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Title: Former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
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Xeni Jardin at 6:41 pm Mon, Feb 4 Slaying victims Alex and Macaila Marshall with their father, Phillip Marshall. The apparent murder-suicide was discovered at the family home in an upscale gated golfing community in Murphys, California. According to local news reports, teen friends of Alex Marshall, 17 (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), and Macaila Marshall (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), 14, noticed the siblings had not been active via text or social media updates since Thursday and went by the house on Saturday to check on them. The last posts made by either child to Instagram and Facebook were dated Thursday night. The friends told police that when they arrived, they found Phillip Marshall, 54, "lying in a pool of blood inside the home," his 9mm Glock nearby. Deputies believe the children were shot while sleeping on a couch. The family dog was found shot to death in a nearby bedroom. Marshall's estranged wife Sean, the children's mother, was out of the country at the time. Phillip Marshall has been identified as a former pilot for Eastern and United airlines. He self-published a number of books, including at least two about his 9/11 conspiracy theories: "The Big Bamboozle" (February 9, 2012) and "False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World" (July 29, 2008). A previous novel published in 2003, "Lakefront Airport, New Orleans," detailed his claimed experience as a pilot for the US during Iran/Contra. In his books and his social media bios (including multiple Facebook accounts, his Twitter account and a Tumblr), he claims to have served as a contract pilot for the CIA's Special Activities Division during the Iran-Contra affair, flying shipments to and from Nicaragua. He appeared on "outsider truth" shows like Coast to Coast to promote the theories in his books that 9/11 was an "inside job," the result of a plot between the US government and the Saudis. From his author bio on Createspace.com, Amazon.com's self-publishing service: Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians. I am unable to confirm the veracity of the claims in his self-authored bio at this time. A Facebook page for "The Big Bamboozle" showed posts as recent as January 31 with titles like, "WHAT IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HIDING?," "THE ARAB WORLD KNOWS THE RAID WAS A HOAX," and posts about the Bin Laden assassination having been faked. "PICTURES PAINT A THOUSAND WORDS," read one such Facebook post from Marshall about photographs of the assassinated Al Qaeda leader. "Since bin Laden died in 2001, these would be "alleged" photos of bin Laden. Give us a break." He once also pitched those theories to a television news journalist with whom this blogger is acquainted. A young friend of the two slain teens with whom this blogger is personally acquainted described them as "sweet, funny, lively, good kids." A tweet from Macaila on January 25: Would it be wrong if I threw my cat with his claws retracted at my dads face right now?... #pissoff— Macaila Marshall (@MacailaMarshall) January 25, 2013 Photos from the siblings' Instagram feeds suggest that they were outgoing, well-liked by friends, and loved one another very much. In one, Macaila is in the hospital after a "golf cart accident," with her father sitting in the background. In the last self-portrait she posted on January 28, her brother blows a hair dryer at her while she goofs in the mirror. "I pretty much just wanted to say how great of a big brother you are," Macaila writes to her brother in another Instagram caption, "I love you so much!" A family photo Instagrammed by Alex shows the boy at a much younger age. In it, he is helping his father mow the lawn with a toy lawnmower. Macaila Marshall, from her Facebook profile. Poster Comment: L.A. Times - Two teens killed by father in apparent murder-suicide, officials sayFormer pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself
Phillip (alternately, "Philip") Marshall, 54, a career airline pilot who claimed to have once served as a contract pilot for the CIA and DEA during the Iran-Contra affair, shot and killed his two teenage children, and the family dog, then killed himself. 
Philip Marshall, a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. 
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#139. To: Aquila (#138)
obamacide He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide! “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken If Phillip Marshall had documents that threatened the present government of the US-- does the NDAA actually authorize his assassination? How did the US get to this point? Let's face it, most of the population deserves a police state and the loss of the Republic. Not all of us, but certainly a majority. I can't begin to describe all the times I've begged and pleaded with my "friends" to pay attention and wake up- the last big example being the Health Insurance Ripoff and Enslavement Act-- but even when told that the Feds were going to Require these numbnuts to actually buy insurance and send in proof to the IRS with their 1040's they yawned and went back to sleep. I can't wait to hear the protests next year, but I've become partially sadistic these days.
