account and a Tumblr), he claims to have served as a contract pilot for the CIA's Special Activities Division during the Iran-Contra affair, flying shipments to and from Nicaragua. He appeared on "outsider truth" shows like Coast to Coast to promote the theories in his books that 9/11 was an "inside job," the result of a plot between the US government and the Saudis. From his author bio on Createspace.com, Amazon.com's self-publishing service: Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians. I am unable to confirm the veracity of the claims in his self-authored bio at this time. A Facebook page for "The Big Bamboozle" showed posts as recent as January 31 with titles like, "WHAT IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HIDING?," "THE ARAB WORLD KNOWS THE RAID WAS A HOAX," and posts about the Bin Laden assassination having been faked. "PICTURES PAINT A THOUSAND WORDS," read one such Facebook post from Marshall about photographs of the assassinated Al Qaeda leader. "Since bin Laden died in 2001, these would be "alleged" photos of bin Laden. Give us a break." He once also pitched those theories to a television news journalist with whom this blogger is acquainted. A young friend of the two slain teens with whom this blogger is personally acquainted described them as "sweet, funny, lively, good kids." A tweet from Macaila on January 25: Would it be wrong if I threw my cat with his claws retracted at my dads face right now?... #pissoff— Macaila Marshall (@MacailaMarshall) January 25, 2013 Photos from the siblings' Instagram feeds suggest that they were outgoing, well-liked by friends, and loved one another very much. In one, Macaila is in the hospital after a "golf cart accident," with her father sitting in the background. In the last self-portrait she posted on January 28, her brother blows a hair dryer at her while she goofs in the mirror. "I pretty much just wanted to say how great of a big brother you are," Macaila writes to her brother in another Instagram caption, "I love you so much!" A family photo Instagrammed by Alex shows the boy at a much younger age. In it, he is helping his father mow the lawn with a toy lawnmower. Macaila Marshall, from her Facebook profile. Poster Comment: L.A. Times - Two teens killed by father in apparent murder-suicide, officials sayFormer pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
Phillip (alternately, "Philip") Marshall, 54, a career airline pilot who claimed to have once served as a contract pilot for the CIA and DEA during the Iran-Contra affair, shot and killed his two teenage children, and the family dog, then killed himself. 
Philip Marshall, a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. 
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#108. To: GreyLmist, Lod, christine (#102)
I posted it on Sunday night - 02/10 ( I mis-remembered the date). It was the same Wired original source as you posted today. freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re....cgi?ArtNum=153087&Disp=0 Title: DHS Watchdog OKs ‘Suspicionless’ Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border Source: Wired 25 views, 0 comments *I take no personal offense at O responses. I will continue to post articles/ my opinions on 4um when I can, because christine gives us all a wonderful gift ( rare these days when political correctness reigns supreme)- an non judgmental platform @ 4um to exercise our free speech rights.*
Amen. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken “Think about this,” Marshall said last year in a written statement, “The official version about some ghost (Osama bin Laden) in some cave on the other side of the world defeating our entire military establishment on U.S. soil is absolutely preposterous.” Agreed. [sic] I am 100 percent convinced that a covert team of Saudi intelligence agents was the source of logistical, financial and tactical resources that directed essential flight training to the 9/11 hijackers for 18 months before the attack,” Marshall wrote. References: 2. Coast to Coast Video of Interview with Philip Marshall at Post #39 Behind 9/11 : Whistleblowers Susan Lindhauer & Philip Marshall 02.11.2012 1) 0:38:12-0:38:34 - Hijackers came to LA Jan 15, 2000 and were tracked by FBI for 18 months, most of that time during the last year of Clinton's administration. 2) 1:09:54-1:10:56 - Marshall's info connections that remain in the spook world; has to be very careful about [discussing] that 3) 1:10:57-1:11:46 - secretive airbase: lucrative parts market; various other points of interest through 1:20:42. 4) 2:16:40-2:17:09 - speaks highly of Obama and Holder I get the impression at the 4th listed timestamp coordinates above that Marshall was a Democrat. Also, from his seeming Clinton-amnesia re: the majority of the 18 month period he stresses more than once concerning FBI tracking of the alleged hijackers from their January 15, 2000 point of entry here, referenced at the 1st of the listed timestamp coordinates. The 2nd of the listed timestamp coordinates is where I think he may have been targeted with a hit. Of course, he may have had other info that whoever wanted to squelch but I haven't seen or heard anything highly controversial from him about 9/11. Of particular interest to me, as a 9/11 No Planer, is the lucrative plane parts market info at the 3rd listed timestamp coordinates. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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Just reading some of the updates at santabarbaravew.com: Phils friend February 9, 2013 at 8:16 pm # Went to memorial for kids today. We had a separate one for Phil afterward. No one: neighbors, family or friends believe he did this. Sorry you folks did not get a chance to know him. From what I understand the investigation is ongoing.j ********************************************** rainbowsally February 10, 2013 at 2:36 am # What the American people (and the people of Calaveras County) deserve are honest, intelligent answers. 