I read someone saying the wound was cauterized because the heat from the blast was 3000 F and the shrapnel travels at 60,000 mph.
That is effin' moronic. There wouldn't have been any survivors if that were true.
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If that is a real picture of the scene, then you have to know that the guy didn't just have his legs blown off, he has his leg right up on the hooded guy's jacket and the hooded guy still has no blood on him there! This is as fake as it gets!
I am completely and utterly disgusted by you necrophiliac ghouls who try to score your conspiracist crackpot points on a man who lost his legs.
When you get cut you bleed right? This guy had both legs missing, supposedly by a bomb just seconds ago, where is the blood? Is this guy a zombie?
They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
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The following article isn't Boston. It's about Sandy Hook. In my opinion, Laurie Roth asks some damn good questions. It doesn't pass the smell test and was, imo, a staged event. I think the same about Boston. I'm sure that the brothers are CIA operatives/patsies. That's enough for me to be dubious about the whole thing including the wheelchair man who, imo, would have looked a hell of a lot bloodier and in far worse condition after having both legs blown off and a femoral artery severed. If that makes me nuts for being suspicious, then so be it.
They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
exactly. he would have been in shock and probably bled out in minutes.
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I have had a fair amount of training in Advanced First Aid (Red Cross Advanced Card - which I qualified for twice and other training).
The criticism about the blood is absolutely legitimate. It is emphasized over, and over, and over again that arterial bleeding must be stopped or your victim will be dead in a matter of minutes. An injury of that type would have severed the femoral artery in the leg. Unstaunched you are dead in less than 2 minutes and there would be massive amounts of blood spread around the site of the victim with the blown off legs. There was not only no blood but the victim was conscious. It is highly unlikely that the victim would still be conscious after massive blood loss. Even if the bleeding was sealed off with a tourniquet withing 30 seconds the blood loss should have been enough to render the victim comatose and in deep shock. The victim in the chair appears to be reasonably alert. Adrenalin can do strange things but it cannot replace lost blood.
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he had bled profusely and his blood volume and blood pressure had both diminished (as indicated by his very greyish complexion) so he was not continuing to spurt blood like a Monty Python character.
Agreed.
It makes sense to me. But I'm not a trauma surgeon or a corpsman. I wish I knew one.
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They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
Carlos's account of things is that he was only a few yards from Bauman when the bomb blew up right in front of Bauman's feet. Bauman was so disoriented he didn't realize that he had lost both his legs. Carlos IMMEDIATELY grabbed him, put on tourniquets and then grabbed an empty wheelchair that some other emergency person was pushing someplace, plopped Bauman in the wheelchair and then used it to transport Bauman to an ambulance.
In the few minutes following the explosion there were no ambulances, and certainly no evac helicopters, right at the explosion site. Carlos had to push Bauman around the corner to find an ambulance.
That's enough for me to be dubious about the whole thing including the wheelchair man who, imo, would have looked a hell of a lot bloodier and in far worse condition after having both legs blown off and a femoral artery severed. If that makes me nuts for being suspicious, then so be it.
Thing is christine, what's easier to pull off, staging a REAL event, or staging a FAKE one? Why bother with involving scores of "actors" to fake being injured when it's so much easier to REALLY hurt uninvolved people?
There was no control over who would be in the area of the blast at any one point in time. And what about the dead people and those in the hospital with real injuries?
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i'm not saying that there are no real victims. of course there are, but, again, if you believe it was a staged event, which i do, then that could also include the use of actors.
i don't know, but i'm not going to close my mind to any possibility.
here: The criticism about the blood is absolutely legitimate. It is emphasized over, and over, and over again that arterial bleeding must be stopped or your victim will be dead in a matter of minutes. An injury of that type would have severed the femoral artery in the leg. Unstaunched you are dead in less than 2 minutes and there would be massive amounts of blood spread around the site of the victim with the blown off legs. There was not only no blood but the victim was conscious. It is highly unlikely that the victim would still be conscious after massive blood loss. Even if the bleeding was sealed off with a tourniquet withing 30 seconds the blood loss should have been enough to render the victim comatose and in deep shock. The victim in the chair appears to be reasonably alert. Adrenalin can do strange things but it cannot replace lost blood. --OI
I know how quickly two bleeding ulcers put me down...I was unconscious before they got me into the emergency OR.
