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Title: Armed march on Washington DC likely to take place during a constitutional convention
Source: From the Trenches
URL Source: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldrepo ... onstitutional-convention/44769
Published: May 20, 2013
Author: Jim Stone
Post Date: 2013-05-20 21:39:07 by Buzzard
Keywords: None
Views: 237
Comments: 15

Adam Kokesh, a trojan horse “gun rights supporter” is doing what it takes at EXACTLY the right time to get guns banned once and for all.

Due to difficulties I am experiencing with posting this at this time, I am just going to cut to the chase – Adam Kokesh is a Jew. Jews are FAMOUS for faking movements that produce the opposite of what they pretend to ask for. Jews want guns banned and taken out of non Jewish hands. It is as simple as that.

Enter Kokesh – Many of you probably do not know that 31 out of a required 34 state governors are already on board for a constitutional convention which, if it is declared, can allow THEM to lawfully trash the ENTIRE constitution.

If you want a gun ban, just throw the constitution away and replace it with something else, which a constitutional convention will lawfully allow and it will all be constitutional. It takes only a little gray matter to see that at this time the enemy is running our government, and that is the last time you would ever want a constitutional convention to occur, because it will allow the enemy to re write the whole thing. If you want to provide plausible grounds for trashing the second amendment just time an armed march on Washington DC to happen, right when that constitutional convention is in progress.

I will do a much improved version of this report tomorrow now that I have thrown this thought into the collective concience, but for now I am under attack, including live edits of my work, air time deletes so I have to start from scratch, and multiple windows opening without being asked, enough to lock up the computer and I simply cannot do better than this.

GET THIS IDEA OUT INTO THE COLLECTIVE CONCIENCE, WE CANNOT ALLOW A SCAMMING TROJAN HORSE TO BAMBOOZLE AN ARMED MOB OF IDIOTS INTO MARCHING ON WASHINGTON DURING A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION WHICH IS ALMOST DELCARED AND LIKELY TO BE HAPPENING AT THAT TIME.

If you wanted to cause a band of brainless fools to kiss America goodbye, THAT would be a great way to do it.


Poster Comment:

Many of you probably do not know that 31 out of a required 34 state governors are already on board for a constitutional convention

I'm not familiar with this author, nor am I able to substantiate the above claim. But

Adam Kokesh is a Jew. Jews are FAMOUS for faking movements that produce the opposite of what they pretend to ask for. Jews want guns banned and taken out of non Jewish hands. It is as simple as that.

that comment, IMO, made this blog worth posting here.

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#1. To: Buzzard (#0) (Edited)

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What is illegal about open carry in any state or territory in the union?

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-20   21:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Buzzard (#0)

Adam Kokesh, a trojan horse “gun rights supporter” is doing what it takes at EXACTLY the right time to get guns banned once and for all.

There is no way a gun ban will happen without a revolt taking place. Believe me, many gun owners are serious when they say you will get their guns when you pry them from their cold dead hands. They might think they can handle the millions of gun owners in this country, but I sincerely doubt they can. They can't even handle a war very well against cave dwellers in Afghanistan, they will never be able to handle Americans.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-20   21:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Buzzard (#0)

Armed march on Washington DC likely to take place during a constitutional convention

I wasn't aware they had a con-con scheduled for the 4th of July.

“I believe that there will ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those who do the oppressing. I believe that there will be a clash between those who want freedom, justice, and equality for everyone and those who want to continue the system of exploitation. I believe that there will be that kind of clash, but I don’t think it will be based on the color of the skin…” -Malcolm X

Southern Style  posted on  2013-05-20   22:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Southern Style (#3)

I wasn't aware they had a con-con scheduled for the 4th of July.

Nor am I.

As the blogger himself admits, this piece is poorly written.

I think he is attempting to suggest that Kokeshs' march will result in more state governors becoming favorable to a con-con and thus creating a threat to our current RKBA.

That may be a stretch, but the armed march going bad (in any number of ways) is a very real possibility with heavy negative consequences if / when it does.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-05-20   22:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ (#2)

They might think they can handle the millions of gun owners in this country, but I sincerely doubt they can.

As long as my fellow RKBA advocates can muster the discernment to properly identify who the true "they" are, and then act accordingly we will prevail.

But if "they" end up causing RKBA folk to engage LEO and other government lackeys, we lose and "they" win.

It appears that the blogger is informing us that he believes Kokesh is one of "them" and that his actions designed to be detrimental to our RKBA.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-05-20   23:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Buzzard (#5)

But if "they" end up causing RKBA folk to engage LEO and other government lackeys, we lose and "they" win.

