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Title: 9 11 Fake Video Stars: The J Star Clones – Why Covert Operation’s Cointel Must Have ‘Fake’ Video and ‘No Planes’
Source: Ed Ward, MD's Blog: US Tyranny & Treason
URL Source: http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/
Published: May 5, 2013
Author: Ed Ward M.D.
Post Date: 2013-05-05 20:49:50 by Original_Intent
Keywords: planes, no-planes, 911, towers
Views: 22421
Comments: 451

9 11 Fake Video Stars: The J Star Clones – Why Covert Operation’s Cointel Must Have ‘Fake’ Video and ‘No Planes’

9 11 Fake Video Stars: The J Star Clones - Why Covert Operation's Cointel Must Have 'Fake' Video

US Government Problem: Video of the planes needed to actually fly into the WTCs are readily available to the public.

US Government Solution: Promote the Videos as ‘fake’ based on ‘pixel’ BS – This solves the ‘evidence’ problem while never noting that the planes are NOT commercial airliners – which are not structurally capable of performing the tasks and look nothing like the photographic proof that commercial airliners are ‘not in the picture’ and US Government Military Planes are ‘in the picture’. Actually, an excellent scam premise when pumped out by the covert op truth troops.

Wingtips say B 767-400ERE-10A is THE CLONE USED to fly into the WTCs – Unless someone has a version that matches the video better.

The videos show that a Boeing 767-400ER E-10A was the supposed Super-Powered’ Commercial Airliner’. (One of these all very similar clones is clearly seen – one version of these clones has the ‘swept’ back wingtips used to discredit the video as fakery by some… Boeing 767-400ER E-10A) All early videos show the pod and the swept back wing – Recently, I’ve seen newer posts of truth videos in which the planes have neither.

Something that is fake can prove nothing, except that it is fake. It can not prove whether, how, or even if an actual event happened or not. Of course for this premise of ‘fake’ video proving anything one must also believe that during planning…

Someone says, since the plan is to use hijacked airliners, “Hey, let’s not use real planes. Let’s truck the plane parts in, crews to lay them out, people to say they saw planes, etc, et al, and just make some fake videos of planes going into the towers. Now, when we make these fake videos, instead of photoshopping in a commercial airliner with windows, we’ll photoshop in the plane needed to actually do it. Everybody high fives and says, ‘yeah, it’s just our lives on the line for treason.’ ”

Next day, the moron is no longer a threat… most likely scenario, taken out by their own family out of fear they’d all be taken out. It’s ludicrous on multiple levels.. Not just one.

The Ivy Flats Video, the testing of the first micro nuke, the Davy Crockett, is a perfect example of a camera that simply is too slow. Sure, cameras are a lot faster now, so have the travel speeds. They capture erratic images AT BEST when velocity exceeds capture speed images/PIXELS distort. Fact as clearly seen on the Ivy Flats video as soldiers move off train watch what happens to their legs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv_q8q6Z9_I

Fake video is only important if one NEEDS to disprove video evidence that a SUPER POWERED IRREGULAR SHAPED, NON WINDOWED ‘COMMERCIAL AIRLINER’ FLEW INTO THE WTCS – INDIRECTLY, without drawing attention to the fact a military aircraft flew into the WTCs. It’s still being done today by so called ‘truthers’. Did the ‘truther orgs’ say? The US government has been caught using its own planes to destroy the WTCs? No everything was silent and then came the need for the ‘fake video’ call.

No Windows in Flight 175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRC4lCQuBmc&feature=related

Evaluation of Video Footage – for WTC comparisons…

http://911review.org/Wiki/Wtc2PlanePod.shtml

Photo: Boeing N256BA – E-10 MC2A http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3040/2351680318_dcaff7147e_z.jpg?zz=1

Related photos: http://www.spyflight.co.uk/767%20mc2a.htm

There are additional photos in original article ’9 11 Fake Video Stars: The JSTAR Clones. Why Covert Ops Must Have Fake Video 9-11 Fake Video Stars – The JSTAR Clones 10-1-10 Note, the little blue decal up front – one of the WTC witnesses claims to have seen one on the ‘plane that flew into..) BTW, eye witness testimony – the LEAST valuable information WITHOUT additional evidence. http://www.rense.com/general92/911fk.htm

F-4 Phantom at 500 mph into a solid concrete wall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4IEa7jTJw

(Bullets Into Steel – Under pressure and friction metals tend to liquefy) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfFoMyMoiX4

The wall was 12 ft thick, THE PLANE WAS NOT FILLED WITH WATER, but the tanks were to simulate fuel.

