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Title: Adam Kokesh of the DC gun protest ARRESTED for resisting arrest.
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Published: May 19, 2013
Author: life
Post Date: 2013-05-19 12:59:15 by titorite
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Comments: 138
Ive just heard Adam Kokesh, the guy organising this march with loaded guns on washington has been arrested at a pro Cannabis protest in Philledelphia. He is being held at: FEDERAL DETENTION CENTER 700 ARCH STREET PHILADELPHIA, PA 19106 Phone: 215-521-4000 E-mail address2: PHL/EXECASSISTANT@BOP.GOV It's important to point out: 1. He was arrested by Federal Agents, not Police. 2. He did not smoke at the event. 3. When arrested, he was merely speaking. 4. He is being charged with "resisting arrest," which happens during the act of arrest, so what was he arrested for in the first place? A genuine arrest or an excuse by the feds to question him about the upcoming pro gun march?
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______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker on the Boston Bombing
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Booing doesn't cut it. They needed to save him.... Sigh... I'm gonna make that fucking phone call.... I hate shit like this. Someone else needs to do this stuff. ..... Meh... phones not gonna dial itself. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker on the Boston Bombing
It has been pointed out to me.. and it is clear as day once your looking. The cops planted something on him. Or tried too. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker on the Boston Bombing
www.youtube.com/watch?fea...er_embedded&v=fCW4n7-gPU4 They DID!!! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker on the Boston Bombing
:23 - :28 clearly show the plant. Good catch! “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
This guy again? He has the smell of Frank Collin (Joseph Cohen) who pretended to fight for the right to march in Skokie, Illinois in the 1970's. The Feds have been looking for some way to remind Americans that self medicating is a federal crime. And Adam provided that opportunity for them. And Adam is obviously in the self promotion biz, preferably without sustaining any serious injuries. He's a lot like another ubiquitous, bullhorn wielding activist who often shows up and never accomplishes anything.
I didn;t see it. It looked like he was grabbing his shirt or maybe trying to hold him by the belt. I didn't his hands anywhere near a pocket. But I bet it was a plainclothes pig though. ------------------------------------------ It was actually a late arrival that clued me in... Yeah ... that plant was very well caught on camera. Now the question becomes ; how much time are the officers gonna do for attempting to plant evidence? I know the answer is more than likely no time... but I'd like to dream of justice. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker on the Boston Bombing
IDK man... It was a pretty serious blow to the head he took at the occupy thing.
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
He has the smell of Frank Collin (Joseph Cohen) who pretended to fight for the right to march in Skokie, Illinois in the 1970's. The Feds have been looking for some way to remind Americans that self medicating is a federal crime. And Adam provided that opportunity for them. And Adam is obviously in the self promotion biz, preferably without sustaining any serious injuries. He's a lot like another ubiquitous, bullhorn wielding activist who often shows up and never accomplishes anything. You are absolutely right! Everyone knows that real patriots don't actually DO anything. They just bitch and moan on internet forums. He's obviously a government plant. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT! If you go around to the various so-called "conservative" boards you will see exactly why the "patriot movement" is going exactly no where. The minute someone does something more than run their fucking mouths on the internet the "patriots" turn on them and start voraciously licking the ass of government. For an example, look at LP and see the mealy mouthed scum there. Of course Republicrat butt-lickers and faux conservatives Murron and out damned spot are leading the pack. Their appetite for government feces is insatiable.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT! I know... I know oh so well. Gall darn it... I wanna say something optimistic or at least re assuring and motivating here... ..... shit. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
Christine, is it ok if I start posting articles about titorite and his antics on this forum? Perhaps I should at least fix up my tag line to point out some of the more interesting things this guy has done recently, like try to entrap people into supplying him with a firearm when ACCORDING TO HIM, he's not supposed to have one. I'm interested. ------------------------------------------ Please have the decency to take your private feud private. No one wants to read your attacks on each other. Thank you very, very, much. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
From http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=153394&Disp=2#C2 That tyrant will not scare me into submission. Something needs to be done about his punk ass too. From http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=154943&Disp=1#C1 In fact of all the people I asked I got zero replies. From acquaintances to personal friends nobody wants to talk about printing up the 3d gun. Who can blame them. It is a scary subject with potentially real and horrible consequences...still No one wants to read your attacks on each other. Please have the decency to tell your little friend to knock the shit off and stop hounding me on this forum. Thank you very very much. You are VERY selective as to whom you reprimand aren't you Lod... Incidently, this IS NOT a "personal feud" between myself and this character calling himself "titorite", this is a matter of a SHILL attacking me on this forum in the same manner as yukon would attack his targets. Hell, yukon was an angel in comparison to this guy. If you don't see that, try scanning the Boston Marathon thread. He's done everything from alleging me and Fred Mertz work out of the same office and are in cahoots to provide "disinfo" on this forum, to just flat out lying for HUNDREDS of posts hurling accusations against me, then pretending to be all butthurt and playing the victim. And I almost forgot, he HAS been trying to entrap people here, both in PM and on the main forum. tell your little friend to knock the shit off and stop hounding me on this forum He did....the post was to the both of you. Please take it to PM and tell each other all you wish to say IN PRIVATE. Nobody wants to be the middle man while you bicker and bitch, so please go head to head in PM and give the lot of us a break around here...please. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
As soon as someone tells him to remove his bullshit accusation against me from his tag line, I'll comply. And if you DON'T care about someone here on forum pretending to be a "good guy" while in the background he's trying to entrap people with possible federal charges leading up to 10 years in the can, then perhaps you should reevaluate your priorities. There was no reprimand for either one of you...just a simple and courteous request to take your bickering to PM. Sheesh, Loddy didn't reprimand you or anybody else on this thread. Please, take a deep breath, reread the post, then rethink your post to Loddy because it really is out of bounds FL " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Thank you very very much. See here scummy, I would never do that. NEVER! I would never ask my friends to picks sides or to make another friend shut up or anything remotely like that. Low people do stuff like that. This bullshit is between us. Let us keep it that way... And for the record Lurker The Liar, I did vote again and as of yet I have not received any new letter. I guess that means my service (bondage) to the state was satisfactorily completed and that my concerns about my felonius status were no longer valid. You people suck at intimidation tactics. But shame on you for trying. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
Sorry yall.
