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Title: Right leg on, right leg off, right leg on again - 100% proof of actors at Boston Marathon
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqTk78pLCIc
Published: May 4, 2013
Author: PlasmaBurns
Post Date: 2013-05-04 03:11:10 by RickyJ
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#15. To: PSUSA2 (#12)
It's not up to me to prove the blood is fake. If it is claimed to be real, it's up to the person claiming it to be real to prove it, or at least say why they think it's real. You argue like a crazy bitch. I just cant figure out if you and others are being serious or not. I know there are crazy people out there. Hope you are all the harmless kind of crazy. ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by Are people still trying to pretend that Jeff Bauman did not suffer devastating injuries in the bombing?! Something's wrong with them!
Notice how the disinfo pushers/believers have only ad hom attacks...
I am only going on the pictures being authentic, and I have heard no one say they aren't authentic. If these are authentic pictures from the bombing then how anyone can still deny this guy is an actor is beyond me. Legs don't disappear and reappear unless they are fake to start with. God is always good!
Yeah, something has to be wrong with people that use their own brains to make up their minds about something rather than just listening to the media and government and then parroting that. That something wrong is called thinking for yourself! You should try it sometime, it is very liberating. God is always good!
I try to only go on evidence and I ignore any personal attacks because obviously people relying on that have no argument to make. The evidence from these pictures if they are all authentic ones from the bombings in Boston makes me 100% sure Jeff was an actor that day and a bad one at that. He is getting rich now with all the donations pouring in, so his motive his financial gain, as I am sure the other actors in this are being rewarded as well too financially. God is always good!
People are trying to claim that the guy who posted this on Youtube is a CIA/FBI disinfo artist now. They won't say any of the photos are not real, they just attack him.
God is always good!
WTF happened to you? No, I didn't say that. I made a judgement based less on this thread, and the evidence which I still have in the "gray" basket pending more data, than on past activities of the persons who will remain unnamed. They have a behavior pattern not too dissimilar to yuktard. In other words I had already put them in the disinfo/agitator category and based my comment on that. That of course is a contrary indicator. When attackers have no evidence they rely on making personal attacks, and THAT is an indicator that you may be dealing with an actual disinformation poster. As I mentioned to FL I am being cautious on this. The evidence seems to be suggesting that the leg story is a fraud, but I am far from certain. As I mentioned to Christine, on another thread, I would have expected a rapid bleed out, unconsciousness in 30 seconds and dead in two minutes, from a severed Femoral Artery. So, just on the basis of there being no spurting blood, I find the photos very curious. Of course the official attempt to explain it away is that the leg was cauterized by the blast. There is so suggestion in any of the photos of enough heat to have done that. So, that is another question mark. I saved a guy's life after he had a motorcycle accident. he was bleeding out, and had a sucking chest wound from his broken ribs. Blood does some weird stuff when there's a lot of it. It is actually blue, until it hits oxygen, then hyperoxygenates, turning bright red, and then as the cells die, they turn dark, and as they dry, turn black. I work in the effects business sometimes. There's few ways to tell fake blood from real blood unless you've seen what real blood does. I've seen horrible wounds in real life. The leg in the picture has one strange characteristic. the upper leg is a different color from the knee down, and this can be from concussive bruising as the result of trauma. The leg wound, missing limb isn't the real question I have. The question I have, is that there are all these people around this guy, laying down in proximity, and none of them seem to be bloodied, or injured. When someone has a leg blown off, there is a spray of blood, tissue, and bone fragments, that can cause injuries to other people. Judging by this person's injuries, and the reports that 18 or 20 people lost limbs, I am wondering where all the body parts went, and why we aren't seeing a lot more blood in the photos? The body will constrict blood flow on its own when a horrific wound such as this happens, and until that reflex kicks in, you will bleed out, gouting amounts of blood, until the brain realizes what has happened. It's also why people pass out, because their brain literally pops a blood vessel to knock you out from the trauma. They call it going into shock. I am skeptical of everything for many reasons. Nothing has been right for the last 30 years with regard to our governement. In the last 20, we've seen the most erosion of our rights. We are going to lose this country by design if we do not put an end to the lies. I don't believe that this just happened. Ruslan Tsarni was married to CIA boss Graham Fuller's Daughter. Ruslan is ex KGB. I read Russian and speak it. I read a lot of the various Russian blogs and let's just say that this plays into the whole "I'll have a lot more flexibility in my second term" than we know. Our soldiers are going into Chechnya to fix the shit our CIA people helped create. It was never about disarming our nuclear stockpile. it's about how we're going to be mercenaries for mother Russia. "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
I always assumed when Obama was talking about more flexibility with Russia after the election he was flirting with Putin who likes flexible woman. I don't know if Putin likes men too, but I am fairly sure Obama does. Neither Putin or Obama have any real power, they are both puppets in this game for the fun of it all, while the real leaders pull the strings and manipulate events to achieve their agenda.