“But there was a test similar to what is described above. In 1988, an
unmanned F-4 Phantom, ballasted with water and mounted on rails, was
“flown” into a concrete wall at 480 MPH. As reported, the plane crumpled,
and penetrated only about 2 inches of concrete. A very impressive test -
except it wasn’t meant to be a test of nuclear reactor safety. The wall
the F-4 crashed into was not a simulation of a nuclear plant’s wall. It
was a 12-foot-thick wall mounted on an air cushion. The test was designed to study impact forces by measuring how far the impact would push the wall. Breaking through the concrete was the last thing any of the involved scientists wanted to achieve. Furthermore, the F-4 was ballasted with water to give it the same weight as a plane fully loaded with fuel, and its final weight was 42,000 pounds. Needless to say, crashing a 412,000 pound 767 loaded with fuel into a fixed wall would have slightly different results.

Because according to a 1982 study by the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois – a study which was conducted by request of the DOE and the NRC – the explosion from a 707 crashing into a containment dome at 466 MPH would probably overwhelm the reactor’s shielding. Note – that’s a 707, which weighs 336,000 pounds. In 1982 those were big jets. But we’ve “advanced” considerably since then. The 767s that were flown into the World Trade Center weighed 80,000 pounds more than that and carried a lot more fuel.

Other studies, again conducted for the NRC at the Lawrence Livermore
National Laboratory, found that a 125,000 pound jet had a 32 % chance of piercing a containment building’s six-foot base and an 84 % chance of
breaking through the dome.” http://everything2.com/user/DejaMorgana/writeups/Nuclear+Power

“A key report, Sugano et al 1992, covers a rocket sled crash experiment using an F-4D Phantom jet fighter impacting into a 10 foot thick reinforced concrete block.

Sandia notes:
The purpose of the test was to determine the impact force, versus time, due to the impact, of a complete F-4 Phantom — including both engines — onto a massive, essentially rigid reinforced concrete target (3.66 meters thick). Previous tests used F-4 engines at similar speeds. The test was not intended to demonstrate the performance (survivability) of any particular type of concrete structure to aircraft impact. The impact occurred at the nominal velocity of 215 meters per second (about 480 mph). The mass of the jet fuel was simulated by water; the effects of fire following such a collision was not a part of the test. The test established that the major impact force was from the engines. The test was performed by Sandia National Laboratories under terms of a contract with the Muto Institute of Structural Mechanics, Inc., of Tokyo.

With very minimal damage to the concrete target block, the plane and its engines were easily converted into small chunks of metal confetti and shrapnel at the physical interface of the two impact objects. Upon initial impact, the follow-on rear portions of the plane yet to make contact retained their shape integrity until their respective impact. (This seriously contradicts claims by Jean-Pierre Desmoulins that the wings of a 757 would have folded forward, as well as claims in the popular press that the wings folded back before entering the “too-small” hole.) The resulting shear caused debris being spread out to the left, right, and rear of the impact locus, having no ability to proceed in their original vector path, having grossly failed the test of strength with the concrete block. However, the wings are wider than the concrete block, so the wingtips are sheared off whole, and they tumble forward after being cleanly separated from the aircraft.

F4 aircraft impacting a solid concrete barrier. Note that the wings and tail do not fold as the nose impacts the concrete. (source: don’t bother moved -http://www.sandia.gov/media/NRgallery00-03.htm)

Sugano (in itself) doesn’t show that a 757 hitting the Pentagon would be turned into confetti and small chunks, but it does show that an F4 was completely destroyed in arguably similar circumstances. Furthermore, it wasn’t anywhere close to an even contest between the wall and the F4. The F4 started with a speed of 215 m/sec — and the tail was still traveling at 185 m/sec when it smashed into the wall. The F4 is a very strongly build aircraft, although at 18 meters long and 19 kg, it’s about a third the length and a fifth the weight of the 757. In terms of comparing what would happen to a 757 versus what happened to the F4, it would be difficult to do an accurate calculation without detailed design information on both aircraft. In a preliminary analysis, the extra length of the 757 means that it has three times the distance to decelerate — but the 757 is also much heavier, so it’s more difficult for the crushing process to supply enough force to decelerate even as rapidly as the F4 did.” http://www.911-strike.com/missing-confetti.htm The article from the ‘pentagon disinformation unit’ counters the information from the ‘WTC no planes disinformation unit’.

Ed Ward, MD – http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/ ;
https://www.facebook.com/EdWardMD3 ; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdWard-MD/messages

More US Drill Death in Waco Explosion – Drill Stops for Reality, Again http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/more-us-drill-death-in-waco-drill-stops-for-reality-again/

Boston Marathon: The Finish Line For US Treason. Drill Death. Everything’s In Place For Police State. by Ed Ward, MD http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-the-finish-line-for-us-treason-drill-death-everything-is-in-place-for-police-state-by-ed-ward-md/

Pictures: US Boston Weapon – Both ‘Explosions’ – The Secret of the Pure Fusion Weapon – Li7 – Lithium 7 http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/photograph-of-boston-fireball-2nd-explosion/

Dr. Ed Ward MD, AS, BS, MD – Reporting and investigating Constitutional abuses of the US government for almost 2 decades. AS, BS in Medical Technology – Minor in Organic Chemistry and Physics, volunteer during the Viet Nam war 6 years stateside active duty ‘med tech’ ‘US Air Farce’ – a decade experience in Medical Technology. MD degree from LSU, New Orleans – 2 decades in the field of General Practice. (My) Articles are also referenced by valid experts in their field.