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
And BTW, he's not interested in "bickering in PM", his main objective is to trash discussions, hurl accusations, lie, tap dance, act the victim, and lie some more. It's the actions of a SHILL, not that of one who cares about what is right or what is not. And you are STILL at it I see. It's the actions of a SHILL, not that of one who cares about what is right or what is not. Fucking shit man, are you on speed? ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
Loddy doesn't have any thing about you in his tagline. If you have a beef about a tagline go DIRECTLY to that person, don't ask others to do your dirty work. It should be clear that my problem is with your posts to Loddy. It is a fair estimate that 50% of all frickin posters on forums are pretending to be "good guys" and "thin girls".......... I really don't put that much concern into strangers who post on the internet. Why do you care so much about strangers who post on the internet FL? " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Is that going to be your heartfelt answer to all this, while you STILL have your slur about me in your tagline? I wasn't talking about Lod, I was talking about titorite. Didn't you notice? Why do you care so much about strangers who post on the internet FL? So I'm just supposed to smile and take it when someone hurls accusations against me, slurs me, lies to me and about me, while at the same time acts no different than yukon, worse than him actually? And ~100% profess to a 180+ IQ. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. So when it is all one way and you wont stop saying nasty shit about GreyLmist and wudidiz and myself ... then you have no problem former lurker the liar. BUT THE MOMENT SOMEONE DISHES IT BACK TO YOU IT'S BOO HOO HOO.. Come on coward. I sent you you the olive branch, lets take this to the PMs like they asked. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
139 ;0) ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
Yep, just like our little titboy. He doesn't even check the links he posts as "proof" of what he's saying, even though they say the opposite of what he claims. They he tells people they should "educate themselves" while pretending to be superior. We must be unafraid. And there we have it. He's inciting people into committing criminal acts. First he is an admitted felon, he wants to possess a firearm (another felony), and there's this incitement. You just nailed him to the fucking wall. ------------------------------------------ Come on coward. Another case of the perp blaming his victim. So brave little man, care to explain why you've been asking people to print you a Liberator when on another thread you admitted you were a convicted felon? Why were you making your rounds through PM asking people to make you one, when you KNOW doing so could land them in club fed for a very long time? PM jerkwad. I answered. You reply, we let them have a break
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
Change your tag line asshole, do it or I'll continue as long as I need to. Thats fine titty baby. Act however you like. Our friends and fellow members have asked us to take it to the PMs. I am PMing you and asking you to join me so that we can give them a break for awhile. If you do not want to give them a break .... well.... That is incorrect of you. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
You just nailed him to the fucking wall. Apparently people don't care. I wonder what sort of lies he's been posting to them in PM, and how gullible they are... The posts I responded to were yours to Loddy. Didn't you notice? Best to smile and retort without the drama and emotion, IMHO. However, once the emotions are out for all to see, it's best to ignore posters when the posts are causing you so much grief and agony. Once you show that you're upset, the point then becomes to upset you. It's not a winning strategy. Opt for your sanity and take the high road. That's my two cents. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
CHANGE YOUR TAGLINE dipshit.
Well then you misread what I posted because I was talking to Lod ABOUT titorite, and it is TITORITE who is slurring me via the tagline, not Lod. Ah yes, the oft mistaken MENSTRUAL cycle for MENSA. : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
What part of this didn't you understand? "Please have the decency to tell your little friend to knock the shit off and stop hounding me on this forum. 136 representing and testosterone to spare!!! :)
#2. To: titorite, smokers, 4 (#1)
one of many vids re: the arrest -
#3. To: Lod (#2)
#4. To: All (#3)
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: titorite (#5)
#7. To: titorite (#0)
#8. To: Lod (#6)
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#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#7)
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#11. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#7)
This guy again?
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
#12. To: titorite (#0)
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Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
#13. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#12)
#14. To: christine (#13)
Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing titorite posted on 2013-05-19 16:42:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)
ike try to entrap people into supplying him with a firearm when ACCORDING TO HIM, he's not supposed to have one.
#16. To: FormerLurker, titorite (#14)
#17. To: PSUSA2 (#15)
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I'm interested.
I AM CONCERNED TOO. But I am not letting that stop me. I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass if I voted again in the next election. I promptly voted put the sticker on my bumper and I dare the fucker to come after me. It wont be my first rodeo. It will affect my wife and child and standing up to the sheriff tyrant punk was the right thing to do even when I thing the voting system is rigged.
As some here may already know I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator. Turns out most people seem hesitate of such a notion as printing up one of these bad boys for distribution.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#18. To: Lod (#16)
Please have the decency to take your private feud private.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#19. To: Lod (#16)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: FormerLurker (#18)
Please have the decency to take your private feud private.
#21. To: abraxas (#20)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: FormerLurker (#19)
You are VERY selective as to whom you reprimand aren't you Lod...
#23. To: FormerLurker, (#18)
(Edited)
Please have the decency to tell your little friend to knock the shit off and stop hounding me on this forum.
#24. To: abraxas, Lod, all (#20)
#25. To: abraxas (#20)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#26. To: titorite (#23)
Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: FormerLurker (#25)
And BTW, he's not interested in "bickering in PM", his main objective is to trash discussions, hurl accusations, lie, tap dance, act the victim, and lie some more.
#28. To: FormerLurker (#21)
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nd if you DON'T care about someone here on forum pretending to be a "good guy"
#29. To: titorite (#27)
Fucking shit man, are you on speed?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: abraxas (#28)
Loddy doesn't have any thing about you in his tagline.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: abraxas (#28)
It is a fair estimate that 50% of all frickin posters on forums are pretending to be "good gudys" and "thin girls"..........
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#32. To: FormerLurker (#30)
#33. To: Esso (#31)
And ~100% profess to a 180+ IQ.
#34. To: Esso (#31)
And ~100% profess to a 180+ IQ.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: FormerLurker (#17)
Point being is this: if we are scared to talk about doing something then nothing will get done and things will only get worse.
#36. To: titorite (#32)
(Edited)
BUT THE MOMENT SOMEONE DISHES IT BACK TO YOU IT'S BOO HOO HOO..
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: FormerLurker (#34)
#38. To: titorite (#37)
PM jerkwad. I answered. You reply, we let them have a break
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: FormerLurker (#38)
DO AS I COMMAND OR I WILL CONTINUE TO THROW A PUBLIC TANTRUM
#40. To: PSUSA2 (#35)
And there we have it. He's inciting people into committing criminal acts. First he is an admitted felon, he wants to possess a firearm (another felony), and there's this incitement.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#41. To: FormerLurker (#30)
I wasn't talking about Lod, I was talking about titorite. Didn't you notice?
#42. To: titorite, christine, Lod, All, RickyJ, SKYDRIFTER, Fred Mertz, Original_Intent, abraxas, Katniss, ALL (#39)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#43. To: abraxas, Lod (#41)
The posts I responded to were yours to Loddy. Didn't you notice?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#44. To: Esso (#31)
And ~100% profess to a 180+ IQ.
#45. To: abraxas (#28)
Loddy doesn't have any thing about you in his tagline.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#46. To: abraxas (#44)
Ah yes, the oft mistaken MENSTRUAL cycle for MENSA. : )
-Alex Kurtagic
#47. To: FormerLurker (#45)
Bozo me if it bothers you that much. I don't mind. In fact I suspect several of our friends and fellow members have to bozo us both from time to time. A winning strategy on your part in the short term but in the long run truth beats all. So is your boss riding your ass to make this happen? or what?
