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Title: Attention 4um participants
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Published: May 22, 2013
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2013-05-22 13:39:19 by christine
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As most of you know, I haven't had the time to participate in or monitor 4um as I once did. That's not going to change. I will not be able to read every post every day. Truthfully, when I created this forum, it was never my intention to be a heavy handed administrator and it was always my hope that participants appreciate that, respect it, and, thereby, exercise self control.

For the most part, that has been the case--until lately.

The animosity and incivility and accusations displayed towards one another has become almost intolerable to me. It's caused me to feel ashamed that I am the owner of this forum. I am actually considering pulling the plug as I cannot see any value in letting this continue.

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#22. To: christine (#0)

Well, we haven't seen this type of discussion in quite a while. Maybe it's overdue? hehe

The sentiment is certainly understandable. I was a real idealist back when LP was started up. I figured most people had a thirst for the truth, and would get a good sense of satisfaction in discussing points and counterpoints. That gave me a lot of satisfaction in creating the software. Well, that and knowing how much dough FR rakes in, if I'm going to be real honest.

But I'm not so much of an idealist anymore. What's the truth, Christine? The plain truth is that most of us are pretty well set in what we believe, and "discussing" topics on a web forum isn't going to change that. That includes me and most all of us here. This forum, and all others, are also very impersonal. We don't talk about things face to face. No, instead everyone is merely talking to their computer screens. And it's easy to be rude to a computer screen.

I know, no big revelation there.

It's just not a substitute for having a big reunion somewhere where we all get to see what we all look like, in person, face to face, where most of us would be much more cordial.

I guess there may be benefits to you that are now taken for granted. Maybe think about them?

Pinguinite  posted on  2013-05-22   16:52:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pinguinite (#22)

What's the truth, Christine?

what each of us believes it is.;)

thanks for your input, Neil. i appreciate what you wrote very much.

christine  posted on  2013-05-22   21:52:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#56)

I say do nothing, and let God figure it out.

Critter  posted on  2013-05-22   21:53:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Critter (#57)

I say do nothing, and let God figure it out.

that was funny. :P

christine  posted on  2013-05-22   22:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: christine, Lod, Esso (#61)

I agree with Esso, Lod would make a very good moderator. Sometimes the only solution with a real troll is banning. Sure the bozo filter and ignore thread are great for posters to ignore them, but they don't work for lurkers to ignore them. I think that is the main reason for any trolls here, to keep most lurkers from reading this forum and learning something.

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-23   2:14:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#75. To: RickyJ (#74)

Astute observation. I also think that is why 4um does not always show up in Search Engine results.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-05-23 02:18:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: RickyJ, christine, Lod, Esso (#74)

I agree with Esso, Lod would make a very good moderator. Sometimes the only solution with a real troll is banning. Sure the bozo filter and ignore thread are great for posters to ignore them, but they don't work for lurkers to ignore them. I think that is the main reason for any trolls here, to keep most lurkers from reading this forum and learning something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23 02:58:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: RickyJ (#74)

I think that is the main reason for any trolls here, to keep most lurkers from reading this forum and learning something.

As it has always been. Silence those who have inconvenient things to say, and make anyone trying to pull things into perspective appear to be the villain.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-23 03:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: RickyJ (#74)

Thanks for the compliment, but after my banning at FR for questioning the chimperor's non-guarding of our borders, especially the southern one; I really, really, really, dislike moderated forums.

We should be mature enough, kind enough, wise enough, and thoughtful enough individuals to show common courtesy when talking(?) to each other here.

Shouldn't we?

Lod  posted on  2013-05-23 17:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: RickyJ, christine, Lod, Esso, Original_Intent (#74)

I agree with Esso, Lod would make a very good moderator.

I disagree, though it pains me to do so. Lod is too nice a guy and the stress would not be good for his health.

farmfriend  posted on  2013-05-23 20:41:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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