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Title: 88 private emails? Really?
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Published: Mar 15, 2013
Author: me
Post Date: 2013-03-15 18:15:18 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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I'm gone for a while and come back to 88 e-mails? WTF? Isn't that a bit ridiculous?
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#28. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
I got 96 emails one time. "Have Brain, Will Travel
Paul Craig Roberts
Clearly a fag.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
I think a bet along those lines would be pretty safe.
Paul Craig Roberts
Not to come off sounding like a dick, but you need to pay more attention to the stuff your quoting when you go to quote. That stuff about list making. I did not write that.... Now you can scroll up to read wake ups words for yourself... but you always had that option. You did not need me to inform you of that nor give you permission. Just scroll up. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
cant seem to find wakeup's post about making lists please post the url to wakeup's post about making lists
please post the url to wakeup's post about making lists Oh shit, egg on my face you can't! My bad, My apoligies, I am sorry about that. You can not read wake up words because they are from the 88+ emails ..... Anyways, the shit I put in italics was a quote from another. I have a mother. She was wise enough to teach me never to commit anything to paper or print that I would not have the whole world read. So yeah. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
I would not make a list. You posted it, out of context and in bad faith. I propose a requirement of reaching the age of 12 before be granted a screen name. Further discourse with you is pointless (to dangerous). “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Whoa ,slow down there boss, now your being offensive, I did not post nothing in bad faith and I was trying to establish some context not take something out of context. Maybe you did not notice all those fucking emails in your box but alot of us did.... some of us were even participating in the conversation and reminding the others that some wanted to opt out..... some had wanted to take our conversation to the open boards.... FA made this thread here (not unlike other threads about the PMs already)... I chimed in with my small bit. Lead.and.Lag jumped on any opportunity to ride my ass and now here you are saying this stuff?!?!?! Next time consider asking me to clarify my words if your are uncertain about my meaning rather than tossing around a few glib and trite comments about the safety of talking to people online! ! ! __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Fuck you! Anyone with access knows that an apology would not suffice for your breach. No explanation necessary. Grow up before you get someone killed. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
I wanna be forgiving. I wanna express compassion .. understanding... but i have had exchanges with you here ..... and all I can feel is animosity. All I can think is how cowardly. Words you gutless fuck. It is just words you are getting worked up over. Words about freedom. Words about reigning in the out of control negative aspects of this tyrannical government..A government that is already killing people , innocent people , innocent US citizens... and you would admonish me for speaking against it . Do me a favor, turn on alex jones and go fuck yourself too bub. Fucking bozo out. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Anyways, the shit I put in italics was a quote from another. When discussing a poster, titorite, the polite thing to do is to ping them. Putting something in the quote section of a public post and attributing it to private e-mail is proof of nothing contextual or actual authorship either. To anyone not privy to an alleged copy, it amounts to hearsay and so there is always the question then that it could be an alteration or entirely fabricated. Anything attributed to someone without their permission being given publicly prior further increases those possibilities. The only things demonstrable from that are issues like breach of trust, impaired judgement -- that sort of thing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
What I originally quoted in italics was hear say. Done. I've no problem referring to it as such. That aside- It is generally accepted here that if you put something in italics and up front that it is a "quote" . And lead.and.lag has been on my ass like a douche for awhile....and I did ping wake up originally. Along with many others.... And I've no concern for the rest. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Ok many many others but apparently Wake ups name was not in that multi blast ping...I missed that. But for crying out loud, Wakeup did you miss this thread up till this point? Sorry about missing you in the initial ping. GreyLMist was correct that I did not ping you .... :S All I can say on my behalf is ;that was alot freaking names to deal with. The fault is mine. And the words I said, I hope were not said in vein but only motivate more out of us all. __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Done. I've no problem referring to it as such. That aside- It is generally accepted here that if you put something in italics and up front that it is a "quote" . I think the accepted protocol is that something italicized in a quote is verfiable in an accessible article, at a site, or in an open forum post -- like that. You might have thought you pinged him in this thread but you didn't. Nor would he even get a ping if spelled like that with a space in his screename. It's one word, all lowercase letters. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
So I see.... Edit to add this:... I was just going over this again when I re read post 6.... I look at post 6 and think to myself WTF!?!?! I do just that and what in the heck happened? __ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
Jeez guys, I didn't mean to cause animosity and acrimony among members.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT! It's Saint Patricks Day, everybody mellow out and drink some Guinness or Jameson's/Bushmill's depending on whether you're Roman Catholic or Protestant!!!