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#48. To: X-15 (#46)
Me you and booze. We gotta do that some day. 136 representing and testosterone to spare!!! :)
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#49. To: titorite (#47)
Get my name out of your tagline you little faggot. Bozo me if it bothers you that much.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: FormerLurker (#49)
Get James Hansons name out of your tagline you big meanie.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#51. To: abraxas (#44)
I'm squirting this all over this thread: 
-Alex Kurtagic
#52. To: X-15 (#51)
LOL.....You have saved the day, the thread, perhaps the entire...gasp...forum! : ) I'm squirting this all over this thread:
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#53. To: titorite (#50)
Sure thing. Get James Hansons name out of your tagline you big meanie.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#54. To: X-15 (#51)
LOL, perhaps it can be used on man tits... titboy might be able to use some.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#55. To: FormerLurker (#53)
Good job. Now don't you feel better. I know I believe in the 2nd amendment right to bear arms and personal defense. But hey if you hate the constitution and rights enumerated therein all I can say is please hold your breath till the constitution gets amended to your liking. Sure thing.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#56. To: titorite (#55)
Then if you value the liberty and freedom of others perhaps you shouldn't be trying to entice them into committing a federal offence for which they'd lose their ability to legally possess a firearm for the rest of their days on earth. It's odd that you don't seem to care much about such things. I know I believe in the 2nd amendment right to bear arms and personal defense.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#57. To: FormerLurker, X-15 (#54)
You have no idea how much my but really hurts. I wasn't gonna talk about it but I loled hard upon seeing the pic and wished for some of that cream in my palm. I could soooo use some of that but hurt cream. Maybe some aquaphore.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#58. To: titorite (#57)
And a shot of whisky on the rocks!!
-Alex Kurtagic
#59. To: titorite (#57)
I'm sure you could, especially before your handler has his way with you for screwing up so badly here today. I could soooo use some of that but hurt cream.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#60. To: FormerLurker (#56) (Edited)
What the fuck are you talking about Meth head? I did not entice anyone. I got no response. People may of thought I was jesting... meh doesn't matter. now that you feel a bit better lurker the liar, can we do the 4um a solid and take this to the PMs like good boys and girls.... Or is that against your office rules? BTW this is my day off. Whats your excuse? Please tell me in PM. Then if you value the liberty and freedom of others perhaps you shouldn't be trying to entice them into committing a federal offence for which they'd lose their ability to legally possess a firearm for the rest of their days on earth.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#61. To: titorite (#60)
But you were HOPING you'd reel in a few suckers weren't you. You wouldn't have been asking around otherwise. I did not entice anyone. I got no response.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#62. To: FormerLurker (#61) (Edited)
PM private messages. They have asked us, I have sent you a few messages, you sent me a few messages back.. come on man, lets us give them a break and go continue this in private?.. And I was actually doing article research. MY PM box is still empty.... I'm waiting for your next volley of words. But you were HOPING you'd reel in a few suckers weren't you. You wouldn't have been asking around otherwise.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#63. To: titorite (#62)
Screw off shill. You want war, you have it.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#64. To: FormerLurker (#63)
Nooo I want to oblige the people that asked us to take this private... especially since we both seem hell bent on having the last word... For you it maybe a matter of money... for me a matter of pride. Are you wanting to keep this public now because of what I asked about your boss standing over your shoulder? Would that of been a better question to ask you in PM? Screw off shill. You want war, you have it.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#65. To: FormerLurker (#40) (Edited)
I wonder what sort of lies he's been posting to them in PM, and how gullible they are... I bet he's been PM'ing a storm, hoping against hope that it goes unnoticed that he is an admitted criminal, an admitted felon, looking to buy a firearm. And trying to incite people into committing a violent act in order to make a statement on how much of a patriot they are. And the ones that want you to take it to PM are, I bet, peripherally involved in his criminal enterprise. People I never would have suspected. They do NOT want this out in the open, You really rattled some cages. You really did. And now it's coming out. It's all in who introduced person X to person Y, calling him a regular guy when he is a felon in search of people to entrap by providing him with a firearm. And who is friends on facebook, etc. The ones that don't care are the ones that probably have an investment to protect. This has been an enlightening past few days. It looks like somebody let this get away from them, by ignoring the issue. Apparently people don't care.
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#66. To: titorite (#64)
You have my answer in PM. Remove the tag line and I'll think about changing mine. Now stop posting on this thread if you're so concerned about "disturbing other people". My boss? You don't know ANYTHING about me, and that's the way I'd like to keep it. There's a VERY good reason I haven't posted any personal info in PM to ANYONE, as there's always a chance that person isn't who I thought she/he was. You on the other hand go out of your way to contact people here and get the lowdown on them.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#67. To: PSUSA2 (#65)
Yes it has. This has been an enlightening past few days.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#68. To: FormerLurker (#66)
I have no problem what so ever with your signature. And I do give out my info to those I trust... I extend my trust.. sometimes it is broken Like when you broke my trust showing yourself to be an office of an agent rather than a real human being . BUt I still give out my trust. It is the only way to have friends. So about my Jew question... you never answered me in PM... you just said "fuck off" Do you support the notion that Jews are gods chosen master race? Remove the tag line and I'll think about changing mine.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#69. To: titorite (#68)
No, but YOU obviously do. What religion are YOU again? Do you support the notion that Jews are gods chosen master race?
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#70. To: titorite (#68)
Nice drama you little girl. Do you act that way in real life, or do you just do it here for show? Like when you broke my trust showing yourself to be an office of an agent rather than a real human being .
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#71. To: FormerLurker (#70)
I didn't think it was all that dramatic. Nothing on par with what you have treated us all to Lurker. The Liar. Nice drama you little girl. Do you act that way in real life, or do you just do it here for show?
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#72. To: titorite (#71)
Uh huh. Anyone who cares can go back and see how you've behaved on several threads recently. As I said there, POINT OUT ANY post I've made where I've lied. You ARE a liar, and unless you can post a link to where I've lied, where you've accused me of ALL sorts of dastardly things which you've simply pulled out of your ass, it's VERY clear who the liar is here, and that person would be you. BTW, I thought you wanted to stop posting this bullshit here in order to avoid disturbing other people? Was THAT a lie too? Nothing on par with what you have treated us all to Lurker. The Liar.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#73. To: FormerLurker (#72)
WTF, you've lied several times in this thread alone Lurker the Liar.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message) there is not one convincing piece of this which indicates it was a false flag. -Former Lurker the liar on the Boston Bombing
#74. To: titorite (#73)
Where would THAT be slick? WTF, you've lied several times in this thread alone Lurker the Liar.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#75. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#11)
He's obviously a government plant. Well, if you consider his actions at The Jefferson Memorial laudable and "doing something for America" or anything other than an exercise in self promotion then you may be at risk of falling in with a cult. And, how convenient that at the exact moment he was urging others to fire up some smoke he refrained from demonstrating the strength of his convictions. You should stay away from him. You may be trampled if you get between him and a news camera. I'm sorry if this offends you but you clearly implied that Adam's actions are above reproach then wrapped him in the flag as if everyone should just give him the benefit of any doubt. But, if I can't trust my own instincts then by what logic should I trust yours? You are absolutely right! Everyone knows that real patriots don't actually DO anything. They just bitch and moan on internet forums.
#76. To: FormerLurker (#19)
Yo, FL, you forgot to empty the trash cans on Friday. Don't worry I took care of them Saturday morning when I went to the office for a few hours. p.s. I've got the Suppress Taglines feature selected, so I don't see nor do I want to see the details which you mention. He's done everything from alleging me and Fred Mertz work out of the same office...
