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Title: London's false flag even more pathetic than the Boston Bombing
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Published: May 23, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-05-23 11:17:48 by wudidiz
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London’s false flag even more pathetic than the Boston Bombing

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Woolwich beheading: Security tightened at all London army barracks

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The gruesome scene of a decapitated actor with no police or paramedics at the scene and no blood!!

Note the  offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!

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I am sure many of you have woken up to this amazing Shakespearean play that has unfolded in Woolwich, London where all the actors were so bad they would not even qualify for an interview as an extra in some third rate movie!! 

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First we had the overhead helicopter shots taken soon after the incident at the junction of the A205 and the B210 (so called crime scene). The first pictures emerged showing a police tent covering the body of the victim….but wait a minute this tent must have been blown away by the wind to another location…….were the actors involved in this flase flag caught with their trousers down?…….take a look at the original tent location below.

Scene 1

The tent can be seen at the crossroads (upper centre) next to the median strip and not at the scene of the alleged crime which is behind the block of flats!!

Scene 2A close up of this bodged forensic scene

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Suddenly the tent moves (just like Dr. Who’s Tardis) to its next prepared scene with its prepared actors in the street around the corner as shown below

Scene 3

The new forensic tent location – note the conveniently place truck blocking the intersection

Scene 4

Close up of the scene of crime once they managed to get things right LOL!!

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Another shot of the tent as they repositioned it -  otherwise known as sprucing up the scene to make it look good!!

Scene 13

Now you can see the scene taken from the helicopter and compare to the first one above with the tent in the wrong location

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Now let’s look again at those that carried out this alleged terrorist attack:

Scene 6

“Oh My God” we have both just cut off the head of the victim and look not a trace of blood on our clothing and no one at the scene were screaming or running away……………most unusual don’t you think?

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Look at the look alike blood on my hands and not on my coat (after such a vicious attack)…..they flew over the false blood from the Boston Bombing…..looks very impressive don’t you think?

Scene 8eyreinternational.files.w.../scene-8.jpg?w=700&h=393" width="700" height="393">Hey look at the victim without his head and no blood and people simply watching….wouldn’t you be running?

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Lets not look at what people were saying: and the comments by the PM, Police and Whitehall etc:

Victim was wearing a red “Help the Hero’s” T shirt

He was repeatedly stabbed and hacked and his body dragged into the middle of the road

Note….Can you see any red T shirt or blood on the road?

The police commander said he was unable to give any  information about the man that had died ….two men who we believe from earlier reports had been carrying weapons  were shot by police …they have both been sent to separate London hospitals where they are receiving treatment for their injuries…….I can understand that this will cause community concern…..and I would like to reiterate that we are investigating the circumstances of this incident.

Note Obviously he could not say anymore until he had been brainwashed.

Reports say that it was politically motivated

Note: You bet it was but what do they have up their sleeve?

PM

TV interview with British PM – He confirmed that they are considering this as a terrorist incident -He rushed back to London to chair an emergency meeting on the incident

Note: Yes he and his cabal will be conjuring up some thing rather nasty that could well bring in even more “Police State Laws” or even blame it on some group in the Middle East!!

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ITV News has broadcast footage of a man with bloodied hands talking to a camera, following a machete attack in south-east London.

He makes a series of political statements before walking towards a man, who is believed to be a soldier, lying on the street.

One man died and two were injured in the incident in a Woolwich street, which the government is reported to be treating as a terrorist incident.

Note I guess we were all waiting for that word “Terrorist” to spread fear into the hearts of all those who live in the UK!!

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Once again the good old Zionist controlled BBC put their foot in it when they released there coverage of the incident showing again the original scene of the crime before the wind blew it around the corner!!!………..as shown below:

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Gotch you…….did they drag the body around the corner?

BBC stated  a man wearing a Help the Hero’s T Shirt was hit by a car, then attacked and killed with a machete or sword by the cars occupants……so much  vivid violence and yet still no blood at the scene……..why?…….because the actors had not had time to splash it around before the filmed the scene…….it was however added later as the picture below shows………the blood is only on the pavement and not on the road!!……….do you think they attempted to copy the Boston Bombing but somehow did not get it right?

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Blood around the signpost – Tomato Ketchup!!

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Then we had the final nail in the coffin when they pointed a finger at Islamic Terrorists:

BBC said senior Whitehall sources say they are treating  the killing as a serious Islamist  terrorist attack ….  Cobra meetings say there is a strong connection with a terrorist connection.

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scene 11

Then we had the good old BBC make another mistake when the tent was filmed with the truck being very close to the alleged victim…….the actual scene they first released shows the truck being much further away (as per below)…….tut tut Mr.BBC!!!

Scene 3

Finally we have to have an heroic story to add meaning to this terrible false event when a mother of two confronted the killers as shown in the picture and article below……..boy oh boy how much more of this bullshit do we have to take………….its time the New World Order were removed from the face of this planet and put away for life!!

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‘Appalling attack’ in Britain likely terrorist-related: PM

This is the moment a British mother-of-two confronted a man who had allegedly just cut off a soldier’s head in broad daylight, telling him he would ‘lose’ his crusade.

Ingrid Loyau-Kennett jumped off a bus to check a soldier’s pulse, after he was brutally attacked and hacked to death by two men on a busy London street.

Ms Loyau-Kennett then stood up to the man, who was still armed with a large knife, and gave him a piece of her mind.

“Right now it is only you versus many people, you are going to lose, what would you like to do?”, she reportedly told him.

“We want to start a war in London tonight”, the man responded.

The man and his accomplice had allegedly just murdered a serving British soldier in broad daylight without provocation.

Eyewitnesses have said the men launched a ferocious attack on the soldier, hacking at him with machetes.

The men then gloated to onlookers, praising Allah and saying, ‘We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you’, while still carrying knives in their bloody hands.

British police shot and wounded the men following the attack which Prime Minister David Cameron called “truly shocking”.

In a dramatic move, the government’s emergency response committee was being summoned following the killing which some eyewitness reports suggested was an attempted beheading using machete-like knives.

Some early reports suggested the attack might be Islamist-related, although there was no official confirmation.

The incident took place mid-afternoon in a street around 200 metres from the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, a district of southeast London.

Police were called at 2:20 pm (1320 GMT) to reports of one man being assaulted by two others.

“A number of weapons were reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a firearm,” said police commander Simon Letchford.

Local police officers, then firearms officers arrived on the scene where they found a man who was later pronounced dead.

“Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying weapons, were shot by police. They were taken to separate London hospitals, they are receiving treatment for their injuries,” Letchford said.

He said there would be a heightened police presence in the area and urged locals to remain calm.

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You can watch this Micky Mouse saga pan out in the following video clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9h7NppxbWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksS8moko5xs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksS8moko5xs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1sf_XQdGdE

I would like to remind you all that this type of false flag activity appears rather miniscule to the much greater crimes that the New World Order have committed………..a good starter would have to be the introduction of HIV/AIDS into black communities in Africa and their current long term depopulation goals via the UN sponsored Agenda 21.

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So there you have it folks…..if you have finished throwing up……….. yet another classic bodged false flag and maybe after my next article you will better understand how these puppets of the New World Order work!

Peter Eyre – Broadcaster – Investigative Journalist – Middle East Consultant – Political Analysis – 23/5/2013


Poster Comment:

http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/nick-berg-beheading-video-death-conspiracy/ http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/world/europe/uk-london-attack/index.html http://www.infowars.com/london-terror-attack-blamed-on-anti-government-sentiment/ http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=154979(17 images)

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#1. To: All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   11:31:28 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   12:38:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#0)

Careful now, you're gonna hurt turtle's feelings with all this CT rot.

Support bacteria.

(The world needs more culture)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2013-05-23   14:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Obnoxicated (#3)

Real blood?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   14:32:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wudidiz (#0)

There must be no knee jerk reaction. The White English must be welcoming to more immigrants who enhance their society with their vibrancy....London is being enriched daily with multicultural vibrancy. The people should be thankful for this cultural sharing. Diversity is a strength and experiences such as this only make the British natives better people. Fucking niggers, they're the same worldwide......