1. Did the detectives that offered the “sleeping on a couch” theory comment on an active investigation? If not what were they doing there. 2. Were they “local” deputies? 3. What are the names, specifically, of the deputies that advanced the ‘sleeping on a couch’ theory? The theory: 4. Can the coroner comment on an active investigation? The coroner debunked the deputies’ theory, offering new one. Says it’s a good question as to whether whether or not they may have been drugged because they “appear to have been sleeping”. 5. How does the coroner determine whether or not a corpse had been sleeping before being killed and also acknowledge that a 9 mm glock firing may have awakened one or the other of them? The coroner apparently has been able to dial in the time of death. How does one dial in the time of waking up from a gun shot? In fact as long as we appear to be struggling to make a little sense here, who was most likely killed first, the dog or the people? 6. Are they doing ballistics tests on the bullets fired? Do the bullets in the victims (possibly including the dad) match the weapon found in the house? 7. Will this investigation be handled competently? If the guy looking for work down at EDD can do a better job, why not save a few bucks and replace those who can’t. 8. According to this article, Calloway said the Sheriffs themselves at least at one point had a question as to whether or not this was a triple murder (after the initial deputies’ theory). So, did the Sheriffs call Calloway to ask her opinion on whether this was a murder-suicide or a triple murder or did they not? *********************************** john February 10, 2013 at 1:06 pm # I ask anyone who has the moral fortitude and inner strength to come forward to his defense. If he and his children were murdered, please do not let his/their death be in vain. Please. *********************************** DS Holter February 11, 2013 at 12:56 am # He was on C2C a few weeks before this hit on he and his family. He said then that if anything happened to him, it was not a suicide. He made it very clear *(This should be easy enough to confirm) ********************************** there is more-
Cool nic and great homepage. Glad you joined us here. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken This is indeed TREASON. These bums have no authority to do this to anyone. It would be right and just to resist them to the fullest capacity that we are able. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I really like the vid on your homepage. I've said all along that it is the psychotropic drugs that the shrinks give to the kids that are to blame for the school shootings. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Thanks for the directions. Left a note there. Indeed it is a very wonderful gift. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I don't understand? Why aren't people trying to arrest the sheriff and his deputies? Seriously. They are covering up a murder. That means they are guilty themselves for all we know they pulled the trigger... maybe they didn't one thing is for sure, they did not investigate this crime properly. Go to there homes, intercept them as they drop off their kids to school, pick them up at the barber BUT ARREST THE LEOs that cover up this crime by claiming murder. Arrest them. _______ Their are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
This is indeed TREASON. These bums have no authority to do this to anyone. It would be right and just to resist them to the fullest capacity that we are able. ;) I fully agree and think we have more than enough reasons to remove America's Constitution and our government from the grip of the Treasonous -- similar to how they manuever to remove our rights from us only quicker and more ethically by deeming them Secessionists. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There is afoot, a new Secessionist movement. I figure, though, that it will go down to defeat. The only way to fight them is by a guerilla war. This would be tough to do, but remember, they did it in Red Dawn, the movie, and were successful. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
There's no reason for Patriots to secede. It's our nation and our Constitution, not the plunder of the Treasonous. They have seceded from our Constitutional Republic and system of government.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Second hour of Phillip Marshall on Coast 2 Coast 9/9/12 Poor audio quality, missing first hour. At least the date is established. Nothing really new here, just posting for the record. I have locked facebook out of my computer (127.0.0.1) so I can't research the pages Captain Marshall talks about, maybe someone here is a member and can see what is there. Also, now that the date of the 2nd interview is known, maybe someone can find the first hour. Just trying to clarify if Phillip Marshall said what was posted in #112 above: He was on C2C a few weeks before this hit on he and his family. He said then that if anything happened to him, it was not a suicide. He made it very clear @42:25 Wells: "Say, how much exposure are you and I pulling right now by talking about this? Well Phillip- you were a great American. You tried. Some of us will try not to let you down Here is the link to the page with the .mp3 Audio: Phillip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/09/12 Save it to disk- we must not let this mans words go down the rathole Edit: the correct date of the interview is 9/8/12. It's available at the Coast 2 Coast website behind a pay wall. Can't buy it now.
