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Title: You want fake info, be my guest
Source: Self
URL Source: http://Here
Published: May 22, 2013
Author: Me
Post Date: 2013-05-22 02:00:12 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 1324
Comments: 41

Anybody who has a problem with truth or reality, say it now. I want a vote here.

If you wish to believe whatever you're told, whatever you're fed, do it.

If you want information beyond that, let me know.

The vote here is to decide whether I should leave this forum or not.

I'm sick of dealing with two faced people, and government shills. Both are the same sort of person, although one gets paid for it while the other one might just get a "promise" of future reward.

I'm giving it 48 hours.

At the end of that time I'll tally the vote and take it like a man.

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No, just don't take disagreements so personally. You saw the abuse I sometimes took on El Pee. I just blew it off and refused to let it bother me.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   2:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is a concerted effort by shills on this forum to bring it to it's knees.

You've seen the antics of BeAChooser, yukon, ByteShredder, and others.

Well look at what's going on today..

If people wish to follow the pack of wolves, let them.

If they don't wish to do that then I can help, if they want it..

If not, then oh well. It's very time consuming and thankless, so why should I give a fuck if others don't, in fact, some people who I THOUGHT were on the side of truth turn around and accuse ME of being their enemy?

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-22   3:06:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess I'm not totally convinced that it is not just conflicting world views and hence viewpoints. However, I also do not post with anywhere near the frequency I used to. Forums, have largely been negated as a means to reach a broad audience with the truth. LF was over run with trolls and then shut down, El Pee and Freeptardia were simply subverted with money. So, it goes for any forum that gains much notoriety. However, we still have a reasonably astute crowd here, and while christine does not ride close herd she is, I am certain, aware of what goes on at her forum. So, it is not so much I don't care it is that I trust christine's judgment.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   3:19:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Good point regarding christine's operation of this forum. It's impossible to keep the trolls out of a truly free forum, but once they expose themselves, she does a good job of removing them.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-05-22   11:32:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Although, full disclosure, I have enjoyed 'bot tossing, and troll trashing, as a sport, one of the things I have enjoyed, and why I have stayed, is the ability to hold a conversation for longer than ten posts without a designated disrupter, such as yuktard, diving in to ensure that no intelligent conversation took place. The recent kerfluffle here has been nowhere near the level I have experienced at at least 3 other forums I've taken part in.

I think the biggest argument in favor of a place like this is the exchange of ideas and viewpoints even if tempers sometimes get frayed. Of course it also annoys the PTB to have us lowly proletarians actually engaging in substantive discussion.

While forums may not have the wide dissemination they did a few years ago they are still a powerful weapon against ignorance and disinformation. A lot of lurkers and passer's by still stop, look, and even if they don't take part it forces them to think. The only thing I have against ongoing alley fights is that it detracts and gives a false impression of the value of debate and exchange.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   12:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I should add, that in the tumult of the last year this has been an anchor point of stability. I have used more than 1 computer from more than 1 location but 4um has always been there at the same spot. I can't express how much that has meant. Thanks for being here.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-22   12:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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