No argument there. If you haven't, please read The Law - Fredric Bastait to get a really clear grip on .govs, the governed, and what happens when there's more takers than makers. (We're there) Crystal clear break-down on the subject. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken If he thinks a 757 hit the pentagon then he is a moron or disinfo agent, those are the only possibilities, because a 757 most certainly did not hit the pentagon. I am not saying he and his kids weren't killed, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been putting out disinfo. It could have been to lend credence to his "opinions," to make people think he was on the right track. The elite will do anything to cover their crimes up, including killing their paid disinfo agents. God is always good!
I think it was more likely the Mena related stuff that got him wacked. Although he MIGHT have been talking to the wrong, or maybe the right people concerning 9/11 or other matters, who knows. If anyone could do a deep investigation of what he was up to in the past year before his death, it might point towards the involved parties. It might have nothing to do with anything we know about. Agree. Mena-mention could still have the 'toons whack ya. Seriously. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I'm just curious- have you read his blog? Any chapter? Anything more than what's here? I just heard someone on a radio program bring this up and the host didn't let the caller speak more than 2 sentences about Saudi involvement before he was cut off completely and then the host went on for about 4 minutes saying talk of Saudi involvement was rubbish and the only thing anyone should concentrate on is the Dancing Israelis. And this host likes to think he's open minded...He couldn't evaluate other info- he didn't want to even hear anything that didn't fit what he already "knows" happened. It was pathetic. Hmmm...This get's more interesting literally Every Single Day Edit to add: Many reviews at Amazon are interesting http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboozle-War-Terror/dp/1468094580 for example: Absolutely A Must Read June 9, 2012 Having read Susan Lindauer's Extreme Prejudice and Sibel Edmonds Classified Woman, I read this astounding, concise and succinct book not once but twice. I knew about the shenanigans of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Pearle, Libby and the rest of the nut bags and their ideological call for an invasion of Iraq in the late 1990's. If you read this short well documented book, you will come away appalled at the conspiracy of Junior, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and company to recreate another "Pearl Harbor" to further their dream of a new police state. I will remind readers again about the interview in October 1967 in Playboy magazine in which District Attorney Jim Garrison said: "In my own experiences, Fascism is coming to America in the form of National Security". How prescient. Thirty four years later, that is what we have become. Forget the main (lame) stream media, do your own homework. I think Mr. Marshall's call for a trial of KSM is absolutely critical and one has to wonder why the "Intelligence Community" and the extreme right wing fear this trial. We can't try in open court a defeated, tortured man whom the government claims masterminded this horrific crime? I did read Compromised by Terry Read, and Iran-Contra is important to this story. Bush 41 has been running a shadow government for over 30 years. Many of the same players and tactics were used to create 9/11.
found a livestream of infowars nightly news... http://www.livestream.com/INFOWARRIORS Now hopefully Madsen will still be on
Never mind the "Dancing Israelis", did you ever hear of the ones who were caught red-handed on the day of 9/11/2001 near the George Washington Bridge with a ton or so of explosives in a white van? They were held for several months, then released to Israel, no charges filed. I wouldn't say he's running it, but he's certainly a key player. People that he serves are the real puppeteers who play the world like a game for their enjoyment. well said. i've had the same experience, but, hell. we got gay marriage and free healthcare and i'm just a conspiracy theory kook.