Audio: Phillip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/09/12 Save it to disk- we must not let this mans words go down the rathole Edit: the correct date of the interview is 9/8/12. It's available at the Coast 2 Coast website behind a pay wall. Can't buy it now. Thanks for your efforts. Followed the disc.yourwebapps.com link above that you posted to the bottom of the article there: Then from that link to the top of the page at apfn.org for the mp3 audio file re: the 2nd hour of Phillip Marshall on Coast 2 Coast 9/8/12: Synopsis at coasttocoastam.com on the first hour of that Philip Marshall interview (with access there to both segments for paid memberships): 9-11 Attack & Terrorism Threats - Shows - Coast to Coast AM Date: 09-08-12 Host: John B. Wells Guests: Robert Gleason, Philip Marshall He spoke about the extraordinary skill required to pilot a Boeing 757 at high speeds at low altitude, and to navigate the aircraft to a single building from 270 miles away (distance when hijackers took over the plane). Marshall said he attempted the Washington DC attack himself in a simulator and, despite his 20 years of experience flying Boeing airliners and 15,000 hours of flight time, it took him four tries to hit the Pentagon. "To suggest that this was the first time that guy had ever flown a 757 is absolutely impossible," he stressed. According to Marshall, the 9/11 hijackers were tailed by the FBI from the moment they landed in Los Angeles on January 12, 2000. They learned to fly on small aircraft and simulators then, after George W. Bush became president, started disappearing into the Arizona desert for days at a time, he disclosed. Marshall believes the hijackers were trained at a CIA-operated airport, Pinal Air Park, by a Saudi group from an aviation charter that operated Boeing aircraft. He connected the people in charge of Pinal to Wall Street and ultimately to Dick Cheney, and suggested that President Bush knew enough not to scramble fighters to intercept the hijackers. Edited for spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Lod says that only Texas can legally secede because it is written into their Constitution. I do see your point, though. It IS our government and we should take it back from the plundering banksters who have stolen it from us. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
finally something new worth posting- "rainbowsally", posting at santabarbaraview.com has dug up some stuff at waynemadsenreport.com that sits behind a pay wall- here's an excerpt: Friends said Marshall was looking for more seclusion. Marshall, who believed that the Bush family, allied with Saudi and neo-conservative interests, pulled off the 9/11 attack to engineer a government coup d'etat, was working on a fourth book that promised to reveal some new blockbuster information. Neighbors and friends of Marshall contradicted a number of Calaveras County Sheriff's Department findings about what they quickly concluded was a murder-suicide by a crazed killer. Furthermore, one close professional colleague of Marshall believed a federal "black ops" team prevailed upon the Sheriff's Department to come up with the rapid murder-suicide explanation. WMR learned from a local media source in Calaveras County that the Sheriff Gary Kuntz is dragging his feet on providing local newspapers with two critical reports: the toxicological report on Marshall's and his son's and daughter's bodies and the GSR (Gunshot Residue) report on the bullets fired from what was reported to be Marshall's 9 mm Glock, which neighbors reported was never loaded. Marshall's body was found at the end of a long hallway leading from the unusually unlocked front door. Neighbors said that if Marshall was responding to a suspicious entry, he would have grabbed his gun from the kitchen and gone toward the door. Neighbors believe that Marshall was shot as he turned into the hallway from the kitchen, which is off the living room space where his children were found shot to death on separate portions of a sectional couch. In addition to the crime scene being investigated by unknown personnel after it was opened to the public, neighbors noticed that a side door of the Marshall home at 1259 Sandalwood Drive in the gated community of Forest Meadows, near Murphys, was unlocked and ajar. Neighbors stated that the door was never opened and hardly used. The Sheriff also stated that no gunshots were heard by neighbors