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Title: Know Your Rights... DHS CheckPoint
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://youtu.be/7AY79knXJK8
Published: Feb 28, 2013
Author: a guy with balls
Post Date: 2013-02-28 18:46:31 by wakeup
Keywords: None
Views: 397
Comments: 18

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#3. To: wakeup (#0)

I wonder what he thinks Border Patrol's job should be?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-03-01   0:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GreyLmist (#3)

They should be working the border, not fifty miles in.

wakeup  posted on  2013-03-01   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wakeup, *The Border* (#4)

They should be working the border, not fifty miles in.

I think the distance has to do with the so-called "Constitution Free Zone", mentioned in this video version's Comments section (currently Pg. 5; postings by nvryder and D Nuqui):

§ 287 (a) (3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 66 Stat. 233, 8 U.S.C. § 1357(a)(3), - allows for warrentless searches within 100 miles of the border

According to case law - (§ 287 (a) (3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 66 Stat. 233, 8 U.S.C. § 1357(a)(3)) warrentless searches can be conducted within 100 miles of any border....

§ 287 (a) (3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 66 Stat. 233, 8 U. S. C. § 1357 (a) (3), which simply provides for warrantless searches of automobiles and other conveyances "within a reasonable distance from any external boundary of the United

States," as authorized by regulations to be promulgated by the Attorney General. The Attorney General's regulation, 8 CFR § 287.1, defines "reasonable distance" as "within 100 air miles from any external boundary of the United States."...

8 CFR 287.1 - Definitions.

Reasonable distance. The term reasonable distance, as used in section 287(a) (3) of the Act, means within 100 air miles from any external boundary of the United States or any shorter distance which may be fixed by the chief patrol agent for CBP, or the special agent in charge for ICE, or, so far as the power to board and search aircraft is concerned any distance fixed pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-03-14   6:26:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz (#5)

warrantless searches "allowed" because youre 100 miles from a border? Thats a complete bluff & lie. You dont have to even answer their "citizen" question or consent to search & the actual law, courts & Uscis themselves all admit this.

Artisan  posted on  2013-03-14   7:57:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#6)

warrantless searches "allowed" because youre 100 miles from a border? Thats a complete bluff & lie. You dont have to even answer their "citizen" question or consent to search & the actual law, courts & Uscis themselves all admit this.

I don't agree with the 100 mile zone but, not being in favor of globalized Open Borders, neither do I think that Border Patrol's job should be to just wave at people as they drive by like a Welcoming Committee. Thanks for the Terry Bressi pointer. Will study his info when I can give it more attention.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-03-14   9:23:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GreyLmist (#9)

not being in favor of globalized Open Borders,

What is so bad about free and open borders?

Free and open borders established this nation albeit at the expense of the indigenous people already here.

Still Why should travel be restricted or hindered to and from mexico or canada?

How is man served by government limiting his freedom of movement?

A criminal is not limited by government so no crime is gonna be stopped....

Or when you say "Globalized" do you only mean the other nations abroad excluding our two sister nations?

titorite  posted on  2013-09-27   0:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: titorite (#14) (Edited)

not being in favor of globalized Open Borders,

What is so bad about free and open borders?

Free and open borders established this nation albeit at the expense of the indigenous people already here.

Still Why should travel be restricted or hindered to and from mexico or canada?

How is man served by government limiting his freedom of movement?

A criminal is not limited by government so no crime is gonna be stopped....

Or when you say "Globalized" do you only mean the other nations abroad excluding our two sister nations?

Believe it or not, titorite, the indigenous people weren't much in favor of open borders either, as they attacked the first settlement that was established here until those immigrants returned to Britain, wiped out the next landing of 15 men, and then there was the disappearance of the Virginia Dare Party, named for the first baby of European descent born here in their settlement.

Similarly, the indigenous people down Mexico-way weren't much in favor of open borders for Spanish colonists either, especially the Apache but also others like the Aztecs, etc.

Israel has a "no borders"/fluctuating borders policy. Are you in favor of that?

Edited for spelling + paragraph 1.

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