If this horrible racial crime doesn't wake up Whites to the fact that their Judaic governments have led them to their own destruction, and it's time for fighting in the streets, then I'm afraid nothing will wake them up and White extinction is nigh.

Man, Hitler was a prophet. The British killed the wrong guy and now look at these "winners" of WWII.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-23   15:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#5)

"Victim was wearing a red “Help the Hero’s” T shirt

He was repeatedly stabbed and hacked and his body dragged into the middle of the road

Note….Can you see any red T shirt or blood on the road?"


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   15:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#6)

Dude, there were eyewitnesses who were shocked at the crime. Just stop with the bullshit, the soldier was really killed. Grow the fuck up and accept that it happened.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-23   15:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#7)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   15:19:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#8)

Fucking bozo'd.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-23   15:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15 (#9)

Enjoy the koolaid.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   15:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Tough crowd.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   15:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#9)

YOu kow at first I did not think this possible.. Then I looked and read and pondered.

Where is all the blood?

Decapitation is not clean. Especially from a body that has been / had been fighting.. lots of blood pumping faster... Their should be blood all over the place.. and what the fuck is up with that crime scene? Do they think sun light could help? ... nahhhh.

And the people.... He is a black man ... with "bloody" (or at least painted) hands holding two weapons. ... and women are walking around the murderer as if it were no big deal.

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

titorite  posted on  2013-05-23   15:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz (#4) (Edited)

Because just holding one knife or one cleaver is not scary enough... he had to be holding both...

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-23   15:45:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#5)

'You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you.'

In footage obtained by The Sun, he can also be heard saying: 'You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns you think politicians are going to die?

'No it's going to be the average guy, like you, and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so you can all live in peace.

Is he wrong?

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2013-05-23   15:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#14)

not sure WHAT to make of this latest insanity -

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-23   15:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

At :28-30 there was no fence, and then at 1:04 appears a white fence.

WTF

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-23   15:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

WTF

I dunno, Loddy, but it was nice nice of the guys to hang around and talk to the cameras & wait for the cops to show up and shoot them. WTF indeed.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-23   16:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: X-15, 4 (#5)

Britain is a multicultural quilt, many colors, from many shores. They each keep their our own ways, but together they are so much more (urp).

I understand it took 20 mins for the *armed* cops to respond to this butchery because most of the Bobbies are still unarmed. You're right about Britain. Hitler should have prevailed over that eugenicist Churchill, and he would have had FDR not created a sitch whereby the Japanese, thirsting for oil from the Dutch Indies, were backed into a corner. The only hope for the British people at this point in time are the white soccer hooligans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-23   16:25:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod, Esso, all (#16)

At :28-30 there was no fence, and then at 1:04 appears a white fence.

WTF

the white fence is down the road where they've the two "actors" on the ground

you can see the blue car down the sidewalk


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-23   17:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#16)

At :28 the person in the road is the victim. At 1:04 the person in the road is a perp.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2013-05-23   17:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Prefrontal Vortex, 4 (#20)

These ops are getting lamer and lamer by the event.

Dear God, hire Spielberg or some other studio who can make them real.

NWO, you are beyond pathetic.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-23   18:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21)

NWO, you are beyond pathetic.

Of course now folks, if EVERYONE was being prescribed and using their psychiatric drugs prescribed by their quack psychiatrists for their "mental illnesses", none of these false flag events would ever occur.

LOL.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2013-05-23   18:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wudidiz (#0) (Edited)

BBC said senior Whitehall sources say they are treating the killing as a serious Islamist terrorist attack …. Cobra meetings say there is a strong connection with a terrorist connection.

Post #1 Video 1: Woolwich: One man dead after serious incident in Woolwich, south east London

From the Description section:

Prime Minister David Cameron described the Woolwich killing as "truly shocking" and said he had asked the Home Secretary to chair a meeting of Cobra, the Government's emergency committee. Report by Rob Gillett.

From the Comments section:

"Police took 20mins to get there ............No longer mentioned"

"this on the same day the government are allowing 600 afgan "translators" to live in the uk ."

"i didnt see any civilians harmed so i dont know how its terrorism."

"WHY IS THERE NOOOO damage to the piffly little sign post that complete wrote the car off Must be made out of cryptonite! .....1st law of motion......"

"I can't believe people were just walking around and speaking to these nutters while his hands are red with blood and holding the very weapons he used to butcher the soldier. I'd be well away from that sh*t."

/watch?v=jOBulprMa2A
Watch this before you judge anything
WHAT THE MEDIA DOESNT WANT TO SHOW YOU!
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[Video linked here: MUST WATCH!! Woolwich Terrorist Attack - ITV NEWS FRAUD - SHARE IT NOW!!!! - YouTube]

The woman with a shopping cart walks by the suspect in that linked video; disappears before going by him in this video:

Post #1 Video 2: London attack suspect caught on video

From the Comments section:

"It took the police thirty minutes to arrive according to eyewitness reports."

"What would you have done? The man who was targeted was dead and the two criminals are armed and waiting for the police."

"In normal circumstances, people would run away, not pause to talk on camera. What am I missing?"

"Why would a suspect pause after killing someone in cold blood to speak to people and get caught on camera, unless he wanted to get caught?"

"my goodness, WHY are there people just standing around?? I would f*cken run for my life."

"And not a single assault rifle was used...huh? So we should ban all meat cleavers and any other sharp kitchen knives as well....See how dumb this sh*t is...Maybe if this guy had a gun he could have defended himself...Just saying..."

"They came from rwanda M23 itv.com/news/update/2013-05-22­/exclusive-video-man- with-bloo­died-hands-speaks-at-woolwich-­scene/" [Linked here: Exclusive video: Man with bloodied hands speaks at Woolwich scene -- extended video of camera-speech by the suspect; article doesn't mention Rwanda.]

"this is what he said, it is spoken over on CNN for some reason.. so here you go 'We swear by Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth. We apologise that women had to see this today but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you.' the source is the guardian news website"

"one thing i dont get. his hands are covered to the skin cell with blood. But i cant see a drop on his clothes. Nor a pool of blood at the body and the people are so calm as if this a production of a movie"

"this story is fake. how does that guy get blood coating the entirety of his hands but not on his clothes? this is false flag folks. just like plenty of other things lately."

"no blood on hands watch?v=KG44SdBLNyc"
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[That video linked here is another version of the one linked above in brackets: LONDON TERROR HOAX EXPOSED - NO BLOOD ON KILLERS HANDS!!]

Edited for spacing and asterisk insertions + spelling for readability of Comments. Also for additional notation at the itv.com link.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-23   23:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull, X-15, Prefrontal Vortex, all (#18)

Please watch this and tell me why there's no blood on his hands and why is he talking to a reporter or more importantly, why is a reporter talking to him?

JT, can you not see this is fake?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   0:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: wudidiz, Lod, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0) (Edited)

[Pic link]

This is the moment a British mother-of-two confronted a man who had allegedly just cut off a soldier’s head in broad daylight, telling him he would ‘lose’ his crusade.

Ingrid Loyau-Kennett jumped off a bus to check a soldier’s pulse, after he was brutally attacked and hacked to death by two men on a busy London street.

Ms Loyau-Kennett then stood up to the man, who was still armed with a large knife, and gave him a piece of her mind.

“Right now it is only you versus many people, you are going to lose, what would you like to do?”, she reportedly told him.

“We want to start a war in London tonight”, the man responded.

Looks like she's in this Post #15 video at 0:33-0:45 + 2 other women at the scene. The next street scene is of the gunned down perps at 0:46 to the end of the news report. Compare both of those alleged crime scenes with the pic from the opening post that's shown below the video:

London 'machete' attack Footage, Warning: footage contains disturbing images

Pic link

The pic looks like it shows the alleged victim at the bottom left and the gunned down perps towards the top right but the pic shows a wall and red sign near the alleged victim that aren't seen in the video at 0:33-0:45. I suppose it would be possible that the group of people around him in the pic might be blocking what looked like 3 parking meters on the sidewalk in the video but, considering the strange wall and red sign anomalies, I don't think so.

Edited for grammar, last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   0:50:48 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: wudidiz (#24)

why is he talking to a reporter or more importantly, why is a reporter talking to him?

