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Title: Boston Marathon: Federal Horror Movie By Ron Avery
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Published: Apr 26, 2013
Author: my friend, Ron Avery
Post Date: 2013-04-26 00:59:02 by christine
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Views: 13865
Comments: 320

You no longer have to go to stuffy dark theaters to watch a new movie complete with special effects like explosions and injured people with limbs blown off with real live cops, FBI, CIA, SWAT, Blackwater, Craft, Navy Seals, Special Ops, and a cast of thousands. You might even get a bit part in it yourself if you’re there when the Director yells “action!”

Did you see the guy that had both his legs blown off below the knee? Talk about gory! That was even sicker than the soldier that had his arm severed off and looks around for it and picks it up and walks on the beech with it in his other hand in Saving Private Ryan. Well that was a real amputee that was in that movie and can be hired from amputeesinaction.co.uk.

Do you think you could have both of your legs blown off below the knee and 10 to 12 inches of your leg bone exposed and ligaments, muscle and flesh hanging out all around it with no blood dripping from it and be sitting up and a wheel chair looking around at the sites while being rolled down the street? Do you think you could quietly lie on your side with enough strength to hold your head off the pavement while others with far less sever injuries are attended to? The pain alone from this injury would render the victim unconscious. This is what happens when you let amateurs run the movie set. Steven Spielberg would not have saved these scenes and would have re-shot them until they were plausible and convincing.

Then you have the FBI come on the scene and announce that they need our help by sending in our pictures and movies to see if there are any clues to this “who done it.” Then only hours later they come back and tell us they have figured it out and not to look at any other pictures. The FBI directs everyone to go to FBI.gov to see two pictures of two guys with backpacks and to look for them only. The pictures that are released on the internet at youtube show many men wearing kaki pants and dark coats with black backpacks but these turn out to be private and government special ops guys all over the place. Turns out that the shredded backpack the “bomb” was alleged to be in was not the same color nor had the same markings that are shown on the two suspects but resemble the backpack on one of the special ops guys.

By now you are locked into this movie and you can’t wait to see the end. The plot becomes much deeper when the whole city of Boston is locked down and paramilitary police, SWAT, Homeland Security with armored vehicles and M-16s invade private homes without warrant and search whole neighborhoods looking for two brothers. And after what we are told was a wild chase scene complete with explosives and gun fire, one of the suspects is apprehended and forced to take off all his closes. They at least fuzz out his genitals for the young in the audience. The next scene shows the FBI leading him away naked in hand cuffs and putting him in a car. He looks in fine health and no one can deny it because you see it on screen. And just when you think it is about over. . . BAM! We learn the first suspect has been killed and when they show the body it is horrible. His whole face is one large bruise all the way down and extending over his right shoulder. He has a large 8 inch severe laceration in his left rib cage that is open about two inches and clearly cut through all outer layers of tissue to the lung itself. He had two other large gashes on the same side. This man was obviously beaten and tortured beyond comprehension while in protective custody!

Hey wait a minute! Anybody that is still watching this show should be awake by now if they have any brain waves at all. Law enforcement can’t harm and they damn sure can’t kill disarmed, handcuffed, naked suspects and they can’t allow other people to kill them or even touch them. Hey, we aren’t in Kansas anymore Buddy! There’s some real bad tyranny going down here in OZ.

So why is the government not after the FBI or police who killed the suspect while in custody? Not one word about this on Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Piers Morgan, Anderson Cooper or any of the other lame-stream tongue slingers. When something like this happens, everyone in the unit that arrested the suspect who was killed in custody should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder and stand trial for capital punishment. And those of the accused who aid in any prosecution evidence leading to the main actors should be given a pardon.

This means our so-called federal government and most state governments are beyond repair and salvation to let this kind of B-grade Federal Hollywood stunt at the Boston Marathon lead to the declaration of Martial Law over the whole city where troops go house to house pulling out residents and searching with out a warrant and causing bodily harm to both suspects while in protective custody and torturing one of them to death. Neither suspect was injured at the time of the arrest. Outrageous! Every citizen of Boston should be in the street with their guns demanding answers to this! In fact everyone in this nation should be in the street with their guns asking for answers!

Ron Avery is a semi-retired architect, author and speaker on topics regarding Christian theology and the principles of property that regulate every aspect of lawful government.

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#23. To: christine (#0)

Did you see the guy that had both his legs blown off below the knee? Talk about gory! That was even sicker than the soldier that had his arm severed off and looks around for it and picks it up and walks on the beech with it in his other hand in Saving Private Ryan. Well that was a real amputee that was in that movie and can be hired from amputeesinaction.co.uk.

