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Title: John McCain and Lindsey Graham Declare War on Rand Paul
Source: http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/07/john-mccain-and-lindsey-gr
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/07/j ... n-and-lindsey-graham-declare-w
Published: Mar 7, 2013
Author: Brian Doherty
Post Date: 2013-03-07 16:21:57 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, libertarians
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Comments: 17

The anti-Rand Pauls, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, took to the Senate floor this morning to defend killing American citizens at presidential discretion. Graham is doing so live on C-SPAN2 right now, saying that everything you do is a danger to America no matter who or where you are, as long as the U.S. government has decided you have "joined al-Queda," whatever the hell that means.

Earlier John McCain said, as Business Insider reported:

"Calm down, Senator," McCain said, in an admonition to Paul. "The U.S. government cannot randomly target U.S. citizens."

McCain argued that Paul's warning that the Obama could target would U.S. citizens in "cafes" on American soil, and his related "Jane Fonda" analogy, bring the debate into the "realm of the ridiculous."

"If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids," he said. "I don't think what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people."

The Republican Party is at war, folks, and let's hope Rand Paul and his troops win.

UPDATE: Sen. McCain was apparently quoting a crummy Wall Street Journal op-ed in the portion quoted above about "libertarian kids."

Brian Doherty is a senior editor at Reason magazine and author of Ron Paul’s Revolution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired (Broadside Books). Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#1. To: All, *Shooters*, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2013-03-07   16:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

The anti-Rand Pauls, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, took to the Senate floor this morning to defend killing American citizens at presidential discretion. Graham is doing so live on C-SPAN2 right now, saying that everything you do is a danger to America no matter who or where you are, as long as the U.S. government has decided you have "joined al-Queda," whatever the hell that means.

Earlier John McCain said, as Business Insider reported:

"Calm down, Senator," McCain said, in an admonition to Paul. "The U.S. government cannot randomly target U.S. citizens."

McCain argued that Paul's warning that the Obama could target would U.S. citizens in "cafes" on American soil, and his related "Jane Fonda" analogy, bring the debate into the "realm of the ridiculous."

"If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids," he said. "I don't think what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people."

The Republican Party is at war, folks, and let's hope Rand Paul and his troops win.

UPDATE: Sen. McCain was apparently quoting a crummy Wall Street Journal op-ed in the portion quoted above about "libertarian kids."

No surprise here. The traitor, McCain, has opened his mouth one too many times.

As far as targeting Americans on their home soil, it is not beyond my comprehension to believe it could be done, and with little risk to the PTB. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-03-07   16:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

We are our government. Right. I declare John McCain an Alqida terrorist.

You now have permission to make him disappear. Their will be no review board at this time.

__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!

titorite  posted on  2013-03-07   16:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: freepatriot32, BTP Holdings, 4 (#1)

COG, Continuity of Government, is all that matters to the PTB.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-07   16:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

It's a cinch that asshole John McCain won't stand behind Rand Paul. He knows who butters his toast.

And it would be unwise to stand behind John McCain because he might ignite his afterburners and then you'd be toast.

Know guns, know safety, know liberty. No guns, no safety, no liberty.

randge  posted on  2013-03-07   16:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

He knows who butters his toast.

Better his toast than his buns, but, who knows about that...

I'm sick of them all.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-07   16:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#4)

COG, Continuity of Government, is all that matters to the PTB.

Afraid you are right about this. Unfortunately, there may not be a government much longer. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-03-07   16:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings, titorite, Lod, randge, (#2)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2013-03-07   17:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

Unfortunately, there may not be a government much longer.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-03-07   17:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

From your mouth to God's ear.

Ada  posted on  2013-03-07   17:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#4)

COG, Continuity of Government, is all that matters to the PTB.

What is really sickening is how these tyrants have twisted the term "continuity" in support of their ideal of government, an ever-changing entity poised to meet the needs of The People, just not people in general or something...

Doesn't "continuity", outside of electric stuff, mean sameness, not prone to sudden change, ...

And to prove my point I lifted these from Roget's:

chain, cohesion, connection, constancy, continuance, continuousness, continuum, dovetailing, durability, duration, endurance, extension, flow, interrelationship, linking, perpetuity, persistence, prolongation, protraction, sequence, stability, stamina, succession, survival, train, uniting, unity, vitality, whole

Small time radicals can be entertaining, even educational. Global corporate state radicals are no fun at all.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2013-03-07   18:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#6)

We need term limits now more than ever. McCain and Graham are perfect examples.

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Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-03-07   19:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite (#3)

We are our government. Right. I declare John McCain an Alqida terrorist.

You now have permission to make him disappear. Their will be no review board at this time.

The funny thing about what you posted, is that I in a wee bit different manner, said that to McStain's Office just this AM ;)

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-07   22:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Refinersfire (#13)

The funny thing about what you posted, is that I in a wee bit different manner, said that to McStain's Office just this AM ;)

If you have a digital cam corder you might keep it near your door over the course of the next week in case the petrified dino turd sends an SS agent to pester you over it.

Good on you for taking the message to his office.

__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!

titorite  posted on  2013-03-07   23:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: titorite (#14)

SS agent to pester you over it.

I go one step beyond that when I call the White House, I invite the SS to call me, if they are coming for a visit. That way I can have some home made Tea and a nice treat made for them. One week I even said I was making Brownies, but they must have forgot me :(

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2013-03-08   17:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Refinersfire (#15)

Well, when you serve the sob's don't forget and take the ones you meant for them and eat them yourself, ahaha.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-03-08   18:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

John McCain and Lindsey Graham

Both of them are members of CFR. Both are traitors to the U.S. ;)

I said this about McCain long before he ran for President against Obama. And, both of them are also members of CFR.

BTW, it must have been nice for CFR to own both horses in a two-horse race. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-03-09   14:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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