Maybe he's talking to a street-cam? England has lots of those, I've read.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   1:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz, All (#26) (Edited)

This article about the soldier [Lee Rigby, 25] says that the guy [Michael Adebolajo] was talking to a cell phone camera:

Soldier slain in London was a machine gunner, Royal Palaces drummer, father - cnn.com

Rigby's death has attracted worldwide attention because the slaying scene was captured on a cell phone camera. A man with bloodied hands, holding a meat cleaver and a knife, carried out the killing because, he said to the camera, "Muslims are dying daily."

That man, Michael Adebolajo, and a second person are under arrest.

Two other people were also arrested Thursday, London's Metropolitan Police said. Authorities have not released the identities of the other three.

There is a CNN video report at the article which has much about the soldier, Lee Rigby:

Pic link

Edited to activate link and add reference citation there + punctuation.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   1:41:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#27) (Edited)

Two other people were also arrested Thursday, London's Metropolitan Police said. Authorities have not released the identities of the other three. - CNN article

Re: Video and pic comparison at Post #25. Reviewed the video again and, in the gunned down perp scene starting at 0:46, it looks like there's another body in the road (farther up the street) that could possibly be one of the other people arrested who were mentioned in the CNN article. If so, that might explain the wall and red sign that I thought were victim scene anomalies. The possible third-perp body looks farther out into the street in the video, though, than it does in the pic where it is between the curb and the white lines. In the video it looks to be in the center of the road on a white line and to the left of it; also, seemingly farther away from the other two bodies on the ground in the video, compared to the pic distance. Edited for strikethrough because I might have been wrong about that. Not sure.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   3:00:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#4)

That is nuts! All that blood on his hands and none on his coat. Not even butchers can manage that with dead animals. They either want us to know it is fake or they are really dumb and overlook things like this. I think they want us to know it is fake.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-24   3:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#29)

That is nuts! All that blood on his hands

That is not really blood on his hands.

Look closer and harder at the YOutube video... Do not press play. Just look at the picture frame place holder.

Look at his hands. YOu should notice the two tinted squares going diagonal across the hand. Not make-up. tv fakery. computer edited.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   3:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: All (#23) (Edited)

"They came from rwanda M23 itv.com/news/update/2013-05-22­ /exclusive-video-man- with-bloo­died-hands-speaks-at-woolwich-­scene/" [Linked here: Exclusive video: Man with bloodied hands speaks at Woolwich scene -- extended video of camera-speech by the suspect; article doesn't mention Rwanda.]

"this is what he said, it is spoken over on CNN for some reason.. so here you go 'We swear by Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth. We apologise that women had to see this today but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you.' the source is the guardian news website"

Transcription of the additional statements in the itv.com article video, with prior statements included to correct some errors in the commenter's transcript at paragraph 2 above:

"By Allah, we swear by the Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone.

[This part is not in the itv.com article video: "The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is"]

"We must fight them as they fight us: an eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. We...I apologize that women had to witness this today but in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your governments. They don't care about you."

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"Do you think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? Do you think the politicians are going to die? No. It's going to be the average guy like you." [Inaudible words while walking away from the camera.]

Edited for formatting, punctuation and spelling + addition of bracketed section at the end of the transcript.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   4:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: RickyJ (#29) (Edited)

They either want us to know it is fake or they are really dumb and overlook things like this. I think they want us to know it is fake.

The only thing I can think of is that they're trying to sort out the "True Believers" from the troublemakers who will expose their plot when the JIZ pop a nuke here to blame on Iran. They could also be testing to see just how dumbed- down the sheepsters are.

Either way, it doesn't bode well for us here at 4um or ZeroHedge. We'll be rounded up and disposed of in an orderly fashion when they pull the "Big One".

I hope I'm wrong, but I'd sure like to see a better explanation for these "in your face" anomolies.

Edit: I guess it's like Sigmund Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, especially when it's a giant government cock shoved up your ass."

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-24   6:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: GreyLmist, 4um (#25) (Edited)

All righty then, we need to get a caption contest going on that pic:

Director (in blue vest to knife weilding actor): I'll get the grips to move that car so the crease in the front end is wrapped around the pole and when I yell action, you wave the knife around in the camera yelling about Allah and the infidels like in the script.

Actor (LeRoy King Smythe): Yeah, this should really scare the goyim.

Director: That's what you're getting paid for.

Actor: No kidding, I'd do anything to make money in this crappy economy. Do I smear the fake blood on now or later?

Director: We'll add that in post with CGI. Just make like a mad Muzzie, we'll clean it up later.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-24   8:30:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: wudidiz (#24)

The first homicide I ever responded to was committed by an Indian (as in Bombay) whose name was Mickey Singh. He was a dock worker in Brooklyn. It had an eerie resemblance to what I see in these pictures. He used a meat cleaver to kill his drinking buddy. Please take my comment in the spirit it’s intended as there is no better teacher than life experience. You have zero proof that this was a conspiracy and that the people involved are plants set in place to act out a scene. Many of the immigrant savages in London, NYC, Boston and all around the civilized world do in fact hate the military, and the people who cheer their mission. The explanation used by this London butcher makes complete sense to me; an eye for an eye. It’s really as simple as that; there’s no need to travel down the conspiracy trail every time something like this happens. It will eventually cheapen the word.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   9:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

Shouldn't the victim's head/neck been surrounded by a puddle of blood? and why did the perps hang around to get plugged by the bobbies?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-24   9:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod (#35) (Edited)

I understand these photos were taken by a cell phone. I'm certain more detailed ones exist. Those are the ones that would tell a clearer tale. Also, if this was staged, wouldn't it be made to look as horrific as possible by making it appear a bloody mess? To me the very open conspiracy here, and elsewhere, are the ones whereby the political class, at the behest of the MIC and banksters, wave into country these walking time bombs and then use their deeds for political utility (more war).

EDIT: As to why they stayed around after the deed, I understand only a special squad of London Bobbies are armed. My guess is that they were hoping an unarmed unit or two had the balls to respond first. Little did they know the unarmed units sipped their coffee for an extra 20 mins. while waiting for an armed unit to respond first.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   10:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36) (Edited)

Whoops! Disregard this message.

The 25 Rules of Disinformation

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

SilverStorm  posted on  2013-05-24   11:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

sorry about that.

What I was saying is that , the accused do not have a drop of blood on them.

Cleanest beheading ever.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   11:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Esso (#32)

I guess it's like Sigmund Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, especially when it's a giant government cock shoved up your ass."

Didn't know it was him that said that.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SilverStorm (#37)

They don't have a drop of blood on them.

What's on the man's hands, and why is a disinformation definition needed, especially on this 4um?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   11:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: titorite (#38)

Cleanest beheading ever

I haven't been privy to any myself, save for a chicken who ran about, willy nilly after the deed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   11:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

There was no blood visible on the ground where the alleged attackers were lying after allegedly being shot. Why no video of the actual shooting if the cameras were there?

Why is there no blood on his hands in one video and blood on his hands in another version of the exact same video?

Why does the woman with the baby carriage walk right past the headchopperoffer as he's being interviewed while holding a knife and a cleaver in his hand? As if that's all he's doing is standing there talking with knives in his hand?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: wudidiz (#42)

headchopperoffer

lol

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   11:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#42)

There was no blood visible on the ground where the alleged attackers were lying after allegedly being shot.

Maybe it was there and not captured in the pic, or depending where he was shot, perhaps his clothing was absorbing it. In fact, it's funny you mention this. I told a friend yesterday that I've seen people who had been shot who didn't bleed at all.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   11:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

What's on the man's hands, and why is a disinformation definition needed, especially on this 4um?

When I said whoops it was because I was sitting at her computer.

And that is Tint. on his hand... and after edit tint . And only his hands are tinted. His coat is clean

Butchers wear coats, they get all sorts of bloody gutting animals..

You honestly believe these animals can butcher with out getting any blood on them?

For crying out loud do not let yourself be duped~!

And please. Please watch that.. it compares the nicole kidman crime scene to this crime scene... you'll see. (I hope)

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   11:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#41)

I haven't been privy to any myself, save for a chicken who ran about, willy nilly after the deed.

