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Title: US State Department Halts 3-D Gun Production: Demands Removal Of All Online Blueprints
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URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013- ... -removal-all-online-blueprints
Published: May 10, 2013
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2013-05-10 06:53:18 by Esso
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Three days ago, in an article that looked at the convergence of 3-D printing and the 2nd Amendment, we presented "the Liberator" - the world's first fully 3-D printed firearm. The name was aptly chosen because courtesy of its creator, 25-year old UofT law student Cody Wilson, and his non-profit group Defense Distributed, its online blueprint and assembly instructions liberated "anyone to be able to download and print a gun with no serial number, in the privacy of their garage" in effect completely circumventing any gun control/distribution laws, background checks and other regulatory hurdles of an increasingly authoritarian government. In fact, we were counting the number of days before some US Federal agency would come knocking on Cody Wilson's door and involved that other key Amendment - the First, by either "disappearing him" or politely enforcing a permanent Cease and Desist of all production, including, of course, the removal of all online "liberating" blueprints. We didn't have long to wait - it took just one week. As Tech Crunch reports, "the State Department has demanded that new blueprints for a fully 3-D-printed gun be taken offline just a week after they were posted. The Office of Defense Trade Controls Compliance is forcing outspoken Second Amendment crusader Cody Wilson to remove the downloadable 3-D printer files from Defcad.org under expert laws known as the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR)." "Until the Department provides Defense Distributed with final [commodity jurisdiction] determinations, Defense Distributed should treat the above technical data as ITAR-controled,” reads the State Department order, seen below in its entirety. Specifically, the Dept of State claims that under "ITAR, it is unlawful to export any defense article or technical data for which a license or written approval is required without first obtaining the required authorization from the DDTC. Please note that disclosing (including oral or visual disclosure) or transferring technical data to a foreign person, whether in the United States or abroad, is considered an expoert under [ ] ITAR." And since by implication this means that all the data can be seen by at least one foreigner, "this means that all such data should be removed from public access immediately." Naturally, Cody would be stupid to fight the US government on this one, which is why he won't. "We have to comply" he told Forbes. However, courtesy of the magic of the internet, taking down his files does nothing for the some 100,000 downloads of the entire blueprint set, distributed among various nodes, and are now held, in one instance, in Kim Dotcom's offshore New Zealand servers, where not even the long hand of John Kerry can reach. And just as a backup, the files have also been uploaded to the decentralized bittorrent database, Pirate Bay. More interesting will be whether the PGP case study of anti-Big Brother retaliation applies in the Liberator case. As TechCrunch explains: According to Forbes’ Andy Greenberg, Wilson sees parallels between his strife and the governments abandoned attempts at censoring military-grade encryption software. In the 1990s inventor Phil Zimmermann released software, PGP, so difficult to crack that it could have permitted malicious actors from hiding information from law enforcement. Wilson believes public pressure ultimately convinced the government to back off of Zimmermann. It’ll be interesting to see whether the government has any actual power to prevent the propagation of 3-D gun blueprints. Since the libertarian community is quite adept at bypassing the tyranny of an encroaching despot, it has already made the pre-banned files widely available to anyone who wishes to access them. The links, courtesy of SHTFplan.com, are below: •Pirate Bay torrent download information: thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8..._-_First_3D_Printable_Gun •Or at: thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8.../DefDist_Liberator_Pistol •ZIP FILE: www.fatguyinmontana.com/2...ributed-liberator-pistol/ •You’ll also need a 3D printer – the Cube 3D printer is available for retail purchase from Staples at a cost of $1299. Finally, as a warning to those who wish to take the Federal government head on in what appears to be its attempt to regulate decentralized gun creation, SHTFplan also presents the following warning. An administrator at the DefCad forums posted the following warning regarding the government’s takedown and the current status of The Liberator and 3D firearms based on its plans: I’ll be bringing in legal authority and FAQ, but for now, if you are not a registered FFL/SOT: 1. DO NOT print a completely polymer firearm capable of firing a bullet (barrel inserts or no), as you will likely create anNFA regulated firearm. Specifically, you will likely create an AOW zip gun. 2. DO NOT print a completely polymer firearm capable of firing a bullet (barrel inserts or no), as you will likely violate the so-called Undetectable Firearms Act. Not listening to items 1 and 2 means you are on your way to committing a Federal crime. Because of the public profile and interest over this kind of activity at the moment, you WILL be made an example of. You WILL go to federal prison, and you WILL never be able to own a firearm again. The full State Department Letter, signed by Glenn Smith, Chief of the Enforcement Division, demanding the removal of the 3D gun blueprints is presented below. Poster Comment: Probably best viewed at source.
