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Title: Sen. Paul holds floor for hours in filibuster of CIA nominee, over drone concerns
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... a-nominee-over-drone-concerns/
Published: Mar 6, 2013
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2013-03-06 15:44:36 by Refinersfire
Keywords: None
Views: 645
Comments: 43

Sen. Rand Paul launched into an old-fashioned filibuster on the Senate floor Wednesday as he tried to hold up the nomination of John Brennan for CIA director over concerns about the president’s authority to kill Americans with drones.

Paul, R-Ky., is one of several lawmakers – on both sides of the aisle – who has raised concerns about the legal justification for launching drone strikes against Americans overseas. But Paul took to the floor after receiving a statement from Attorney General Eric Holder that creaked open the door to the possibility of using a drone to kill an American inside the United States.

“To allow one man to accuse you in secret -- you never get notified you've been accused,” Paul said on the floor. “Your notification is the buzz of propellers on the drone as it flies overhead in the seconds before you're killed. Is that what we really want from our government?”

Paul said he’d be raising the same complaints under a Republican president.

“No one politician should be allowed to judge the guilt, to charge an individual, to judge the guilt of an individual and to execute an individual. It goes against everything that we fundamentally believe in our country,” he said.

Paul, who started speaking shortly before noon, said he will filibuster the nomination “until I can no longer speak.”

This kind of filibuster is rare – typically, senators “filibuster” by refusing to grant the majority the 60 votes needed to proceed to a final vote on certain bills.

Paul, though, said he wanted to raise the “alarm” about the drone issue.

He spoke after receiving letters from Holder on drone authority.

In one letter, Holder said the U.S. has never carried out a drone strike against one of its citizens on American soil, and called a situation where such a strike may occur "entirely hypothetical" and "unlikely to occur."

However, Holder did not entirely rule out that such a scenario may occur in the future, and indicated that such a strike would be legal under the Constitution.

“It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the president to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder said.

Holder said "catastrophic" attacks such as the Sept. 11 attacks or the attack on Pearl Harbor are examples of circumstances where the president could conceivably feel such an action is necessary.

Testifying on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, Holder agreed that it would be unconstitutional to use a drone on American soil against a U.S. citizen and suspected terrorist who did not pose an imminent threat.

Brennan has been a staunch supporter of the administration’s drone program. But, after members of the Senate Intelligence Committee extracted key documents on the program from the administration, the panel on Tuesday voted 12-3 to approve the nomination.

Senate leaders were hoping to hold a floor vote on the nomination as early as Wednesday.

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#1. To: All (#0)

So far Sen Paul, Sen Cruz, Sen Lee and Sen Moran have taken to the floor.

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-06   15:45:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Sen. Ron Wyden and Sen. Marco Rubio take to the floor...

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-06   16:22:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Sen Chambliss on the floor now

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-06   16:39:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Sen Reid is now trying to cancel the filibuster by asking for a debate and vote on the CIA choice.

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-06   16:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Sen Paul has stopped Sen Reid's desire to end the filibuster and is still speaking with Sen Toomey taking the floor also..

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-06   16:56:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Refinersfire (#5)

I fail to see the political drama in a show. I used too. I feel where you're coming from. But I can't get worked up about it no more.

drones will still kill US citizens on US soil....

Because apparently their law enforcement thugs can't kill us fast enough ....

But I have faith in no congress person or fed of any kind. Not the pauls, not the kuseniches, not franktons or any of ems.

I wish you well in this filibuster exposition.

titorite  posted on  2013-03-06   17:10:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: titorite (#6)

I agree. It's already been approved by the shadow government, otherwise obama wouldn't be pushing it. The political theatre is a way for the pubs to go to their supporters and say "Well, we tried."

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-03-06   19:28:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Obnoxicated (#16)

It'll be interesting to see how Israel pulls the plug on Rand Paul and shuts him down. Let me guess: a nation-wrecking senator invokes *The Holoco$t* and declares that drones are necessary to prevent another *Holoco$t* OY VEY!!......

X-15  posted on  2013-03-06   19:49:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: X-15 (#19) (Edited)

It'll be interesting to see how Israel pulls the plug on Rand Paul and shuts him down.

this "war on terror" operation was decades in planning

rand is only 50 years old, and banged his head on the wailing wall

we dont know if this charade will be successful or not... but all it will take to get the thing rammed through is another false flag, blamed on americans in america who "should have been droned in america"

they're probably screening internet forums now for likely patsies

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edit: i'm entitled to be as paranoid about israel as they are about everyone else

lead.and.lag  posted on  2013-03-06   19:57:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#21. To: lead.and.lag (#20)

but all it will take to get the thing rammed through is another false flag, blamed on americans in america who "should have been droned in america"

they're probably screening internet forums now for likely patsies

Maybe we should paint blood on our doorways so the Agent of Death passes by?? You know, a Passover for Gentiles similar to the one depicted in the movie The Ten Commandments??

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