Thanks Christine! All: Wayne Madsen: 9/11 author Philip Marshall “suicided” by black ops team_on the Kevin Barrett Show- broadcast February 19, 2013. It is now archived here — Here's some juicy stuff. Should have searched Reddit long ago. The "Phil had no ammo" quote has been identified and sourced. (420 lol) I am/was phil marshall's publicist. I helped him publish his books and was about to republish his expiriences regarding iran/contra.... I really am shocked about this whole thing... I last spoke with him 4 days ago and spent 7 days in the house the crime was comitted in about 2 weeks ago.. I am shocked, I don't believe it... Something is SERIOUSLY FISHY. Until someone can prove to me that this was suicide I refuse to believe that the man whom loved his children so dearly could have done this. He was a dear friend, his children were fantastic, I am at a loss for words.... octagon420 15 days ago I just want to say, information is sparse right now... I promise I will update you guys as things become clearer, but I personally have a hard time believing this.... We had high level contacts in the government, he was reaching out to people overseas and this just DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.. FUUUCK i am devastated.... (octagon420 was asked for proof of his publicist claim--) I will post a random string on his twitter after this post @thebigbamboozle 868gdmzs ... It is sad :( (---->-scroll up this thread to see this tweet in post #53- pretty convincing) octagon420 15 days ago He was convinced he had uncovered the TRUE people behind 9/11 . In his book he identified the training facilities and tactical plan used, I can only imagine at this point he may have gotten things right... We had been in contact with members of the 911 commission recently and foreign nationals.. Last time I spoke with him was 4 days ago and he was in good spirits looking forward to further book publishing and adventures... FFFFUUUUUUUU MikelexLasciatemi cantare sono un italiano 5 points 14 days ago* Deborah Jeane Palfrey the DC madam and 9/11 informant went on Alex Jones show saying she wasn't going to commit suicide, a year later she was found hanging in her garage. octagon420 14 days ago Yes, I was aware he owned the glock. Interestingly he claimed a few weeks ago, when I saw him last, that he didn't own ammunition for it. Don't know if that was a lie or what.. I never saw the gun, however, I had seen the manual in his car and hence the conversation came up. As far as I know he owned a single glock pistol. octagon420 14 days ago Logical conclusion. However, I was shocked to find out and saw the post on /r/conspiracy so I figured I would add some perspective. As per his wishes, I will be open-sourcing one of his books. This was an ongoing project and we were planning on publishing much of his work free to the world anyways, so there goes you financial motivator.... octagon420 14 days ago Yes, the human mind is a complex thing, I am not going to pretend I could understand it. One way or another, this was unexpected... octagon420 15 days ago Yes, I suspect I will be haunted by this for the rest of my life... We will never truly know what happened... All I know is that in a TRILLION years, I would have never expected something like this from him... Just. Doesn't. Compute. octagon420 15 days ago All I can say is WTF!! I can't imagine this happened, he LIVED for his kids, he would have never harmed them... More at link: Phil and Barry Seal's Cocaine Lear Jet One more thing- I can't remember where I saw/ heard the quote but it makes tons of sense: Phillip Marshall lived for football, we are told. He would commit suicide and kill his kids a few days before the super bowl? Just another Hmmmm... Meanwhile- What can a single person do? Whether you think Phillip Marshall was guilty or not, the killings deserve a full investigation. Please consider contacting the California Attorney General here http://oag.ca.gov/ and politely ask for a state investigation. It's the least we can do for Phillip and the truth.
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No one, and I mean no gov agency is ever, ever going to investigate a cia-fedgov hit. It is up to private citizens to try and bring the facts to light. Thank you for all that you've posted here - nice digging, lod “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken It is up to private citizens to try and bring the facts to light. Thank you for all that you've posted here - nice digging, lod Cele Castillo tried. He's out you know. He was released some time last year I believe. Good men ..... we need more of them. __ Their are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
I'm reading "The Big Bamboozle" as of today. My local librarian got me a copy. I listened to 2 separate interviews that Mr. Marshall did on Coast 2 Coast ... he was pragmatic, intelligent, and on a mission. They killed him. The Bush cabal have had the Saudis acting as contract agents since the OKC Bombing. We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
Thanks! I've got to stop and do some F'n work!- this is a fascinating case and the net makes it so easy to chase leads. What did we ever do before?? Every time I read something or do a new search new things turn up. Wow. This is a conspiracy theorists conspiracy theory! And just looking at those kids faces...well...what-for once I'm speechless- If Phillip Marshall killed those kids I want to know. But if we have hit squads running around killing families that's a whole 'nother thing. Argentina here we come! Anyway...heh...I just found this- nothing big but more ...uh...ammo? (sorry) Saudi involvement in 9/11 Capt. Phil Marshall asks why there is no mention of the Suadi Arabian Government involvement in the 9/11 plot. (2min)
can't wait to hear what you think!