#29. To: Turtle (#28)
This is the video that removed any doubt whether ? may have seen one up close and personal.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)
#31. To: Turtle (#30)
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#32. To: lead.and.lag (#27)
where did the quote come from?
#33. To: titorite (#32)
Just scroll up.
#34. To: lead.and.lag (#33)
cant seem to find wakeup's post about making lists
#35. To: titorite, christine (#26)
I did not write that.
#36. To: Hmmmmm (#35)
(Edited)
You posted it, out of context and in bad faith. I propose a requirement of reaching the age of 12 before be granted a screen name. Further discourse with you is pointless (to dangerous).
#37. To: titorite (#36)
Next time consider asking me to clarify my words if your are uncertain about my meaning rather than tossing around a few glib and trite comments about the safety of talking to people online! ! !
#38. To: Hmmmmm (#37)
(Edited)
Fuck you! Anyone with access knows that an apology would not suffice for your breach. No explanation necessary. Grow up before you get someone killed.
#39. To: titorite, wakeup (#34)
You can not read wake up words because they are from the 88+ emails .....
#40. To: GreyLmist (#39)
(Edited)
When discussing a poster, titorite, the polite thing to do is to ping them. Putting something in the quote section of a public post and attributing it to private e-mail is proof of nothing contextual or actual authorship either. To anyone not privy to an alleged copy, it amounts to hearsay and so there is always the question then that it could be an alteration or entirely fabricated. Anything attributed to someone without their permission being given publicly prior further increases those possibilities. The only things demonstrable from that are issues like breach of trust, impaired judgement -- that sort of thing.
#41. To: wakeup, GeryLmist (#40)
(Edited)
I did ping wake up originally. Along with many others....
#42. To: titorite, wakeup (#40)
What I originally quoted in italics was hear say.
I did ping wake up originally. Along with many others....
#43. To: GreyLmist (#42)
(Edited)
#44. To: All (#0)
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
#45. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, All (#44)
-Alex Kurtagic
#46. To: titorite (#38)
Making more friends here I see, eh tit? Do me a favor, turn on alex jones and go fuck yourself too bub. Fucking bozo out.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#47. To: FormerLurker (#46)
He there shill, I aint seen you in a month of Sundays. For a moment there I thought you had been retired.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#48. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#44)
It is not your fault at all in any way. Rest assured that you are completely cool . Jeez guys, I didn't mean to cause animosity and acrimony among members.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#49. To: titorite (#47)
It's been quite obvious to me for some time now what your REAL purpose is here on this forum. You put on a good show, I can say that. So what alphabet soup group is it that pays your salary? Could it be something so simple as DHS?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: FormerLurker (#49) (Edited)
So what alphabet soup group is it that pays your salary? Could it be something so simple as DHS? ... Sigh...... What is YOUR purpose here FormerLurker? Everyone here knows you hate me already. Please stop acting like a juvenile repeatedly spamming your hatred of me all over these forums. For the love of christ, we fucking get it! YOU DISLIKE ME! EVERY FUCKING PERSON HERE KNOWS THOSE! Their is no point ,zero, nada, no reason at all for you to continue to spam your vitriol at me. None. Hmmmmms advice better suites you , grow up. Stop engaging me for the sole purpose of harassing and insulting like some two bit iThug. It's been quite obvious to me for some time now what your REAL purpose is here on this forum. You put on a good show, I can say that.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#51. To: titorite (#43) (Edited)
I look at post 6 and think to myself WTF!?!?! I do just that and what in the heck happened? My understanding is that proper use of PMs means not pinging people into private group-discussions who prefer not to be so contacted and that moving a private discussion of a topic to a public forum does not mean the session(s) become public property nor that all aspects are suitable for transference. Proper protocol as I see it [from a private to public setting] means to speak for yourself only without speaking of others as involved at all or attributing any words/opinions to someone that they have not posted publicly themselves. Respect the privacy of others and don't presume it's ok to act like a ventriloquist for context or corroboration. Edited an apostrophe error and to insert the bracketed section. Edit to add this:... I was just going over this again when I re read post 6....