Do you think you could have both of your legs blown off below the knee and 10 to 12 inches of your leg bone exposed and ligaments, muscle and flesh hanging out all around it with no blood dripping from it and be sitting up and a wheel chair looking around at the sites while being rolled down the street? Do you think you could quietly lie on your side with enough strength to hold your head off the pavement while others with far less sever injuries are attended to? The pain alone from this injury would render the victim unconscious. This is what happens when you let amateurs run the movie set. Steven Spielberg would not have saved these scenes and would have re-shot them until they were plausible and convincing.

So christine, when are you going to tell everyone that you verified that Jeff Bauman is a real person?

When is anyone else going to take the time to find out that they've all been disparaging a guy who's just had his legs blown off FOR REAL?

How many people here can honestly say they've been in a combat zone and have seen people with their legs blown off, and know exactly how that would look and how a person would react?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-09   22:50:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: FormerLurker, Boonie Rat (#23)

So, FL, I just had lunch with Boonie Rat whose sister-in-law is a registered nurse and in the Army. She did a tour in Iraq and was assigned to the trauma unit where, obviously, she's seen and tended to men who sustained similar injuries. She saw the photos of Jeff Bauman and concluded that with those critical injuries, he would have bled out within two minutes (unless the legs were cauterized from the heat of the explosion which I believe that even you'll agree that that is highly improbable). Further, in her opinion, if he didn't bleed out on the ground, he would have certainly bled out when they sat him up in the wheelchair . So do with that information what you will.

and, yes, I did call the NH Costco and verify that Jeff Bauman is an employee there.

christine  posted on  2013-05-10   17:31:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: christine (#57)

yes, I did call the NH Costco and verify that Jeff Bauman is an employee there

So what are you implying then, that he is some secret agent sort of guy who infiltrated Costco pretending he had legs but didn't, and that his entire family are "fake people"?

And I guess the doctors and nurses who attended to his injuries are fake people too, as well as the EMTs who brought him in?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-17   15:35:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: FormerLurker (#72)

So what are you implying then, that he is some secret agent sort of guy who infiltrated Costco pretending he had legs but didn't, and that his entire family are "fake people"?

And I guess the doctors and nurses who attended to his injuries are fake people too, as well as the EMTs who brought him in?

I don't see her as implying anything there other than confirming that COSTCO admits that he is an employee of theirs. All I am going on is the picture and video evidence of that day combined with what EMTs and nurses have stated about it after viewing them, which is that it is highly unlikely that, if those pictures are real and the video is also real, Jeff lost his legs at the Boston Marathon bombings. That does not mean that he didn't recently lose his legs though, he could have had to have them amputated because of many different reasons, including a recent accident. I do know the guy is raking in the dough right now and many of the other survivors are too. If they were faking it they have a strong motive to keep quiet about it.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-17   18:17:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: RickyJ (#99)

Another thing. WHY would regular people such as those injured and/or killed in the bombing volunteer to "fake it"?

How and why would the police, EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other such personnel volunteer to lie to the world and make believe something happened which didn't?

Wouldn't OTHER police, hospital staff, etc., notice if something like that were true, or would ALL of those people in the City of Boston need to be involved in order to pull it off?

As in 9/11, for factions within the highest levels of government to have had a classified and compartmentalized operation which could successfully pull off the 9/11 attacks and GET AWAY WITH IT, they had to keep the number of people involved to an absolute minimum.

It could have easily been done with about 50 or so people within various levels of government, along with some help from foreign intelligence agencies such as the Mossad and ISI.

However, if one were to believe the no-planers, or in this case the no-bombers, then a whole LOT of people would not only have to know but they would also need to be active participants.

How likely do you think THAT is?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-17   18:36:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: FormerLurker (#102) (Edited)

Another thing. WHY would regular people such as those injured and/or killed in the bombing volunteer to "fake it"?

How and why would the police, EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other such personnel volunteer to lie to the world and make believe something happened which didn't?

Money is my guess, and lots of it. Also knowing that if you do speak up and talk you have a very high chance of winding up dead with a suicide note next to your body. And I don't think many people would have to be in on it to pull this off. Some EMTs, some nurses, and some doctors, and a few of his friends and family. If he always wore long pants at work and was able to walk without a limp with his artificial legs it is possible no one at work even knew he was an amputee.

In addition to this they honestly don't care how many people find out the truth to some degree because they control the flow of information to the masses just like they did on 9/11, so they know they can get away with literal murder in broad daylight recorded on video.

