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Title: Need examples of 'false-flag terror' for a 13 year old new to the topic
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Published: Apr 28, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-04-28 14:54:11 by Artisan
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WHat would you suggest as the best examples or resources (videos, links, etc whatever) to explain general govt crruption and false flag terror to a 13 year old kid.?
I am gonna include
Pearl Harbor JFK gulf of tonkin OKC Waco 911 7/7/7?
govt sterilizing people govt poisoning people govt murdering people (waco. kent state, ....

what else??

it all started with discussion of boston event but then a fundamental lack of understanding is present in both the kid and his parents, so i want to do it right. a thorough treatise, if you will. Any suggestions /topics are welcomed Thanks!
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#1. To: Artisan (#0)
here's an excellent site -

www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-04-28 14:59:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Artisan (#0)
Well, of course, there is AJ's TerrorStorm

christine posted on 2013-04-28 15:09:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Artisan (#0)
govt sterilizing people govt poisoning people govt murdering people
what else??

The mental health care system, the medical establishment and big pharma do all of the above.
Sterilize, poison, and murder.
Every 13 year old kid should be made aware of that fact.

sizzlerguy posted on 2013-04-28 15:14:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Artisan (#0)
gulf of tonkin

That's a good one.
People know when they're being shot at.
Then there are the CIA experiments on citizens. That's documented.
WTC 7. SOmethin fishy about that.
I wouldn't overload them with info, though. I'd give them enough to get started, if they want to get started.
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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by ~~niggers~~ blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
PSUSA2 posted on 2013-04-28 15:22:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: All (#4)
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/199...domofinformation.politics
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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by ~~niggers~~ blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
PSUSA2 posted on 2013-04-28 15:24:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: christine (#2)
Yep - TerrorStorm should do it.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-04-28 15:26:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Artisan (#0)
Lavon Affair
Reichstag fire
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Dakmar posted on 2013-04-28 15:28:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: christine, lod, sizzlerguy, titorite (#2)
Thanks. its hard to know where to start. They were very upset about the boston thing, so I sent them some videos the other day from Judge andrew napolitano and a CIA whistleblower and some others explaining how the fbi/feds have done this admittedly countless times. but then they wanted to know "why do i believe this?"

wait. its a FOX News tv report from a judge and carreer CIA analyst, explaining how its admittedly done, its not "something i believe,", like the tooth fairy.

it's very difficult to see peoples stance from the perspective of someone who is totally clueless, when you have been 'awake' for so long. I need to be more patient.

but, instead of calling them idiots, (which is tempting), i have to be patient and i like to do things right and thorough. so i got the idea to really do a comprehensive report for a tenniebopper. i would hope that its already been done by someone else, because it is a daunting project. but a necessary one.

They are worth it and they need to know and really understand these things. 'sigh'.

for me, i see it and say "yep its another one. here they go again'. I didnt even look at the hokey photos and vids, fake legs, ketchup for blood, fake parents at sandyhook, etc. none of it. not necessary. but for someone new? where to begin!!
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-04-28 15:33:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Artisan (#0)
There is no better example than WTC7 being reported collapsed over 20 minutes before it collapsed. Even a 13 year old should be able understand buildings just do not collapse like that due to a few small fires and relatively light asymmetrical damage from falling debris from the collapse of the WTC towers. WTC7's collapse is the most significant smoking gun of 9/11.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-04-28 15:36:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: PSUSA2 (#4)
thanks. they have seen and liked jesse ventura's conspiracy tv show which, believe it or not, does a lot of good to break through the heavy conditioning of the average tv watcher. a small start is better than nothing. so they understand SOME things, such as fishy things about 911, yet then i assume they got it in general, but alas, they actually do not get it at all.
its sort of like last year some family members of mine who know about 911 , and believe what i say, yet they were planning on voting for romney. see i thought they got it, but alas, they didnt get it at all.
so, i explained to them about romney, and to their credit, they then did not vote for anyone.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-04-28 15:38:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: RickyJ (#9)
Thanks. The other day after a brief description, they called and asked me "what would the government gain by killing an 8 year old boy?"

where to even begin??
as if a govt that murders people by the quadrillions would give a $#@% about anyone!?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-04-28 15:40:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)
Need examples of 'false-flag terror' for a 13 year old

if i were you, i'd start with asking myself a couple questions...
mostly, this one: "do i believe there's some reason the government needs a police state, or are they doing these false flags just out of meanness and greed and lust for power?"

lead.and.lag posted on 2013-04-28 15:44:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Artisan (#11)
The other day after a brief description, they called and asked me "what would the government gain by killing an 8 year old boy?"

It is always important to see who gains the most from any crime. It is good they are asking about gain here. The "government" is a term that implies that the whole government or police force is in on it, that is not the case though, and it need not be for a false flag terror event to take place. Only certain people in certain positions need to know their part in it, and nothing else. These people later might find out they were duped, and be tempted to talk, but then realize they would be targeted as well if they did.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-04-28 15:50:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Artisan (#11) (Edited)
then i'd ask myself, "why do these guys need a global police state, disguised as 'benevolent global hegemony'? "
is there something happening globally that needs to be dealt with by a global police state run by these people?
...or is it all nothing but more greed, meanness and lust for power on a global scale?
...are there racial and religious factors? ...for instance, are there people who believe their race is the only race intelligent enough to deal with these problems?
...or, are there people who believe that they're entitled to run the world because their god told them they were?

lead.and.lag posted on 2013-04-28 15:53:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Artisan (#11)
until you, yourself, figure out the answers to those questions, you're not gonna have much chance of explaining everything to your thirteen year old.