Personally, I don't believe that the Saudis are smart enough to do anything other than write huge checks and offer up their moronic young men as stooges for our FF-ops. If you haven't read it already, check out House of Bush, House of Saud for more revelations that go back decades and decades. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I'm waiting for "Bush, the CIA and Mafia" ... it should be here soon. I'll check out "The House of Bush, House of Saud" ... We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
I'd like to hear the interview that Madsen did with Jones or anyone else on this topic. Have I ever mentioned that I hate the fucking feds. I'm reading the Big Bamboozle because I think the planes were flown by remote control - and the A-RABS were thinking they were passengers when they were only patsies. (I don't have to agree with Mr. Marshall to appreciate his work. And, he may be correct). I didn't think a plane actually crashed at Shanksville, however Marshall stated that he lost a pilot friend in that crash on 9-11. Who knows ... When I was in the AIR FARCE we were training the Saudis to fly T-38s. We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
My short take - Zero arabs were on any flights. 93 was shot down in flight (the wreckage path was 8 miles for ....sake!) Zero airliner hit the pentagon - that's just insane. The WTC complex was brought down by controlled demolition and whatever aircraft flew into I and II were remote controlled craft via the Pentagon plunderer (2.3T) gone missing, Dov Zakheim mastermind/executioner deluxe. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken That puts a differnt spin on it for me... As a "no planer" , God knows if all is thus offical public truth as stated... well .. MY speculation would be that after SandyHoax...perhaps Marshall might of been getting ready to talk about the media manipulation matrix... That would be a big deal.. big enough to merit this roman style villiany.. Thank you for share that noone222 __ Their are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Zero arabs were on any flights. 93 was shot down in flight (the wreckage path was 8 miles for ....sake!) Zero airliner hit the pentagon - that's just insane. The WTC complex was brought down by controlled demolition and whatever aircraft flew into I and II were remote controlled craft via the Pentagon plunderer (2.3T) gone missing, Dov Zakheim mastermind/executioner deluxe. Our thoughts are alike. I, like you, don't think the planes could disintegrate the towers - even if some arabs could manage to pilot them accurately. Marshall thinks that these Saudis entered the U.S. in January, 2000 and were immediately assisted by Saudi expatriates and others such as the Saudi Ambassador to Washington, FBI high level informants, as well as rogue elements within Bush' Administration. He doesn't hesitate to point the finger at Darth Cheney as a critical player. I heard Marshall say in an interview on Coast 2 Coast that he thinks Saudi Trainers had plenty of time to have trained the arabs to do the job they (allegedly) carried out on 9-11. We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
Wayne Madsen: 9/11 author Philip Marshall “suicided” by If you have a media downloader type extension you can download it too.
The whole video is fascinating but skip to 11:50 through 18:05 first for relevance then start over from the beginning. Is it an April Fools joke? Something for a movie? A practice session? I've never seen anything like that 6 minutes before...Even back in the days when satellite dishes were new and lots of things went up to the sky that shouldn't have. Or maybe I'm just looking at it wrong. Edit: looking at the 6 minute "Saudi Arabia" segment again, sometimes there is very clearly no satellite delay when the anchor is speaking with the bloke "in the field". Surely if they were going to fake this they would insert a ~1 or 2 second delay?