I believe the PTB are not only evil, but they are having fun laughing at just how stupid and gullible most people are by purposefully leaving clues of what they are doing around. You saw George W. Bush at the press conference dinner laughing about not finding the WMD in Iraq. He was pretending to look under the podium for them, oops not there either, and the press corps had a great laugh. The WMD was the excuse for going into Iraq peddled to the public, now not only didn't they find them they openly laugh about it! They like having a good laugh at the stupidity of the average person.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-17   19:07:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: RickyJ (#109)

If he always wore long pants at work and was able to walk without a limp with his artificial legs it is possible no one at work even knew he was an amputee.

holy shit

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-17   19:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: PSUSA2 (#111) (Edited)

You would be surprised how many people are amputees that you don't know about out there. Artificial limb technology has advanced to the point where a guy with both legs off even above the knee was able to run in a regular Olympic event, not the handicapped one, the one with the best runners in the world who have both of their real legs. He would have beat me and I reckon you as well very easily.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-17   19:25:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: RickyJ (#115) (Edited)

He was an athlete! not some Joe Sixpack working at Costco!

This grasping at straws is getting to be surreal!

Have the PTB suddenly become squeamish about blood? Will they not murder innocent people to get what they want? Edit to add: Assuming(!) that the PTB are even responsible for this one.

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-17   19:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: PSUSA2 (#116)

Have the PTB suddenly become squeamish about blood? Will they not murder innocent people to get what they want?

Fake blood is cheaper.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-17   19:42:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: wudidiz (#121)

Fake blood is cheaper.

Not if they have to pay off police, EMTs, actors, hospital staff, families, etc.

It's much easier to blow up a pressure cooker with pyrotechnic powder from fireworks using a person who's been led to his act of terror by those whose job it is do to so.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-17   19:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: FormerLurker (#123)

Not if they have to pay off police, EMTs, actors, hospital staff, families, etc.

They don't have to pay them all off and killing snitches is cheaper anyway.

It's much easier to blow up a pressure cooker with pyrotechnic powder from fireworks using a person who's been led to his act of terror by those whose job it is do to so.

Not if your victim is also your star witness.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-17   19:50:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: wudidiz (#124)

Not if your victim is also your star witness.

They didn't need Bauman to identify those guys, they simply wanted his confirmation to speed things up. They could have and would have found them on video without him.

And IF as you claim the entire attack on the WTC towers was faked in real time with some super duper high tech CGI, don't you think they could fake a video of the alleged bombers planting the bombs?

Hell, if they faked the injuries and deaths, faking someone planting a bomb would be child's play.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-17   19:54:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FormerLurker (#127)

Not if your victim is also your star witness.

They didn't need Bauman to identify those guys, they simply wanted his confirmation to speed things up. They could have and would have found them on video without him.

Whatever.

They didn't. They used Bauman.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-17   23:41:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: wudidiz (#136)

Whatever.

They didn't. They used Bauman.

Uh huh, and I'm supposed to believe it just because YOU say so with no proof of anything. You can't even be honest and say nobody has been assassinated over it after you claimed over a thousand nurses and doctors have been assassinated and almost 800 Boston police have been also assassinated over it.

WTF do you think I am, Mr. Gullible or something?

You believe Hollywood produced live fake video on 9/11, yet you think it's improbable that they could fake a video of the alleged bombers planting the bombs.

I guess for YOUR story to be true, they don't have the technology to do even a simple video of someone planting a bomb, thus they had to hire actors, payoff hundreds of cops, EMTs, bystanders, news crews, hospital staff, just to take a few bad snapshots of a guy with his legs blown off who would make the identification of the suspects.

Uh huh.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-17   23:53:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FormerLurker (#137) (Edited)

In former lurkers world ,the only false flags that exist are the ones Former Lurker approves of!

I guess Former Lurker Buys the Djoker story.... And so should we all in his mind.. it was the teen ager story.

With a pressure cooker.

and the craft was never there.

LOL

titorite  posted on  2013-05-18   3:28:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: titorite, Bill D Berger (#138)

In former lurkers world ,the only false flags that exist are the ones Former Lurker approves of!

As always you launch into a personal attack and ignore any facts or logic that I've posted. It's like a religion for you, and anyone who disagrees is a heretic.

Of course you'll never address the valid facts and logic I've posted, you resort to accusations, drama, and bullshit to make your case.

Now who at LP acts like that I wonder.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-18   16:09:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Bill D Berger, titorite, FormerLurker, christine (#149)

In former lurkers world ,the only false flags that exist are the ones Former Lurker approves of!

True story.

Of course you'll never address the valid facts and logic I've posted, you resort to accusations, drama, and bullshit to make your case.

This is what FL is doing and as he's doing it he's accusing others of doing so.

Like the guy that cries as he's hitting you.

Very odd behaviour.

Arguably clever but very manipulative.

But don't take my word for it.

Notice that all he is doing is exactly what he is accusing titorite of.

The database doesn't lie, FL.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-18   16:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: wudidiz, titorite (#152)

Of course you'll never address the valid facts and logic I've posted, you resort to accusations, drama, and bullshit to make your case.

