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Title: All Black People Spend Their Time Smoking Marijuana And Popping Out Babies!
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fElcADwoJI
Published: Mar 18, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-03-18 23:03:40 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 916
Comments: 42


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This is about a liberal magazine article.

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#2. To: Horse (#0)

The title of this thread is the kind of stuff you'd read in a Critical Reasoning textbook where it doesn't teach you think but instead plants subliminals in the conscious mind. The seeds of disinformation. Such disinformation tactics are the kind used by CIA to sway people to a way of thinking that creates chaos. It starts with a seed. Be wary here. The First Amendment does not protect speech that incites civil violence.

purplerose  posted on  2013-03-18   23:35:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: purplerose (#2)

The First Amendment does not protect speech that incites civil violence.

Where does it say that in the First Amendment?

Turtle  posted on  2013-03-18   23:38:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#3) (Edited)

legal-dictionary.thefreed...tive,+or+Offensive+Speech

Read section:

Inciting, Provocative, or Offensive Speech

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The incitement of such speech falls under the Fighting Words doctrine which is not protected under the First Amendment. This comment does not pertain to Horse's thread at all but to the woman (named "Anna")from Moscow which the CNN anchorwoman was referring to. I sense that the Moscow lady responsible for the comment may be KGB.

Were I a journalist, I would have asked this "Anna" how long she has been in the U.S. and what is her occupation.

purplerose  posted on  2013-03-19   0:08:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: purplerose (#6)

So what if it is either provocative or offensive. The function of the First Amendment is to protect the right of free speech - any speech regardless of whether we personally find it offensive or provocative. Incitement to riot does not justify or excuse rioting.

Unless the speech we abhor is protected then we do not have FREE speech. The First Amendment does not protect just the speech we agree with.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-03-19   2:52:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Incitement to riot does not justify or excuse rioting.

That makes no sense at all. What triggers incitement to riot is a kind of action or speech that many refer to as "hate speech". Hate speech notice is placed in just about every police department these days. Such notices exists in L.A. police stations. Hate speech is not protected under the First Amendment when it triggers riots on the streets. The offender responsible for such speech should be held accountable for their actions. In this case, it would be "Anna" from Moscow. It is highly possible that Anna is neither a resident of Philadelphia nor is she a U.S. citizen. Or this video is just a sham.

purplerose  posted on  2013-03-19   12:44:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: purplerose (#8)

Hate speech is still speech. It is not an action nor is it a threat or attack on the well being or body of someone else. That does not mean I approve of it, but when government, the law, is allowed to determine what is, and is not, acceptable speech you are no longer free and it opens the door to much mischief. It opens the door to arbitrary determinations that speech which is truthful, but uncomfortable, is forbidden speech. A direct threat of violence etc., is another matter and while someone should not be forbidden to utter such they can be restrained and even sanctioned for making threats, but that is a special case.

Further, hate speech, like pornography, is in the eye/ear of the beholder and not all people are going to to be agreed that any given instance is in fact "hate speech". I frequently disagree with our resident racist pigs but I would not forbid their speaking even though I find it shallow, narrow minded, irrational, and even hateful.

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