Something hit the pentagon. What do you think it was? Very well possible since the remote tech to control Boeing aircraft has been around since 1984 Passing the decision height of 150 feet (46 m) above ground level (AGL), the aircraft turned slightly to the right of the desired path. The aircraft entered into a situation known as a Dutch Roll. Slightly above that decision point at which the pilot was to execute a "go-around", there appeared to be enough altitude to maneuver back to the center-line of the runway. The aircraft was below the glideslope and below the desired airspeed. Data acquisition systems had been activated, and the aircraft was committed to impact. It contacted the ground, left wing low, at full throttle, with the aircraft nose pointing to the left of the center-line.
Something hit the pentagon. What do you think it was? Not necessarily. It could have been explosives in the building timed to detonate with the close overshoot of the plane which made many with not a good view of the "impact" site think that the plane hit the building. God is always good!
Thanks for that link ... interesting interview. Something that seems to go unnoticed is just how large the CIA actually is. I don't think it can be destroyed because it's a secret society with murder as its mission and international bankers for bosses.
We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
It was a hit all right. A direct hit on the auditors who were trying to determine where 2.3T went missing. Rummy said that a missile struck the pentagon: it would have to have had bunker-buster capability to penetrate as it did, or maybe the recent remodeling/reinforcing was when the demo-charges were set. Whatever it was, it was no commercial airplane. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Phillip Marshall must have been a smart man to be a pilot. They don't let dummies in there, but geniuses don't usually gravitate to flying planes either. Not usually. I wonder if Howard Hughes would have thought a plane hit the pentagon. I don't. I think the chance of them showing a video of a plane hitting it if it actually did is approaching 100%. Bingo! Instead, the feebs were on site in seconds collecting every tape that they could find. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Post #124 by Aquila: "rainbowsally", posting at santabarbaraview.com has dug up some stuff at waynemadsenreport.com that sits behind a pay wall- here's an excerpt: Pic at Post #150 by Aquila: Phil and Barry Seal's Cocaine Lear Jet Wayne Madsen: 9/11 author Philip Marshall “suicided” by black ops team_on the Kevin Barrett Show - audio and transcript; more on Barry Seal, etc. MADSEN: Baton Rogue, 19…February 19th in 1986. BARRETT: Right. And Barry Seal had been a CIA drug pilot. This was part of the Cocaine-for-the-Contras thing that Olly North and probably George H.W. Bush, [were] smuggling cocaine with the CIA to support the Contra insurgency in Nicaragua. And then Barry Seal got gunned down in Baton Rogue after he had [just turned] state’s evidence against, guess who, his own lawyer, Richard Ben-Veniste, who later served on the 9/11 Commission. Very interesting tie-ins here. [sic] BARRETT [at 47:21]: ...Now I wonder if, at some point, there shouldn’t be a reform in the justice system when a dead person is blamed for a crime, they…a good lawyer should defend that person, and they should have to convict him in court. That would make it a lot harder for these organized crime elements to stage these murder-suicides. MADSEN: Absolutely. Absolutely. Edited for spacing and Wikipedia link correction. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Now this is just brilliant! Simply because you're dead, should not mean that you don't get your day in court. This is the most amazing thought/idea that I've seen in a long while. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Behind 9/11 : Whistleblowers Susan Lindhauer & Philip Marshall 02.11.2012 4) 2:16:40-2:17:09 - speaks highly of Obama and Holder I get the impression at the 4th listed timestamp coordinates above that Marshall was a Democrat. Top Obama czar: Infiltrate all ‘conspiracy theorists’ - You Are The Movement In the 30-page paper – obtained and reviewed by WND – Sunstein argues the best government response to “conspiracy theories” is “cognitive infiltration of extremist groups.” Vermeule Prefix Ver - Truth Edited to correct last link and for spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Now this is just brilliant! Simply because you're dead, should not mean that you don't get your day in court. This is the most amazing thought/idea that I've seen in a long while. I agree. Way to go, Kevin Barrett! ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Now that Marshall's address has been published in the above LEO press releases here is google earth again showing his exact house from 2 elevations-(There is no street view behind "gated communities"- and the nearest street view isn't close) Click the pic or the link below for full size Click the pic or the link below for full size One thing is as clear as a bell: You don't need to get past a "gate" at this "gated community" to get to his house... Those houses aren't that far apart but they aren't exactly close together. Would you hear a gunshot (so far it's probably safe to assume the shots were fired late THU or sometime FRI) in the house next door? Across the street? Edit: 4 gunshots from a 9mm glock. Can you put a silencer on a regular glock?