The way I see it, it's LEO that will engage us. We'll be defensive at first.

The losers are the ones that start it, whoever decides to start it, us or them.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-21   8:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Buzzard (#0)

(1) No con-con is expected for July, only two months from now.

(2) An extra million people on July 4th would be a mere drop in the bucket as regards Independence Day tourist traffic in DC.

(3) The last time one of these "armed appearances" was scheduled, about 20 years ago, cops in all the states leading toward DC were doing land office business enforcing the various state laws about firearms in cars, firearms in states where they weren't licensed, etc.

(4) If there's a confrontation, let's see, several local police departments, some federal LEO agencies such as the Secret Service and the Capitol Police, plus troops from the Pentagon, the Navy Yard, the Marine barracks, etc., up against disorganized tourists with no supply lines. Gee, doesn't look like an even match.

Oh, and thanks for the anti-Jewish insult, otherwise I'd think I was debating someone rational.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-05-21   14:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Shoonra (#7)

(1) No con-con is expected for July, only two months from now.

What's your source(s) on that, please?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-21   15:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#1)

What is illegal about open carry in any state or territory in the union?

I think the answer to my question is nothing.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-21   15:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#8)

A source stating that there is a push for a July 4th date this year for a Constitutional Convention:

Constitutional Convention Call Redux – Part 2 - Fellowship of the Minds

Posted on March 16, 2013 by Kelleigh [Excerpts]

Several states are now passing calls for a Constitutional Convention again. The Compact for America (a nasty bunch) is pushing for a new Constitutional Convention in Dallas this July 4, 2013.

In January of 2013, the Compact for America (CFA) Initiative started lobbying all the state legislators to propose legislation that would call for a Constitutional Convention under the guise of a Balanced Budget Amendment (BBA). Unlike the 1980s call for a Con-Con, this is even more insidious. The Compact for America (CFA) is calling for a Constitutional Convention, as provided for in Article V of the Constitution, to meet in Dallas, Texas on July 4, 2013. The Right of the People in convention to alter their government could be used to make this a runaway convention.

Before the CFA’s BBA Amendment Con-Con could begin, at least 38 state legislatures would need to join in the CFA’s “compact” calling for the convening in Dallas, in July of 2013.

Here’s an admission from CFA’s Nick Dranias, constitutional “expert” with the Goldwater Institute, informing the Arizona house committee on March 21st, at about 1:38-1:40 pm (on the archived video on Arizona SCR 1005, Constitution; Amendments Convention; Federal Debt) that “two retired business men” brought them this “genius plan.” Thank Heaven the legislators on that committee were informed and intelligent enough to vote it down.

Next, we’ll look at ALEC’s drive for a Constitutional Convention, along with Henry Hazlitt, Rexford Tugwell, and the New States Constitution which is waiting in the wings to replace the 1787 Constitution.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-21   16:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Buzzard, All (#4) (Edited)

As the blogger himself admits, this piece is poorly written.

I think he is attempting to suggest that Kokeshs' march will result in more state governors becoming favorable to a con-con and thus creating a threat to our current RKBA.

Adam Kokesh, Organizer of July 4 Loaded-Rifle March, Arrested at Philadelphia Pot Rally - DCist [Excerpts]

By Benjamin R. Freed in News on May 20, 2013 12:40 PM76

Adam Kokesh, the libertarian activist who is planning to lead a group of loaded-rifle-toting marchers through D.C. on July 4, is currently sitting in a federal detention center in Philadelphia following his arrest there last weekend. Kokesh was arrested Saturday while participating in the "Smoke Down Prohibition," his staff announced on his Facebook page.

Kokesh and other participants in the pro-marijuana demonstration were taken into custody about 4:20 p.m.—when else?—on Saturday after sparking up joints on Independence Mall in downtown Philadelphia. Four others were also arrested by U.S. Park Police.

in an interview with DCist last week, he said that some of the event's parameters have changed. Rather than blazing a trail around the National Mall while hoisting loaded rifles in the air, Kokesh said that the march will traverse the Memorial Bridge up to the District line. Metropolitan Police Department Chief Cathy Lanier has said that her officers as well as Park Police will be deployed to meet Kokesh's group on the bridge.

There are two options," Kokesh said last week. "We're going to be allowed to march, or we're going to march up to the line, have some words, and turn around.

The latter seems more likely, considering Lanier's statements, though Kokesh is still volunteering himself to be the test case for attempting to enter D.C. while carrying a gun. "I volunteer myself to be the liaison," he said.

