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Title: Boston Bomb Hoax: Phoney Leg Bone Prosthetic Falls Off
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Published: Apr 25, 2013
Author: pikeaero
Post Date: 2013-04-25 19:00:57 by wudidiz
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#60. To: Lod (#58)
I doubt they'd show autopy photos or images of the deceased in their caskets Lod. Even if there WERE such images floating around, some folks would say they were fake too, and that all of those people's family, friends, and relatives are in it, and say it with a straight face. Yep, the entire mass of victims and their families, friends, and co-workers are all in it to fool you wud, you've figured out their plans. Sure, they cancelled the Marathon and set up a Hollywood stage with hired actors, just for YOU wudidiz. Man, you are a bright one aren't you. Many obits have details about cremation, what charity to give to in lieu of flowers, etc, but so far, I've seen nothing that rings true here. I'll keep looking. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken I think I've figured out what's going on here. With the onslaught of horrific events over the past several decades some people just can't deal with it any longer and resort to a fantasy world within their minds where they convince themselves that none of it is real, it is all "faked" and staged with hired actors, no matter what the event. It brings them back to a comfort zone which they can deal with rather than dealing with the real world. It's a means of escape from the world they would rather not live in and have no control over. I suppose it's a self defense mechanism which helps them cope. It's not helping things any, but I suppose for them, living in denial is easier than seeing things as they actually are. You should ponder those words you quoted, if you care at all about what is real and what isn't.
Where's the blood? So only trolls disagree? You disagree with me. So what does that make you? I've seen pics with blood. Which pic are you talking about? ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=154579&Disp=55#C55
It went down like this, PSUSA2.
Looking at the pic a post or 2 above it, you ask "where is the blood"? I dont know WTF all that text is trying to show. But he calls it "irrefutable evidence of photoshop...". Therefore, since he asserted it on the internet, it must be true. No one makes shit up on the internet, after all. But it does appear he has a red tourniquet on his leg above the knee. It doesn't APPEAR to be very tight. Probably because it doesn't need to be tight, just tight enough to stop blood flow. I also posted somewhere here that in a traumatic amputation, vessels constrict and arteries retract away from the wound. IOW just because he isn't bleeding like an open fire hydrant doesn't mean it's all fake. Somewhere here IIRC there is both a MD and a surgeon. I don't remember who they are. Perhaps they already addressed this. Or maybe they see any involvement in this topic as a no-win situation and are sitting this one out. ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by Some make cartoonish collages out of "evidence", some like Powell use real cartoons as evidence. Funny how people end up dying as a result of cartoons. I guess it's evidence to them if it proves what they want it to prove. ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by One of the things that Carlos, the Red Cross volunteer, did was immediately put a makeshift tourniquet on each of Bauman's legs. I have no doubt that Bauman was bleeding heavily at first - but that was around the corner from the cameras. By the time the tourniquets were in place, and he was put on a wheelchair and pushed around the corner toward an ambulance, he had bled profusely and his blood volume and blood pressure had both diminished (as indicated by his very greyish complexion) so he was not continuing to spurt blood like a Monty Python character.
No it wasn't. It's on camera. Why is there no blood? If someone had shrapnel blow their legs off, wouldn't there be some blood? Why is there no blood on the black woman or the hooded guy? Wouldn't some of the blood got on them? Of course it would. That is effin' moronic. There wouldn't have been any survivors if that were true. Paul Craig Roberts
If that is a real picture of the scene, then you have to know that the guy didn't just have his legs blown off, he has his leg right up on the hooded guy's jacket and the hooded guy still has no blood on him there! This is as fake as it gets!
God is always good!
When you get cut you bleed right? This guy had both legs missing, supposedly by a bomb just seconds ago, where is the blood? Is this guy a zombie? They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: wudidiz (#59)
That's all he's got.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#62. To: FormerLurker (#60)
#63. To: all (#61)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#64. To: All (#63)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#65. To: wudidiz (#63)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#66. To: wudidiz (#45)
You understand you are only agreeing with known forum trolls now?
niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
#67. To: PSUSA2 (#66)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#68. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *No Planers* (#67)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#69. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#68)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#70. To: PSUSA2, 4 (#66)
#71. To: wudidiz (#67)
niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
#73. To: PSUSA2 (#71)
Looking at the pic a post or 2 above it, you ask "where is the blood"?
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#74. To: PSUSA2 (#71)
#75. To: Shoonra (#74)
I have no doubt that Bauman was bleeding heavily at first - but that was around the corner from the cameras.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#76. To: wudidiz (#26)
I read someone saying the wound was cauterized because the heat from the blast was 3000 F and the shrapnel travels at 60,000 mph.