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#1. To: christine, Lod, Jethro Tull, 4um (#0)
This appears to be a significant development. Time is growing very short. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Things are accelerating all right, but the genie's out of the bottle on Wilson's invention. I'm happy with my conventional arms... “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
And, don't vote for a completely "polymer" politician capable of legislating away your freedoms, as you will likely create a tyranny. We should all be livid. Stop acting like docile, mentally castrated pussies and grow a pair. It's time to get in their face. Why should we speak in hushed tones and act all polite when we are being raped every day?
There's a lot here to digest. I'm not real clear on what authority the state dept has on regulating firearms or what is posted on the internet, for one. I'll have to get back on this later, terraforming duty calls... I'd recommend reading the 300+ comments at ZH, there's some sharp cookies over there. See ya later. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. As another thread here points out, if .gov does it; it must be legal. That's the sickening point we've come to. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
That made me laugh. That is a surefire way to get people to download and pass along these plans, even if they don't have a 3d printer. It's on the internet. It's here to stay. ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by To heck with that.. I want my pneumatic powered Plastic drones. It is time for REAL tyranny defense! Drones for the PEOPLE! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
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What the Founders meant by 'Militia': Tenche Coxe: “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788. Tench Coxe: “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American… [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788. Tench Coxe: “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” in “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution,” under the pseudonym “A Pennsylvanian” in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789. Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: “Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” (spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, August 17, 1789.) Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: “What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.” Rep. of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789). Alexander Hamilton: “…that standing army can never be formidable (threatening) to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in the use of arms.” (Federalist Paper #29) Alexander Hamilton: “Little more can be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped.” (Id) {responding to the claim that the militia itself could threaten liberty}” There is something so far-fetched, and so extravagant in the idea of danger of liberty from the militia that one is at a loss whether to treat it with gravity or raillery (mockery). (Id) Alexander Hamilton: “The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious, if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, or even a week, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss. It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor of the country, to an amount which, calculating upon the present numbers of the people, would not fall far short of the whole expense of the civil establishments of all the States. To attempt a thing which would abridge the mass of labor and industry to so considerable an extent, would be unwise: and the experiment, if made, could not succeed, because it would not long be endured. Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed and equipped” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No.2 Patrick Henry: “The people have a right to keep and bear arms.” (Elliott, Debates at 185) Patrick Henry: “Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?, 3 Elliot Debates 168-169. Patrick Henry: “The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” 3 Elliot, Debates at 386. Thomas Jefferson: “And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms… The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”, letter to William S. Smith, 1787, in S. Padover (Ed.), Jefferson, On Democracy (1939), p. 20. Thomas Jefferson In his Commonplace Book, Jefferson quotes Cesare Beccaria from his seminal work, On Crimes and Punishment: “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” Thomas Jefferson: “A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.” Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 (Foley, Ed., 1967). Thomas Jefferson: “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”, Proposal for a Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed. 1950) Richard Henry Lee: “To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them…” (LIGHT HORSE HARRY) LEE, writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788) Richard Henry Lee: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” (Additional letters from the Federal Farmer, at 169, 1788) President James Madison: “…to support the Constitution, which is the cement of the Union, as well in its limitations as in its authorities; to respect the rights and authorities reserved to the States and to the people as equally incorporated with and essential to the success of the general system;… to keep within the requisite limits a standing military force, always remembering that an armed and trained militia is the firmest bulwark of republics – that without standing armies their liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones safe; …” – President James Madison, First Inaugural address, Saturday, March 4, 1809. James Madison: “A WELL REGULATED militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” (1st Annals of Congress, at 434, June 8th 1789, emphasis added. James Madison: “As the greatest danger to liberty is from large standing armies, it is best to prevent them by an effectual provision for a good militia.” (notes of debates in the 1787 Federal Convention) George Mason: “I ask you sir, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people.” (Elliott, Debates, 425-426) Thomas Paine: “The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside… Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them…” I Writings of Thomas Paine at 56 (1894) William Rawle: “In the second article, it is declared, that a well regulated militia is necessary to a free state; a proposition from which few will dissent. Although in actual war, in the services of regular troops are confessedly more valuable; yet while peace prevails, and in the commencement of a war before a regular force can be raised, the militia form the palladium of the country. They are ready to repel invasion, to suppress insurrection, and preserve the good order and peace of government. That they should be well regulated, is judiciously added. A disorderly militia is disgraceful to itself, and dangerous not to the enemy, but to its own country. The duty of the state government is, to adopt such regulation as will tend to make good soldiers with the least interruptions of the ordinary and useful occupations of civil life. In this all the Union has a strong and visible interest.” – William Rawle, “A View of the Constitution of the United States of America” (1829) Joseph Story: “The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people.” – Joseph Story. Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States. 3 vols. Boston, 1833. Joseph Story (Supreme Court Justice): “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic…” Sir George Tucker: “The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits…and [when] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” – Sir George Tucker, Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court and U.S. District Court of Virginia in I Blackstone COMMENTARIES Sir George Tucker Ed., 1803, pg. 300 (App.) George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Beautiful quotes - thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Good stuff.