God is always good!
I am amazed the guy could hold his head up normally in a wheel chair. What with the massive loss of blood and explosive shock trauma.... No seriously. He lost how much blood? Was improperly transported on a wheel chair and dripped no blood trail behind him and got very little blood on anyone ... no spurting... How come those around him are not also all blown to bits? ... Hell those around him could be considered to be on vacation in many shots....No pyschological impact on their faces at some points... No vomitting of horror. No blind terror or serious mass panic running. ...... Just a small scale surprise and some bad acting. SHIT AT LEAST BASIC FIRST AID DEMAND YOU COVER THE WOUND! PREVENT INFECTION!!!! FUCK!!!. IS THE COWBOY HOLDING THE MAN BY HIS GORE IN MANY SHOTS?!?!?!?! WTF!!! Some folks can't look at bloody matter. Many are medically ignorant.... This boston thing is bad hollywood on par... and that it is being believed ... uff. bothersom. I rambled. Sorry about that. Yeah the home fry was in no shape to be able to hold his head up let alone maintain consciousness. He had to be down 2 pints or better just not having legs anymore. Should be bleed out and dead. Not holding his head up in his chair. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist propaganda/Learn NLP
Thank you for that insight, Tommy. Does it look fake to you? It looks very fake to me.
I know. It grosses many right out. Doesn't bother me. I can sit and look at a picture of people bleeding all over the place for as long as I want and emotion isn't clouding my perception. I care not whether those people are alive or dead or healthy or crippled. Objective, cold observation is necessary to discern reality from fiction. Giving no fucks about whether the blood is fake or real allows me to observe without prejudice. Simple stuff. phony as the day is long. here's why. if there were 18 to 20 people who lost limbs, the area where the explosion happened, would have blown the limbs, blood, and people in one direction.concussive force directed back behind the bomb would have sent those people behind it flying as well. the bloodspray, and blood on the ground would have been epic. there are no sprays, no directional sprays, not to mention all those clean people laying in what should have been ichor. the photo of the actual bomb, and bomb bag tells an interesting story in of itself. the explosion blew the lid off, and ruptured the cylinder. this gives the essential directional radius of the explosion. take that, and the blood spray of debris and you get a much more conclusive picture as to why it is fake. "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
Thank you. I guess the scene was cleaned up before cops got a chance to do any blood splatter analysis.
In my personal examination of the earliest of pictures, which I believe are authentic, I don't see Jeff Bauman or the particular 'actress' blonde. The 'cowboy' is seen; but not in great detail. This controversial 'related set' of pictures just doesn't seem to be the least bit authentic. However, if they are fakes, there had to be some major pre- planning; the timing of their release would demand it. In the background, I E-mailed a 'supposed' friend who used these photos; asking about their source - I haven't heard from him. Logically, it's necessary to get a reliable background on 'this' Jeff Bauman and the cowboy. Who can vouch for their role as "ordinary citizens?" In one report, Bauman supposedly said that Tamerlan dropped the backpack at his feet. Blast effects can be incredibly weird; but given the chronicled fireball, why isn't he showing at least burns, as well? He should also have been temporarily deaf. For that matter, he should have also suffered a shock-induced regressive amnesia.
They removed the video from Youtube. Did anyone save it?
God is always good!
It has been re-uploaded, but it won't last for long. Download it if you want to keep it for reference later. God is always good!
good comments. i appreciate your input.
yes, that's what i want to see. FL, you say this exists. have you seen any photos of Jeff Bauman at work, with family, running, anything before the bombing? a comment or two from supposed co-workers doesn't cut it for me.
as am I.
Christine, would a live interview with co-workers vouching for Jeff Bauman's existance suit anyone? I'm sure they'd say IT was "faked" too. Call Costco in Nashua, NH and ask THEM what's going on. Please feel free to relay whatever they say... (FL) I'm sure they'd say IT was "faked" too. Call Costco in Nashua, NH and ask THEM what's going on. Please feel free to relay whatever they say... (translation): i can't speak for anyone else. it would for me. i know the photos that i have seen of Jeff in the hospital mere days after the bombing do not have the look of a man who's suffered such devastating injuries. it's doubtful that anyone at the Costco would take a call like that much less answer questions. wouldn't you agree?
Then I say let some widely regarded Internet journalist make the trip to Costco and ask them some questions. Nobody would believe it if it were from anyone they didn't already trust. And I really don't want to go from FL to revealing anything about who I might be in real life. Too many nuts out there. Make the trip brave one. Talk to the people yourself.
As I think of it, you'd get one sort of response if he never worked there, and yet an entirely different response if he did. It's just a phone call to find out either way. Everyone could be paid off to keep quiet about this, including COSTCO. That would explain why no one comes forward. One, they would put their life in danger if they did. Two, they would lose their nice payoff for being quiet. I will need to see a real unaltered picture of him in shorts or a swim suit with his real legs showing. I know from the pictures that the lack of blood and the time they waited to help him with two legs off, and then when they finally did help him they put him in a wheelchair instead of a stretcher, all of this makes it highly unlikely that he lost his legs at the Boston marathon. God is always good!