True story.

Uh huh. I don't believe every scatter brained story someone decides to post on the Internet just because people like you say it's true.

So how many people have been assassinated over this wudidiz, 2000 so far? Of course you have no proof ANYONE has been assassinated, you simply need to SAY so, and it BECOMES true, right?

This is what FL is doing and as he's doing it he's accusing others of doing so.

Like the guy that cries as he's hitting you.

Really original words wud. Cut and paste my own then call them yours, how honest of you.

Again, you rely on ad hominem attacks to "make your case", you can NOT argue anything using facts or logic, so instead you hurl insults and accusations, just as always.

The database doesn't lie, FL.

No it doesn't titorite/wudidiz, and anyone who cares to look can see what I am talking about. They'll see the high drama, the accusations, the slurs, the lies, and more drama, coming from the TWO OF YOU.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-18   16:49:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#154)

Really original words wud. Cut and paste my own then call them yours, how honest of you.

Again, you rely on ad hominem attacks to "make your case", you can NOT argue anything using facts or logic, so instead you hurl insults and accusations, just as always.

The database doesn't lie, FL.

No it doesn't titorite/wudidiz, and anyone who cares to look can see what I am talking about. They'll see the high drama, the accusations, the slurs, the lies, and more drama, coming from the TWO OF YOU.

Like the guy that cries as he's hitting you.

Very odd behaviour.

Arguably clever but very manipulative.

But don't take my word for it.

Notice that all he is doing is exactly what he is accusing titorite of.

The database doesn't lie, FL.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-18   17:06:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: wudidiz, christine, PSUSA2, RickyJ, Original_Intent, Katniss, All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#168)

I've already responded to that post once, now you're going to spam the thread and harrass me with the same exact post, cut and pasted into a new one?

It's bad enough you blatently lied earlier on this thread, and when challenged on it simply cried to christine that "you're not good with numbers" ignoring the fact that you lied and said almost a thousand Boston police have been assassinated over this event, and almost 2000 doctors and nurses have been assassinated over it as well.

Are you on some serious drugs, or are you just a complete total whackjob?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-18   17:20:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: FormerLurker (#175)

IF anyone is going to get banned it is you Former Lurker.

So tone it down.

The Former Lurker Account has been active here for a number of years. You don't want to be the dude that gets the account banned.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-18   17:23:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: titorite (#177)

The Former Lurker Account has been active here for a number of years. You don't want to be the dude that gets the account banned.

Fuck you, asshole.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-05-19   1:17:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Fred Mertz (#209)

The Former Lurker Account has been active here for a number of years. You don't want to be the dude that gets the account banned.

Fuck you, asshole.

???

Really?

titorite  posted on  2013-05-19   1:19:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Christine, wudidiz, GreyLmist, Lod, Original_Intent, Itisalreadytoolate, OKSubmariner, God and heaven and everyone! (#210) (Edited)

I am just pointing this out ... but in all the time Former Lurker has been here He has never spoken to Fred Mertz.... Nor has Fred Mertz ever addressed Former Lurker.

I was shocked when I did the search... I figured as long as lurker has been a member here that he would addressed Fred at least one time... or vice a versa.

But yeah just a little strangeness there. Thought i'd point it out.

It makes the above few posts even stranger to me.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-19   1:38:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: titorite (#211)

If you are going just by the search function on the website then it might not be that accurate. I notice many times it doesn't work too well.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-19   1:49:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: RickyJ (#213)

If you are going just by the search function on the website then it might not be that accurate. I notice many times it doesn't work too well.

I think it works just fine.

Fred Mertz does not talk to Former Lurker.

Former Lurker Does not talk to Fred Mertz.

One may of mentioned another in a post in passing but as far as direct contact goes on this forum? ZERO

One can search down the singular individual names too... nothing. Not a thing.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-19   1:59:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: titorite (#214)

Fred Mertz might have him on bozo. I just found out that the real life Fred and Ethel Mertz from the "I Love Lucy" show hated each other in real life. When Vance (Ethel) learned that Frawley (Fred) had died, she had a toast to celebrate.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-19   2:10:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: RickyJ (#215)

I thought the same thing, but one of them would of had the other on bozo for their entire membership here... We are talking over a decade!

And I took you at your word and searched online.

This extends to all the forums.... lp, LF, FR....

The two stars never talk to each other on any forum in over a decade worth of talking.

Co-workers?

titorite  posted on  2013-05-19   2:13:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: titorite (#216)

This extends to all the forums.... lp, LF, FR....

The two stars never talk to each other on any forum in over a decade worth of talking.

LF is still up? I thought it was taken down?

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-19   2:18:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#218. To: RickyJ (#217)

I do not think LF being up or down has anything on this Mertz Lurker connection.

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