lead.and.lag posted on 2013-04-28 15:56:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Artisan (#0)
You could start by having them read Cathy O'Brien's book "Trans:Formation of America" because it really does expose how the corruption works and where it stems from and how children are used as slaves to help bring about corruption between countries. And its very real!

purplerose posted on 2013-04-28 15:59:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Artisan, Lod, christine (#8)
I would mot forget 911.
Also JFK assassination. It took us into the Vietnam war so we could lose it. They wanted American kids hooked on drugs. Vietnam was America's First Opium war. Afghanistan was the second.
We were maneuvered into the Korean war and the Vietnam war so we could lose for this reason: Communism is Jewish. And anyone who is anti-Communist is really anti-Semitic and deserves to die.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Horse posted on 2013-04-28 16:03:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Artisan (#11)
maybe you could go with a more nuts-and-bolts approach...
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for instance, you could ask your thirteen year old, "why did the PNAC people -- people like cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, perle, jeb bush-- say they needed a new pearl harbor?"
"why was exxon allied with the people who published their need for a new pearl harbor?"
"why was netanyahu so pleased with 9/11?"

lead.and.lag posted on 2013-04-28 16:10:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Artisan (#8)
"..... its hard to know where to start."

Start with the classic examples:

Gleiwitz incident

The Gleiwitz incident in 1939 involved Reinhard Heydrich fabricating evidence of a Polish attack against Germany to mobilize German public opinion for war, to establish casus belli, and to justify the war with Poland. This, along with other false flag operations in Operation Himmler, would be used to mobilize support from the German population for the start of World War II in Europe. [citation needed]

Winter War

In 1939 the Red Army shelled Mainila, a Russian town near the Finnish border. Soviet authorities blamed Finland for the attack and used the incident as a pretext to start the Winter War four days later.[citation needed]

Kassa attack

The Kassa attack in 1941 involved the city of Kassa, today Košice (Slovakia), which was then part of Hungary, being bombed by three unidentified planes of apparently Soviet origin. This attack became the pretext for the government of Hungary to declare war on the Soviet Union.[citation needed]

Operation Ajax

The replacement of Iran's Anglo-Persian Oil Company with five American oil companies and the 1953 Iranian coup d'état was the consequence of the U.S. and British-orchestrated false flag operation, Operation Ajax. Operation Ajax used political intrigue, propaganda, and agreements with Qashqai tribal leaders to depose the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mohammed Mosaddeq. Information regarding the CIA-sponsored coup d'etat has been largely declassified and is available in the CIA archives.[14]

All the above and more from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag#Mukden_incident

Big Meanie posted on 2013-04-28 16:41:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)
{What he said: Finland}

Shoonra posted on 2013-04-28 16:56:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: Big Meanie (#19) (Edited)
Gleiwitz incident
The Gleiwitz incident in 1939 involved Reinhard Heydrich fabricating evidence of a Polish attack against Germany to mobilize German public opinion for war, to establish casus belli, and to justify the war with Poland. This, along with other false flag operations in Operation Himmler, would be used to mobilize support from the German population for the start of World War II in Europe. [citation needed]

Not a good idea, there is little evidence such an event ever took place.
THE MYTH OF THE FAKE GERMAN ATTACK ON THE GLEIWITZ RADIO STATION

The "Gleiwitz radio station" was NEVER MENTIONED AT ANY TIME IN 1939. The claim, therefore, is that for six years, nobody knew what the whole war was about, until 1945, when somebody named "Alfred Naujocks" signed an "affidavit" at Nuremberg, and disappeared forever! He never appeared as a witness for cross-examination. It is obvious that this tale was invented to obfuscate or conceal the real causes of the war. Why fake a trivial incident if you're never going to mention it when you go to war? This is a typical example of Nuremberg "evidence".

God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-04-28 16:58:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: RickyJ (#21)
Not a good idea, there is little evidence such an event ever took place.

I agree, anything about the legend of the Nazis should be excluded. Most of it never happened.
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso posted on 2013-04-28 17:27:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Esso (#22)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
http://www.jeffhead.com/images/downflag.jpg
Lod posted on 2013-04-28 17:28:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: RickyJ (#21)
"Gleiwitz incident ....there is little evidence such an event ever took place."

That's news to me. Whenever I think of "false flag," that's the incident I think of.

Big Meanie posted on 2013-04-28 17:30:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Artisan (#0)
Operation Greenbacks for Wetbacks

purplerose posted on 2013-04-28 17:53:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Artisan (#0)
Understanding false flags, PSYOPS, and media fakery
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-04-28 18:30:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Artisan (#10)
People have to take it at their own pace, imho.
If they know you are telling them the truth, not opinion, then they might start digging on their own.
I think it takes a certain type of person that wants to dig. Most people don't give a damn about this because ignorance really is bliss. Life would certainly be a lot easier without dealing with the crap we deal with all the time.
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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by ~~niggers~~ blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
PSUSA2 posted on 2013-04-28 19:38:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Artisan (#0)
If he goes to public school ask him if he can define the words of the pledge.

If he can't then he has been reciting brainwashing propaganda for years...and he has every right in the world to be upset about that when he learns that he has been pledging his life and honor to cloth and evil.
Also Libya.

He should know they did nothing wrong. That Obummer could not care less about life or children. Some moms carried children. Some moms were just giving birth. and some moms held their new babies for the very first time.

And because one leader of one nation wanted to switch currencies to a gold based currency, Obama decided to launch over 100 missiles into libya, regardless of the women and children that were killed..... because the targets were civilian. Our military is monstrous. They have lost all honor.

I pray to god your little friend does not go to public school... and if he does may he get out as soon as he can....
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titorite posted on 2013-04-28 21:55:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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