You have seen people do strange and/or stupid things when under stress, right? I bet you could tell some stories that would get you labeled as a liar if you posted them here.

People are making the assumption that other people think normally when under this kind of stress. It messes with the mind. It messed with MY mind.

In a shtf, people will be running around like your headless chicken, and it will get them killed, because they underestimate this and didn't prepare for it. They think having physical objects will save them, and they totally ignore the mental aspects.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   11:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: titorite (#45)

And that is Tint. on his hand... and after edit tint . And only his hands are tinted. His coat is clean

Tint?

At what point during the act did he tint himself, and without the benefit of having seen what happened, or having access to witness statements and a more refined set of crime photos, how do you know?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   11:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jethro Tull (#44)

Tryin to spell it out for you here, JT :)

Can you tell which one is photoshopped?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:24:40 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

JT....

I am sorry for you.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   11:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: titorite (#45)

Please watch that.. it compares the nicole kidman crime scene to this crime scene... you'll see. (I hope)

Nicole Simpson

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-05-24   11:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA2 (#46)

Yes, you bet strange things happen when one is crazy, drunk, high or simply really pissed off. After the NYPD I became an RN and did a 6-month clinical rotation in the Coney Island ER. These experiences left me with one lasting impression; there is no normal way for a body to react to a trauma.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   11:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: noone222, titorite (#50)

Nicole Simpson

hahahahaha


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All, *Humor-Weird News* (#52)

Humor break...


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#51)

Yes, you bet strange things happen when one is crazy, drunk, high or simply really pissed off.

Or scared.

It's easy to look at an incident like this and wonder why and how a woman would talk to a murderer, or other people are doing other odd things. That's because they are sitting at a computer in a nice comfy area. Different state of mind entirely.

I've only been thru this once, so I'm no expert. But that is more than the monday morning quarterbacks have evidently been thru.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   11:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: All (#54)

Uh-huh.

Meanwhile, real criminals are gettin busted by hard-working, concerned policemen...


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: PSUSA2 (#54)

Dontcha feel safe now? Knowing that the scary black man is behind bars and Nanna won't be hurting anybody no more?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   11:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: wudidiz (#48)

wow. what's up with that. no blood. blood. why is there no blood in the street underneath and around the victim who had been beheaded? just asking....

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   12:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: wudidiz (#56)

the scary black man

That "scary black man" has most likely been relocated to Indianapolis or Chicago.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2013-05-24   12:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: wudidiz (#56)

Dontcha feel safe now? Knowing that the scary black man is behind bars and Nanna won't be hurting anybody no more?

They're nothing. They only destroy cities, one block at a time

Now Draconians are the niggers of the entire universe. They destroy entire star systems!

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: christine (#57)

Well, it is 2013. Maybe people can be beheaded and/or shot and there's no blood now. It's a new thing. Anyway, how the hell could everybody be in on it? Do you actually think that everyone in the City of London could possibly be in on this conspiracy? Do you think they're all lying? Do you realize how many millions thousands of people would have to be in on it? How preposterous. To even suggest that they would even try that....

Look, often your eyes will fool themselves and it's just not healthy to question everything. Anyway, we don't need to question things anymore. The media does that for us and they have the answers.

Just stop this conspiracy madness. It's really starting to get to me. It's ruining the forum and dividing the movement.

/sarc


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   12:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: wudidiz (#60)

Well, it is 2013. Maybe people can be beheaded and/or shot and there's no blood now. It's a new thing. Anyway, how the hell could everybody be in on it? Do you actually think that everyone in the City of London could possibly be in on this conspiracy? Do you think they're all lying? Do you realize how many millions thousands of people would have to be in on it? How preposterous. To even suggest that they would even try that....

Look, often your eyes will fool themselves and it's just not healthy to question everything. Anyway, we don't need to question things anymore. The media does that for us and they have the answers.

Just stop this conspiracy madness. It's really starting to get to me. It's ruining the forum and dividing the movement.

Good! You found your meds.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   12:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: wudidiz (#39)

Didn't know it was him that said that.

I might've paraphrased that just a wee bit. :)

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-24   12:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: PSUSA2 (#61)

/sarc

Good! You found your meds.

The sarcasm was before I found my "meds"


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   12:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine, Jethro Tull, All (#57)

Here's the truth about the supposed lack of blood: the victim was run over and killed, his heart was no longer pumping blood so his body retained most of his blood as it was being hacked by the islamo-nignogs. It's as simple as that. If he had been alive, yeah, blood would have been spurting all over the pavement.

When I shoot a deer and the bullet passes through (entrance and exit wound) and the deer runs a little ways it looks like somebody took a can of red krylon paint to the woods, it's a bloody trail that a blind man could follow. But, when I field-dress a deer there isn't much blood involved (exit wound or not), I generally get a little blood on my disposable surgical gloves and anything on my wrists washes right off with a little water. It's nearly bloodless considering that I'm basically operating and removing ALL of the internal organs (windpipe/lungs/heart/liver/kidneys/stomach/lower intestine) in order to have a completely empty body cavity. I suppose that I can take pictures next deer season to document the dispersal of blood during death and after death if that's what it takes to dispel the erroneous notion that the British man wasn't killed.

The blood (or lack thereof) matches the manner of death for that White Man.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-24   12:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#60)

About the bloodless beheading.

The report goes he was struck by the savages car, then attacked (see what appears to be blood in front of the car, right side) then dragged into the street (a trail of what might also be blood is evident).

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   12:23:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: X-15 (#64)

Yes, see #65 X-man.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   12:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#65) (Edited)

Assuming that the hacking and beheading happened in the street, the blood on the sidewalk came out of the victims nose/mouth/ears as his body shut down. He suffered multiple broken bones and died very quickly, if not instantly.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-24   12:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz (#60)

Well, it is 2013. Maybe people can be beheaded and/or shot and there's no blood now

or have their legs blown off and sat upright in a wheelchair for how many minutes?

no femoral gushing. no carotid artery gushing.

we're seeing medical miracles.

disclaimer: i don't know what happened in either of these two incidents, but there's certainly enough evidence in my mind to consider that there is some staging going on.

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   12:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

The report goes he was struck by the savages car, then attacked (see what appears to be blood in front of the car, right side) then dragged into the street (a trail of what might also be blood is evident).

ok. that's plausible.

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   12:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wudidiz, 4 (#63)

The sarcasm was before I found my "meds"

You need to lose them again.

This is just another example of people that have reached a conclusion and only then do they go in search of something that justifies that conclusion.

They get the process reversed.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   12:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: X-15 (#67)

Assuming that the hacking and beheading happened in the street, the blood on the sidewalk came out of the victims nose/mouth/ears as his body shut down. He suffered multiple broken bones and died very quickly, if not instantly.

Multiple times more plausible than a staged scene using tree Negros as actors.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   12:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

About the bloodless beheading.

The report goes he was struck by the savages car, then attacked (see what appears to be blood in front of the car, right side) then dragged into the street (a trail of what might also be blood is evident).

I see that, thank you.

There's still the problem of no blood on his hands in the original video and blood on his hands in the video shown on tv.

Difficult to ignore that anomaly.

The bit with the lady with the baby stroller walking right by him is a very strong indicator that something is fake about this scene.

Sorry, but I can't imagine people standing around calmly as the crowd was given the alleged circumstances.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   12:35:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

using tree Negros as actors.

laughing....

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

Multiple times more plausible than a staged scene using tree Negros as actors.

They're good liars and they'll do anything for money.

You're kidding me.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: wudidiz (#72)

There's still the problem of no blood on his hands in the original video and blood on his hands in the video shown on tv.

Difficult to ignore that anomaly.

Anomalies are why the Creator made criminal defense attorneys.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   12:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#75)

"This incident has all the earmarks of a staged event.
(1) Street blocked off by large vehicles
(2) Passersby completely unconcerned
(3) People walking up to the bloodless beheaded corpse lying in the street and making small talk with the murderers
(4) Murderer's hang around waiting for police
(5) Red hands, no other blood on the murderer
(6) people walking right by the murderer as he talks to the camera, apologizing to women for having to see such a horrific incident
(7) The requisite Allah Akbar
(8)In particular, the lady with the shopping cart. Completely unconcerned with a man wielding a meat cleaver and a headless man lying 30 feet away in the street.
(9) They erect a tent around the headless corpse so that no one can see what they do to remove him from the scene.