on the evening of January 31 or early morning of February 1 because the houses are far apart. In fact, the houses are extremely close together and one neighbor stated she could "hear Phil whistling from inside his house." Police immediately denied that a silencer or other noise suppression device could have been used in the four shootings that included single shots each to Marshall, son Alex, daughter Macaila, and Shih-tzu dog "Suki," the latter found in a bedroom. One neighbor reported hearing an unusual noise during the evening of January 31, a Thursday. There are pictures at Some links from Sally that I won't have time to look at until later- http://rainbowsally.net/rainbow/poli/docs/PhilipMarshall/Man%20Shoots%20Children%20then%20Himself%20in%20a%20Murder-Suicide.pdf http://rainbowsally.net/rainbow/poli/docs/PhilipMarshall/Update-Correction_on_Murder-Suicide.pdf http://rainbowsally.net/rainbow/poli/docs/PhilipMarshall/PhilipMarshallhitmadetoappearassuicide.pdf Two of the above are press releases from the sheriffs’ dept. and one is kept out of the mainstream for unknown reasons. But the purpose of this post is to demonstrate that it is possible to see this ‘investigation’ in two different lights. You’re going to have to get out and PUSH a little, Murphy. The mud is pretty deep here. This goes back to at least the anti-war days… not just Cheney/Bush. (Ctrl-F and find “Kevin Moran” on this page.) I have finally had time to start to carefully read Phillips blog at It's well worth reading-I'll post some important paragraphs later.
It makes more sense that he and his kids were killed than him going crazy. I don't think he really had any revealing information about 9/11 though, he just thought he did. The Saudi connection to 9/11 is really only there to point the finger of blame at them if the truth starts to come out instead of the real perpetrators of 9/11, Israel and the Mossad/CIA. The planners of 9/11 thought things out very well. They have many ways to avoid being seen as the culprits even if people figure out it was an "inside job."
God is always good!
Epic fail. Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort. Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken There are pictures at www.fileden.com/files/201...madetoappearassuicide.pdf Some links from Sally that I won't have time to look at until later- rainbowsally.net/rainbow/...%20a%20Murder-Suicide.pdf “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Epic fail. Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort. Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day. Whatever damaged the Pentagon that day, the evidence is that there was no move at any time to go to DEFCON 1 - imminent attack; attack in-process. Even though Marshall suggests that the alleged hijackers received Boeing pilot training and Boeing flying experience at Pinal, that doesn't do much to explain the Pentagon strike-scenario manuevers. Whether those maneuvers were rehearsed beforehand a number of times on a flight simulator or in the air at the risk of malfunction, for each practice attempt the presumption would have to be, imo, that no Military interference and no flight path diversion was assured. Edited last sentence for clarity. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
heads up wayne madsen on alex jones talking about phillip marshall right now http://www.prisonplanet.com/ edit: Wayne Madsen will be on Alex Jones newscast tonight 2/19/13 sometimes Alex's news program can be seen here: or just search Alex Jones Streaming and by the way, here's a fantastic source for TV on your PC
The training (which they failed miserably) was only a cover. Wayne Madsen is now on AJ's program. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken That "plane" flew for how long after they knew something was terribly wrong? Not a single picture of that plane released to the public except for the gas station video that doesn't really show a plane? People had cameras on cell phones then. Not a single picture taken by cell phone? The most secured airspace and the most secured building in the world, and not a single photo of the plane in flight. Not sure if Phillip Marshall's entire theory should be thrown out just because he thinks a plane hit the pentagon. Maybe it did. There are good arguments for it after all (I.E. the picture of the "turbine" in the wreckage but the lack of photographs is just utterly unbelievable.