#77. To: Fred Mertz (#76)
Well I guess our secret is out then. I'll be sure to empty those cans next time Fred, thanks. Yo, FL, you forgot to empty the trash cans on Friday. Don't worry I took care of them Saturday morning when I went to the office for a few hours.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#78. To: abraxas, formerlurker, titorite, lod (#28)
best advice of the day. who honestly gives a shit about who posts what on a 4um with about 20 regular posters??? and for that matter, even if it had 4,000. im sure everyone has much more imortant things to worry about. for goodness sakes this fued between FL & titorite is beyond silly and miserable. I postred the St. Francis prayer, as a suggestion on behavior, last year. Apparently it didnt help. i'd suggest FL & titorite bozo each other, or, for those who dont like seeing all the nonsense, bozo both of them. I really don't put that much concern into strangers who post on the internet.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#79. To: Artisan, abraxas, Lod, PSUSA2, Original_Intent, SKYDRIFTER, 4um (#78)
Look at the view count of the threads in question. I don't know if you are one of those counted, but there's a LOT. freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...tNum=154772&SC=1&EC=40#C1 freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...tNum=154585&SC=1&EC=40#C1 And THIS thread has been getting a lot of hits as well. You have to ask yourself, do you give a shit at all if there's an infiltrator from a hostile agency here, who wishes to entrap people and send them off to prison for a VERY long time, or is everything all Unicorns and Fairies? best advice of the day. who honestly gives a shit about who posts what on a 4um with about 20 regular posters??? and for that matter, even if it had 4,000.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#80. To: Fred Mertz (#79)
Sorry Fred, I was busy at the office and forgot to ping you.
"I got a letter from the local sheriff saying he was gonna arrest my felon ass" - "I recently made my rounds all over the place asking about a liberator"" - titorite the COINTEL plant
#81. To: FormerLurker, abraxas, Lod, PSUSA2, Original_Intent, SKYDRIFTER, titorite, christine, wudidiz, greylmist, 4um (#79)
i wish my fellow 4um posters the best, but am not worried about that. I highly doubt that anyone here is even close to being so naive/gullible to be set up by any sort of agent. i think the dreadful fued between you & tirotite is a more of a personality squabble. more to the point, and dont know if i ever mentioned this to you, but i'm the one who told titorite to come to LP, many years ago. Later, he migrated here like most of us. (ive known him 'online' since probably the late 90s when we were on webtv political forums and after 9/11, there was only three of us who knew & promoted the truth about 9/11/01. he sent me 911 vhs tapes. i never got any spooks breaking down my door. yeah he's a 'felon' and used to be in trouble with the law. but then he grew up and had a wife & kids. he might be an obnoxious asshole in your or others view, but who cares. thats what bozo is for. as you know FL ive liked you & appreciated your presence here and elsewhere for many years, and i respect you. as mel gibson would say i dont have a dog in this fight, it's simply extremely obnoxious to keep seeing all the squabbling over the posts. i think you both need to grow up and get over it. You have to ask yourself, do you give a shit at all if there's an infiltrator from a hostile agency here, who wishes to entrap people and send them off to prison for a VERY long time, or is everything all Unicorns and Fairies?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#82. To: FormerLurker, Artisan (#79)
It seems that the average ratio of views to posts is around 10:1 This one has less. But there is a felon here looking for a firearms supplier. And, he is trying to get others to commit criminal acts other than selling him a liberator, all in the name of patriotism of course. We know that now. It's not so much that he's a felon. I dont know what he was convicted of. But to try and get others to break the law and become felons themselves, well, fuck him and the horse he rode in on. And THIS thread has been getting a lot of hits as well.
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#83. To: titorite, FormerLurker (#39)
Hey, if you really want to make it private then you should change your public tag line. I don't agree with Former Lurker about the Boston Marathon bombing but I think he is sincere in his beliefs and is not lying. He has some good points, but assumes the evil people who do these false flags think rationally like normal people do, they don't though. They really don't care if some know it was a false flag, I think they even want some people to think it was a false flag so they can prove once again to themselves that they can get away with obvious crimes in broad daylight if they control the main stream news about it. I think the first bomb probably wasn't real, but the second one probably was since the injuries from it do not seem fake. Anyway, I understand why he thinks what he thinks because it is not a very smart way to conduct a false flag event, but I think those behind these false flags are not very smart and rely too much on intimidation and the media to get away with their crimes. So far it has worked well for them, so I don't expect them to change their tactics. The next false flag event should have many clues before hand and after just like the Boston marathon bombings did.
God is always good!
#84. To: PSUSA2, titorite (#82)
the big scary jail man is coming to rape yer bum... lmao you and your tragically skewed version of life It's not so much that he's a felon. I dont know what he was convicted of. But to try and get others to break the law and become felons themselves
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#85. To: Artisan, PSUSA2 (#81)
I don't know if your friend USED to be a decent guy, but he's the one that came after me with mindless accusations and insults. That along with the fact he was acting JUST LIKE a shill where he'd ignore any logic or reason, along with the fact that his links said the opposite of what he claimed, and no matter HOW many different times that was pointed out to him, he'd continue on with his childish accusations. He refused to discuss anything in a civil manner, instead he'd bombard the thread with insults, accusations, lies, and then pretend HE was the victim for anyone watching the thread at that point in time. It was just too many things when seen together which indicated to me I wasn't dealing with someone who's here to discuss anything, rather I was dealing with someone who appears to be here to DISRUPT discussions. He then started dragging my name through the mud across the forum with his tag line, and refused to change it. I don't usually create spectacles here, but when someone starts slandering me across the forum just because he can get away with it, well I'm not just going to sit back and take it. The issues I raised on this thread are valid concerns, and it's not that I brought it to the attention of people here solely out of spite, but out of concern for their safety. If it quacks like a duck and acts like a duck, it probably IS a duck.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#86. To: RickyJ (#83)
In terms of the Boston bombing, like I asked on the other thread, why bother with actors when you can have the real thing? It'd be MUCH easier, cheaper, and would avoid involving hundreds of people or more, people who work for a living and have no motive to pretend blowing people up for the cameras.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#87. To: PSUSA2, Artisan (#82)
When I first read his "let's confiscate those bullets from DHS" thread I assumed he was just being super dumb, that he was just some mindless idiot who thought himself in a movie and that he could do the impossible. But after someone brought to my attenion the fact that he was hounding people in PM to make him a liberator, AFTER he had already alluded to his felony conviction, AND after dealing with his behavior on the forum where he was acting worse than yukon, it became apparent that it couldn't just be some very dumb yet innocent mistake. I don't enjoy tearing someone down, even if they deserve it. But I felt like I had no choice. It's not so much that he's a felon. I dont know what he was convicted of. But to try and get others to break the law and become felons themselves, well, fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#88. To: FormerLurker (#87)
He deserves every bit of it. I wonder what other forums he posts at, trying to get people to commit felonies. I bet this isn't the only one. lunaticoutpost.com/search...d66d292cc27d1745fd2a23680 There's one. Ban-Hammer dropped. Even something called "lunatic outpost" couldn't tolerate his shit.
