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Title: Former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
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Post Date: 2013-02-05 21:53:12 by wudidiz
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Former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself

Xeni Jardin at 6:41 pm Mon, Feb 4

Slaying victims Alex and Macaila Marshall with their father, Phillip Marshall.

Phillip (alternately, "Philip") Marshall, 54, a career airline pilot who claimed to have once served as a contract pilot for the CIA and DEA during the Iran-Contra affair, shot and killed his two teenage children, and the family dog, then killed himself.

The apparent murder-suicide was discovered at the family home in an upscale gated golfing community in Murphys, California.

According to local news reports, teen friends of Alex Marshall, 17 (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), and Macaila Marshall (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), 14, noticed the siblings had not been active via text or social media updates since Thursday and went by the house on Saturday to check on them.

The last posts made by either child to Instagram and Facebook were dated Thursday night.

The friends told police that when they arrived, they found Phillip Marshall, 54, "lying in a pool of blood inside the home," his 9mm Glock nearby.

Deputies believe the children were shot while sleeping on a couch.

The family dog was found shot to death in a nearby bedroom.

Marshall's estranged wife Sean, the children's mother, was out of the country at the time.

Phillip Marshall has been identified as a former pilot for Eastern and United airlines. He self-published a number of books, including at least two about his 9/11 conspiracy theories: "The Big Bamboozle" (February 9, 2012) and "False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" (July 29, 2008).

A previous novel published in 2003, "Lakefront Airport, New Orleans," detailed his claimed experience as a pilot for the US during Iran/Contra.

In his books and his social media bios (including multiple Facebook accounts, his Twitter account and a Tumblr), he claims to have served as a contract pilot for the CIA's Special Activities Division during the Iran-Contra affair, flying shipments to and from Nicaragua.

He appeared on "outsider truth" shows like Coast to Coast to promote the theories in his books that 9/11 was an "inside job," the result of a plot between the US government and the Saudis.

From his author bio on Createspace.com, Amazon.com's self-publishing service:

Philip Marshall, a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community.

Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians.

I am unable to confirm the veracity of the claims in his self-authored bio at this time.

A Facebook page for "The Big Bamboozle" showed posts as recent as January 31 with titles like, "WHAT IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HIDING?," "THE ARAB WORLD KNOWS THE RAID WAS A HOAX," and posts about the Bin Laden assassination having been faked.

"PICTURES PAINT A THOUSAND WORDS," read one such Facebook post from Marshall about photographs of the assassinated Al Qaeda leader. "Since bin Laden died in 2001, these would be "alleged" photos of bin Laden. Give us a break."

He once also pitched those theories to a television news journalist with whom this blogger is acquainted.

A young friend of the two slain teens with whom this blogger is personally acquainted described them as "sweet, funny, lively, good kids."

A tweet from Macaila on January 25:

Would it be wrong if I threw my cat with his claws retracted at my dads face right now?... #pissoff— Macaila Marshall (@MacailaMarshall) January 25, 2013

Photos from the siblings' Instagram feeds suggest that they were outgoing, well-liked by friends, and loved one another very much. In one, Macaila is in the hospital after a "golf cart accident," with her father sitting in the background.

In the last self-portrait she posted on January 28, her brother blows a hair dryer at her while she goofs in the mirror.

"I pretty much just wanted to say how great of a big brother you are," Macaila writes to her brother in another Instagram caption, "I love you so much!"

A family photo Instagrammed by Alex shows the boy at a much younger age.

In it, he is helping his father mow the lawn with a toy lawnmower.

Macaila Marshall, from her Facebook profile.


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#121. To: wudidiz (#0) (Edited)

Second hour of Phillip Marshall on Coast 2 Coast 9/9/12

Poor audio quality, missing first hour. At least the date is established. Nothing really new here, just posting for the record.

I have locked facebook out of my computer (127.0.0.1) so I can't research the pages Captain Marshall talks about, maybe someone here is a member and can see what is there.

Also, now that the date of the 2nd interview is known, maybe someone can find the first hour. Just trying to clarify if Phillip Marshall said what was posted in #112 above:

DS Holter February 11, 2013 at 12:56 am #

He was on C2C a few weeks before this hit on he and his family. He said then that if anything happened to him, it was not a suicide. He made it very clear

@42:25 Wells: "Say, how much exposure are you and I pulling right now by talking about this?
Marshall: "I don't know, I'm looking out my window right now...(laughter)...I don't know...Like they said in that movie- go out on your feet or go out on your knees- take your choice but we're all goin' out at some point...