From a comment at santabarbaraview.com: "Look at the Sandy Hook situation, this playing right into the gun owners and amendments." Sandy Hook -- Ogden Utah connection to Robbie Parker and family. Ogden Utah connection to Iran Contra + the '80s S&L/Savings and Loan scandal: Why Does George W. Bush Fly in Drug Smuggler Barry Seal's Airplane? - FTW/From the Wilderness: As Published in the October 1999 Issue ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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#140. To: Lod (#139)
He now decides who lives and who dies, worldwide!
#141. To: Aquila (#140)
How did the US get to this point? Let's face it, most of the population deserves a police state and the loss of the Republic.
#142. To: Aquila (#138)
If he's Not a "moron" and his kids really died, what then?
#143. To: RickyJ, Lod (#137)
That alone makes me think this guy is either a moron, or is a disinfo agent himself. If he is a disinfo agent, it is possible he and his kids weren't really killed and that he is living undercover somewhere else now.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#144. To: FormerLurker (#143)
#145. To: RickyJ (#142)
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#146. To: All (#145)
#147. To: Aquila (#145)
I just heard someone on a radio program bring this up and the host didn't let the caller speak more than 2 sentences about Saudi involvement before he was cut off completely and then the host went on for about 4 minutes saying talk of Saudi involvement was rubbish and the only thing anyone should concentrate on is the Dancing Israelis.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#148. To: Aquila, RickyJ (#145)
Bush 41 has been running a shadow government for over 30 years. Many of the same players and tactics were used to create 9/11.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#149. To: Aquila (#140)
Not all of us, but certainly a majority. I can't begin to describe all the times I've begged and pleaded with my "friends" to pay attention and wake up- the last big example being the Health Insurance Ripoff and Enslavement Act-- but even when told that the Feds were going to Require these numbnuts to actually buy insurance and send in proof to the IRS with their 1040's they yawned and went back to sleep.
#150. To: christine, all (#149)
The Wayne Madsen segment on Alex Jones last night was excellent and lasted for a full half hour. Well worth the time. He was also on an internet radio program available at link below- haven't listened yet, but if you didn't get to see Madsen last night here's an alternative:
http://noliesradio.org/archives/57581 octagon420 15 days ago
octagon420 15 days ago
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/17x0kj/former_pilot_and_911_conspiracy_theorist_shoots/ 
#151. To: Aquila (#150)
Meanwhile- What can a single person do? Whether you think Phillip Marshall was guilty or not, the killings deserve a full investigation. Please consider contacting the California Attorney General here oag.ca.gov/ and politely ask for a state investigation. It's the least we can do for Phillip and the truth.
#152. To: Aquila (#150)
#153. To: Lod (#152)
No one, and I mean no gov agency is ever, ever going to investigate a cia-fedgov hit.
#154. To: Aquila (#145)
#155. To: Lod (#152)
Clipped from:John Pistole on Air Safety and Security
Aug 8, 2012
#156. To: noone222 (#154)
I'm reading "The Big Bamboozle" as of today.
#157. To: Aquila, 4 (#155)
#158. To: Lod (#157)
If you haven't read it already, check out House of Bush, House of Saud for more revelations that go back decades and decades.
#159. To: Lod, Aquila (#157)
#160. To: noone222, Aquila, 4 (#159)
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#161. To: noone222 (#159)
I didn't think a plane actually crashed at Shanksville, however Marshall stated that he lost a pilot friend in that crash on 9-11. Who knows ...