No, I'm sorry, this whole thing is not plausible."

youtu.be/xjUgay8rWMM


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   13:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Jethro Tull, christine, All, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#72)

About the bloodless beheading.

The report goes he was struck by the savages car, then attacked (see what appears to be blood in front of the car, right side) then dragged into the street (a trail of what might also be blood is evident).

If the guy was beheaded by t he car where the pool of blood is and dragged to the road where he was lying, he should be minus a head.

Unfortunately for the offical story spreaders and believers, the guy on the road has a head and the lady is checking his pulse and sitting on the road beside a beheaded guy with his head still on.

Still doesn't make sense.

Of course the part about them tinting his hands red to make it look like there's blood on them should throw up a red flag in the mind of any observer.

Ya'd think.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   13:24:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: wudidiz (#77)

If the guy was beheaded by t he car where the pool of blood is and dragged to the road where he was lying, he should be minus a head.

And you know the beheading was completed where the pool of (possible) blood is how? For that matter I'm not prepared to call it a beheading - partial or full - w/o more information.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   14:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: wudidiz (#76)

"This incident has all the earmarks of a staged event. (1) Street blocked off by large vehicles (2) Passersby completely unconcerned (3) People walking up to the bloodless beheaded corpse lying in the street and making small talk with the murderers (4) Murderer's hang around waiting for police (5) Red hands, no other blood on the murderer (6) people walking right by the murderer as he talks to the camera, apologizing to women for having to see such a horrific incident (7) The requisite Allah Akbar (8)In particular, the lady with the shopping cart. Completely unconcerned with a man wielding a meat cleaver and a headless man lying 30 feet away in the street. (9) They erect a tent around the headless corpse so that no one can see what they do to remove him from the scene.

No, I'm sorry, this whole thing is not plausible."

Been to crime scenes much?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   14:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

And you know the beheading was completed where the pool of (possible) blood is how? For that matter I'm not prepared to call it a beheading - partial or full - w/o more information.

Who needs information when you have people here who can just tell you what happened, because well, they say so...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-24   14:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA2, All (#80)

PSUSA2 at Post #70: "This is just another example of people that have reached a conclusion and only then do they go in search of something that justifies that conclusion.

They get the process reversed. "

FL at Post #80: "Who needs information when you have people here who can just tell you what happened, because well, they say so..."

No, this is another example of people getting the process reversed who reach a conclusion as soon as official stories are reported that the only thing objectionable about the renditions is that anyone questions and investigates further.

Cross-referencing statements from a 4um posted article by Paul Craig Roberts:

We have reached the point where evidence is no longer required. The government’s statements suffice. Only conspiracy kooks produce real evidence.

What I have noticed is that whenever a stunning episode occurs, such as 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing, most everyone whether on the right or left goes along with the government’s explanation, because they can hook their agenda to the government’s account.

The leftwing likes the official stories of Muslims creating terrorist mayhem in America, because it proves their blowback theory and satisfies them that the dispossessed and oppressed can fight back against imperialism.

The patriotic rightwing likes the official story, because it proves America is attacked for its goodness or because terrorists were allowed in by immigration authorities and nurtured by welfare, or because the government, which can’t do anything right, ignored plentiful warnings.

Whatever the government says, no matter how problematical, the official story gets its traction from its compatibility with existing predispositions and agendas.

In such a country, truth has no relevance. Only agendas are important.

A person can see this everywhere. I could write volumes illustrating how agenda-driven writers across the spectrum will support the most improbable government stories despite the absence of any evidence simply because the government’s line can be used to support their agendas.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   18:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: GreyLmist (#81)

God help us.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   18:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: GreyLmist, X-15, Jethro Tull (#81)

No, this is another example of people getting the process reversed who reach a conclusion as soon as official stories are reported that the only thing objectionable about the renditions is that anyone questions and investigates further.

So in other words the analysis by JT and X-15 are mute because they disagree with what you want to hear, or if not that, then what ARE you saying?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-24   18:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: GreyLmist (#81)

The leftwing likes the official stories of Muslims creating terrorist mayhem in America, because it proves their blowback theory

This is RPs position.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   18:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: GreyLmist (#81)

What I have noticed is that whenever a stunning episode occurs, such as 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing, most everyone whether on the right or left goes along with the government’s explanation, because they can hook their agenda to the government’s account.

That is a lie.

It pays to question everything and everyone. Including PCR.

In such a country, truth has no relevance. Only agendas are important.

Everyone has an agenda. Including PCR. There is nothing wrong about having an agenda. YOU have an agenda.

PCR is limiting the choices to believing him or believing the government. That is a false choice. I believe none of them.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   18:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: PSUSA2, GreyLmist (#85)

PCR is limiting the choices to believing him or believing the government. That is a false choice. I believe none of them.

Exactly.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-24   18:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Jethro Tull, All (#36)

if this was staged, wouldn't it be made to look as horrific as possible by making it appear a bloody mess? To me the very open conspiracy here, and elsewhere, are the ones whereby the political class, at the behest of the MIC and banksters, wave into country these walking time bombs and then use their deeds for political utility (more war).

I think they're less concerned with how convincing a staging looks than manufacturing emotional triggers for their "Clash of Civilizations" agenda or whatever else they want to have advanced unthinkingly from the aftershocks. People who aren't convinced aren't the audience they're aiming for anyway. The "Asleeples" are who will fight others over the Op production company's storylines. The rest they're probably aiming to taunt with their slapdashery. Likely their objective is to get the scenario(s) premiered on their schedule to rev up tensions, legislation, war, etc., quicker, more than getting their scriptings screened flawlessly for the public.

I also think that the open conspiracy you mentioned only increases the chances the stagers of that setting will then stage something like this using those premises to cause more conflict "believably". It's not a simple matter, imo, of: If Open Conspiracy A is True, then a Covert Conspiracy B with fakery tactics is False. I see it more as: If A is True, then B can also be True and the plausibility is higher that there is deception involved with this horrific display.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   19:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: titorite (#82)

God help us.

Amen.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   19:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: GreyLmist (#81)

We have reached the point where evidence is no longer required. The government’s statements suffice. Only conspiracy kooks produce real evidence.

What I have noticed is that whenever a stunning episode occurs, such as 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing, most everyone whether on the right or left goes along with the government’s explanation, because they can hook their agenda to the government’s account.

The leftwing likes the official stories of Muslims creating terrorist mayhem in America, because it proves their blowback theory and satisfies them that the dispossessed and oppressed can fight back against imperialism.

The patriotic rightwing likes the official story, because it proves America is attacked for its goodness or because terrorists were allowed in by immigration authorities and nurtured by welfare, or because the government, which can’t do anything right, ignored plentiful warnings.

Whatever the government says, no matter how problematical, the official story gets its traction from its compatibility with existing predispositions and agendas.

In such a country, truth has no relevance. Only agendas are important.

A person can see this everywhere. I could write volumes illustrating how agenda-driven writers across the spectrum will support the most improbable government stories despite the absence of any evidence simply because the government’s line can be used to support their agendas.

dead on, imo.

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   20:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: PSUSA2 (#85)

PCR is limiting the choices to believing him

that's not the impression i get from his words.

christine  posted on  2013-05-24   20:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Jethro Tull (#84)

The leftwing likes the official stories of Muslims creating terrorist mayhem in America, because it proves their blowback theory

This is RPs position.

Yes, blowback is Ron Paul's position. Few politicians will even go on the record that far from the official spin, on the Right or the Left. I don't know why. It's basically the official line for people who don't believe the specious spin that "they hate us for our Freedom".

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   20:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA2, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#83)

So in other words the analysis by JT and X-15 are mute

No, I didn't say that their analysis is mute. There are other analyses to consider as well.

because they disagree with what you want to hear, or if not that, then what ARE you saying?

Post #81: "this is another example of people [like you and PSUSA2] getting the process reversed who reach a conclusion as soon as official stories are reported that the only thing objectionable about the renditions is that anyone questions and investigates further."

