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Title: You want fake info, be my guest
Source: Self
URL Source: http://Here
Published: May 22, 2013
Author: Me
Post Date: 2013-05-22 02:00:12 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 1319
Comments: 41

Anybody who has a problem with truth or reality, say it now. I want a vote here.

If you wish to believe whatever you're told, whatever you're fed, do it.

If you want information beyond that, let me know.

The vote here is to decide whether I should leave this forum or not.

I'm sick of dealing with two faced people, and government shills. Both are the same sort of person, although one gets paid for it while the other one might just get a "promise" of future reward.

I'm giving it 48 hours.

At the end of that time I'll tally the vote and take it like a man.

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#1. To: FormerLurker (#0)

No, just don't take disagreements so personally. You saw the abuse I sometimes took on El Pee. I just blew it off and refused to let it bother me.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   2:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

There is a concerted effort by shills on this forum to bring it to it's knees.

You've seen the antics of BeAChooser, yukon, ByteShredder, and others.

Well look at what's going on today..

If people wish to follow the pack of wolves, let them.

If they don't wish to do that then I can help, if they want it..

If not, then oh well. It's very time consuming and thankless, so why should I give a fuck if others don't, in fact, some people who I THOUGHT were on the side of truth turn around and accuse ME of being their enemy?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22   3:06:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

I guess I'm not totally convinced that it is not just conflicting world views and hence viewpoints. However, I also do not post with anywhere near the frequency I used to. Forums, have largely been negated as a means to reach a broad audience with the truth. LF was over run with trolls and then shut down, El Pee and Freeptardia were simply subverted with money. So, it goes for any forum that gains much notoriety. However, we still have a reasonably astute crowd here, and while christine does not ride close herd she is, I am certain, aware of what goes on at her forum. So, it is not so much I don't care it is that I trust christine's judgment.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   3:19:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Forums, have largely been negated as a means to reach a broad audience with the truth.

i agree with you. it isn't just forums. it's all mediums. however, there was a time when most of us here were friends. while there's always been disagreements, there was never this degree of disrespect and animous towards one another.

i always felt like 4um was a place of refuge and camaraderie, but i'm not feeling that anymore.

i'm seriously considering pulling the plug.

christine  posted on  2013-05-22   3:50:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#11. To: christine, Original_Intent (#10)

i always felt like 4um was a place of refuge and camaraderie, but i'm not feeling that anymore.

i'm seriously considering pulling the plug.

I can see why forums that become popular need moderators. I think this forum has been flagged by the PTB as one that needs "scrutiny", and now we have those who act like those we've seen on past forums.

They accuse US of being all sorts of things, yet by viewing their standard behavior, it's apparent what THEY'RE all about...

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22 04:01:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#10)

I'll play along with those who wish to speak their mind, for now, until or if you decide to yank the plug. Myself, I've devoted a good amount of time presenting what I have over the years, and I suppose if you wish to keep up the fight, I could say screw it and do the same.

I've had a few drinks and am speaking my mind more than usual, if you couldn't tell. I just don't like to be gang attacked then portrayed as the "shill", when it's those doing the attacking who are.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22 04:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#10) (Edited)

i'm seriously considering pulling the plug.

Don't.

Never do.

I understand that these issues are taxing.

But the few mentally free people their are.. Many do not have other places to congregate.

For the love of God and good please never let this place go down quietly.

Kick me out , kick him out, Do what ever needs to be done but keep the forum up and running regardless of the drama and drama queens.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-22 04:14:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#10)

Do what you think is best Christine. Maybe you should yank my account, I'm just drawn to it like glue.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22 04:15:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#10)

You know Christine, there are a lot of people who DO enjoy this forum and post decent articles. Don't pull the plug.

Delete my account and do as you think is right with others.

I don't want to be the person who brought 4um down.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22 05:01:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#10)

i always felt like 4um was a place of refuge and camaraderie, but i'm not feeling that anymore.

i'm seriously considering pulling the plug.

For me it is still a meeting place where I visit to talk to people whom I like and have grown to respect - even when I do not agree.

The noise, of late, has been somewhat of an irritation, but I think it is only so noticeable because a lot of the old regulars are not visiting as often.

However, it has always been your forum and your decision. I'll be self serving and say I hope you do not because I still like coming here for news, info, and the exchange of ideas. There are a lot of people here, still, whom I would miss, and I think that there is still camaraderie.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22 12:26:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine, 4um (#10)

i always felt like 4um was a place of refuge and camaraderie, but i'm not feeling that anymore.

i'm seriously considering pulling the plug.

Comrades fight occasionally in refuges.

We are ALL strong-willed people. That is what sets us apart. It can be difficult to know when to retract the fangs though.

There are a few that take things personally. They're easy enough to recognize.

But, it's your baby. I just say I hope you don't.

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-22 12:53:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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