#162. To: Lod (#160)
My short take -
#163. To: Aquila (#156)
www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/3666021
#164. To: noone222 (#159)
I'd like to hear the interview that Madsen did with Jones or anyone else on this topic.
black ops team_on the Kevin Barrett Show-
broadcast February 19, 2013. It is now archived here
http://noliesradio.org/archives/57581
I'm using "downloadhelper" firefox extension. Stable and works very well.
#165. To: titorite (#161)
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after SandyHoax...perhaps Marshall might of been getting ready to talk about the media manipulation matrix...
#166. To: Lod (#160)
Zero airliner hit the pentagon - that's just insane.
whatever aircraft flew into I and II were remote controlled craft
On the morning of December 1, 1984, the test aircraft took off from Edwards Air Force Base, California, made a left-hand departure and climbed to an altitude of 2,300 feet (700 m). The aircraft was remotely flown by NASA research pilot Fitzhugh Fulton from the NASA Dryden Remotely Controlled Vehicle Facility. All fuel tanks were filled with a total of 76,000 pounds (34,000 kg) of AMK and all engines ran from start-up to impact (the flight time was 9 minutes) on the modified Jet-A. It then began a descent-to-landing along the roughly 3.8-degree glideslope to a specially prepared runway on the east side of Rogers Dry Lake, with the landing gear remaining retracted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Impact_Demonstration
#167. To: Aquila (#166)
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#168. To: Aquila (#164)
#169. To: Aquila, 4 (#166)
Something hit the pentagon. What do you think it was?
#170. To: Aquila, Lod, all (#169)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#171. To: Aquila, Lod, GreyLmist, noone222, RickyJ (#131)
Not sure if Phillip Marshall's entire theory should be thrown out just because he thinks a plane hit the pentagon. Maybe it did.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#172. To: wudidiz (#171)
I think the chance of them showing a video of a plane hitting it if it actually did is approaching 100%.
#173. To: wudidiz, Aqila, All (#0)
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Article excerpt: Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians.
February 15-17, 2013 -- Sacramento, CA -- Philip Marshall: A black ops hit made to appear as a suicide Philip Marshall, the retired United Airlines pilot, 9/11 analysis author, and one-time Iran-contra era associate of CIA/DEA informant Barry Seal
BARRETT [at 9:14]: ...he was obviously mixed up with some pretty high level organized criminals in his days as an associate of Barry Seal [My note: aka Adler Berriman Seal aka Ellis Mackenzie]. Maybe the listeners may not remember that Barry Seal was gunned down in, I think it was Baton Rouge, or New Orleans, one of the two…
#174. To: GreyLmist (#173)
Now I wonder if, at some point, there shouldn’t be a reform in the justice system when a dead person is blamed for a crime, they…a good lawyer should defend that person, and they should have to convict him in court. That would make it a lot harder for these organized crime elements to stage these murder-suicides.
#175. To: All (#110)
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2. Coast to Coast Video of Interview with Philip Marshall at Post #39
YouTube on Feb 12, 2012 by ResistNWOrder
C2C w/host John Wells In a 2008 Harvard law paper, “Conspiracy Theories,” Sunstein and co-author Adrian Vermeule, a Harvard law professor, ask, “What can government do about conspiracy theories?”
meule - French: grindstone
#176. To: Lod (#174)
[Kevin Barrett:] Now I wonder if, at some point, there shouldn’t be a reform in the justice system when a dead person is blamed for a crime, they…a good lawyer should defend that person, and they should have to convict him in court. That would make it a lot harder for these organized crime elements to stage these murder-suicides.
#177. To: wudidiz (#0)
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http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5728/marshallhouse5000ft.jpg 
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1535/marshallhouse4000ft.jpg
I've fired a friends 9mm and it seems that 4 shots without a silencer would have been fairly loud, especially at night
#178. To: Aquila, All (#173)
Post #124 by Aquila: "rainbowsally", posting at santabarbaraview.com
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