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Title: 4um's New Look Goes Live!
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Nov 23, 2005
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2005-11-23 16:43:55 by Neil McIver
Ping List: *4um Admin News*     Subscribe to *4um Admin News*
Keywords: 4ums, Live!, Look
Views: 1146
Comments: 119

As all should now be able to see, 4um has a new look. The gist of everything is in place but there will be further tweaking of the look in the coming days.

The software is being specifically redesigned to work with style sheets (css). This will allow fine tuning of fonts to the preference of the forum owner, which was hardcoded into the software previously. That work will be on-going.

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#38. To: christine (#37)

Gosh......... need a double triple set of glasses to read it. LOLOLOLOL. It's ok i'll get used to it.

LostBody  posted on  2005-11-23   18:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: LostBody (#38)

we're still working on the font size. it's too small for me too. neil has to sign off for today though. we'll get it all fixed over the next couple of days.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Thanks for all the hard work sprucing up this site.

The background color is a lot easier on the eyes than the old WHITE, and I already feel a lot more at home with the informal patriotic graphics theme.

Y'all got class!

- r.

randge  posted on  2005-11-23   18:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: LostBody, lodwick, Neil McIver (#38)

*blush*

i just checked my resolution. i had it way up there. i just changed it to 1152x864 and it makes a big difference. in IE, the poster comments are still smaller than the taglines, but the article titles on LC are fine. in firefox, everything looks good.

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   18:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Neil McIver, christine, lodwick, FONT SIZE (#20)

If you have a mouse with wheel you can adjust font size inside browser by holding down Control Key and wheeling up or down.

Neil, I'm using Firefox and cannot see the entire page unless I close the sidebar, which I use a lot and don't really want to have to close to keep from having to scroll l/r when I come here. Looks great otherwise, I'm glad to see the return of the underlined link.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   18:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42)

1152 x 864

Ok, I can see entire page now along with browser sidebar, but I'm really of a mind that software should accomodate me.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   18:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dakmar (#43)

Ok, I can see entire page now along with browser sidebar, but I'm really of a mind that software should accomodate me.

Neil's working with the graphics guys.. still a work in progress..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Zipporah (#44)

Neil's working with the graphics guys.. still a work in progress..

I really looks good so far. You do you want constructive criticism, don't you? Even from goofs?

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Dakmar (#45)

Of course.. !! If not we'd never be able to address them.. I wasnt offended ..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Zipporah (#46)

I wasnt offended ...

It's been one of those days...well, yesterday was anyway. Sometimes it's best just to be extra polite.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Dakmar (#47)

t's been one of those days...well, yesterday was anyway. Sometimes it's best just to be extra polite.

Is this where I tell you to go stick it?? :P

But seriously if you do see anything please do let us know.. we want 4 to be user friendly ..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   19:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Dakmar (#42)

You may want to up the res on your monitor and see if that doesn't lose the scroll necessity.

Lod  posted on  2005-11-23   19:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lodwick (#49)

Thanks loddy, way ahead of you! We need some Cowboy Junkies. Maybe on new thread. I'll start new thread.

And I'm optimistic. See, I think you can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. I'm optimistic we'll achieve -- I know we won't achieve if we send mixed signals. I know we're not going to achieve our objective if we send mixed signals - gwbush

Dakmar  posted on  2005-11-23   19:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Christine (#50)

Looking real good!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   19:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

thank you! still needs some tweaking to get everything just right. ;)

My horoscope for today. Daily bad news reminds you that there will always be a colorful array of potential catastrophes available for your panicking pleasure. How appropriate.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   19:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: orangedog (#5)

There's nothing like coming home, walking into a dark room and damn near getting hurt because the lights are off and someone rearranged the furniture.

I'll second that. To me things were fine just the way they were. Nice art work, but people don't come here for art work.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-23   19:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Sorry, but I'm not able to appreciate what's been done; guess I got no class.