See also: Post #87

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   20:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#90)

We have reached the point where evidence is no longer required. The government’s statements suffice. Only conspiracy kooks produce real evidence.

OK, perhaps PCR isn't a conspiracy kook? Or is he?

Either believe the conspiracy kooks because they are the "only" ones that "produce real evidence", or "The government’s statements suffice".

False choice. I believe neither.

A person can see this everywhere. I could write volumes illustrating how agenda-driven writers across the spectrum will support the most improbable government conspiracy stories despite the absence of any evidence simply because the government’s conspiracy theorists line can be used to support their agendas.

I modified that slightly.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   20:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: christine, PSUSA2, FormerLurker (#90) (Edited)

PSUSA2: PCR is limiting the choices to believing him

christine: that's not the impression i get from his words.

I didn't get that impression either.

Edited for poster recognition in the quote section.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   20:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: GreyLmist (#94)

#93

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   20:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: GreyLmist, PSUSA2, Jethro Tull, X-15, RickyJ, Original_Intent, Lod, christine (#92) (Edited)

Post #81: "this is another example of people [like you and PSUSA2] getting the process reversed who reach a conclusion as soon as official stories are reported that the only thing objectionable about the renditions is that anyone questions and investigates further."

You're lying.

I didn't give my opinion one way or another here other than agree that people are quick to jump the gun and make their proclamations without looking at all the facts.

On other matters such as Sandy Hook, Aurora, 9/11, and so forth, I NEVER believed the "official" story when it first came out or anytime thereafter. With 9/11 I FIRST thought it was controlled demolition when I saw those towers come down, and then KNEW it was most likely an inside job once the government was quick to dismiss the possibility that explosives were used.

So you cut and paste a section from a lengthy editorial and attempt to color myself and others here with the words of an author who was referring to those who believe the official story no matter what.

Well I think there are more than a few people here who know that I am not one of those people who the author was referring to...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-24   20:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: GreyLmist (#87)

I think they're less concerned with how convincing a staging looks than manufacturing emotional triggers for their "Clash of Civilizations" agenda or whatever else they want to have advanced unthinkingly from the aftershocks

Our intentionally failed illegal immigration policy – the mixing of 3rd world people with civilized people – guarantees this Clash of Civilizations you mention. Forced national integration, driven by the erasure of our borders, has injected US and others with an element of people who have no desire to integrate, nor adopt to the cultural norms of the host country. Speaking of 3rd world swill, I have yet to hear a motive for the London crime from those who push forward the Actors Guild Theory. Why would government cobble together a troupe of actors when actual murderous anger exists among many? For an element of people to jump down the rabbit hole of government inspired actors, sans proof, is to diminish any effort to expose the very people we both know are destroying nations.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   20:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FormerLurker (#96)

I didn't give my opinion one way or another here other than agree that people are quick to jump the gun and make their proclamations without looking at all the facts.

Same here.

So you cut and paste a section from a lengthy editorial and attempt to color myself and others here with the words of an author who was referring to those who believe the official story no matter what.

That's it. PCR is no fool. He knows what he's doing. He's lumping those of us that don't automatically believe the alternative media with those that always believe the .gov story.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-24   20:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine, Ada (#89)

Pinging a nod to Ada who posted the Paul Craig Roberts article for us.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   20:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: GreyLmist, Jethro Tull (#87)

A video pointing out. :)

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-24   21:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: titorite (#100)

I really don't know where this 'tube is going with tint. I'd love to interview the kid who made it and learn about his level of expertise, or lack thereof.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   21:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: titorite (#100)

untrusty worthy

lol


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   21:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Jethro Tull, titorite (#101)

I really don't know where this 'tube is going with tint.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=155178&Disp=48#C48


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-24   21:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Jethro Tull (#97) (Edited)

Forced national integration, driven by the erasure of our borders, has injected US and others with an element of people who have no desire to integrate, nor adopt to the cultural norms of the host country.

Agreed.

I have yet to hear a motive for the London crime from those who push forward the Actors Guild Theory. Why would government cobble together a troupe of actors when actual murderous anger exists among many?

Catalytic scheduling convenience to speed up their agenda advancements predictably, on their terms. Suggestive/Subliminal messaging, of a sort, maybe -- to kick-start copycat crimes and whatnot. Impatience that the Clash of Civilizations they want hasn't happened yet because the majority of people have been more civilized than was expected.

For an element of people to jump down the rabbit hole of government inspired actors, sans proof, is to diminish any effort to expose the very people we both know are destroying nations.

I don't think pointing out their deceptions diminishes efforts to reveal their nation destroying agendas and who those agendists are. I think it is supportive reinforcement and expansion of those efforts.

Edited for spacing and formatting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   21:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: wudidiz (#103)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=155178&Disp=48#C48

The 2nd and 3rd pictures are not the same....look at the backdrop of the pole on his right, and in the 3rd pic I see no knife. Were they taken at the same time? If yes, how do you know. If no, where is the knife?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   21:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: GreyLmist (#104)

Catalytic scheduling convenience to speed up their agenda advancements predictably, on their terms. Suggestive/Subliminal messaging, of a sort, maybe -- to kick-start copycat crimes and whatnot. Impatience that the Clash of Civilizations they want hasn't happened yet because the majority of people have been more civilized than was expected.

For an element of people to jump down the rabbit hole of government inspired actors, sans proof, is to diminish any effort to expose the very people we both know are destroying nations.

I don't think pointing out their deceptions diminishes efforts to reveal their nation destroying agendas and who those agendists are. I think it is supportive reinforcement and expansion of those efforts.

Edited for spacing.

They can accomplish all this by simply waving in bands of assassins, or assassin trainees.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   21:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: titorite (#100)

I watched the video that came on next too. Very good. It reminded me of this article:

Google's Plan To Take Over The World - Business Insider

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   21:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Jethro Tull (#97)

Our intentionally failed illegal immigration policy – the mixing of 3rd world people with civilized people – guarantees this Clash of Civilizations you mention.

Our?

Not mine. Or yours.

Who then?

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-24   21:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Esso (#108)

Our?

Not mine. Or yours.

Who then?

As in driven by national governments at the behest of the youknowwhos

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-24   21:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Jethro Tull (#106) (Edited)

They can accomplish all this by simply waving in bands of assassins, or assassin trainees.

That wouldn't be as economical, probably, or as compartmentalized as a few villainous actors. Would make the stage managers look more inept at their "securing the realm" jobs, too, if bands of rampaging assassins were running amuck. More could go wrong with their plans. Such as: If real assassins decided to defect from their handlers, uh-oh. Would put them at risk.

Edited next to last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-24   22:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

As in driven by national governments at the behest of the youknowwhos

There you go.

Diversity for thee, but not for me.

By deception...

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-05-24   22:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA2, wudidiz (#96)

you cut and paste a section from a lengthy editorial and attempt to color myself and others here with the words of an author who was referring to those who believe the official story no matter what.

I think the statements by both of you that I quoted at the top of Post #81, as well as Post #61 by PSUSA2 to wudidiz, color themselves as demonstrative of existing predispositions compatible with the official story's decrees about this. Evidently, your only objections concerning officialdom's rendition of the topic under discussion in this thread have been against those who question it and investigate further. I don't need to see a resume of your posting history to know that. Paul Craig Roberts talked about those of the masses (Left and Right) who go along with the government’s explanation because they can hook their agenda to the government’s account. Even if you insist that you are Independents who aren't hooking any agenda to the government's account, you are assisting those who do that by your denigrations of people who are gathering and studying evidentiary information beyond the gov-issued version.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   0:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=155178&Disp=48#C48

The 2nd and 3rd pictures are not the same....look at the backdrop of the pole on his right, and in the 3rd pic I see no knife. Were they taken at the same time? If yes, how do you know. If no, where is the knife?

I only took some screenshots while watching the video:

Here.

It's the same video with two versions: One with cgi red tinting on his hands and knives, One without.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-25   0:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: wudidiz (#113)

I watched this news story on BBC News last night and there was no mention of the beheading, just that he was killed. I told my friend when the news item started that he was beheaded but the news segment never mentioned that word.