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For you "no planers" there are other rational explanations other than the planted disinfo (to discredit questions on 911) that there were no planes.(1 image)

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#85. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Why is this bullshit being re-hashed? The only significant official truth about 9- 11 is that two 767s hit the towers.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-12   0:23:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: SKYDRIFTER (#85)

Why is this bullshit being re-hashed? The only significant official truth about 9- 11 is that two 767s hit the towers.

Wanna explain how they did that with out any trace of wake vortex following them into and through the smoke?

Basic laws of aerodynamics.....

Ignorance begets tyranny.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-12   0:30:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: titorite (#86)

Wanna explain how they did that with out any trace of wake vortex following them into and through the smoke?

Through what smoke?

If you don't know, I'm captain qualified on the 757/767.

Wake turbulence is a feature of a slow-moving aircraft at takeoff and landing speeds 120 - 150 knots; with flaps extended.

The 767's would have been at a minimum airspeed of 250 knots; given that no flaps were extended.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-12   0:38:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: SKYDRIFTER (#87) (Edited)

Through what smoke?

If you don't know, I'm captain qualified on the 757/767.

Wake turbulence is a feature of a slow-moving aircraft at takeoff and landing speeds 120 - 150 knots; with flaps extended.

The 767's would have been at a minimum airspeed of 250 knots; given that no flaps were extended.

I want you and EVERYONE to note that I specifically asked you (an alleged qualified pilot captain) about wake vortex.

Not wake turbulence.

Wake vortex happens as an after effect of the wings moving through the air. Like a boat cutting through the water it is always present. It does not "not happen" just because a plane is in take off or landing. It is a feature of all aircraft at all times. It is basic aerodynamics.

How could a person such as yourself be ignorant to this fact?

Are you messing around with me?

titorite  posted on  2013-05-12   5:03:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: titorite, Christine, FormerLurker, Lod, Artisian, Wudidiz, GreyLmist, IRTorqued, Robin, StephenLendman, Original_Intent, RickyJ, Tartarwitz, BTPHoldings, itisalreadytolate (#95)

How could a person such as yourself be ignorant to this fact?

I want you and EVERYONE to note that I specifically asked you (an alleged qualified pilot captain) about wake vortex.


Titorite, my apologies, I took it for granted that you were referring to the more commonly known “wake turbulence.” In my personal experience, I’ve known few qualified pilots to use the term “wake vortex.” In fact, I'm more than surprised that you know that particular term. However, the term. “wake vortex,” is pertinent and – in fact – is documented on 9-11 to anyone’s intelligent satisfaction. As I illustrate, I hope you are also satisfied.

"Wake vortex" is most prominently witnessed by the human eye in the presence of reasonably dense clouds, fog or smoke. It can also be evidenced at high cruise altitudes by ice crystals; most commonly the product of jet engine exhaust contrails. It is far less commonly evidenced by the aerodynamic condensation of water vapor (humidity).

In the last few 9-11 video clips of the second aircraft hitting the WTC, a seeming “pod” is seen under the right wing-root. Detailed examination of those clips shows that the “pod” grows – but leaves vapor “wisps.” In concert, the “pod” is seen as the aircraft is maneuvered, aerodynamically creating the condensation dynamics for the wake vortex to be witnessed/recorded.

The same effect is occasionally seen during the takeoff of a commercial jet; as the aircraft rotates, during the takeoff – in the presence of high humidity or fog. The effect evidences the real-time aerodynamic “lift” airflow. Again, as the aircraft is maneuvered.

What few qualified pilots appreciate is that the compounded curves of jet transport wing-roots effect the greatest localized magnitude for the “Bernoulli effect,” the ‘stuff’ of aerodynamic “lift;” aka, pressure differential. Thus, the appearance of the apparent “pod” is not an arbitrary location.

The “pod,” ironically serves your position – though probably not to your pleasure.

Please be advised that my aviation credentials are factual; not “alleged.” Comparably, your bullshit “no-planes” assertions are factual; not “alleged.”

The WTC “no-planes” issue has been competently debunked from early on. Only ignoramuses, fools, idiots and disinformationists go there.