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#89. To: Artisan, titorite, FormerLurker (#85)
He refused to discuss anything in a civil manner, instead he'd bombard the thread with insults, accusations, lies, and then pretend HE was the victim for anyone watching the thread at that point in time. It was just too many things when seen together which indicated to me I wasn't dealing with someone who's here to discuss anything, rather I was dealing with someone who appears to be here to DISRUPT discussions. It's embarrassing.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#90. To: FormerLurker (#80)
As you know I get every third Monday off, so that's the reason for my delayed response. Thanks for the ping. Sorry Fred, I was busy at the office and forgot to ping you.
#91. To: wudidiz, Artisan (#89)
It's embarrassing. Well it SHOULD be embarrassing for the both of you, but apparently you have no shame. Do you think you're the only person here that knows how to use the search feature? oh, the irony
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: Fred Mertz (#90)
No problem Fred, enjoy the day off. I've already taken the trash out today so you won't need to do it yourself when you get back to the office. As you know I get every third Monday off, so that's the reason for my delayed response. Thanks for the ping.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#93. To: FormerLurker (#86)
Because the people who do these false flags give away clues all the time that it is a false flag event. The one and only show of "The Lone Gunman" predicted 9/11 almost exactly like it happened that day. The Family Guy cartoon a month before the bombings had people getting killed at the finish line of the Boston marathon. They then show a guy dialing a number twice and a bomb going off each time. The first time, it was just the bomb noise, and no other noise, the second time it was the bomb noise and then people screaming. This seems to indicate the first bomb was not real and the second bomb was, just like the evidence seems to fit what actually happened that day. People that want to rule the world and kill billions in wars, do not think rationally. They do not take the easy way all the time, because they are not thinking clearly and for some reason want people to know they did it! They are proud of it even. In terms of the Boston bombing, like I asked on the other thread, why bother with actors when you can have the real thing? It'd be MUCH easier, cheaper, and would avoid involving hundreds of people or more, people who work for a living and have no motive to pretend blowing people up for the cameras.
God is always good!
#94. To: FormerLurker (#91)
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"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#95. To: All (#94)
It looks to me like someone might have planted something on Adam just before he was arrested. I have suspicions about Adam because of his threat to both Obama and Romney and nothing being done to him about that. However here it appears that someone is trying to set him up, so Adam may be the real deal. I hope he is and I hope that he is released soon.
God is always good!
#96. To: RickyJ (#93)
Ricky, don't you think the police, EMTs, hospital staff, bystanders, runners, etc., would have noticed if it was all "fake"?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#97. To: wudidiz (#94)
BOSTON: IRRESPONSIBLE, DISGUSTING CONSPIRACY THEORIES (#43) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2013-05-20 16:00:23 From: wudidiz To: FormerLurker 9 11 Fake Video Stars: The J Star Clones – Why Covert Operation’s Cointel Must Have ‘Fake’ Video and ‘No Planes’ (#437) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2013-05-20 15:54:18 From: wudidiz To: FormerLurker Boston Marathon: Federal Horror Movie By Ron Avery (#314) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2013-05-20 15:50:43 From: wudidiz To: FormerLurker Adam Kokesh of the DC gun protest ARRESTED for resisting arrest. (#94) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2013-05-20 15:49:14 From: wudidiz To: FormerLurker What are you a spambot? NH Rep. says Nashua worker Jeff Bauman “not in pain” when his legs were blown off at Marathon, later apologizes for offending anyone with comments (#79) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2013-05-20 16:03:01 From: wudidiz To: FormerLurker
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#98. To: wudidiz (#94)
Oh I see what you're doing, you're spamming the forum with videos and links to me to make it APPEAR you haven't been posting your typical bullshit lies and accusations at me. Must be because I posted a search link of your posts to me back on post 91 of this thread.. Well little man, the history is there no matter what you do. Go ahead and spam to your heart's content.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#99. To: PSUSA2 (#88)
That in and of itself doesn't mean much since a lot of us have been banned from other forums as well. However, seeing how he acts HERE makes one wonder how badly he behaved at those other forums. There's one. Ban-Hammer dropped. Even something called "lunatic outpost" couldn't tolerate his shit.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#100. To: FormerLurker (#96) (Edited)
I am sure some of them did realize it was fake. What are they going to do about it though? Tell the press who will ignore them? Make themselves a target of these people who have no problem killing innocent people? I don't think so. If the pictures are legit of Jeff then I and many others realize it was fake. But since I wasn't there they just call me a nut for calling them on it. People that did witness it that weren't in on it were probably identified and told to keep quiet, that a police investigation was going on about it behind the scenes and their lives could be in danger if they told what they saw. Ricky, don't you think the police, EMTs, hospital staff, bystanders, runners, etc., would have noticed if it was all "fake"?
God is always good!
#101. To: RickyJ (#100) (Edited)
Welcome to our world asshole. :) yeah that is meant playfully
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#102. To: RickyJ (#100)
What do you think they'd do, ignore it? Sure cops can oftentimes be dicks, but I don't think they'd ignore evidence of a bunch of people FAKING being blown up. Do you think the EMTs would not have noticed if people weren't really injured, or that the truama teams at the hospitals wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between a real injury or a fake one? And what of the dead, are they faking it too? I am sure some of them did realize it was fake. What are they going to do about it though?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#103. To: all (#102)
What of the children? Wont somebody please think about the children?
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#104. To: titorite (#101)
I have always thought 9/11 was a false flag even on 9/11/2001. I didn't think they actually did it themselves though until 2003, I just thought they let it happen. I have given serious consideration to the no plane theory, and I still don't think it is correct. I am not saying 100% it is wrong though, maybe 99%. It is much easier to keep a limited number of identifiable people quiet than thousands of people you have no way of identifying. Too many people would have saw no plane hit the towers, so faking that was not really practical or necessary.
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#105. To: FormerLurker (#102) (Edited)
I never said some people didn't really get hurt, and some die. I said I think the second bomb was real and the first was fake. Not many EMTs or cops had to be in on it for this to work. There was after all a bomb drill going on that day, they probably were instructed this was just part of the drill. And what of the dead, are they faking it too?
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#106. To: RickyJ (#104) (Edited)
I dont want to talk about that subject with you . especially in this thread. I is nursing a but hurt. Still waiting for x-15s cream to kick in.
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#107. To: titorite (#106)
Nice video, but that is not the topic of this thread either, it is suppose to be about Adam Kokesh being arrested.
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#108. To: RickyJ (#107)
you see what I mean then? I'm all upside down.
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#109. To: titorite (#108)
Please help me, I think there's something wrong with my brain.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#110. To: Dakmar (#109)
Funny.
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#111. To: RickyJ (#105)
I said I think the second bomb was real and the first was fake. Why use a fake one if they were already using a real one? There was after all a bomb drill going on that day, they probably were instructed this was just part of the drill. Don't you think they would have figured it out pretty quickly? I mean at least half the Boston police force probably showed up, and there were a LOT of EMTs as well.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#112. To: FormerLurker (#111)
I don't know, you will have to ask them that. All I know is that Jeff should have been a dead man before they even got him to the hospital, yet the guy is out of the hospital just a mere two weeks later at a hockey game energetically waving a flag looking in excellent condition besides missing his lower legs. Why use a fake one if they were already using a real one?