I just made the call to the Nashua Costco and got verification that Jeff Bauman is indeed an employee.
I really wouldn't expect them to say anything different. God is always good!
And that is why you are full of awesome. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist propaganda/Learn NLP
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Nice site. Jeff wasn't in the hospital that long for a guy that lost both legs in a bomb attack, and the only thing he complained about in a recent radio interview was his slight loss of hearing from the bomb. Imagine that, you just lose both of your legs and you seem to only be concerned about a little hearing loss to the bomb. The guy is getting lots of money from donations, and I would think from the FBI/CIA as well, he has every reason in the world to keep up the act, it is making him a wealthy man.
God is always good!
Jeff Bauman is doing really well now. This has to be one of the fastest recoveries from a double amputation ever. Here he waves the Boston Bruins flag energetically before a game. God is always good!
Thanks for that information. That was such a ffpsyop that I'm not really glued to it anymore. I just accept it as the way this zioregime does business here, and abroad. Stock-up, load-up, and beware. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The burden of proof is on the persons of officialdom who initially made the claims that the depictions are real. Their lack of concern for those in the area as to possible exposure from blood-borne diseases (like Hepatitis and HIV/AIDS) is evidence that indicates their claims are false. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It's not up to me to prove the blood is real. If it is claimed to be fake, it's up to the person claiming it to be fake to prove it, or at least say why they think it's fake.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#16. To: FormerLurker (#14)
Karma is a bitch.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#17. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#16)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#18. To: wudidiz (#15)
It's not up to me to prove the blood is fake. If it is claimed to be real, it's up to the person claiming it to be real to prove it, or at least say why they think it's real.
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#19. To: RickyJ (#0)
#20. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#19)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#21. To: wudidiz (#20)
Notice how the disinfo pushers/believers have only ad hom attacks...
#22. To: Shoonra (#19)
Are people still trying to pretend that Jeff Bauman did not suffer devastating injuries in the bombing?! Something's wrong with them!
#23. To: Original_Intent (#11)
With the disinformation people flocking in to shit on the thread it actually makes me think that there is some there, there.
#24. To: All (#0)
#25. To: FormerLurker (#13)
OI, from what I recall you'd dig deeper into things than believing wild assed conjecture from conspiracy peddlers. So now anyone who doesn't believe EVERY claim made on the Internet is a "disinformation person", right?
#26. To: RickyJ, FormerLurker (#24)
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People are trying to claim that the guy who posted this on Youtube is a CIA/FBI disinfo artist now. They won't say any of the photos are not real, they just attack him.
#27. To: wudidiz (#4)
#28. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#27)
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#29. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#27)
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#30. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#27)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#31. To: titorite (#29)
Some folks can't look at bloody matter.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#32. To: wudidiz (#30)
#33. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#34. To: RickyJ (#0)
I smell a really nasty rat.
#35. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#34)
#36. To: All (#35)
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#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#27)
#38. To: SKYDRIFTER, FormerLurker (#34)
Logically, it's necessary to get a reliable background on 'this' Jeff Bauman and the cowboy. Who can vouch for their role as "ordinary citizens?"
#39. To: Original_Intent (#26)
I am being cautious on this
#40. To: christine (#38)
FL, you say this exists. have you seen any photos of Jeff Bauman at work, with family, running, anything before the bombing? a comment or two from supposed co-workers doesn't cut it for me.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#41. To: christine, FormerLurker (#40)
(christine)
...have you seen any photos of Jeff Bauman at work, with family, running, anything before the bombing?...
Christine, would a live interview with co-workers vouching for Jeff Bauman's existance suit anyone?
No.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#42. To: FormerLurker (#40)
Christine, would a live interview with co-workers vouching for Jeff Bauman's existance suit anyone?
#43. To: christine (#42)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#44. To: wudidiz (#41)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#45. To: christine (#42)
it's doubtful that anyone at the Costco would take a call like that much less answer questions. wouldn't you agree?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#46. To: christine (#38)
(Edited)
a comment or two from supposed co-workers doesn't cut it for me.
#47. To: FormerLurker, wudidiz, ALL (#45)
#48. To: christine (#47)
I just made the call to the Nashua Costco and got verification that Jeff Bauman is indeed an employee.
#49. To: christine (#47)
I just made the call to the Nashua Costco and got verification that Jeff Bauman is indeed an employee.
#50. To: christine, 4 (#47)
jeff bauman factoids here -
#51. To: Lod (#50)
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#52. To: All (#51)
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#53. To: RickyJ (#51)
#54. To: wudidiz (#15)
It's not up to me to prove the blood is fake. If it is claimed to be real, it's up to the person claiming it to be real to prove it, or at least say why they think it's real.
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