Another Mogambo Day

rack42  posted on  2005-11-23   22:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Very nice job, Neil. I really like the new look. Understated, but very attractive.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-11-23   22:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#0)

Love the redesign. I have only one suggestion. The article titles need to be a color to offset them more from the information text under them. May I suggest dark olive green (as in the brush stroke under the logo)?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   22:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Arator (#56)

Thanks.. glad you like it! We'll consider the suggestion.. thanks so much for your input.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   22:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Is there an individual way to get rid of the gray background? Can I bozo it like I did agent provacateur AKA Stone?

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   22:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#56)

Here's dark olive green in a bigger title font:

4um's New Look Goes Live!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   22:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Zipporah (#57)

Nope. I don't like this. I'm here to concentrate on words and not sideline graphics.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Arator (#59)

You stole my font you bitch.. !

Dubya to the serfs: "It's Raining!"

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-11-23   23:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Arator (#59)

Hey Arator! Happy T-Day!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   23:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wbales (#60)

Nope. I don't like this. I'm here to concentrate on words and not sideline graphics.

Well hopefully you'll adjust to it.. we wanted to make 4 asthetically pleasing and easy on the eye .. unlike the bright white it was.. and wanted to not look like a retread of other forums..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: wbales (#58)

In IE, go to Tools > Internet Options > General > Accessibility, where you check "Ignore colors specified on Web pages."


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-11-23   23:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Neil, this is a political forum--not an art gallery. If you add stobe lights, I'm leaving.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: wbales (#65)

Neil, this is a political forum--not an art gallery. If you add stobe lights, I'm leaving.

Shoot .. that was our next change .. well I guess we have to rethink that one :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: wbales (#65)

stobe lights

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Hey Arator! Happy T-Day!!

Hey JT! Happy T-day to you!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Zipporah (#63)

and wanted to not look like a retread of other forums..

With the comments, links and threads of 4um, it could NEVER be considered a retread of any other forum.

And, dammit, I don't like change.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wbales (#69)

With the comments, links and threads of 4um, it could NEVER be considered a retread of any other forum.

And, dammit, I don't like change.

Well it looked like every other forum.. just look at it this way.. you post at a very unique forum in every way possible :P

We knew some people wouldnt want change.. it's a man thing I think :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Zipporah (#70)

it's a man thing I think

Well, that's a scientific fact.

However, when you look at the new 4um page, it requires more concentration. Drats.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: wbales (#71)

Well, that's a scientific fact.

However, when you look at the new 4um page, it requires more concentration. Drats.

It'll pass.. We've been using the new version for several weeks and it passes.. you'll learn to love it.. OF COURSE :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: wbales (#71)

To: Neil McIver, ALL (#0) As you navigate, you'll see some things that need tweaking as far as font size and color. It's a work in progress but we were anxious for everyone to see the new logo and art! The design was a joint effort by Zipporah and me, however, we hired a local webdesigner, Chalant Print, who also designed my Bring 'Em Home site, to do the work. Neil is the one who is integrating and implementing it all. Thanks, Neil, for all your effort. Zip and I are very pleased.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Zipporah (#72)

It shall take considerable effort to grow accustomed to what appears as spilled paint.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: wbales (#74)

t shall take considerable effort to grow accustomed to what appears as spilled paint.

Well.. I dont know what to tell you other than give it time.. ?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: christine (#73)

OK. I'll shut up now.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: wbales (#69)

I think the art work is great, but it sucks to read words on it, and that's what people are here for, right? But hey, if 4um has become the art forum, so be it, I'll just make sure I try to fit in when I post here from now on. LOL!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-23   23:22:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Neil McIver (#0)

When "they" come busting through my front door looking to "correct" my free speech, maybe, just maybe, one of them will hesitate when they see how pretty the site looks. That may give me the time to offer milk and cookies before they open fire. This new look might just save my life. Well done!

Oh oh. What did I say? Why are the black helicopters hovering outside my house again? Sheesh! ;)

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The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
There are 9,000 hedge funds out there. There aren't that many smart people in the world. - Michael Driscoll, a trader at Bear Stearns & Co. in New York
Some days you just want to pull out the Bonehead Stick and beat people senseless. - mirage

markm0722  posted on  2005-11-23   23:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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