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Title: 4um's New Look Goes Live!
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Nov 23, 2005
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2005-11-23 16:43:55 by Neil McIver
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Keywords: 4ums, Live!, Look
Views: 1718
Comments: 119

As all should now be able to see, 4um has a new look. The gist of everything is in place but there will be further tweaking of the look in the coming days.

The software is being specifically redesigned to work with style sheets (css). This will allow fine tuning of fonts to the preference of the forum owner, which was hardcoded into the software previously. That work will be on-going.

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Neil's working on it.. as he said there are some things that will change as he goes along.. be patient! ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   17:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Nice look!

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-11-23   17:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

jim, see my post above. be patient, please. for now, you can make the font larger in your browser.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Font sizes in general should be pretty much set. Changes there would affect the site for everyone.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-23   17:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the comments are tiny font now and so are the article titles on LC. the poster's names are larger than the comments. it should be the opposite. something got messed up. it wasn't like that yesterday.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the taglines are larger than the replies too.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i should specify i'm using IE. it's not as bad in firefox, but both were properly sized yesterday. also, if i set my browser at largest fonts, the go buttons go outside the middle column.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The post comment page is readable and nice.

I'll be visiting my father tomorrow, so maybe things will be all better here upon my return.

Good luck with it.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-23   17:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My MyIE2 font setting is at the LARGEST, btw, and Ctrl plus wheel scrolling has no effect upon the font size, for what that may be worth...resolution is 1280 x 1084.

Now it seems that the Post Comment page has caught the teeny-tiny disease.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-23   17:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Looks Great!

It's about twice as wide as my little monitor, though. Anyone else?

:: 4um's 'ARG List' ::

valis  posted on  2005-11-23   17:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

that's what i'm seeing too. teeny tiny.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

what is your monitor resolution set at? it should be 1024x768.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   17:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whoa! Very nice, very classy look. I'm impressed.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-11-23   18:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've jacked up the font size of the comments when reading threads. Let me know how that looks.

I have to sign off here for the day shortly but will be back on tomorrow.

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-23   18:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whoa! Very nice, very classy look. I'm impressed.

Thanks!! That's precisely what chris and I were striving for..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   18:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanx. For some reason I thought this monitor had to be at 800x600. Duh.

:: 4um's 'ARG List' ::

valis  posted on  2005-11-23   18:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me know how that looks.

It's much better, but don't hesitate to give it another goose or two when you get a chance.

Thanks much!

Cheers.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-23   18:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

on IE, it's still too small. the comments are smaller than the taglines and the article titles on the LC page are still too small.

i should be on til mid afternoon tomorrow to work with you on it. see you then. have a good evening!

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Looks good, can you just adjust the pape to fit in without me scrowling left-right all the time.

Foti

LostBody  posted on  2005-11-23   18:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please refer to the post chris did to valis.. it has to do with the resolution you have your monitor set on.. thanks

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   18:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

check your screen resolution, Foti. it should be at 1024x768. it will fit perfectly without the L/R scroll then.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gosh......... need a double triple set of glasses to read it. LOLOLOLOL. It's ok i'll get used to it.

LostBody  posted on  2005-11-23   18:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

we're still working on the font size. it's too small for me too. neil has to sign off for today though. we'll get it all fixed over the next couple of days.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for all the hard work sprucing up this site.

The background color is a lot easier on the eyes than the old WHITE, and I already feel a lot more at home with the informal patriotic graphics theme.

Y'all got class!

- r.

randge  posted on  2005-11-23   18:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

*blush*

i just checked my resolution. i had it way up there. i just changed it to 1152x864 and it makes a big difference. in IE, the poster comments are still smaller than the taglines, but the article titles on LC are fine. in firefox, everything looks good.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you have a mouse with wheel you can adjust font size inside browser by holding down Control Key and wheeling up or down.

Neil, I'm using Firefox and cannot see the entire page unless I close the sidebar, which I use a lot and don't really want to have to close to keep from having to scroll l/r when I come here. Looks great otherwise, I'm glad to see the return of the underlined link.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   18:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1152 x 864

Ok, I can see entire page now along with browser sidebar, but I'm really of a mind that software should accomodate me.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   18:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ok, I can see entire page now along with browser sidebar, but I'm really of a mind that software should accomodate me.

Neil's working with the graphics guys.. still a work in progress..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Neil's working with the graphics guys.. still a work in progress..

I really looks good so far. You do you want constructive criticism, don't you? Even from goofs?

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of course.. !! If not we'd never be able to address them.. I wasnt offended ..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wasnt offended ...

It's been one of those days...well, yesterday was anyway. Sometimes it's best just to be extra polite.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

t's been one of those days...well, yesterday was anyway. Sometimes it's best just to be extra polite.

Is this where I tell you to go stick it?? :P

But seriously if you do see anything please do let us know.. we want 4 to be user friendly ..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You may want to up the res on your monitor and see if that doesn't lose the scroll necessity.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-23   19:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks loddy, way ahead of you! We need some Cowboy Junkies. Maybe on new thread. I'll start new thread.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Looking real good!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   19:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thank you! still needs some tweaking to get everything just right. ;)

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   19:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There's nothing like coming home, walking into a dark room and damn near getting hurt because the lights are off and someone rearranged the furniture.

I'll second that. To me things were fine just the way they were. Nice art work, but people don't come here for art work.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-23   19:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry, but I'm not able to appreciate what's been done; guess I got no class.

Another Mogambo Day

rack42  posted on  2005-11-23   22:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Very nice job, Neil. I really like the new look. Understated, but very attractive.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-11-23   22:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Love the redesign. I have only one suggestion. The article titles need to be a color to offset them more from the information text under them. May I suggest dark olive green (as in the brush stroke under the logo)?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   22:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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