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It's on the internet. It's here to stay. The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet. [...] In May 2013, Defense Distributed, a website that gained notoriety in the wake of the United States gun control push following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, took down the designs for a 3D printed firearm and firearm components at the request of the United States Department of State under the Arms Export Control Act and International Traffic in Arms Regulations. After the take down, the website used a banner graphic that stated, “DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls. Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.”[35] In response, users took the files that had already been downloaded in excess of 100,000[36] times, and mirrored them using file sharing services such as The Pirate Bay and Mega (website). The Pirate Bay has now seen a large influx of new entries to its physibles section and Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson has been quoted to say that downloads have exploded. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Is there a site where you got all these quotes? Thanks. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I can't believe a plastic, single-shot, inaccurate-as-hell firearm that may very well blow off the hand of the user has the goob all upset. I think what has them worried is the fact that this episode may wake up too many folks about how easy it is to create a functional firearm with bits of metal available at any hardware store or Lowe's. I'm guessing that I could crank out a pretty decent shotgun or pengun every 15-30 minutes after figuring out the prototype. Cost would be nil. See FP-45 Liberator Pistol. GM's Guide Lamp Division cranked out a million of these in 11 weeks with only 300 workers at a cost of a couple bucks each. I think I read somewhere that the production time per unit was something like 90 seconds. Ballpark production math: 1,000,000 guns / 300 employees = 3333 guns/employee 3333 guns/employee / 11 weeks = 300 guns/week/employee 300 guns / 40 hours/week = ~8 guns/hour or about 8 minutes/gun Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. I've already downloaded everything available. And I do have a friend with a 3D printer. But I have not yet found plans for a plastic auto sear. So my buddy with a machine shop is still on the Xmas card list. www.4shared.com/account/d....html?rnd=22#dir=cvW5LMxP For your friend with the machine shop. Check the weapons folder. The caselman air powered .30 full auto might be unregulated. It would be quite a project though. ------------------------------------------ Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by Thanks much, ZH is a truly worth site for us.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I saw Cody Wilson interviewed on the 'tube. The kid has a very sizeable set to say the least. I hope the 100,000 copies of the manual he managed to get into circulation multiple like rabbits in heat.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#2. To: Esso, 4 (#1)
#3. To: Esso (#0)
DO NOT print a completely polymer firearm capable of firing a bullet (barrel inserts or no), as you will likely create anNFA regulated firearm.
#4. To: Lod (#2)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#5. To: Esso, 4 (#4)
I'm not real clear on what authority the state dept has on regulating firearms...
#6. To: Esso (#0)
"the State Department has demanded that new blueprints for a fully 3-D-printed gun be taken offline just a week after they were posted.
niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
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#8. To: All (#7)
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#9. To: 4um (#8)
H/T to Ms. Erable @ZH
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#10. To: Esso (#9)
#11. To: Esso (#9)
#12. To: PSUSA2 (#6)
That is a surefire way to get people to download and pass along these plans, even if they don't have a 3d printer.
#13. To: PSUSA2, 4um (#6)
That is a surefire way to get people to download and pass along these plans, even if they don't have a 3d printer.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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#15. To: Lod (#10)
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Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#16. To: Lod (#14)
Is there a site where you got all these quotes?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: PSUSA2 (#6)
That is a surefire way to get people to download and pass along these plans, even if they don't have a 3d printer.
#18. To: Buzzard (#17)
niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?
#19. To: Esso (#16)
#20. To: Esso, Lod, christine, 4um (#1)
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