Was listening to the Alex Jones show with Madsen but it shut off. On a sidenote, it's weird how big alternative media sites like Alex Jones', Veterans Today and others are apparently dropping the ball deliberately on exposing Sandy Hook as a PsyOp charade by their seeming deflection from the evidence that Adam Lanza died before the supposed shooting. Edited sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Checking with Amazon, The Big Bamboozle, using Prime can be delivered here for $11.68. As much stuff as I order through Amazon, the annual fee for Prime (which means free shipping) is a bargain. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken A great benefit of my olde WinXP machine croaking was plugging in the iMac OS X (purchased spring '11) and for some reason connecting at twice the speed of the XP, instant-on for iHeart radio, and all the other internet broadcasts that I listen to. It really is amazing. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken a .mpg of his entire show is usually available a few hours after the broadcast here
Apparently he was working on a new book. Hopefully someone can find the manuscripts. That might be interesting. His argument for bringing Kalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) to trial is very convincing. I think he was shining light on things that were long overlooked or covered up and it just might have made a difference. The excerpts on his blog are rational, fact packed and not widely discussed. I don't think for one second this man killed his kids. This is a crime of the highest order. The more one looks into this the more questions arise.
Epic fail. Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort. Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day. That alone makes me think this guy is either a moron, or is a disinfo agent himself. If he is a disinfo agent, it is possible he and his kids weren't really killed and that he is living undercover somewhere else now. God is always good!
If you actually read the excerpts from his blog here I'm pretty sure the funeral for his kids wasn't faked. Hundreds turned out at The Bret Harte Union High School in Angels Camp, CA to remember Alex and Macaila Marshall, both former San Marcos High School students. Alex and Macaila were killed in the double murder, suicide involving former Hope Ranch pilot and author, Phillip Marshall. Alex and Macaila’s aunt delivered the eulogy while their mom, Sean Marshall, closed the ceremony with emotional remarks. “Being in Turkey and getting the news, it was almost unbearable,” she said. “When I heard of this devastation, there are no words ever to explain the emotions, the hurt, the regrets. I couldn’t hear God at that moment. I couldn’t hear his answers why, why would you do this? Why them? Why me?” Sean concluded, “Hug everyone, love everyone, be kind.” http://www.santabarbaraview.com/alex-and-macaila-marshal-remembered442552/comment-page-1/ If he's Not a "moron" and his kids really died, what then?
obamacide He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide! “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken If Phillip Marshall had documents that threatened the present government of the US-- does the NDAA actually authorize his assassination? How did the US get to this point? Let's face it, most of the population deserves a police state and the loss of the Republic. Not all of us, but certainly a majority. I can't begin to describe all the times I've begged and pleaded with my "friends" to pay attention and wake up- the last big example being the Health Insurance Ripoff and Enslavement Act-- but even when told that the Feds were going to Require these numbnuts to actually buy insurance and send in proof to the IRS with their 1040's they yawned and went back to sleep. I can't wait to hear the protests next year, but I've become partially sadistic these days.
No argument there. If you haven't, please read The Law - Fredric Bastait to get a really clear grip on .govs, the governed, and what happens when there's more takers than makers. (We're there) Crystal clear break-down on the subject. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken If he thinks a 757 hit the pentagon then he is a moron or disinfo agent, those are the only possibilities, because a 757 most certainly did not hit the pentagon. I am not saying he and his kids weren't killed, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been putting out disinfo. It could have been to lend credence to his "opinions," to make people think he was on the right track. The elite will do anything to cover their crimes up, including killing their paid disinfo agents. God is always good!