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#113. To: RickyJ (#112)
I know your story revolves around the idea that Jeff Bauman is somehow indispensible to the grand scheme of the attack. Could you explain that to me?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#114. To: RickyJ (#112)
It doesn't make one bit of sense why they'd use one real bomb and one fake one. I can see one or the other, but not both. In fact it makes zero sense why they'd use a fake bomb and fake victims in the first place. You have to remember that this was a widely popular yearly event which is televised live around the world. ANYONE could have been at either location, that of the first and the second explosions. There was no way to control who was there. Don't you think people would have noticed if all of a sudden they were still standing and people next to them were stripping down, removing clothes, taking limbs off, stuff like that? I don't know, you will have to ask them that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#115. To: FormerLurker (#114) (Edited)
I just noticed something odd about the arrest of Adam Kokesh. They took him away without cuffing him first. They made sure they cuffed the other speaker before taking him away, but not with Adam, they just took him away without the cuffs on. Isn't that against protocol when they arrest someone? ----- About the Boston bombings, I really don't know why or even what they did, I am just going off of the pictures and video of Jeff which makes me highly suspicious that he didn't just lose his legs there. Also in that shootout with the police, eyewitnesses have said the shootout was one way, the brothers were reportedly not shooting at the police, and they only had one gun. Also they reportedly said, "chill out guys, we didn't do it!" This might even be on some of the recorded video of that night. Edit to add video ---- You can hear someone yelling "chill out, chill out" and then later on "we didn't do it."
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#116. To: titorite (#23)
Please remove the tag about FL. I'm with abraxas and Lod on this one. I'm tired of the public feud. Please avail yourself of the private mail. I've tried to mediate more than a couple of times, but it hasn't done any good.
#117. To: christine (#116) (Edited)
I already did that like hours ago... (yesterday)
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#118. To: RickyJ (#115)
I'd be more interested in that part of the story, as there ARE witnesses reporting irregularities there. Also in that shootout with the police, eyewitnesses have said the shootout was one way, the brothers were reportedly not shooting at the police, and they only had one gun. Also they reportedly said, "chill out guys, we didn't do it!"
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#119. To: FormerLurker (#118)
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"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#120. To: HOUNDDAWG (#75) (Edited)
I mentioned nothing about his actions at the Jefferson Memorial, nor did the article. That is something you pulled out of your ass. I don't even know what you are talking about nor do I care. I will support anyone willing to march on DC over our second amendment rights. I could care less if he is doing it for self-promotion if it furthers the cause of gun rights. You should stay away from him. You may be trampled if you get between him and a news camera. I am no where near him. I'm sorry if this offends you but you clearly implied that Adam's actions are above reproach then wrapped him in the flag as if everyone should just give him the benefit of any doubt. I have implied nothing. You read what you wanted to read out of my words. As anyone here can tell you, I don't imply things. If I have something to say then I outright say it, which I did. As for wrapping him in the flag, I consider marching on DC in support of our second amendment rights to be a patriotic act. You consider it to be proof he's a government plant. We'll have to agree to disagree. Well, if you consider his actions at The Jefferson Memorial laudable and "doing something for America" or anything other than an exercise in self promotion then you may be at risk of falling in with a cult.
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#121. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#120)
You seem to be taking my post awfully personally, especially since you didn't start this thread and my post wasn't directed to you or anyone in particular. And, here's a self improvement tip for you. If you want to do a point by point rebuttal you shouldn't skip over the relevant points and reply to that which requires no response. That only makes you appear angry but too impotent to react. The fact that Adam is repeating the actions of a govt shill (Frank Collin) is obvious, especially since he suspiciously failed to "light up" as he encouraged others to do. That is pure govt theater as was his arrest.
#122. To: HOUNDDAWG (#121) (Edited)
I find it hard to believe that you are saying that your post wasn't directed at me. Not only did you address it to me, you quoted me. And, here's a self improvement tip for you. If you want to do a point by point rebuttal you shouldn't skip over the relevant points and reply to that which requires no response. I did not do a point by point rebuttal to your post. I picked what I thought was relative and replied to it. You do not get to choose what is relative to me. The fact that Adam is repeating the actions of a govt shill (Frank Collin) is obvious, especially since he suspiciously failed to "light up" as he encouraged others to do. That is pure govt theater as was his arrest. The idea that you have to be a pot head to support drug legalization is ludicrous. I haven't smoked pot or partaken in any illegal drug in 25 or 30 years yet I support legalization of all drugs 100%. If there were a local gathering of this type in my neck of the woods I would go and show my support without "lighting up" as well and would have no problem encouraging those who do partake to smoke 'em if they got 'em. Not because I'm a government plant but because I support their right to do so. The drug war won't be won until there are more people at these gatherings who aren't "lighting up" than there are people who are. From what I've read, Kokesh is a political activist with libertarian leanings, if not an outright libertarian. Why wouldn't he show up and support a mainstream libertarian cause? If you don't like the guy and think he's a government plant, that's fine by me but I do not find your reasoning convincing. You seem to be taking my post awfully personally, especially since you didn't start this thread and my post wasn't directed to you or anyone in particular.
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#123. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#122)
Your last rant makes clear to any objective reader that your intent was to rebuke and punish me for daring to write something with which you disagree. And since we were not dialoguing at the time your magnanimous comment, "agree to disagree" was entirely improper. What meaningful points had you written then that I could have possibly disagreed with? You seem to believe that it's obvious why Adam's agenda can't possibly be suspect, and in the process you've wasted valuable bandwidth that you could have used to explain why his motives should not be questioned. In fact, give us one reason if you can. (You can't) Here's a point for you to consider. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE "DOES SOMETHING" (legit activists "do something" as do govt shills) proves nothing, which means it was a pointless thing to write. I certainly didn't use that to justify my suspicions of him, and you're obviously not savvy enough to put words in my mouth) IT WAS BEFITTING A SCHOOL KID WITH NO DEBATE SKILLS OR MATURE LOGIC AT HIS DISPOSAL. Please don't write it a third time. Now, if you like I'll PM all of my future posts on this subject for your approval, and remove anything that you feel I'm not entitled to believe or share. Would that be okay? This is a reasonable offer considering you entered the fray despite the fact that no one mentioned or flagged you, then attempted to browbeat me into silence. Every controversial individual or group (Hal Turner, Scientology, Alex Jones) has groupies and cult followers who defend them, and always with insults intended to deny others the sheer pleasure of having expressed opinions. And sadly, since you offered no meaningful response to my post except for a group of trees in which all activists and shills alike may seek shared cover, that description of shill apologist fits you like a glove. The meaningless point that anybody who does anything is a govt plant is simply not up to the task of an insightful, witty or disarming response to what I wrote. There are two reasons for that. First, if we look at your response another way there is absolute truth in it. And that is this: Every govt plant that does things to get headlines or news coverage does so to further the govt's agenda. Now, if your TV has a running banner at the bottom of the screen that explains who the legit and phony news seekers are then you are indeed