Well Phillip- you were a great American. You tried. Some of us will try not to let you down

Here is the link to the page with the .mp3

Audio: Phillip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/09/12
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=144044;title=APFN

Save it to disk- we must not let this mans words go down the rathole

Edit: the correct date of the interview is 9/8/12. It's available at the Coast 2 Coast website behind a pay wall. Can't buy it now.

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-14   10:32:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Aquila (#121) (Edited)

Here is the link to the page with the .mp3

Audio: Phillip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/09/12
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi? disc=149495;article=144044;title=APFN

Save it to disk- we must not let this mans words go down the rathole

Edit: the correct date of the interview is 9/8/12. It's available at the Coast 2 Coast website behind a pay wall. Can't buy it now.

Thanks for your efforts. Followed the disc.yourwebapps.com link above that you posted to the bottom of the article there:

MORE INFO: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bamboozle.htm

Then from that link to the top of the page at apfn.org for the mp3 audio file re: the 2nd hour of Phillip Marshall on Coast 2 Coast 9/8/12:

Audio: Philip Marshall (pilot) on Coast to Coast on 09/08/12
http://www.apfn.net/CC301/Sep09'12_10;56PM_001.mp3

Synopsis at coasttocoastam.com on the first hour of that Philip Marshall interview (with access there to both segments for paid memberships):

9-11 Attack & Terrorism Threats - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

Date: 09-08-12

Host: John B. Wells

Guests: Robert Gleason, Philip Marshall

In the first half, veteran airline captain Philip Marshall revealed the connections between the 9/11 hijackers and the Saudi Arabian intelligence community. Lead investigator of the Congressional Joint Inquiry, Senator Bob Graham, uncovered such a relationship and has filed a lawsuit against Saudi Arabia for their role in the attack, Marshall said. The hijackers were in contact with Saudi Arabian aviation experts, he continued, adding that "none of the official evidence mentions any kind of role by bin Laden and al-Qaeda." Marshall dismissed theories that the Pentagon was struck by a missile, though he acknowledged that the incredible speed at which the plane was traveling (480 knots) would have made it sound and even appear like a missile attack. Photographic evidence shows Boeing engine turbines inside the Pentagon, as well as wing fairings and other metallic wreckage with American Airline's paint job, he noted. There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.

He spoke about the extraordinary skill required to pilot a Boeing 757 at high speeds at low altitude, and to navigate the aircraft to a single building from 270 miles away (distance when hijackers took over the plane). Marshall said he attempted the Washington DC attack himself in a simulator and, despite his 20 years of experience flying Boeing airliners and 15,000 hours of flight time, it took him four tries to hit the Pentagon. "To suggest that this was the first time that guy had ever flown a 757 is absolutely impossible," he stressed. According to Marshall, the 9/11 hijackers were tailed by the FBI from the moment they landed in Los Angeles on January 12, 2000. They learned to fly on small aircraft and simulators then, after George W. Bush became president, started disappearing into the Arizona desert for days at a time, he disclosed. Marshall believes the hijackers were trained at a CIA-operated airport, Pinal Air Park, by a Saudi group from an aviation charter that operated Boeing aircraft. He connected the people in charge of Pinal to Wall Street and ultimately to Dick Cheney, and suggested that President Bush knew enough not to scramble fighters to intercept the hijackers.

Edited for spacing.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-02-14   16:31:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#122)

There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.

Epic fail.

Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort.

Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day.

Lod  posted on  2013-02-18   15:33:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Lod (#126)

There is no doubt that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, Marshall stated.

Epic fail.

Even Rummy said it was a missile; though more likely a drone of some sort.

Just more of the Dov-zio magic worked on that horrific day.

That alone makes me think this guy is either a moron, or is a disinfo agent himself. If he is a disinfo agent, it is possible he and his kids weren't really killed and that he is living undercover somewhere else now.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-02-19   15:22:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: RickyJ (#137)

If you actually read the excerpts from his blog here
http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/
you can see he's not a moron. Far from it. He is very well educated. And, I'd assume that holding Captain ratings in 727,737,747,757 and 767 means he had quite a bit of psychological evaluation.

I'm pretty sure the funeral for his kids wasn't faked.