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#52. To: GreyLmist (#51)
I think PMs were intended to be kind of like email, one on one mostly. The potential to abuse it with "spam" can happen, but it is easy to fix, just block people you don't want to hear from. I block no one, especially since this forum doesn't have many posters. And the more I think about it, the less I think you and titorite are disinfo agents. Disinfo agents would probably not mess with a forum this small, what would be the point? That wasn't always the case though, at one time there was a known disinfo agent on this site who came over from LP, BeAChooser, this forum was more active and had more posters at the time.
God is always good!
#53. To: RickyJ, GreyLmist (#52)
I think BAC was clearly disinfo, but at least he didn't try to advocate illegal acts in an apparent effort to entrap people, then post their words sent in confidence over a public forum. I agree with you, I don't think GL is a shill. Wrong on certain things maybe, but I don't think she's here with an agenda to disinform.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: GreyLmist, wakeup (#51)
Grey.... I am sorry to of offended you... I clearly see I have. wakeup, have I offended you in this action? My understanding is that proper use of PMs means not pinging people into private group-discussions who prefer not to be so contacted and that moving a private discussion of a topic to a public forum does not mean the session(s) become public property nor that all aspects are suitable for transference. Proper protocol as I see it [from a private to public setting] means to speak for yourself only without speaking of others as involved at all or attributing any words/opinions to someone that they have not posted publicly themselves. Respect the privacy of others and don't presume it's ok to act like a ventriloquist for context or corroboration.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#55. To: RickyJ (#52)
Thank you. I think your human too. And the more I think about it, the less I think you and titorite are disinfo agents.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#56. To: titorite (#54)
I don't know, but I find many of your posts quite offensive. You don't threaten to kill the president, that is not something a rational person does online. You could get this forum in trouble posting stuff like that, please think about that if you are not here to cause trouble. wakeup, have I offended you in this action?
God is always good!
#57. To: RickyJ (#56) (Edited)
I wont deny purposefully being offensive from time to time. ....but I haven't ever threatened to kill the president. I wish you would not write such things. Sometimes I do try to skate the edge. But no , I have never made any kind of direct threat ...or indirect for that matter..... But I won't deny writing edgy things. Comics do it www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEQOvyGbBtY they make it funny. I skate a similar (but less bold then that!) edge and I fall flat. Maybe it is just me. .......................... And rest assured I have not desire to get the forum in trouble and I've no issue with anything admin does or how the site is ran. If I cross a line she doesn't like and it gets removed. And I'm ok with that. I have complete faith that the admin will run this site perfectly. I'm grateful for the medium and the congregation of like minded individuals. The people I have come to trust. Yeah I love this place. It beats the hell outta freedom underground. And again, thanks for the nod that I could be human rather than a disinformation agent. Edit to add this: If this one good thing comes out of all this.. that at least a few of us can let past disagreements be put aside with out animosity , that we might recognize each other as human once more.... Well then maybe all the other stuff was worth it that this one hatchet could be buried. I don't know, but I find many of your posts quite offensive. You don't threaten to kill the president, that is not something a rational person does online.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#58. To: FormerLurker (#53)
FL at #53 Thank you both. Am wondering when you noticed 4um was shrinking, Ricky, and what might have caused that to happen. RickyJ at #52
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#59. To: titorite (#54)