If you’re truly interested in 9-11 “no-planes” facts; look to the 9-11 Pentagon and Shanksville. Those locations offer some of the most powerful truth to argue “inside-job.” The same WTC “no-planes” ignoramuses, fools, idiots and disinformationists won’t or can’t go there – for obvious reasons.

If you need or want a competent and detailed account of 9-11, please pack a big lunch and see:

“9-11 and the Truth”

Please pardon the ‘pulled’ graphics, the ‘official’ powers have their proverbial “vays.” More and more, we’re seeing the onset of Next-Generation Nazism; don’t you think?

Titorite, if you’re factually interested in pertinent 9-11 facts, I’ve opened a major door for you. As due and timely notice, pass the opportunity at your own peril. You’re on the verge of becoming everyday automatic “attack sport;” as are any of your seeming supporters. If you ask any of the 4-um "old timers," you'll discover that I'm the last person that you want to cross swords with; directly or indirectly. Or, if you're an 'old' disinformationist who has dealt with me before (under a different moniker); you already know that.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-12   16:25:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: SKYDRIFTER (#141) (Edited)

You’re on the verge of becoming everyday automatic “attack sport;” as are any of your seeming supporters.

"Attack sport" targeting No Planers is the purpose of this thread.

If you’re truly interested in 9-11 “no-planes” facts; look to the 9-11 Pentagon and Shanksville. Those locations offer some of the most powerful truth to argue “inside-job.” The same WTC “no-planes” ignoramuses, fools, idiots and disinformationists won’t or can’t go there – for obvious reasons.

I don't know where you got that impression but let's move the jet airflow discussion to the Pentagon site for a moment and over the cars on the highway. If a high speed jet stream can flip planes, what's your thoughts on the impact of that or not to those cars?

Edited first sentence of last paragraph for grammar + 2nd quote section for strikethrough, spacing and highlighting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-12   19:15:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: GreyLmist (#184)

I don't know where you got that impression but let's move the jet airflow discussion to the Pentagon site for a moment and over the cars on the highway. If a high speed jet stream can flip planes, what's your thoughts on the impact of that or not to those cars?

I'm not aware of a case of high speed airfoil related forces flipping cars. Certainly not at the 9-11 Pentagon scenario - there is no viable evidence of an aircraft; as 'officially' claimed.

In an independent scenario, the engine thrust, well above idle thrust, of a parked jet transport can flip cars if they are close enough; that's evident in history.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-12   19:59:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: SKYDRIFTER (#187)

there is no viable evidence of an aircraft; as 'officially' claimed.

The first minute of this video shows a press conference held by Porter Goss -the same Goss that had breakfast with the Financier of flight 77-Mahmud Ahmed-- on the morning of 911 - at the Capitol on that fateful day.

It must be after what happened in NY but before whatever happened at the Pentagon.

What is making the jet noise?

Aquila  posted on  2013-05-12   23:34:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Aquila (#199)

What is making the jet noise?

I'd say a jet aircraft for sure; but it occurs significantly after the presented/assumed "event" at the Pentagon.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-13   0:14:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: SKYDRIFTER (#201)

I'd say a jet aircraft for sure; but it occurs significantly after the presented/assumed "event" at the Pentagon.

That press conference occurred between the NY events and whatever happened at the pentagon -or as it happened.. The video proves the timeline. If that press conference happened "significantly after" the event at the pentagon the people milling about while Goss speaks would have to be insane. Look at the people running for their lives. If you watch the whole thing it's clear as a bell.

That's flight 77 audio on tape. It could not be anything else.

Aquila  posted on  2013-05-13   12:10:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Aquila (#219)

The video is quite clear that the Pentagon "event" happened much sooner than the jet noise.

There is no "viable" aircraft evidence at the Pentagon; there is overwhelming physical evidence that the purported 757 crash is 100% fake - to the last tangible detail.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-15   16:58:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: SKYDRIFTER (#292)

The video is quite clear that the Pentagon "event" happened much sooner than the jet noise.

Could you explain how you come up with that theory?

In that video, which pretty clearly happens *after* the towers were hit in NYC- and before ANY event at the pentagon, there is an explosion immediately before the jet noise. If the "event" happened "much sooner" why are people acting as if there is nothing out of the ordinary -locally?

I am convinced that that one short clip of Goss is one of the most important clips from the whole day- no matter how one interprets it. Whatever that explosion is, and the jet noise- from whatever jet- is a key that unlocks more doors and raises new questions. And it's not Military Jet noise, as the video shows that all military planes were 10 minutes away- which is by itself pretty clear evidence of something VERY wrong, as they knew that a plane was not responding to radio and was heading that way.

Aquila  posted on  2013-05-15   20:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#322. To: Aquila (#302)

9-11 is loaded with illogical 'stuff.' Examining the impossible and extremely improbable is the core approach to the truth.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2013-05-16 16:57:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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