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Title: 4um's New Look Goes Live!
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Nov 23, 2005
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2005-11-23 16:43:55 by Neil McIver
Ping List: *4um Admin News*     Subscribe to *4um Admin News*
Keywords: 4ums, Live!, Look
Views: 954
Comments: 119

As all should now be able to see, 4um has a new look. The gist of everything is in place but there will be further tweaking of the look in the coming days.

The software is being specifically redesigned to work with style sheets (css). This will allow fine tuning of fonts to the preference of the forum owner, which was hardcoded into the software previously. That work will be on-going.

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#79. To: RickyJ (#77)

LOL...hey, you don't see any flowers in our design! :P

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: markm0722 (#78)

When "they" come busting through my front door looking to "correct" my free speech, maybe, just maybe, one of them will hesitate when they see how pretty the site looks. That may give me the time to offer milk and cookies before they open fire. This new look might just save my life. Well done!

very astute observation! see? there was a method to our madness!

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: wbales, Rickyj (#76)

come on now, you have to admit, this is far more sophisticated and classy looking than the old look which we threw up in a hurry to get the place open.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Neil McIver, Christine, Zipporah All (#0)

Thank you Neil, Christine, and Zipporah. This site looks brilliant.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!



"What is this JEWS thing. You sound like a Nazi." -- Mekons4 posted on 2005-06-02 23:41:48 ET

NOLAJBS  posted on  2005-11-23   23:42:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: NOLAJBS (#82)

Thanks!! Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.. have a blessed day with your family!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Neil McIver, Zipporah, Christine (#40)

It's nice, very stylish, but fonts are too small, not as easy to read as before. Otherwise, I think I'll get used to it and it'll feel comfy.

Happy Thanksgiving~!! Added after seeing preview: THE PREVIEW SCREEN IS GREAT~!! Clean, neat, easy to read... If the rest was like that, it'd be poifect...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: siagiah (#84)

it's a work in progress. we'll be dealing with the font sizes tomorrow. thanks for your input, sia. ;)

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   0:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: siagiah (#84)

what browser do you use?

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   0:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: siagiah (#84)

It's nice, very stylish, but fonts are too small, not as easy to read as before. Otherwise, I think I'll get used to it and it'll feel comfy.

Happy Thanksgiving~!! Added after seeing preview: THE PREVIEW SCREEN IS GREAT~!! Clean, neat, easy to read... If the rest was like that, it'd be poifect...

I know the font issue is something we're working on.. and its an issue in some browsers as chris said..

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving.. are you going out or cooking? Are your girls going to be at home?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine, Zipporah (#86)

If I don't like it can I get my deposit back?

Hey buddy! You got any spare change.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2005-11-24   0:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Hmmmmm (#88)

f I don't like it can I get my deposit back?

Naw.. you get charged double :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Neil McIver (#0)

WOW!!!! It looks really nice but to be honest - I find it much harder to read. The type seems smaller and harder to read and the grey background provides less contrast with the type.

Don't mean to sound unappreciative as I know how hard you folks work on the Forum and just providing it is a great thing. But it is harder to read and I guess for me, that's the most important thing. :)

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   1:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: mehitable (#90)

But it is harder to read and I guess for me, that's the most important thing. :)

Thanks for your input.. Neil is still working on the font issues.. but we wanted to go ahead and get the new version online.. it should be resolved in a couple of days.. Neil's time online is limited.. Happy Thanksgiving!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   1:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine (#81)

come on now, you have to admit, this is far more sophisticated and classy looking than the old look which we threw up in a hurry to get the place open.

Yeah, it looks really good. And I think that maybe I just don't like change too much. The more I get use to it, the more I like it. However I had no problem with the way it was before though.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-24   1:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Zipporah, christine (#91)

Nice look ... it seems more of an artistic forum now, as opposed to a forum concerned with the body politick. You gals are getting kooky.

buckeroo  posted on  2005-11-24   1:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Zipporah (#91)

Happy Thanksgiving, Zip!!!! What are you still doing up? Personally I'm dreading seeing my inlaws tomorrow (shudder)....

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   1:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mehitable (#94)

Happy Thanksgiving, Zip!!!! What are you still doing up? Personally I'm dreading seeing my inlaws tomorrow (shudder)....