I think it was more likely the Mena related stuff that got him wacked. Although he MIGHT have been talking to the wrong, or maybe the right people concerning 9/11 or other matters, who knows. If anyone could do a deep investigation of what he was up to in the past year before his death, it might point towards the involved parties. It might have nothing to do with anything we know about. Agree. Mena-mention could still have the 'toons whack ya. Seriously. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I'm just curious- have you read his blog? Any chapter? Anything more than what's here? I just heard someone on a radio program bring this up and the host didn't let the caller speak more than 2 sentences about Saudi involvement before he was cut off completely and then the host went on for about 4 minutes saying talk of Saudi involvement was rubbish and the only thing anyone should concentrate on is the Dancing Israelis. And this host likes to think he's open minded...He couldn't evaluate other info- he didn't want to even hear anything that didn't fit what he already "knows" happened. It was pathetic. Hmmm...This get's more interesting literally Every Single Day Edit to add: Many reviews at Amazon are interesting http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboozle-War-Terror/dp/1468094580 for example: Absolutely A Must Read June 9, 2012 Having read Susan Lindauer's Extreme Prejudice and Sibel Edmonds Classified Woman, I read this astounding, concise and succinct book not once but twice. I knew about the shenanigans of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Pearle, Libby and the rest of the nut bags and their ideological call for an invasion of Iraq in the late 1990's. If you read this short well documented book, you will come away appalled at the conspiracy of Junior, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and company to recreate another "Pearl Harbor" to further their dream of a new police state. I will remind readers again about the interview in October 1967 in Playboy magazine in which District Attorney Jim Garrison said: "In my own experiences, Fascism is coming to America in the form of National Security". How prescient. Thirty four years later, that is what we have become. Forget the main (lame) stream media, do your own homework. I think Mr. Marshall's call for a trial of KSM is absolutely critical and one has to wonder why the "Intelligence Community" and the extreme right wing fear this trial. We can't try in open court a defeated, tortured man whom the government claims masterminded this horrific crime? I did read Compromised by Terry Read, and Iran-Contra is important to this story. Bush 41 has been running a shadow government for over 30 years. Many of the same players and tactics were used to create 9/11.
found a livestream of infowars nightly news... http://www.livestream.com/INFOWARRIORS Now hopefully Madsen will still be on
Never mind the "Dancing Israelis", did you ever hear of the ones who were caught red-handed on the day of 9/11/2001 near the George Washington Bridge with a ton or so of explosives in a white van? They were held for several months, then released to Israel, no charges filed. I wouldn't say he's running it, but he's certainly a key player. People that he serves are the real puppeteers who play the world like a game for their enjoyment.
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#109. To: scrapper2, GreyLmist, 4, 0 comments, all (#108)
*I take no personal offense at O responses. I will continue to post articles/ my opinions on 4um when I can, because christine gives us all a wonderful gift ( rare these days when political correctness reigns supreme)- an non judgmental platform @ 4um to exercise our free speech rights.*
#110. To: Aquila, noone222, *No Planers* (#98)
During the editing and pre-marketing process of Marshall’s book, he expressed some degree of paranoia because the nonfiction work accused the George W. Bush administration of being in cahoots with the Saudi intelligence community in training the hijackers who died in the planes used in the attacks.
a coordinated training operation that prepared the hijackers to fly heavy commercial airliners. We have dozens of FBI documents to prove that this flight training was conducted California, Florida and Arizona in the 18 months leading up to the attack.”
1. Pinal Airpark - Wikipedia
Uploaded at YouTube on Feb 12, 2012 by ResistNWOrder
C2C w/host John Wells
#111. To: scrapper2, GreyLmist, Lod, christine, noone222, aquila, 1 comment, all (#108)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#112. To: All (#105)
From this and a few other articles I’ve found on the net I’ve compiled a few questions....
a) dog killed in the bedroom,
b) children killed while sleeping on the couch.
#113. To: Aquila (#112)
Aquila is a constellation in the northern sky. Its name is Latin for 'eagle' and it represents the bird who carried Zeus's/Jupiter's thunderbolts in Greco-Roman mythology.
#114. To: GreyLmist (#97)
This was designed to give these traitors a protected-zone to supposedly bring in troops (UN-NATO or otherwise), to do what they cannot do without this CRIMINALLY-ENFORCED-TREASON. This way they can have full control of all the ports and all the major cities near what used to be the borders of the United States.
#115. To: Aquila (#112)
#116. To: scrapper2, christine (#108)
I posted it on Sunday night - 02/10 ( I mis-remembered the date). It was the same Wired original source as you posted today.
christine gives us all a wonderful gift ( rare these days when political correctness reigns supreme)- an non judgmental platform @ 4um to exercise our free speech rights.*
#117. To: Aquila (#112)
#118. To: BTP Holdings (#114)
This was designed to give these traitors a protected-zone to supposedly bring in troops (UN-NATO or otherwise), to do what they cannot do without this CRIMINALLY-ENFORCED-TREASON. This way they can have full control of all the ports and all the major cities near what used to be the borders of the United States.
#119. To: GreyLmist (#118)
similar to how they manuever to remove our rights from us only quicker and more ethically by deeming them Secessionists.
