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Title: Attention 4um participants
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Published: May 22, 2013
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2013-05-22 13:39:19 by christine
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As most of you know, I haven't had the time to participate in or monitor 4um as I once did. That's not going to change. I will not be able to read every post every day. Truthfully, when I created this forum, it was never my intention to be a heavy handed administrator and it was always my hope that participants appreciate that, respect it, and, thereby, exercise self control.

For the most part, that has been the case--until lately.

The animosity and incivility and accusations displayed towards one another has become almost intolerable to me. It's caused me to feel ashamed that I am the owner of this forum. I am actually considering pulling the plug as I cannot see any value in letting this continue.

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#9. To: christine (#0)

You could let someone you trust who has time and wouldn't mind moderating it do it instead of pulling the plug. You are not responsible for what others post so you shouldn't be ashamed, people that post inappropriate stuff should be ashamed.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-22   14:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: RickyJ, christine (#9) (Edited)

You could let someone you trust who has time and wouldn't mind moderating it do it instead of pulling the plug. You are not responsible for what others post so you shouldn't be ashamed, people that post inappropriate stuff should be ashamed.

Is there a way to add Off-Topic and "Mudslinging" vote counters instead, so that you won't have to be bothered with PMs about that -- just look at those numbers for troublespot escalations? At LibertyForum, if a thread went off topic, the part that did was sometimes moved to its own thread. Bickering to excess was, iirc, sometimes moved to a "Cage-Match" subsection off the main board so as not to clutter up the Latest Comments area. Temporary time-out suspensions rather than banishment without reprieve might be something that could be an incentive for more civility. Would be a better alternative, imo, than Freedom4um being closed down or entrusted to other controllers (as LibertyForum was) who might abuse their moderator and database access powers or be motivated to cause other mischief here: using multiple screen names for deceptive baiting and such, for example.

Edited a typo.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-22   15:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist (#17)

There's always the Bozo Filter List in Setup, and there's the Ignore Thread on each new post which I use liberally when fellow members go 'round the bend on each other.

As invaluable as is my time, it's worth more than that.

Lod  posted on  2013-05-22   15:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod, christine, 4um (#18)

There's always the Bozo Filter List in Setup, and there's the Ignore Thread on each new post which I use liberally when fellow members go 'round the bend on each other.

I don't use the bozo filter, but often use the 'Ignore Thread' function, especially when people start their pissing matches in a quest for "the truth."

The truth has been outlawed with the advent of P.C. and is irrevocably extinct. There's not much point in searching for something that no longer exists. JFK, 9-11, the illegal jewWars, SandyHoax, Boston, etc. can all be written off to the JIZ infiltration of our government. Easy-peasy. The details will not be forthcoming (I do wish I knew how they turned three skyscrapers into powder, though. I could make a killing in the demolition trade).

That being said, there may be some merit to having someone else moderate the forum. I nominate Loddy. When Lod feels the need say something to someone who's out of line, they're way out of line. Never seen him make a bad call.

Also when a poster throws a hissy-fit demanding that their account be deleted, it should be done without discussion or question and their IP blocked and all posts deleted, if that is doable without a bunch of bullshit/nonsense (wasted time). There's nothing keeping anyone from just walking away. If they're so fucking unhappy with this website, then just leave, anything else is just drama.

Any poster deliberately posting disinformation on behalf of a foreign government (whether paid or not) to subvert the United States or the Constitution, should be banned without explanation or discussion. There's only one here that I'm aware of.

Sorry about the nomination for ban hammer duty, Loddy. I know that you probably don't want anything to do with that, but that's what makes you a perfect fit. Anybody volunteering for that job has an agenda and should be automatically excluded.

This is JMO, and worth exactly what you paid me for it, $0.00.

Esso  posted on  2013-05-22   16:59:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Esso (#23)

"Any poster deliberately posting disinformation on behalf of a foreign government (whether paid or not) to subvert the United States or the Constitution, should be banned without explanation or discussion. There's only one here that I'm aware of."

There are at least two --- one for Israel and one for Mexico.

I don't want them banned though. Some people do more to hurt their cause than to help it. Goldi-lox is a good example.

Big Meanie  posted on  2013-05-22   18:10:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Big Meanie, 4 (#31)

a nice thought for us all, enjoy -

Lod  posted on  2013-05-22   18:16:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod, christine (#34)

I'll see your Joan and raise you a Chrissie (Hynde).

Esso  posted on  2013-05-22   18:24:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#38. To: Esso (#36)

No one sings Dylan like Baez - no one.

End of discussion. ;-)

Baez and Harris have aged so amazingly beautifully, I just can't say.

What amazing angels.

Lod  posted on  2013-05-22 18:40:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Esso, christine, Original_Intent, Dakmar, Lod, abraxas, farmfriend, James Deffenbach (#36)

X-15  posted on  2013-05-22 19:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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