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Title: 4um's New Look Goes Live!
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Nov 23, 2005
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2005-11-23 16:43:55 by Neil McIver
Ping List: *4um Admin News*     Subscribe to *4um Admin News*
Keywords: 4ums, Live!, Look
Views: 1161
Comments: 119

As all should now be able to see, 4um has a new look. The gist of everything is in place but there will be further tweaking of the look in the coming days.

The software is being specifically redesigned to work with style sheets (css). This will allow fine tuning of fonts to the preference of the forum owner, which was hardcoded into the software previously. That work will be on-going.

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#59. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#56)

Here's dark olive green in a bigger title font:

4um's New Look Goes Live!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   22:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Zipporah (#57)

Nope. I don't like this. I'm here to concentrate on words and not sideline graphics.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Arator (#59)

You stole my font you bitch.. !

Dubya to the serfs: "It's Raining!"

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-11-23   23:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Arator (#59)

Hey Arator! Happy T-Day!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   23:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wbales (#60)

Nope. I don't like this. I'm here to concentrate on words and not sideline graphics.

Well hopefully you'll adjust to it.. we wanted to make 4 asthetically pleasing and easy on the eye .. unlike the bright white it was.. and wanted to not look like a retread of other forums..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: wbales (#58)

In IE, go to Tools > Internet Options > General > Accessibility, where you check "Ignore colors specified on Web pages."


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-11-23   23:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Neil, this is a political forum--not an art gallery. If you add stobe lights, I'm leaving.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: wbales (#65)

Neil, this is a political forum--not an art gallery. If you add stobe lights, I'm leaving.

Shoot .. that was our next change .. well I guess we have to rethink that one :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: wbales (#65)

stobe lights

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Hey Arator! Happy T-Day!!

Hey JT! Happy T-day to you!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Zipporah (#63)

and wanted to not look like a retread of other forums..

With the comments, links and threads of 4um, it could NEVER be considered a retread of any other forum.

And, dammit, I don't like change.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wbales (#69)

With the comments, links and threads of 4um, it could NEVER be considered a retread of any other forum.

And, dammit, I don't like change.

Well it looked like every other forum.. just look at it this way.. you post at a very unique forum in every way possible :P

We knew some people wouldnt want change.. it's a man thing I think :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Zipporah (#70)

it's a man thing I think

Well, that's a scientific fact.

However, when you look at the new 4um page, it requires more concentration. Drats.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: wbales (#71)

Well, that's a scientific fact.

However, when you look at the new 4um page, it requires more concentration. Drats.

It'll pass.. We've been using the new version for several weeks and it passes.. you'll learn to love it.. OF COURSE :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: wbales (#71)

To: Neil McIver, ALL (#0) As you navigate, you'll see some things that need tweaking as far as font size and color. It's a work in progress but we were anxious for everyone to see the new logo and art! The design was a joint effort by Zipporah and me, however, we hired a local webdesigner, Chalant Print, who also designed my Bring 'Em Home site, to do the work. Neil is the one who is integrating and implementing it all. Thanks, Neil, for all your effort. Zip and I are very pleased.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Zipporah (#72)

It shall take considerable effort to grow accustomed to what appears as spilled paint.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: wbales (#74)

t shall take considerable effort to grow accustomed to what appears as spilled paint.

Well.. I dont know what to tell you other than give it time.. ?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: christine (#73)

OK. I'll shut up now.

Why should we hear about body bags and deaths. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? -- Big Mama Bush

wbales  posted on  2005-11-23   23:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: wbales (#69)

I think the art work is great, but it sucks to read words on it, and that's what people are here for, right? But hey, if 4um has become the art forum, so be it, I'll just make sure I try to fit in when I post here from now on. LOL!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-23   23:22:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Neil McIver (#0)

When "they" come busting through my front door looking to "correct" my free speech, maybe, just maybe, one of them will hesitate when they see how pretty the site looks. That may give me the time to offer milk and cookies before they open fire. This new look might just save my life. Well done!

Oh oh. What did I say? Why are the black helicopters hovering outside my house again? Sheesh! ;)

When prosperity comes, do not use all of it. - Confucious
The nation is prosperous on the whole, but how much prosperity is there in a hole? - Will Rogers
There are 9,000 hedge funds out there. There aren't that many smart people in the world. - Michael Driscoll, a trader at Bear Stearns & Co. in New York
Some days you just want to pull out the Bonehead Stick and beat people senseless. - mirage

markm0722  posted on  2005-11-23   23:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: RickyJ (#77)

LOL...hey, you don't see any flowers in our design! :P

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: markm0722 (#78)

When "they" come busting through my front door looking to "correct" my free speech, maybe, just maybe, one of them will hesitate when they see how pretty the site looks. That may give me the time to offer milk and cookies before they open fire. This new look might just save my life. Well done!

very astute observation! see? there was a method to our madness!