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#77. To: wudidiz (#75)
#78. To: RickyJ, turtle (#9)
I am completely and utterly disgusted by you necrophiliac ghouls who try to score your conspiracist crackpot points on a man who lost his legs.
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#79. To: RickyJ (#77)
It is fake ricky. They do war by deception. AND NONE OF YALL ARE FORGETTING ABOUT THE RICIN RIGHT!?!?! The ricin sent in the mail to a senator and a president and a judge.... Just like the anthrax...
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#80. To: FormerLurker (#64)
The following article isn't Boston. It's about Sandy Hook. In my opinion, Laurie Roth asks some damn good questions. It doesn't pass the smell test and was, imo, a staged event. I think the same about Boston. I'm sure that the brothers are CIA operatives/patsies. That's enough for me to be dubious about the whole thing including the wheelchair man who, imo, would have looked a hell of a lot bloodier and in far worse condition after having both legs blown off and a femoral artery severed. If that makes me nuts for being suspicious, then so be it.
A man will never speak the truth if his salary depends on perpetuating a lie. -Upton Sinclair
#81. To: Critter (#78)
exactly. he would have been in shock and probably bled out in minutes. They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
A man will never speak the truth if his salary depends on perpetuating a lie. -Upton Sinclair
#82. To: christine, Critter (#81)
I have had a fair amount of training in Advanced First Aid (Red Cross Advanced Card - which I qualified for twice and other training). The criticism about the blood is absolutely legitimate. It is emphasized over, and over, and over again that arterial bleeding must be stopped or your victim will be dead in a matter of minutes. An injury of that type would have severed the femoral artery in the leg. Unstaunched you are dead in less than 2 minutes and there would be massive amounts of blood spread around the site of the victim with the blown off legs. There was not only no blood but the victim was conscious. It is highly unlikely that the victim would still be conscious after massive blood loss. Even if the bleeding was sealed off with a tourniquet withing 30 seconds the blood loss should have been enough to render the victim comatose and in deep shock. The victim in the chair appears to be reasonably alert. Adrenalin can do strange things but it cannot replace lost blood.
#83. To: Shoonra (#74)
Agreed. It makes sense to me. But I'm not a trauma surgeon or a corpsman. I wish I knew one. he had bled profusely and his blood volume and blood pressure had both diminished (as indicated by his very greyish complexion) so he was not continuing to spurt blood like a Monty Python character.
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#84. To: christine (#80)
Wow - link of the day award winner. Thanks for Dr.Roth's article!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#85. To: Critter (#78)
Carlos's account of things is that he was only a few yards from Bauman when the bomb blew up right in front of Bauman's feet. Bauman was so disoriented he didn't realize that he had lost both his legs. Carlos IMMEDIATELY grabbed him, put on tourniquets and then grabbed an empty wheelchair that some other emergency person was pushing someplace, plopped Bauman in the wheelchair and then used it to transport Bauman to an ambulance. In the few minutes following the explosion there were no ambulances, and certainly no evac helicopters, right at the explosion site. Carlos had to push Bauman around the corner to find an ambulance. They don't take someone away in a wheelchair who just had his legs blown off. They rush him into a helicopter (or an ambulance at least) on a stretcher, with IV tubes and bottles hanging all over him, replacing lost blood etc.
#86. To: Shoonra (#85)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#87. To: christine (#80)
Thing is christine, what's easier to pull off, staging a REAL event, or staging a FAKE one? Why bother with involving scores of "actors" to fake being injured when it's so much easier to REALLY hurt uninvolved people? There was no control over who would be in the area of the blast at any one point in time. And what about the dead people and those in the hospital with real injuries? That's enough for me to be dubious about the whole thing including the wheelchair man who, imo, would have looked a hell of a lot bloodier and in far worse condition after having both legs blown off and a femoral artery severed. If that makes me nuts for being suspicious, then so be it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#88. To: FormerLurker (#87)
i'm not saying that there are no real victims. of course there are, but, again, if you believe it was a staged event, which i do, then that could also include the use of actors. i don't know, but i'm not going to close my mind to any possibility. here: The criticism about the blood is absolutely legitimate. It is emphasized over, and over, and over again that arterial bleeding must be stopped or your victim will be dead in a matter of minutes. An injury of that type would have severed the femoral artery in the leg. Unstaunched you are dead in less than 2 minutes and there would be massive amounts of blood spread around the site of the victim with the blown off legs. There was not only no blood but the victim was conscious. It is highly unlikely that the victim would still be conscious after massive blood loss. Even if the bleeding was sealed off with a tourniquet withing 30 seconds the blood loss should have been enough to render the victim comatose and in deep shock. The victim in the chair appears to be reasonably alert. Adrenalin can do strange things but it cannot replace lost blood. --OI
#89. To: christine (#88)
I know how quickly two bleeding ulcers put me down...I was unconscious before they got me into the emergency OR.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#90. To: Lod, All (#89)
