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Title: Attention 4um participants
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Published: May 22, 2013
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2013-05-22 13:39:19 by christine
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As most of you know, I haven't had the time to participate in or monitor 4um as I once did. That's not going to change. I will not be able to read every post every day. Truthfully, when I created this forum, it was never my intention to be a heavy handed administrator and it was always my hope that participants appreciate that, respect it, and, thereby, exercise self control.

For the most part, that has been the case--until lately.

The animosity and incivility and accusations displayed towards one another has become almost intolerable to me. It's caused me to feel ashamed that I am the owner of this forum. I am actually considering pulling the plug as I cannot see any value in letting this continue.

I would like to know your thoughts and opinions. Subscribe to *4um Admin News*

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#48. To: christine (#0)

I have seen 2 good conspiracy forum go to shit.

First one GTTO went the way of the dodo (not extinct yet... soon enough) because it was unmoderated and the owner and acolyte wanted only his own truth to shine out. You posted something that might negate the "truth", it was unwelcome. Other posters might have gotten confused and tough something else. It got to the point that it became an elitist clique that one have to be a member to even read threads. A totally screwed up environment. The only people now posting new threads there are the owner and his acolyte.

Regardless how one decide to view this, the result is the same, the truth is not coming out.

The other one was left to run amok in the name of free speech. Cliques formed over the span of 2 years, chasing everybody with their incessant trolling and incessant personal attacks, conspiracy theories that were posted, ridiculed by the same people who were left to keep the site up and running when the creator and owner left.

The end result, the site is still up and the bullies have won, they successfully have kicked out of their sandbox other members who had something to contribute by either post hunting them or trolling them out of the place. It was supposed to be a replacement to ATS without moderation, it has failed. The original owner does not even want to touch it with a 60 foot pole.

Leave a garden unattended, two things might happen.

1, It dries up, lack of water and becomes a patch of dried cracked earth (In Texas it will.)

2, If you do not weed it, grass, flowers, vegetables... will fight the weeds to get some sunshine, when they don't, they are overpowered withers and die. The weeds need to be pulled out, by the roots.

It would be sad if freedom4um were to go down this way, damn, it would be tragic :o(

Is it safe to assume that some members more than others have felt the lack of sunshine and are being suffocated by weeds?

You cannot ask a lot of people to get along under threat of pulling the plug without being willing to pull the weeds out. To do so is unfair. Might as well ask the flowers to do the job themselves, they are unable to do so, they do not have the means to do so.

If you want to try something new, I know someone who might be willing to code something. It would be a mean for us, posters to self moderate our own threads by post banning disruptors in the thread.

Just a thought.

SilverStorm

SilverStorm  posted on  2013-05-22   21:16:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Christine is NOT going to let this go away.

If she doesn't want to pay the registration fee, I will.

Lod  posted on  2013-05-22   22:06:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#63. To: Lod (#62)

Christine is NOT going to let this go away.

If she doesn't want to pay the registration fee, I will.

If it truly comes to this Lod, we will help with the costs. I'm sure others will as well.

SilverStorm  posted on  2013-05-22 22:49:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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