I'm dreading it too. I hate to say it, but it kind of spoils Thanksgiving for me.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-24   1:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver (#1)

Gyrlz! You like totally rawk!

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-11-24   2:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: RickyJ (#95)

I'm really only going because of my boyfriend, I'd rather stay home myself. The holidays can be so stressful and unpleasant, if you have to spend them with people you don't really care for. Ah well, we'll get through it, it's just for a few hours (shudder)....

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   10:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine, LostBody (#39)

Thread comment size racheted up 2 more notches...

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   12:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: RickyJ (#92)

Yeah, it looks really good. And I think that maybe I just don't like change too much. The more I get use to it, the more I like it.

you get a cyber hug for that and, btw, you have pm. ;)

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   12:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver (#87)

I like it!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-11-24   12:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: RickyJ, mehitable (#95)

Happy Thanksgiving, Zip!!!! What are you still doing up? Personally I'm dreading seeing my inlaws tomorrow (shudder)....

I'm dreading it too. I hate to say it, but it kind of spoils Thanksgiving for me.

Are they members here? ;^)

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   12:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Neil McIver (#101)

Did you just change the font to bold or did the drugs just kick in???

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-11-24   12:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Fred Mertz (#100)

thanks, Fred!

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mehitable (#90)

what browser are you using? this looks perfect size in firefox, but in IE the comment size still looks too small in relation to the buttons and poster's names. also, at what resolution is your screen set?

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   12:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: christine (#103)

I drove eleven hours yesterday to celebrate Thanksgiving with my friends and goddaughter in sunny Florida. When I typed in the 4um URL I thought I mistyped it until I saw Neil's posting bragging about the new look.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-11-24   12:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Starwind (#96)

;P

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   12:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: christine (#106)

Made a font change to the thread comments. Any better?

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   13:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Neil McIver, ALL (#107)

not in IE. it's still teeny tiny and much smaller than your tagline font. preview font size looks great though. i have my resolution at 1280x1024 now. that's where i had it when we had the size right before we went live.

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   13:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: christine (#108)

Hmmmm... in firefox my comment is a bit larger than my tagline.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   13:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Neil McIver (#109)

Test posting in MSIE

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   13:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: All (#109)

Okay, I think part of it is that I've got a different font is firefox than I get in MSIE, and the fonts respond differently to the style sheet size commands.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   13:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Neil McIver (#111)

Littering a dark and dreary road lay the past relics of browser-specific tags, incompatible DOMs, and broken CSS support.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   15:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Neil McIver (#111)

Okay, I think part of it is that I've got a different font is firefox than I get in MSIE, and the fonts respond differently to the style sheet size commands.

You (hopefully) might want to test Opera as well :-)

It's even free now... without banners!

There are some minor display/rendering issues I see, but I don't know that they're not related to problems already reported (fonts and horizontal scrolling).

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-11-24   16:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Starwind (#113)

You (hopefully) might want to test Opera as well :-)

Owww..... Who invented that font?

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   16:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Neil McIver (#114)

You (hopefully) might want to test Opera as well :-)

Owww..... Who invented that font?

Opera is a browser not a font.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-24   16:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: RickyJ (#115)

I know it is. It's just that my Opera displays text in a very ugly font. I can't find a place to make any adjustments in Opera.

Then again, even the opera web site looks ugly in Opera. We may not be able to help Opera.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   17:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Neil McIver (#116)

It's just that my Opera displays text in a very ugly font.

That's odd. It's almost identical to my IE display, just a tad more compact than IE.

I can't find a place to make any adjustments in Opera.

Try:
Tools => preferences => advanced => content => style options
Tools => preferences => advanced => fonts

After customizing, you can toggle back and forth from author mode (whatever the website specifies plus any local overrides made above) or user mode (entirely overridden with your own settings).

Let me know what doesn't work right...I'll try to talk you in.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-11-24   17:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Neil McIver (#117)

FYI, title tags are being generated but *not* filled in on threads, in case no one said anything or you hadn't noticed.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-11-25   15:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Starwind (#118)

we were on the phone together working on things for a couple of hours earlier. neil will be back this evening and we'll continue. as you notice things, keep letting us know. we're having to go over every page with a fine toothed comb! thanks, Starwind.

christine  posted on  2005-11-25   15:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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