First off, stop saying people were getting spinal assessments and strapped into "spine board stretchers". There isn't a single backboard in any of these pictures, not one. That alone should start tipping people off that you really don't know what you're talking about. And stop using the apparent reactions and facial expressions of the people in the picture, and the EMS personnel ignoring the double leg amputee and going for the people around him, as proof. For starters, these are pictures, you can't exactly gauge people's behavior from a few still photos. After a huge concussive blast goes off right next to you, you're gonna be disoriented and confused, and you're gonna be distracted from your injuries. I do strongly agree that EMS should have treated the double amputee first, and he should be the first person we see on a stretcher, but just because the EMT's and paramedics didn't follow protocol isn't proof that it's all fake. And stop trying to tell people you're gonna bleed out in seconds and die from below the knee amputations. If you sever your femoral artery while it's still the femoral artery, you have a huge risk of bleeding out, but they quickly branch into about 4 different main branches in each leg by the time they get to the knee, and the vast majority of blood from the femoral arteries goes to the quads and then right back up through the femoral veins. If it was a clean cut at the knee, you would still have at least a minute, probably a few minutes, before you bleed out, and that's if you do nothing to stop the bleeding. Small arteries have enough musculature to reflexively contract and provide some resistance to lower the blood flow to them to reduce bleeding out if they're badly damaged. The guy had plenty of time and ability to have direct manual pressure applied before the tourniquet can be tied. It's good to ask questions, and it's good to not believe everything the media tells you. And there's a lot of questions about the involvement of the FBI, so I like seeing people actually really pushing for answers to pressing questions. But you're not doing any of that, you're taking a few bigfoot-esque photos, claiming there are things happening in them that nobody can see, and then using bullshit pseudoscience to prove that they had some extremely elaborate set up to make fake victim actors. It's nutfucks like you that take the conspiracies too far that make the rest of the sane people that acknowledge the government and media lie to us look like we're all a bunch of loonies. Stop spreading bullshit, don't take a few pics and claim they're evidence of an elaborate set-up when they clearly aren't. All it does is hamper the efforts to actually find out the truth and get questions answered. And before you take the insecure little bitch route again and tell everyone my IP address and name and then google maps where I am and some local landmarks, my name is Jake Frier, I'm a former EMT and current medical student in Syracuse. Why don't you try to keep the arguments on your shitty little blog professional and on-topic, and don't resort to exposing people's names and locations you little freak. here's a good comment (i am being openminded) to this article What questions are you trying to get answered Ben? I read through this, I'm pretty sure I only saw one question, and you answered it yourself shortly after. It doesn't look like you're asking questions, just posting a few pictures where it's really hard to tell what's going on, and trying to use them as proof that they were actors and fake prosthetic amputee legs, while throwing very, very, very simplified and pretty much incorrect medical info in there to try to prove your point.
#91. To: wudidiz (#0)
The Tsarnaev brothers were controlled by the FBI. This would explain why they did nothing after the Russian authorities called them to say that they were suspicious of the brothers when they visited Russia. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#92. To: christine (#88)
The Tsarnaev brothers were controlled by the FBI. This explains an awful lot. ;) if you believe it was a staged event,
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#93. To: christine (#90)
Good catch - thanks. ffop
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#94. To: christine (#90)
It was indeed fake blood. Blood darkens after it coagulates. ;) actor-fake-blood-staged/
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#95. To: All (#85) (Edited)
If Jeff Bauman was faking losing both legs, he's doing a very convincing job of it: There are only about 5 quarts of blood in a grown man. Since Bauman is still alive, figure he didn't lose more than 2 quarts. In the photos he's very greyish, so he certainly lost a significant amount. I daresay that someone with REAL experience in such injuries, such as a combat medic, can tell you about uncanny survivals of explosions and the very odd effects possible in explosion injuries.
#96. To: FormerLurker (#46)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#97. To: GreyLmist, Original_Intent, christine, titorite, All, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#96)
Virginia Tech shooting-April 16th 2007 -Israeli remembrance day.........Columbine April 20th 1999-Israeli remembrance & Independence day April 20/21 1999.......Oklahoma bombing April 19th 1995 Israeli Independence day.....Waco seige April 19th 1993 Israeli Independence day... Yom HaAtzmaut (Israel's Independence Day) 2013 began in the evening of The 2013 Boston Marathon took place in Boston, Massachusetts on Monday April 15, 2013. It was the 117th edition of the mass-participation marathon.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#98. To: wudidiz (#97)
april 19 lexington and concord
#99. To: Itistoolate (#98) (Edited)
img441.imageshack.us/img441/8184/bgj.png Same cap, same glasses. One was moments after the bomb watching the aftermath and the other photo was much later in the day... with a new jacket
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