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What questions are you trying to get answered Ben? I read through this, I'm pretty sure I only saw one question, and you answered it yourself shortly after. It doesn't look like you're asking questions, just posting a few pictures where it's really hard to tell what's going on, and trying to use them as proof that they were actors and fake prosthetic amputee legs, while throwing very, very, very simplified and pretty much incorrect medical info in there to try to prove your point.
First off, stop saying people were getting spinal assessments and strapped into "spine board stretchers". There isn't a single backboard in any of these pictures, not one. That alone should start tipping people off that you really don't know what you're talking about. And stop using the apparent reactions and facial expressions of the people in the picture, and the EMS personnel ignoring the double leg amputee and going for the people around him, as proof. For starters, these are pictures, you can't exactly gauge people's behavior from a few still photos. After a huge concussive blast goes off right next to you, you're gonna be disoriented and confused, and you're gonna be distracted from your injuries. I do strongly agree that EMS should have treated the double amputee first, and he should be the first person we see on a stretcher, but just because the EMT's and paramedics didn't follow protocol isn't proof that it's all fake.
And stop trying to tell people you're gonna bleed out in seconds and die from below the knee amputations. If you sever your femoral artery while it's still the femoral artery, you have a huge risk of bleeding out, but they quickly branch into about 4 different main branches in each leg by the time they get to the knee, and the vast majority of blood from the femoral arteries goes to the quads and then right back up through the femoral veins. If it was a clean cut at the knee, you would still have at least a minute, probably a few minutes, before you bleed out, and that's if you do nothing to stop the bleeding. Small arteries have enough musculature to reflexively contract and provide some resistance to lower the blood flow to them to reduce bleeding out if they're badly damaged. The guy had plenty of time and ability to have direct manual pressure applied before the tourniquet can be tied.
It's good to ask questions, and it's good to not believe everything the media tells you. And there's a lot of questions about the involvement of the FBI, so I like seeing people actually really pushing for answers to pressing questions. But you're not doing any of that, you're taking a few bigfoot-esque photos, claiming there are things happening in them that nobody can see, and then using bullshit pseudoscience to prove that they had some extremely elaborate set up to make fake victim actors. It's nutfucks like you that take the conspiracies too far that make the rest of the sane people that acknowledge the government and media lie to us look like we're all a bunch of loonies. Stop spreading bullshit, don't take a few pics and claim they're evidence of an elaborate set-up when they clearly aren't. All it does is hamper the efforts to actually find out the truth and get questions answered.
And before you take the insecure little bitch route again and tell everyone my IP address and name and then google maps where I am and some local landmarks, my name is Jake Frier, I'm a former EMT and current medical student in Syracuse. Why don't you try to keep the arguments on your shitty little blog professional and on-topic, and don't resort to exposing people's names and locations you little freak.
here's a good comment (i am being openminded) to this article
The Tsarnaev brothers were controlled by the FBI. This would explain why they did nothing after the Russian authorities called them to say that they were suspicious of the brothers when they visited Russia. ;)
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There are only about 5 quarts of blood in a grown man. Since Bauman is still alive, figure he didn't lose more than 2 quarts. In the photos he's very greyish, so he certainly lost a significant amount. I daresay that someone with REAL experience in such injuries, such as a combat medic, can tell you about uncanny survivals of explosions and the very odd effects possible in explosion injuries.
Many believe deceased Sandy Hook Principal Dawn Hochsprung is alive after a photo of her as a survivor of the Boston bombings being interviewed spread on the Internet. The Fox News image is a fake and was never shown on TV.
we heard that deceased Sandy Hook principal, Dawn Hochsprung was spotted at the Boston Marathon.
It turns out that FOX NEWS may have reported the story then pulled it off the internet with no trace, retraction or apology. The former link to the story at FOX NEWS INSIDER is now a ["404 - Page Not Found"].
Additionally, it appears that the search function of the FOX NEWS site has invoked content restriction for anyone searching for Dawn Hochsprung.