Hundreds turned out at The Bret Harte Union High School in Angels Camp, CA to remember Alex and Macaila Marshall, both former San Marcos High School students. Alex and Macaila were killed in the double murder, suicide involving former Hope Ranch pilot and author, Phillip Marshall. Alex and Macaila’s aunt delivered the eulogy while their mom, Sean Marshall, closed the ceremony with emotional remarks. “Being in Turkey and getting the news, it was almost unbearable,” she said. “When I heard of this devastation, there are no words ever to explain the emotions, the hurt, the regrets. I couldn’t hear God at that moment. I couldn’t hear his answers why, why would you do this? Why them? Why me?” Sean concluded, “Hug everyone, love everyone, be kind.”

http://www.santabarbaraview.com/alex-and-macaila-marshal-remembered442552/comment-page-1/

If he's Not a "moron" and his kids really died, what then?

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-19   15:41:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Aquila (#138)

... what then?

obamacide

He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide!

Lod  posted on  2013-02-19   15:50:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Lod (#139)

He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide!

If Phillip Marshall had documents that threatened the present government of the US--

does the NDAA actually authorize his assassination?

How did the US get to this point? Let's face it, most of the population deserves a police state and the loss of the Republic.

Not all of us, but certainly a majority. I can't begin to describe all the times I've begged and pleaded with my "friends" to pay attention and wake up- the last big example being the Health Insurance Ripoff and Enslavement Act-- but even when told that the Feds were going to Require these numbnuts to actually buy insurance and send in proof to the IRS with their 1040's they yawned and went back to sleep.

I can't wait to hear the protests next year, but I've become partially sadistic these days.

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-19   16:05:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Aquila (#140)

Not all of us, but certainly a majority. I can't begin to describe all the times I've begged and pleaded with my "friends" to pay attention and wake up- the last big example being the Health Insurance Ripoff and Enslavement Act-- but even when told that the Feds were going to Require these numbnuts to actually buy insurance and send in proof to the IRS with their 1040's they yawned and went back to sleep.

well said. i've had the same experience, but, hell. we got gay marriage and free healthcare and i'm just a conspiracy theory kook.

christine  posted on  2013-02-19   23:53:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: christine, all (#149)

Thanks Christine!

All:
The Wayne Madsen segment on Alex Jones last night was excellent and lasted for a full half hour. Well worth the time. He was also on an internet radio program available at link below- haven't listened yet, but if you didn't get to see Madsen last night here's an alternative:

Wayne Madsen: 9/11 author Philip Marshall “suicided” by black ops team_on the Kevin Barrett Show- broadcast February 19, 2013. It is now archived here —
http://noliesradio.org/archives/57581

Here's some juicy stuff. Should have searched Reddit long ago.

The "Phil had no ammo" quote has been identified and sourced. (420 lol)

octagon420 15 days ago

I am/was phil marshall's publicist. I helped him publish his books and was about to republish his expiriences regarding iran/contra.... I really am shocked about this whole thing... I last spoke with him 4 days ago and spent 7 days in the house the crime was comitted in about 2 weeks ago.. I am shocked, I don't believe it... Something is SERIOUSLY FISHY. Until someone can prove to me that this was suicide I refuse to believe that the man whom loved his children so dearly could have done this. He was a dear friend, his children were fantastic, I am at a loss for words....

octagon420 15 days ago

I just want to say, information is sparse right now... I promise I will update you guys as things become clearer, but I personally have a hard time believing this.... We had high level contacts in the government, he was reaching out to people overseas and this just DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.. FUUUCK i am devastated....

(octagon420 was asked for proof of his publicist claim--)
octagon420 15 days ago

I will post a random string on his twitter after this post @thebigbamboozle 868gdmzs ... It is sad :(

(---->-scroll up this thread to see this tweet in post #53- pretty convincing)

octagon420 15 days ago

He was convinced he had uncovered the TRUE people behind 9/11 . In his book he identified the training facilities and tactical plan used, I can only imagine at this point he may have gotten things right... We had been in contact with members of the 911 commission recently and foreign nationals.. Last time I spoke with him was 4 days ago and he was in good spirits looking forward to further book publishing and adventures... FFFFUUUUUUUU

MikelexLasciatemi cantare sono un italiano 5 points 14 days ago*

Deborah Jeane Palfrey the DC madam and 9/11 informant went on Alex Jones show saying she wasn't going to commit suicide, a year later she was found hanging in her garage.

