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Title: Study: Archeologists find remains of human-Neanderthal hybrid
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/ ... s-of-human-neanderthal-hybrid/
Published: Mar 29, 2013
Author: Stephen C. Webster
Post Date: 2013-03-29 08:57:03 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 388
Comments: 17

Researchers believe they have pinpointed the skeletal remains of the first known human-Neanderthal hybrid, according to a study published Wednesday in the peer reviewed scientific journal PLoS ONE.

The finding comes from northern Italy, where some 40,000 years ago scientists believe Neanderthals and humans lived near each other, but developed separate and distinctly different cultures.

A portion of a jawbone found during an archaeological dig in the area reveals that the bone’s owner had facial features attributable to both modern humans and Neanderthals, the study explains.

Scientists have debated the theory of human-Neanderthal interbreeding since DNA analysis revealed in 2010 that modern humans share significant portions of their genetic code with their long extinct cousins.

Studies since then have suggested that inbreeding might not have been the case and that humans and Neanderthals instead likely shared a common ancestor before Neanderthals died out about 50,000 years ago, but the findings in PLoS One seem to contradict that thinking.

Of course, despite the wonders of modern science, there’s really no telling whether the sex was consensual or not, but the PLoS One study does seem to suggest that a scenario not unlike the “Clan of the Cave Bear” books is indeed plausible. ——

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

There were Neanderthals in North America - Clovus and the Solutreans. Some of the skeletons were 6'2".

Non-Africans average 2.5% Neanderthal DNA. Africans don't have any, which is why they're retarded and the lowest form of human.

Turtle  posted on  2013-03-29   22:15:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"According to Richard Lynn and others, racial differences in IQ scores are observed around the world. A commonly-cited review by Richard Lynn lists IQ scores for East Asians (105), Europeans (99), Inuit (91), Southeast Asians and Amerindians (87 each), Pacific Islanders (85), South Asians/North Africans (84), Non-Bushmen sub-Saharan Africans (67), Australian Aborigines (62) and Bushmen (54)."

Lod  posted on  2013-03-30   13:16:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)

The problem though with IQ testing is the bias introduced by the designer of the test as well as vocabulary. The problem with IQ testing is that all IQ tests have the bias of the test writer(s) built in. It can either be subconscious or conscious and is cursedly difficult to eliminate. As was found during the 1940's IQ tests very often reflect language as much or more than actual intelligence. The IQ tests used on entrance examinations by the military had a built in bias to language as used by city dwellers. Thus a lot of young men from the country and rural small towns scored very low thus leading to the bias against "dumb hicks". It wasn't that they were dumb but they spoke a flavor of English which was different from that spoken by the city kids for whom the test was written. It even went so far as scenarios written into the testing were common to city kids but completely foreign to their equally intelligent country brethren. How many country kids of the 30's and early 40's would have been familiar with common urban settings? How many Bushmen know what a street light or stop signal is? Robert Heinlein did a good job of illustrating with a hypothetical example of a 190 IQ caveman transported into a modern nuclear laboratory. After a couple of weeks he might know that a purple trefoil meant danger but he would have no clue as to the nature of the danger.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-03-30   15:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"The problem with IQ testing is that all IQ tests have the bias of the test writer(s) built in......As was found during the 1940's IQ tests very often reflect language as much or more than actual intelligence..........a lot of young men from the country and rural small towns scored very low thus leading to the bias against "dumb hicks". It wasn't that they were dumb but they spoke a flavor of English which was different from that spoken by the city kids for whom the test was written. It even went so far as scenarios written into the testing were common to city kids but completely foreign to their equally intelligent country brethren. How many country kids of the 30's and early 40's would have been familiar with common urban settings?"

Year 2013: We all have access to the same TV programs, the same textbooks in school, etc. The cities are now full of Mexicans and blacks, and the white kids are now in the country. Who's still getting the higher test scores?

Big Meanie  posted on  2013-03-30   16:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"The problem with IQ testing is that all IQ tests have the bias of the test writer(s) built in......As was found during the 1940's IQ tests very often reflect language as much or more than actual intelligence..........a lot of young men from the country and rural small towns scored very low thus leading to the bias against "dumb hicks". It wasn't that they were dumb but they spoke a flavor of English which was different from that spoken by the city kids for whom the test was written. It even went so far as scenarios written into the testing were common to city kids but completely foreign to their equally intelligent country brethren. How many country kids of the 30's and early 40's would have been familiar with common urban settings?"

Year 2013: We all have access to the same TV programs, the same textbooks in school, etc. The cities are now full of Mexicans and blacks, and the white kids are now in the country. Who's still getting the higher test scores?

I would argue that language is still the big unaccounted for variable. It is a sad reality that in the culture of da 'hood to speak, read, and write standard English is considered "actin' White" and kids who do it are persecuted back into the herd. Similar applies to Mexicans whose culture does not value anything beyond about a 6th grade education and there is a resistance to learning English. Why waste time going to school when you should be working? Why bother with English when you can draw welfare speaking Spanish?

The reverse is true in the Asian community where education and erudition are highly valued and demanded of Asian children. Consequently they have a much better command of language and it shows in the results. The anti-intellectual thread in White America results in a mixed bag with upper middle class scoring higher because a higher level of education is expected.

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