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Early News reported that Boston Marathon mile-marker 26 was dedicated to the Sandy Hook victims.
It's thought that FOX News may have been showing the pic of Hochsprung when reporting on the Sandy Hook dedicated mile-marker while the banner scrolling below the pic was reporting on a Boston Marathon runner named Donna Bruce, who was interviewed as a witness of the bombings. Oddly enough, the alleged new Principal for the Sandy Hook school is also named Donna [Page]. However, wafflesatnoon.com points out that the News source is not identified and it might be a CNN banner depicted. It's also odd, though, that the Newtown Bee reportedly interviewed Hochsprung after the Sandy Hook shooting and then made this Retraction and Apology but "neglects to say who she [the woman interviewed] was. So, who was she and why did she identify herself as principle Dawn Hochsprung?":
An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the schools principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted.
We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family.
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The problem with telling lies is that they have to be consistent with observed events to be believable. When something slips, as appears to have happened here, it shatters the lie.
The other problem the liars confront is that a lot of the people they are lying to are brighter than they are. It takes no real brains to tell a lie.
The other problem that the liars face is that as much as they control the lamestream mediawhores that someone chosen for a "pretty face" and convincing delivery is not necessarily the sharpest tool in the shed. Witness Oh'bummer - without his teleprompter he sounds like an idiot as did Bush the Lesser.
The upshot is that we, anyone with at least three functioning brain cells (Sorry FreepTards I had to set the cut-off somewhere - maybe next time I'll include you.), are on to the fact that our own government is conducting False Flag Operations to sway public sentiment to support what they had already decided to do, and to surrender our liberties for the comfort of Big Brother's "loving" protection. The OKC False Flag was the first major one and every additional False Flag has simply served to wake more people up.
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Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)
The psychotics running the show ARE killing children. I believe that children were killed at Sandy Hoax, and at Columbine, BUT I do not think that the zombified patsies were the only participants in the killing. I think one of the things that most people do not want to believe, because it is foreign to their nature and sense of right and wrong, is that the psychotics in charge really are insane. Screamingly so, and they have absolutely no compunction in murdering a million children if that is what it takes to push their program of domination along.
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)
Oh, no, that just couldn't be. The Telly told me that all that nonsense is just a ((((shudder)))) conspiracy theory and to go back to grazing. That big truck is just here to take us to "a better pasture". /cynical sarcasm
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)
Looks more than coincidental...and like occultic spells.
You can find occultic references over and over and over again in these false flags and in other gubbermint operations - such as NASA launches and missions.
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law)
Grounding of the Space Shuttle fleet for nearly three years during which various safety measures, solid rocket booster redesign, and a new policy on management decision-making for future launches were implemented.
Thank you for the info, wud. I watched a dystopian-type movie in recent years that I can't remember the title of and don't recall much about but early on in it there was a scene where a city was in a warlike situation and, even though things were being blown to smithereens around a person, they just kept going about their business like nothing was happening except business as usual. What brought that to mind is that I've been getting the impression lately that people aren't concerned so much that Ops are being perpetrated against us devastatingly as they are about people noticing that. Nevertheless, I'll review those sources attentively at my earliest convenience.
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This is a comment by the video uploader, Betsy McGee, 1 week ago at Part 2 of 2, in reply to a comment about journalists and the free press not keeping things honest and us informed:
"...a duty, in which, they have failed MISERABLY. I'm about to post a video exposing one of them. Big time SHILL... guy is really irritating me. Boston.com's Steve Silva..."
Boston.com sports producer Steve Silva was near the finish line when the explosions occurred near the intersection of Boylston and Exeter streets.
This is a YouTube comment by wikkid61 4 days ago at the Part 1 of 2 segment for the 4um posted videos but it has been hidden since by negative votes:
A few days ago I found a video of two witnesses claiming that they just happened to see the first plane hit the first tower on 9/11... and one of the witness's names was STEVE SILVA. Imagine my surprise! It did not, however, say "Boston.com's Steve Silva" or anything like that, so I took the footage of the 9/11 witness call and pieced it together with the Boston witness footage and it's the same person.