octagon420 14 days ago

Yes, I was aware he owned the glock. Interestingly he claimed a few weeks ago, when I saw him last, that he didn't own ammunition for it. Don't know if that was a lie or what.. I never saw the gun, however, I had seen the manual in his car and hence the conversation came up. As far as I know he owned a single glock pistol.

octagon420 14 days ago

Logical conclusion. However, I was shocked to find out and saw the post on /r/conspiracy so I figured I would add some perspective. As per his wishes, I will be open-sourcing one of his books. This was an ongoing project and we were planning on publishing much of his work free to the world anyways, so there goes you financial motivator....

octagon420 14 days ago

Yes, the human mind is a complex thing, I am not going to pretend I could understand it. One way or another, this was unexpected...

octagon420 15 days ago

Yes, I suspect I will be haunted by this for the rest of my life... We will never truly know what happened... All I know is that in a TRILLION years, I would have never expected something like this from him... Just. Doesn't. Compute.

octagon420 15 days ago

All I can say is WTF!! I can't imagine this happened, he LIVED for his kids, he would have never harmed them...

More at link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/17x0kj/former_pilot_and_911_conspiracy_theorist_shoots/

Phil and Barry Seal's Cocaine Lear Jet

One more thing- I can't remember where I saw/ heard the quote but it makes tons of sense:

Phillip Marshall lived for football, we are told. He would commit suicide and kill his kids a few days before the super bowl? Just another Hmmmm...

Meanwhile- What can a single person do? Whether you think Phillip Marshall was guilty or not, the killings deserve a full investigation. Please consider contacting the California Attorney General here http://oag.ca.gov/ and politely ask for a state investigation. It's the least we can do for Phillip and the truth.

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-20   14:07:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Aquila (#150)

No one, and I mean no gov agency is ever, ever going to investigate a cia-fedgov hit.

It is up to private citizens to try and bring the facts to light.

Thank you for all that you've posted here - nice digging, lod

Lod  posted on  2013-02-20   15:29:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Lod (#152)

Thanks!

I've got to stop and do some F'n work!- this is a fascinating case and the net makes it so easy to chase leads. What did we ever do before?? Every time I read something or do a new search new things turn up. Wow. This is a conspiracy theorists conspiracy theory! And just looking at those kids faces...well...what-for once I'm speechless- If Phillip Marshall killed those kids I want to know. But if we have hit squads running around killing families that's a whole 'nother thing. Argentina here we come!

Anyway...heh...I just found this- nothing big but more ...uh...ammo? (sorry)

Saudi involvement in 9/11
Clipped from:John Pistole on Air Safety and Security
Aug 8, 2012

Capt. Phil Marshall asks why there is no mention of the Suadi Arabian Government involvement in the 9/11 plot. (2min)

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/3666021

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-20   16:06:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Aquila, 4 (#155)

Personally, I don't believe that the Saudis are smart enough to do anything other than write huge checks and offer up their moronic young men as stooges for our FF-ops.

If you haven't read it already, check out House of Bush, House of Saud for more revelations that go back decades and decades.

Lod  posted on  2013-02-20   16:14:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Lod, Aquila (#157)

I'd like to hear the interview that Madsen did with Jones or anyone else on this topic. Have I ever mentioned that I hate the fucking feds.

I'm reading the Big Bamboozle because I think the planes were flown by remote control - and the A-RABS were thinking they were passengers when they were only patsies. (I don't have to agree with Mr. Marshall to appreciate his work. And, he may be correct).

I didn't think a plane actually crashed at Shanksville, however Marshall stated that he lost a pilot friend in that crash on 9-11. Who knows ...

When I was in the AIR FARCE we were training the Saudis to fly T-38s.

noone222  posted on  2013-02-20   16:30:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: noone222, Aquila, 4 (#159) (Edited)

My short take -

Zero arabs were on any flights.

93 was shot down in flight (the wreckage path was 8 miles for ....sake!)

Zero airliner hit the pentagon - that's just insane.

The WTC complex was brought down by controlled demolition and whatever aircraft flew into I and II were remote controlled craft via the Pentagon plunderer (2.3T) gone missing, Dov Zakheim mastermind/executioner deluxe.

Lod  posted on  2013-02-20   17:12:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Lod (#160)

Zero airliner hit the pentagon - that's just insane.