better informed that me. Ergo, the fact that Adam "does something" does not by his actions alone vindicate him as a suspect. Secret Agent Adam's publicity stunt was to lead a smoke in where he encouraged those in attendance to break the law and light up. Those who did were subject to felony arrest and conviction and the forfeiture of their right to own guns, to vote and to hold a US Passport. Adam wasn't holding and he didn't light up. If he "doesn't smoke" then there was nothing stopping him from possessing a branch of industrial hemp to show solidarity with those he bravely offered to sacrifice to the govt's big life destroying machine. ("Yeah, ya'll jump into the govt's shark pool and I'll be here with the towels when you dry off!") He'll use this stunt as an excuse to drop his armed march on DC. He knew he'd be subject to arrest when he announced it and now that he knows it's a definite consequence (and he won't have the safety of millions of armed Americans around him-his announcement resulted in people telling him that he's stupid and that they won't be there) and he can't very well lead the march without having guns on him so he has to cancel the march or to be otherwise unavailable to participate.. ("Oh, I don't own any guns or smoke reefer, BUT I'M DEFENDING THE RIGHTS OF GUN OWNERS AND MARIJUANA SMOKERS AT GREAT PERSONAL RISK!" I do like to dance at the Jefferson Memorial, though. Fortunately, that's only a misdemeanor! Whew!) HAH! This last stunt was a smokescreen, a chickenshit event to serve as a substitute. He can't admit that he's not really willing to risk prison the way real activists have always done. That simple fact alone is all anyone needs to know to permanently ignore him. I wouldn't incite others to break the law unless I was willing to risk the same penalties. So far he's bravely risked misdemeanor charges in two of his outings. (Opting out of felony charges on the second while actually encouraging everyone else to risk ruining their own lives to further his name recognition. Only a coward of the lowest order would do that to another human being, even those foolish enough to follow him. So once again: Don't all activists and govt shills alike "do something", such as the things Adam did? Does "doing something" automatically establish credentials in your mind that Adam is a legit activist? If so then why? If not then why not? That leaves the one fact that is unique in all of this: Adam's failure to "light up" or even have contraband in his possession clearly proves that he was not willing to risk the very same peril to which he exposed others. He in effect said, "Those who have dope should light up and thumb your noses as the govt's laws! Let them know who you are and dare them to arrest you!" Adam was not holding, and I'm quite certain he could have bummed a tater from someone if he wanted to walk the walk instead of talk the talk. Question: Why didn't he risk the same life crumbling felony charges that he urged others to risk? Is it possible that he had an agreement with the govt not to arrest anyone but him, since it was really all about providing him with some (plausible in the minds of silly groupies) excuse to cancel the armed march on DC? If the rising smoke was any indication only a select few actually followed the Judas Goat into the slaughter chute. The ratio of smokers to those who hadn't been suckered by Agent Adam was roughly the same as you'd find in any group of silly people who join cults or follow false prophets into suicide pacts, etc.,. Judas Goat. Look it up.
#124. To: HOUNDDAWG (#123)
Rebuke and punish? Hardly. It was a sarcastic response to what I considered to be a paranoid rant. And since we were not dialoguing at the time your magnanimous comment, "agree to disagree" was entirely improper. There was nothing improper about it. I made my first post to you in post #11. You responded to me in post #75. That began the dialogue. My agree to disagree comment was made in post #120 in response to your post #75. You believe Kokesh is a Frank Collin-type government agent. I did not and do not believe that, therefore, once again, we will have to agree to disagree. You seem to believe that it's obvious why Adam's agenda can't possibly be suspect, and in the process you've wasted valuable bandwidth that you could have used to explain why his motives should not be questioned. In fact, give us one reason if you can. (You can't) As I said before to someone else on this thread. You and people like you are why the so-called patriot movement will go absolutely no where. The minute someone does something other than run their mouth, they are accused of being government agents for the simple fact of having done something more than run their mouth. So Kokesh didn't handle the situation like you did. BFD. That doesn't make him a government agent or plant. And by the way, you didn't question his motives. You outright called him a government agent with zero proof. That is your right, of course, but don't get butt-hurt when others don't buy into your theories. Here's a point for you to consider. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE "DOES SOMETHING" (legit activists "do something" as do govt shills) proves nothing, which means it was a pointless thing to write. I certainly didn't use that to justify my suspicions of him, and you're obviously not savvy enough to put words in my mouth) IT WAS BEFITTING A SCHOOL KID WITH NO DEBATE SKILLS OR MATURE LOGIC AT HIS DISPOSAL. Please don't write it a third time. And here's a point for you to consider. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING IN A WAY YOU WOULDN'T DOESN'T MAKE HIM A GOVERNMENT SHILL. This is a reasonable offer considering you entered the fray despite the fact that no one mentioned or flagged you, then attempted to browbeat me into silence. My, my, how thin-skinned you are. Someone doesn't buy into your theory and speaks out and you think you are being "browbeat." Ludicrous. Every controversial individual or group (Hal Turner, Scientology, Alex Jones) has groupies and cult followers who defend them, and always with insults intended to deny others the sheer pleasure of having expressed opinions. And sadly, since you offered no meaningful response to my post except for a group of trees in which all activists and shills alike may seek shared cover, that description of shill apologist fits you like a glove. Considering I've never even heard of the guy until this thread, you would be hard pressed to call me a groupie or shill apologist. Not buying into your "he's a government agent because he didn't behave the way I think he should have behaved" does not fit the definition of either being a groupie or a shill apologist. Secret Agent Adam's publicity stunt was to lead a smoke in where he encouraged those in attendance to break the law and light up. Those who did were subject to felony arrest and conviction and the forfeiture of their right to own guns, to vote and to hold a US Passport. Adam wasn't holding and he didn't light up. If he "doesn't smoke" then there was nothing stopping him from possessing a branch of industrial hemp to show solidarity with those he bravely offered to sacrifice to the govt's big life destroying machine. ("Yeah, ya'll jump into the govt's shark pool and I'll be here with the towels when you dry off!") I disagree with you that doing this proves anything. Had this rally been in my neck of the woods I would have went to show my support. However, I would not have lit up and I would not have been holding. Just because I support their right to smoke pot doesn't mean I'm willing to go to jail over it nor should I be expected to. He'll use this stunt as an excuse to drop his armed march on DC. He knew he'd be subject to arrest when he announced it and now that he knows it's a definite consequence (and he won't have the safety of millions of armed Americans around him-his announcement resulted in people telling him that he's stupid and that they won't be there) and he can't very well lead the march without having guns on him so he has to cancel the march or to be otherwise unavailable to participate.. ...This last stunt was a smokescreen, a chickenshit event to serve as a substitute. He can't admit that he's not really willing to risk prison the way real activists have always done. That simple fact alone is all anyone needs to know to permanently ignore him. That's the first thing you've said on this whole thread that makes sense. You make some good points. After looking at his Wikipedia and looking around the web, I come to a different conclusion about the guy than you do. You see government agent written all over him. I see a guy who is trying to get into politics. I think he wants to be a politician and is trying to dance on both sides of the head of the needle - be controversial in order to gather the votes of both young voters and gun rights activists without getting into any real trouble which night harm his aspirations. I hope we are both wrong and that he will go ahead with the march and that he is not manipulating his supporters in order to further his political aspirations. Your last rant makes clear to any objective reader that your intent was to rebuke and punish me for daring to write something with which you disagree.