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: wbales, Rickyj (#76)

come on now, you have to admit, this is far more sophisticated and classy looking than the old look which we threw up in a hurry to get the place open.

christine  posted on  2005-11-23   23:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Neil McIver, Christine, Zipporah All (#0)

Thank you Neil, Christine, and Zipporah. This site looks brilliant.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!



"What is this JEWS thing. You sound like a Nazi." -- Mekons4 posted on 2005-06-02 23:41:48 ET

NOLAJBS  posted on  2005-11-23   23:42:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: NOLAJBS (#82)

Thanks!! Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.. have a blessed day with your family!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-23   23:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Neil McIver, Zipporah, Christine (#40)

It's nice, very stylish, but fonts are too small, not as easy to read as before. Otherwise, I think I'll get used to it and it'll feel comfy.

Happy Thanksgiving~!! Added after seeing preview: THE PREVIEW SCREEN IS GREAT~!! Clean, neat, easy to read... If the rest was like that, it'd be poifect...

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: siagiah (#84)

it's a work in progress. we'll be dealing with the font sizes tomorrow. thanks for your input, sia. ;)

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   0:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: siagiah (#84)

what browser do you use?

christine  posted on  2005-11-24   0:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: siagiah (#84)

It's nice, very stylish, but fonts are too small, not as easy to read as before. Otherwise, I think I'll get used to it and it'll feel comfy.

Happy Thanksgiving~!! Added after seeing preview: THE PREVIEW SCREEN IS GREAT~!! Clean, neat, easy to read... If the rest was like that, it'd be poifect...

I know the font issue is something we're working on.. and its an issue in some browsers as chris said..

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving.. are you going out or cooking? Are your girls going to be at home?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine, Zipporah (#86)

If I don't like it can I get my deposit back?

Hey buddy! You got any spare change.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2005-11-24   0:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Hmmmmm (#88)

f I don't like it can I get my deposit back?

Naw.. you get charged double :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   0:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Neil McIver (#0)

WOW!!!! It looks really nice but to be honest - I find it much harder to read. The type seems smaller and harder to read and the grey background provides less contrast with the type.

Don't mean to sound unappreciative as I know how hard you folks work on the Forum and just providing it is a great thing. But it is harder to read and I guess for me, that's the most important thing. :)

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   1:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: mehitable (#90)

But it is harder to read and I guess for me, that's the most important thing. :)

Thanks for your input.. Neil is still working on the font issues.. but we wanted to go ahead and get the new version online.. it should be resolved in a couple of days.. Neil's time online is limited.. Happy Thanksgiving!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-24   1:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine (#81)

come on now, you have to admit, this is far more sophisticated and classy looking than the old look which we threw up in a hurry to get the place open.

Yeah, it looks really good. And I think that maybe I just don't like change too much. The more I get use to it, the more I like it. However I had no problem with the way it was before though.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-24   1:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Zipporah, christine (#91)

Nice look ... it seems more of an artistic forum now, as opposed to a forum concerned with the body politick. You gals are getting kooky.

buckeroo  posted on  2005-11-24   1:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Zipporah (#91)

Happy Thanksgiving, Zip!!!! What are you still doing up? Personally I'm dreading seeing my inlaws tomorrow (shudder)....

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   1:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mehitable (#94)

Happy Thanksgiving, Zip!!!! What are you still doing up? Personally I'm dreading seeing my inlaws tomorrow (shudder)....

I'm dreading it too. I hate to say it, but it kind of spoils Thanksgiving for me.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2005-11-24   1:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver (#1)

Gyrlz! You like totally rawk!

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-11-24   2:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: RickyJ (#95)

I'm really only going because of my boyfriend, I'd rather stay home myself. The holidays can be so stressful and unpleasant, if you have to spend them with people you don't really care for. Ah well, we'll get through it, it's just for a few hours (shudder)....

mehitable  posted on  2005-11-24   10:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine, LostBody (#39)

Thread comment size racheted up 2 more notches...

Pinguinite for Pinguins

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-11-24   12:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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