#120. To: BTP Holdings (#119)
#121. To: wudidiz (#0)
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DS Holter February 11, 2013 at 12:56 am #
Marshall: "I don't know, I'm looking out my window right now...(laughter)...I don't know...Like they said in that movie- go out on your feet or go out on your knees- take your choice but we're all goin' out at some point...
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=144044;title=APFN
#122. To: Aquila (#121)
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Here is the link to the page with the .mp3
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi? disc=149495;article=144044;title=APFN MORE INFO: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bamboozle.htm
Audio: Philip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/08/12
http://www.apfn.net/CC301/Sep09'12_10;56PM_001.mp3In the first half, veteran airline captain Philip Marshall revealed the connections between the 9/11 hijackers and the Saudi Arabian intelligence community. Lead investigator of the Congressional Joint Inquiry, Senator Bob Graham, uncovered such a relationship and has filed a lawsuit against Saudi Arabia for their role in the attack, Marshall said. The hijackers were in contact with Saudi Arabian aviation experts, he continued, adding that "none of the official evidence mentions any kind of role by bin Laden and al-Qaeda." Marshall dismissed theories that the Pentagon was struck by a missile, though he acknowledged that the incredible speed at which the plane was traveling (480 knots) would have made it sound and even appear like a missile attack. Photographic evidence shows Boeing engine turbines inside the Pentagon, as well as wing fairings and other metallic wreckage with American Airline's paint job, he noted. There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.
#123. To: GreyLmist (#120)
There's no reason for Patriots to secede. It's our nation and our Constitution, not the plunder of the Treasonous. They have seceded from our Constitutional Republic and system of government.
#124. To: wudidiz (#0)
February 15-17, 2013 -- Sacramento, CA -- Philip Marshall: A black ops hit made to appear as a suicide Philip Marshall, the retired United Airlines pilot, 9/11 analysis author, and one-time Iran-contra era associate of CIA/DEA informant Barry Seal, did not shoot his two teen-age children and himself. That is the conclusion of everyone who knew Marshall after he moved to the Sierra Nevadas community of Murphys ten years ago after he sold his home in Santa Barbara.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/4/3300455/PhilipMarshallhitmadetoappearassuicide.pdf
http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/
#125. To: Aquila (#124)
#126. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#122)
There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.
#127. To: Aquila (#124)
#128. To: Lod (#126)
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There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.
#129. To: wudidiz (#0)
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http://www.justin.tv/alexjonesinfowars
http://tvpc.com/ChannelList.php
#130. To: GreyLmist (#128)
#131. To: Lod (#126)
Epic fail.
Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort.
Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day. 
#132. To: Lod, Aquila (#130)
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#133. To: Aquila (#131)
#134. To: GreyLmist (#132)
#135. To: GreyLmist (#132)
it shut off
#136. To: Lod (#133)
The Big Bamboozle,
#137. To: Lod (#126)
There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.
#138. To: RickyJ (#137)
http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/
you can see he's not a moron. Far from it. He is very well educated. And, I'd assume that holding Captain ratings in 727,737,747,757 and 767 means he had quite a bit of psychological evaluation. 
#139. To: Aquila (#138)
... what then?
#140. To: Lod (#139)
He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide!
#141. To: Aquila (#140)
How did the US get to this point? Let's face it, most of the population deserves a police state and the loss of the Republic.
#142. To: Aquila (#138)
If he's Not a "moron" and his kids really died, what then?
#143. To: RickyJ, Lod (#137)
That alone makes me think this guy is either a moron, or is a disinfo agent himself. If he is a disinfo agent, it is possible he and his kids weren't really killed and that he is living undercover somewhere else now.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#144. To: FormerLurker (#143)
#145. To: RickyJ (#142)
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By Stephen Courts
#146. To: All (#145)
#147. To: Aquila (#145)
I just heard someone on a radio program bring this up and the host didn't let the caller speak more than 2 sentences about Saudi involvement before he was cut off completely and then the host went on for about 4 minutes saying talk of Saudi involvement was rubbish and the only thing anyone should concentrate on is the Dancing Israelis.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#148. To: Aquila, RickyJ (#145)
Bush 41 has been running a shadow government for over 30 years. Many of the same players and tactics were used to create 9/11.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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