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#125. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#124) (Edited)
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#126. To: Larken Rose on the Kokesh March (#125)
#127. To: All (#126)
Adam Kokesh Resurfaces on Fox News to Discuss the DC July 4th March
#128. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#124)
When his antics end up as case law that only furthers the govt's agenda, no further proof is needed. He doesn't even have to be conscious of the damage he does any more than Sirhan or any Manchurian Candidate is aware of their utility. If he accomplishes anything other than adverse court decisions you be sure to let me know. Okay, Mr. "I'm no groupie" F.A. Hayak Fan? These clusters of AR15 shootings serve a govt agenda, too, in case you didn't know. How do they program these sickos? I don't know. But it's more than fortuitous that they occurred just as the big push to disarm Americans is peaking in Washington. And, as far as "people like me" being the reason that the "Patriot Movement" never goes anywhere, where have you been for the past 30 years? Activist groups realized decades ago that organized resistance is pointless because of infiltrators, agitators and agents provocateur. And, the guy who leads the "movement" to "dance at The Jefferson Memorial" when there is absolutely nothing but publicity to be gained deserves nothing but scorn for his silly and self serving political short game. And those who defend him as if he's the hope for America "but not for me" are just plain stupid. Now, I've been patient with you because you're obviously not aware of the purpose or desirable consequences of activism. But you have no excuse to hump my leg again unless you're willing to tell us all just what the Hell the idiot you're defending hopes to accomplish. And, by your own admission you wouldn't have been holding at the reefa rally. Then, pray tell, why are you defending someone who hypocritically urged others to do so? I mean, you can't be that monumentally silly, can you? "I'll defend Adam until my fingers bleed on 4um. BUT, I won't follow his direction to light up in public. What am I, stupid?"You outright called him a government agent with zero proof.
#129. To: HOUNDDAWG (#128)
Pointless my ass. I disagree. SO very much. When I tried to organize an anarchist union here I was prepared for fakers. It is a given. That does not mean you do not make the effort. One does not fail to commit heart and soul just because of a little fear about benedict arnold. "f" that. Their is nothing illegal about open carry constitutionally. If we can not open carry in the capitol of our nation then FUCK THIS NATION!!!!! Activist groups realized decades ago that organized resistance is pointless because of infiltrators, agitators and agents provocateur.
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#130. To: titorite (#129)
You wrote in the past tense. How's that anarchist union doing, by the way? And, open carry in eastern cities where sensibilities are offended by the mere presence of firearms will have the same result again and again. As soon as some old pawnbroker clutches his chest and says, "I thought the Nazis were coming for me again!" you'll be convicted of disturbing the peace and resisting arrest if you're lucky, and you'll spend thousands on lawyers who will take your money and make no serious efforts to get your firearm returned. Every bad gun law we have in The US was passed by bipartisan efforts. You have no political support from either of the ruling dynasties for your efforts. Good luck trying to plow concrete to plant your pro gun crops. If you want to futilely toss yourself into the political gears in the hope of clogging the machine then you should tell prospective members that. You shouldn't sucker people in with the false hope of forming an anarchist union, pro open carry gun movement or anything else unless you subscribe to full disclosure of your lemming tendencies. When I tried to organize an anarchist union here I was prepared for fakers.
#131. To: HOUNDDAWG (#128)
You win.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown
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Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
#132. To: HOUNDDAWG (#130) (Edited)
How's that anarchist union doing, by the way? IT was a "never was" sort of thing. I pasted flyers all over town , invited friends, even promoted myself on the radio when and where a dj would let me. In the end, on that special day only the man showed up.... one under cover parked and watched me for my miserable day of hoisting the black flag all by my lonesome. It sucked. But I was willing then and I am now. It is a matter of principle. The law clearly and in no unclear terms says we have the right to bear arms. Now, if that is a bullshit lie then someone needs to go out there and show the world that it is a bullshit lie. Principle. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon. I don't think it is unreasonable in any way shape or form. You wrote in the past tense.
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#133. To: titorite, F.A. Hayek Fan (#132) (Edited)
Actually, it reads that "Shall not be infringed" (By congress) but at the time of ratification there was no court decision that "required states to guarantee a republican form of govt interpretation" to mean what you believe it now means. And, in fact several states such as NY and NJ don't even attempt to comply and the feds take no action to force their compliance. If there was an issue that I believed was "settled once and for all", it was the Miranda Warning. But, Bush appointees and a conservo majority have demonstrated that we have no absolute rights that are beyond the govt's ability to deprive us of them. Also, the concealed weapons laws in effect then were not immediately overturned by ratification. Why not, I wonder? As the man said, the constitution either created the present tyrannical govt or failed to prevent it. Either way, the constitution is all but dead and it will do you no good to raise it in your defense, especially in a state court. (Where you may want to use the state constitution instead) And LOOKY LOOKY HERE AT THE BIG BANNER HEADLINE AT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.com! THE US GOVERNMENT AGENDA BEHIND KOKESH'S ARMED MARCHES (AND ALL THE SHILLS PUSHING IT) IS TO CREATE A TINY "REVOLUTION" THAT CAN BE BRUTALLY CRUSHED TO DETER A GENERAL UPRISING BY THE ENTIRE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD NOT HOPE TO CONTROL. The only way that we can undermine the potential government propaganda value of Kokesh's stunt is if a million gun-owners and Second Amendment supporters sign this petition to make it clear Adam Kokesh does not speak or act for the majority of American gun owners. CLICK HERE TO SIGN THE PETITION (You can choose to NOT have your name shown in the signature list! Also, here are some bumper stickers to print and use. ______________________________________________________ Wow, you two must feel really stoopid by now, huh? Activists that put their money where their mouths are can see right through Adam's Little Kiddie Gun Owners' Theater Show. No, this country will not be saved by people who think that threatening Natalie Maines with death for speaking heretical views or haranguing their fellow Americans is the way to bring about justice. The law clearly and in no unclear terms says we have the right to bear arms.
#134. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
It is impolite to call us stupid. You were not called stupid over your opinion.
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#135. To: All, Post of the week (#134)
It is impolite to call us stupid.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#136. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
You know what animal I dislike? Parrots.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#137. To: titorite (#136)
People who don't like parrots "just ain't right."
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#138. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
Must we? I don't feel stupid in the least and see no reason why I should just because my opinion differs from yours that Kokesh is a government plant. You have made some good points about his character, which I acknowledged. The fact that Kokesh announced today the cancellation of the march even strengthens your critique. Having said that, you have failed to offer any proof that Kokesh is anything other than a publicity seeker trying to get into politics. You have only provided conjecture that he is a government plant, and not even convincing conjecture at that. Posting a link to a webpage that agrees with your opinion does not constitute proof. Christine posted a video of Larkin Rose. While he disagreed with Kokesh's march, Rose said he knew him personally and in no way did he give any indication that he thought Kokesh was a government plant. On the contrary, Rose spoke fondly of him and appeared to think him genuine even though he disagreed with the march. I've said all I am going to say on the matter. After receiving your e-mail I decided to drop the issue because I came to the conclusion that you were right concerning there being no reason to alienate. Even when you made another comment I was conciliatory and said you win. Feel free to try and badger me by making comments like you did above, but I am done. You have your opinion. I have mine. We do not agree and that's that. Wow, you two must feel really stoopid by now, huh?
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown
I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
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