Something hit the pentagon. What do you think it was?

whatever aircraft flew into I and II were remote controlled craft

Very well possible since the remote tech to control Boeing aircraft has been around since 1984

On the morning of December 1, 1984, the test aircraft took off from Edwards Air Force Base, California, made a left-hand departure and climbed to an altitude of 2,300 feet (700 m). The aircraft was remotely flown by NASA research pilot Fitzhugh Fulton from the NASA Dryden Remotely Controlled Vehicle Facility. All fuel tanks were filled with a total of 76,000 pounds (34,000 kg) of AMK and all engines ran from start-up to impact (the flight time was 9 minutes) on the modified Jet-A. It then began a descent-to-landing along the roughly 3.8-degree glideslope to a specially prepared runway on the east side of Rogers Dry Lake, with the landing gear remaining retracted.

Passing the decision height of 150 feet (46 m) above ground level (AGL), the aircraft turned slightly to the right of the desired path. The aircraft entered into a situation known as a Dutch Roll. Slightly above that decision point at which the pilot was to execute a "go-around", there appeared to be enough altitude to maneuver back to the center-line of the runway. The aircraft was below the glideslope and below the desired airspeed. Data acquisition systems had been activated, and the aircraft was committed to impact. It contacted the ground, left wing low, at full throttle, with the aircraft nose pointing to the left of the center-line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Impact_Demonstration

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-21   4:16:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Aquila, 4 (#166)

Something hit the pentagon. What do you think it was?

It was a hit all right.

A direct hit on the auditors who were trying to determine where 2.3T went missing.

Rummy said that a missile struck the pentagon: it would have to have had bunker-buster capability to penetrate as it did, or maybe the recent remodeling/reinforcing was when the demo-charges were set.

Whatever it was, it was no commercial airplane.

Lod  posted on  2013-02-21   7:39:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Lod (#169)

Rummy said that a missile struck the pentagon

fired from an aircraft, do you think?

I don't believe anything I've been told about 911. But just because Marshall does, I'm just saying his entire theory shouldn't be automatically discarded. He is after all a highly regarded captain of 5 classes of jets- and has an intimate knowledge of that entire industry and all that goes along- for example knowing about the following:

There are two different worlds in aviation — the general single-engine airplane world with a service ceiling of 10,000 feet and a top speed of around 200 miles per hour, and the commercial swept-wing jetliner world at 40,000 feet and Mach numbers for speed calculations. Little within that first world prepares the pilot for the second, high-altitude world.

So began my search for Middle Eastern operators of Boeing airliners. Because the hijackers were mostly Saudi Arabian, the firm of Dallah Avco, a Saudi operator of multiple private Boeing airliners, soon stood out as a focal point. To my amazement, I immediately discovered that Congressional investigators had already linked Dallah Avco with the actual hijackers. Omar Bayoumi, a Dallah employee and operative within the Saudi Ministry of Aviation, had provided housing and basic support for three hijackers: Nawaf al-Hazmi, Khalid al-Mihdhar and the pilot/hijacker of American 77, Hani Hanjour.

FBI evidence of the cell would confirm that the hijacking team of American 77 had formed and operated separately with direct financial support from top-level members of the Saudi government, bitter enemies of al Qaeda. The picture was beginning to clear.

http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/

There's so much dis information along with the hidden critical information it might be that the truth is a stew of it all. Or maybe none of it is real and we're all circling a distant planet on a broken spaceship and the ship's computer has decided to put us all into a virtual reality to live until old age mercifully kills us rather than kill us outright. (apologies to Phillip K. Dick)

Aquila  posted on  2013-02-21   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Aquila, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#179)

There's so much dis information along with the hidden critical information it might be that the truth is a stew of it all.

The kosher official narratives are managed by big media, which includes big alternative media names: Webster Tarpley and on and on. That's a big reason why alternative media is comparable to a carrot-on-a-stick where even if PsyOp/BlackOp hoaxes are exposed, that's usually as far as it goes (if not largely ignored). Psywar doesn't just hide actual crimes that did happen but also attempts to "validate" crimes or deaths, etc., that might not have really happened at all for purposes of tyrannical legislation or wars or whatever. So, at this point, I'm not convinced that Philip Marshall and his children are dead or Hank Asher either or even that Barry Seal was assassinated. They could have gone into a Witness Protection program for all I know.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-02-22   5:39:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: GreyLmist (#192)

...at this point, I'm not convinced that Philip Marshall and his children are dead or Hank Asher either or even that Barry Seal was assassinated.

Good because there's absolutely no reason to be convinced of it :)

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