They showed the cell phone footage of the meat cleaver butcher actor, with a graphic warning. He had the tinted red hands in the version I saw.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-05-25   1:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: GreyLmist (#112)

Even if you insist that you are Independents who aren't hooking any agenda to the government's account, you are assisting those who do that by your denigrations of people who are gathering and studying evidentiary information beyond the gov-issued version.

If there is evidence, present it.

If it can withstand questioning, then you did your job well.

There is no "denigrations of people". It is the questioning of their "evidence".

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-25   7:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#115)

(GLm) gov-issued version

(PissSUSA) If there is evidence, present it.

In the real world, the onus is on the accuser to prove guilt using evidence.

So, where is it?

What do they got?

They got nothing.

Hearsay and fake cgi video.

It's laughable.

The jews serve the devil. Their god is the devil...

The devil's advocate serves...

wait for it...

the devil.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-25   12:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: wudidiz, PSUSA2, X-15, Jetrho Tull (#116)

In the real world, the onus is on the accuser to prove guilt using evidence.

So here you are accusing everyone involved in this event of being guilty, saying that they are actors.

But I think a few people here have already demonstrated that what you claim is not proof, so if you have anything beyond a few screen captures and unfounded speculation, then post it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-25   12:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: GreyLmist, PSUSA2, X-15. Jethro Tull (#112)

I think the statements by both of you that I quoted at the top of Post #81, as well as Post #61 by PSUSA2 to wudidiz, color themselves as demonstrative of existing predispositions compatible with the official story's decrees about this.

I don't believe in the Easter Bunny either, so does that make me a bad man?

You are grasping at straws, gyrating in all sorts of directions accusing me of some sort of evil deed. Why is that I wonder?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-25   12:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: All (#117)

Just some idle thoughts about the actor theory.

Have you considered what the government pitch might have sounded like?

MI5 agent to Abdul and Aamir, aspiring thespians;

“Assalm Ayakhum my brothers, I have a gig for you in London. I’d like you to close your magic carpet shop early today, drive over to the military base, run over the first soldier you see, stab him, then continue the assault with a meat cleaver. After that, drag him into the street while at the same time applying red tint on your hands either before, during or after conducting an onsite street interview. The gig ends with you both hanging around waiting to get shot by the police. After your prison sentence, and possible rendition, I promise to get you work in Summer stock, perhaps some Othello in an open air theater? Sound good"?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-25   12:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

You don't think it is odd that people did not seem afraid of these guys who supposedly just killed someone and still had a bloody knife and meat cleaver in their hands? It is very odd for a killer to wait around for the police to show up and do interviews with random people after murdering someone.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-25   13:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: RickyJ (#120)

His own words indicated that his sole target was the soldier and his motive was an “eye for an eye” re; these endless wars in the Middle East and Africa. He didn’t menace anyone else to my knowledge, so that could explain the onlookers behavior.

He was armed with a gun and he did try and shoot the police w/they arrived, so to go out in a blaze of glory is at least one explanation as to why they stayed at the scene.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-25   13:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: RickyJ, Jethro Tull (#120)

It is very odd for a killer to wait around for the police to show up and do interviews with random people after murdering someone.

He might have been jacked up on something, who knows.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-25   14:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: PSUSA2 (#115)

If there is evidence, present it.

If it can withstand questioning, then you did your job well.

Cross-referencing some evidence at Post #13 of 4um Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?

There is no "denigrations of people". It is the questioning of their "evidence".

I don't agree.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   17:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: GreyLmist (#123)

fires his machine-gun

idiots dont even know what a machine gun is.

" It looked real but wasn't."

Why? What is it you'd expect in a shooting?

" I don't agree. "

That's your right.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-25   17:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: PSUSA2 (#124) (Edited)

Me at Post #13 of another thread: " It looked real but wasn't."

You: Why? What is it you'd expect in a shooting?

I said that about "a staged shootout at an Old West-styled facility that even had tumbling from a roof involved." What I'd personally expect in a shooting that wasn't staged isn't really a question about the evidence presented there. Do you have any? What do you think would be the reasoning of the blade-weilding guy with no gun running up to a squad car where he could be shot as he was, according to the gov-issued version? Just wanted to commit suicide-by-cop, look scary and maybe do some damage to the vehicle before he was gunned down, tasered or otherwise incapacitated?

Edited to expand the last sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   20:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

His own words indicated that his sole target was the soldier and his motive was an “eye for an eye” re; these endless wars in the Middle East and Africa. He didn’t menace anyone else to my knowledge, so that could explain the onlookers behavior.

He was armed with a gun and he did try and shoot the police w/they arrived, so to go out in a blaze of glory is at least one explanation as to why they stayed at the scene.

The guy who reportedly had a gun isn't the guy who made a speech on camera. Neither one went out in a blaze of glory and I don't think they could have been certain they would be "martyred" there rather than apprehended alive, as they officially were.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   21:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: GreyLmist (#125)

What do you think would be the reasoning of the blade-weilding guy with no gun running up to a squad car where he could be shot as he was, according to the gov-issued version?

Most london cops aren't armed, right? Something probably went thru its primitive little mind like "they be unarmed, nome sayin'?"

SURPRISE! Blam! Blam! Blam! He guessed wrong.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-25   21:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: FormerLurker (#118) (Edited)

Me at Post #112: "I think the statements by both of you that I quoted at the top of Post #81, as well as Post #61 by PSUSA2 to wudidiz, color themselves as demonstrative of existing predispositions compatible with the official story's decrees about this."

You at #118: I don't believe in the Easter Bunny either, so does that make me a bad man?

You are grasping at straws, gyrating in all sorts of directions accusing me of some sort of evil deed. Why is that I wonder?

You just best leave the Easter Bunny out of this, ya hear? Unless you're a Christian, I don't expect that you have faith in Easter anything. And likewise leave me out of your accusatory gyrating-straws, Fantasia-like cartoon to keep making this about you. It's ok by me if you disagree with what I said and with what PCR said too. Enough said about your malingering so or should be, imo.

Edited for punctuation.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   21:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: GreyLmist (#128)

Slap me then cry out in pain, as usual.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-25   21:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: FormerLurker (#129)

Slap me then cry out in pain, as usual.

That's your M.O. by my observations.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   21:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: PSUSA2 (#127) (Edited)

Most london cops aren't armed, right? Something probably went thru its primitive little mind like "they be unarmed, nome sayin'?"

SURPRISE! Blam! Blam! Blam! He guessed wrong.

Be serious. You don't really think they expected cops would be called to a gruesome murder scene without so much as a stun gun or mace or even a net to throw over him, do you? -- not to mention they could have just kept the windows of the car rolled up and drove off or run into him. If you actually believe he thought they were there to ask him nicely to surrender, there goes the going-out-in-a-blaze-of-glory martyrdom theories, eh?

Edited for spacing + 2nd sentence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-25   22:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: GreyLmist (#130) (Edited)

What it comes down to GL is that I hadn't expressed my opinion of what happened one way or the other, yet you jump all over me as if I had somehow done so.

I simply agreed with another poster that people are quick to decide on what happened then try to find evidence of what they've already decided upon.

And that is how things seem to have gone. That you find offense in that well sorry, but I have a right to express my opinions as well as anyone else here.

Now unless you wish to discuss anything of merit in regards to what happened in London, please stop posting this sort of nonsense.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-25   22:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA2, Jethro Tull, wudidiz (#132) (Edited)

What it comes down to GL is that I hadn't expressed my opinion of what happened one way or the other, yet you jump all over me as if I had somehow did.

I simply agreed with another poster that people are quick to decide on what happened then try to find evidence of what they've already decided upon.

No, FL. I haven't jumped all over you by posting article excerpts that were and still are relevant, imo, to the situation noted and my comment about it. What you are claiming above is not simply what you said, nor was there actually any such poster-agreement by you at the point I referenced. If you had looked at the links I provided with the pertinent examples of PSUSA2's statments and yours, I should not have to walk you back through the exchanges to try and put an end to this matter but here goes:

Jethro Tull at Post #78 to wudidiz at Post #77, both of whom were discussing the evidence in question. This is the statement by JT at #78 [to wudidiz] that you commented on to him:

"And you know the beheading was completed where the pool of (possible) blood is how? For that matter I'm not prepared to call it a beheading - partial or full - w/o more information."