It's not a matter of offending me personally. There are issues I'm concerned about, such as I've mentioned. Also, that people who choose not to post on the board but to participate in discussions and comaraderie as a group member through e-mail will find their options and input closed out by this more to mostly observer status or singular exchanges only. Maybe not but it's a possible consequence, even if it wasn't intended, and a high price for them, if so, for us to learn PM protocols on the fly. Grey.... I am sorry to of offended you... I clearly see I have.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#60. To: GreyLmist (#59) (Edited)
All I can say is I'm sorry. I saw others moving stuff to the public side and all the talk of less private messages filling up our boxes and more call for public conversation... Under the circumstances I did not presume it to be a taboo. Especially since nothing we were talking about was dirty. I did post commentary of others without asking permission first. This much is true. I was in the process of responding in one spot and then did so elsewhere. Lead.and.Lag promptly snared me over triviality. A train soon formed. And I am left defending the position of speaking out against tyranny.... I had hoped the message in the words would of been the topic of conversation much more so then the messenger of those words. I will endeavor to do even better.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#61. To: titorite (#60) (Edited)
In my opinion, this isn't about having to defend the position of speaking out against tyranny. It's about proper presentation, trust, respect, erroneous presumptions, reckless endangerment and other possible ramifications -- things like that. Your apology [and pledge of bettering endeavors are good steps]. Everybody makes mistakes. I hope you understand better now about PM protocols but still seem unclear that asserting commentary in a post here as being from a PM of someone else is an unprovable claim by your word alone. I don't want to belabor the issue but hope you will understand that too. Edited for the bracketed section. titorite at #60
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#62. To: GreyLmist (#61) (Edited)
..I did not think it a big deal given the circumstances of the conversation... I would not call it erroneous. ...Nor disrespectful.... nor endangering... This continues to boggle me. It is boggling me because I feel like I did nothing wrong. (aside from not asking permission) I did not quote anyone out of context in an effort to malign them...and they weren't maligned! I have been called to bear a cross for doing what.... what we were talking about doing in the first place? ............... And nobody was endangered. Reckless endangerment is too much. No body has been put in physical harms risk. The treat level for cyber snooping is certainly the same yesterday as it will be tomorrow. Given the subject matter we go on about here. And the argument of pointing attention can not be valid as all the attention seems to be pointed at me ... I wish the attention was about the words I wrote .... About being free... about getting smaller parts of the system to acknowledge the broken larger parts of the system. About doing something postive and productive in a proper and powerful manner..... and I have utterly and completely failed. for the love of god no body need rub that in. In my opinion, this isn't about having to defend the position of speaking out against tyranny. It's about proper presentation, trust, respect, erroneous presumptions, reckless endangerment and other possible ramifications -- things like that.
__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!
#63. To: titorite (#54) (Edited)
No, I am not offended. "Can't we all just get along?"
"Sure, Rodney, but not yet."
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#64. To: Turtle (#30)
Clearly a fag. Research what tribe encouraged fags to prosper and become a cultural norm. They did it by controlling the Media, the Government and the Banks. They are behind child porn, modern day sex slavery and other cultural depravities, as well. Research child snuff films. The tribe is satanic.
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to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
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#65. To: Lod (#25)
Twiggy was leggy, as I recall. ;) speaking of leggy -
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#66. To: BTP Holdings, Lod, christine, titorite, GreyLmist, FormerLurker, RickyJ, Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG, Itistoolate, F.A. Hayek Fan, Horse, wakeup, Hmmmmm, lead.and.lag, James Deffenbach, Turtle, noone222, farmfriend, Esso, X-15, randge, Dakmar, all (#65)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy
#67. To: wudidiz (#66)
Haha!! Hammer meets nail.
-Alex Kurtagic
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