Adam Kokesh - Wikipedia

In 1999, Kokesh enlisted in the United States Marine Corps Reserve. [12] In 2004, he was deployed to Iraq and served in Fallujah.[13] He was a liaison between the U.S. military and Iraqi civilians as a member of the 3rd Civil Affairs Group.[1]

I could be wrong but got the impression early on in the Iraq War, around that same timeframe, that Civil Affairs was infiltrated. Don't recall any media reports about him, though, until he became a civilian activist.

Edited for highlighting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-21   16:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11) (Edited)

in an interview with DCist last week, he said that some of the event's parameters have changed. Rather than blazing a trail around the National Mall while hoisting loaded rifles in the air, Kokesh said that the march will traverse the Memorial Bridge up to the District line.

Some Comments at: Adam Kokesh - Open Carry March on Washington #OpenCarry130704 - Facebook

Tom Lunsford: "Fyi... both sides of Memorial Bridge are DC. The "Virginia" side is Columbia Island, which is part of the District. The state line isn't until the smaller bridge right next to the Metro @ the cemetery.

Another FYI... it's also illegal in Arlington, Virginia to carry a rifle with a 20rd or greater magazine, or a shotgun with a 7rd or greater capacity."

Ryan Thomas: "I don't want thousands of innocent people dead. You know that cop that body slammed Adam at the thomas jefferson memorial? He's an actor. He was the same cop in another Kokesh video a week prior. Just google Adam Kokesh debunked. You're all walking into a trap on july 4th. This shit has Psyop written all over it. Wake up. https:// www.youtube.com/watch? v=7bDxnpNj6UU One week later, same guy, different state - https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=8jUU3yCy3uI"

Deb Simpson: "I think the event (4th of July march on DC) is honorable in the ideology but problematic. So much so that I fear it will end up benefiting Obama and a chain reaction to the result of losing our 2nd amendment rights entirely. As a war veteran, I am quite sure you don't want history to remember you that way.

The event would be more honorable if, instead of carrying weapons, flags were displayed representing the entire constitution instead of just the 2nd amendment.

Other flags could be honored as well. State flags, POW, Red Cross, children's organizations such as the Boy Scouts, Veteran organizations such as the VFW have a positive connotation of honor and respect. Imagine a river of moving flags. A flag event could involve children and they would learn a lesson of a lifetime. I cannot think of another event that would turn an entire generation of young people into patriots. This would be an event that they could share with their children. I was just thinking how history will remember you if that were to happen. You would be the hero of many children. One to serve their country but not be afraid to speak the truth.

Another thought is, how will history view this event? Would you rather your grandchildren read about how the event got out of control and lives were lost, then how the president declared martial law? Or maybe if flags were used they would study how the constitution works in real life. Do you want the event to remembered by blood flowing in the streets or smiling children and their parents being proud of their country."

Edited for highlighting and spacing + quoted article excerpt added at the top of the post.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-21   16:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra (#7)

Oh, and thanks for the anti-Jewish insult, otherwise I'd think I was debating someone rational.

I don't recall ever seeing you debate on this forum.

Your general MO is to post some slanted, misleading and often borderline off topic information and then simply disappear.

You, Shoonra, don't possess the integrity to debate me. My impression of you is that you are a deceitful, overeducated coward.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-05-21   18:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA2 (#6)

The way I see it, it's LEO that will engage us.

Certain elements within their ranks will be looking for an opportunity to provoke an incident, for sure. (Or to react if a provocateur within the ranks of the march instigates a negative action.)

A shooting or a firefight at the march would be a horrible tragedy no matter how it started.

But with the spin of the zionist gun grabbers, public and political sentiment in the aftermath could be utilized to gut the 2nd Amendment. Or abolish it completely IF a con-con were to occur.

Kokesh is responsible for the staging of this event.

It appears the author of this blog suspects the stated motives for his doing so to be disingenuous.

I personally would encourage everyone to not support this march, not participate in any way and to disavow any connection with Kokesh or his actions.

If one doesn't identify themselves as a target, they will not attract the attention of any LEO PAWNS.

And that may be all the edge someone needs.

It's the bankers fault !

Buzzard  posted on  2013-05-21   19:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Buzzard, 4 (#14)

I agree.

This is no time for gorilla-like chest thumping. It's not tactically smart and it doesn't impress anyone. The internet tough guys aren't any threat to anyone but themselves and anyone stupid enough to hang out with them,

Kokesh wasnt even handcuffed, was he? freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=155071&Disp=2#C2 shows he was just restrained. Is that SOP, or are they supposed to cuff people immediately?

I've never been a fan of organized protests. What good do they do? The .gov doesn't care about protests. All it does is release steam and that plays right into the governments hand. It's a waste of energy that could be put to better use.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-21   19:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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