Your statement to JT quoted by me at Post #81 [which essentially had nothing to do with him being of the opinion that people are quick to decide on what happened then try to find evidence of what they've already decided upon -- just that he required more information himself as to whether there had even been a beheading; basically in agreement with wudidiz, who also questioned that, but JT was asserting that the "if" factors involved in the debate as to where the alleged beheading likely occured in the scenario or not were unknowable then and inconclusive, as was the alleged blood]:

FL at Post #80 [to Jethro Tull at Post #78]: "Who needs information when you have people here who can just tell you what happened, because well, they say so..."

Your last out of kilter posting to me continued at #132:

And that is how things seem to have gone. That you find offense in that well sorry, but I have a right to express my opinions as well as anyone else here.

Now unless you wish to discuss anything of merit in regards to what happened in London, please stop posting this sort of nonsense.

Walk your talk about anyone else here having a right to express their opinions as well, FL. That you persist in taking so much offense to my opinion of your opinion, along with someone else's, as a Paul Craig Roberts seminar-opportunity for us is overly resentful or afflicted of you, in the range of self-absorption, and wanton disregard for anything of merit in regards to what happened in London. Either address the evidence, such as I posted at #13 in another thread, or please just stop posting this sort of recycled rigamarole to me.

Edited line above the last quoted section from #132 + for formatting, punctuation and spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-26   1:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: GreyLmist (#130) (Edited)

That's your M.O. by my observations.

TELL ME ABOUT IT!~

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

titorite  posted on  2013-05-26   2:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: *Post Of The Day* (#133)

(FL) And that is how things seem to have gone. That you find offense in that well sorry, but I have a right to express my opinions as well as anyone else here.

Now unless you wish to discuss anything of merit in regards to what happened in London, please stop posting this sort of nonsense.

(GLm) Walk your talk about anyone else here having a right to express their opinions as well, FL. That you persist in taking so much offense to my opinion of your opinion, along with someone else's, as a Paul Craig Roberts seminar-opportunity for us is overly resentful or afflicted of you, in the range of self-absorption, and wanton disregard for anything of merit in regards to what happened in London. Either address the evidence, such as I posted at #13 in another thread, or please just stop posting this sort of recycled rigamarole to me.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   3:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: GreyLmist (#133) (Edited)

Blah blah blah blah blah.

See, I can do stuff like you do.

Now unless you wish to discuss anything of merit in regards to what happened in London, please stop posting this sort of nonsense.

[Might edit for grammer and spelling, line 01]


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   11:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: wudidiz, christine (#135)

It's quite obvious that you and your friends love to gang up on me just for the sake of ganging up on me, with no justifiable reason at all, it's just because you CAN.

GL will post thousands of words with circular links and reasoning, where it all started out of thin air.

Then you cry because I ask her to stop posting this sort of nonsense. How hypocritical of you all.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   12:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: GreyLmist (#126)

The guy who reportedly had a gun isn't the guy who made a speech on camera. Neither one went out in a blaze of glory and I don't think they could have been certain they would be "martyred" there rather than apprehended alive, as they officially were.

They were skilled in carving however, and as I mentioned previously, most of London's Bobbies are unarmed. My guess is that they hung around hoping an unarmed unit responded first.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-26   13:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Jethro Tull (#138) (Edited)

Knowing he was an actor, it makes sense why he would throw the knife on the ground immediately before reaching the car full of policemen he was running to.

One has to pay attention to All the details.

Not just the ones that fit the official story.

(edited because i didn't edit it properly before i posted it the first time;)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   13:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Jethro Tull, GreyLmist (#138)

It's quite obvious the "immigrants" throughout Europe are chimping out and are on a rampage. There's no need for actors when you have the real thing readily available.

I don't know why there's this new craze of "it was all staged, they were all actors". It's the new fad I guess, and to be seen as "genuine" one needs to blindy accept anything stated in those terms, because otherwise a person might be seen as a government bootlicker or something...

So there we go, NOW I HAVE stated an opinion on this matter for anyone who's watching.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Jethro Tull, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#138)

JT, the GLARING anomaly of the cgi (computer graphic imaging) (tinted) red hands and knives does not fit with the official story.

There is computer software available for download off the internet that shows very clearly how his hands are not covered in blood. In fact, there is no blood on him or his knives at all. This is concrete evidence that the video is fake and should lead one to next wonder wtf exactly did happen if he had no blood on him?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Jethro Tull, All (#141)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=155178&Disp=48#C48


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: wudidiz, Jethro Tull (#139)

Knowing he was an actor

You don't KNOW that. You BELIEVE it, but you don't KNOW it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: wudidiz (#141)

JT, the GLARING anomaly of the cgi (computer graphic imaging) (tinted) red hands and knives does not fit with the official story.

Who did the tampering though? Was it done prior to actual broadcast, or was it done after the fact?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Jethro Tull, All (#142)

Tryin to spell it out for you here, JT :)

Can you tell which one is photoshopped?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:10:45 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: All (#145)

What I am trying to explain here for anyone that is having a hard time understanding, is that cgi was used to tint the actor's hands and knives in order to create the illusion that he had blood on his hands and knives. The use fancy new-fangled high tech computer software that does this quite easily.

This is not new technology.

My sources tell me it's been around for a few years.

Apparently they use it for Hollywood movies and television programs.

Who knew?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FormerLurker, wud, GreyLmist (#140)

It's quite obvious the "immigrants" throughout Europe are chimping out and are on a rampage. There's no need for actors when you have the real thing readily available.

This forced national illegal immigration is the key to the breakdown of nationalism and eventual sovereignty. This is what we see in Britain, Sweden, and here in the US. The only acting these mutts are doing is pretending to be functioning humans. They hate their host nations, and unfortunately our foreign policy has only added more fuel to their fire. As a kid growing up in Brooklyn I recall my father saying if you want steak, you don't go to a Chinese restaurant. To carry that Archie Bunkerism a little further, if you want a murderer you don't hire an actor, you simply invite the global downtrodden into your nation and let them simmer prior to explosion. Now if you want to talk conspiracy, lets discuss how s'bag politicians, and the accomplices in the media, exploit these killings. The highly scripted roles they play, post incident, are worthy of an Academy Award nomination.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-26   14:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FormerLurker (#136)

unless you wish to discuss anything of merit in regards to what happened in London, please stop posting this sort of nonsense.

You're working too hard at this, FL. Try this time to skip the part where you interpret any reply at all to you from me as an affront somehow and just go to the section of the post below that lists 3 photos, then give us just your opinion on those, please. TIA.

Post #13 of 4um Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-26   14:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

Now if you want to talk conspiracy, lets discuss how s'bag politicians, and the accomplices in the media, exploit these killings. The highly scripted roles they play, post incident, are worthy of an Academy Award nomination.

High paid actors/liars they are too.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: GreyLmist (#148)

You are focusing on me rather than on the story. Why is that? Is it that you have nothing of merit to say, so you just heap scorn me to have SOMETHING to post on this thread, or is it that you have an agenda to carry out?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: GreyLmist (#148)

You're working too hard at this, FL. Try this time to skip the part where you interpret any reply at all to you from me as an affront somehow

Agreed. Quality of effort is more infinitely important than quantity of effort.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: wudidiz, Jethro Tull, All (#146)

is that cgi was used to tint the actor's hands and knives in order to create the illusion that he had blood on his hands and knives

If you hadn't cried wolf so many times in this regard perhaps I would have watched the videos on this sooner. In this particular case you MIGHT be correct in that the video has been modified (poorly I would say) to make the red appear brighter.

It doesn't explain the witness accounts nor does it explain why or how a large number of British police would lie about a soldier being murdered on the streets of London.

But yes, it DOES appear that the video has been doctored. It would not be called CGI however. That would be more of a completely fabricated image such as the characters in Shrek or Toy Story.

This would be simple video editing.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: wudidiz, GreyLmist, 4um (#151)

I'm pretty sure people here can see that the two of you are making a concerted effort to personally attack me on this and other threads on this forum.

Are you on a mission where you get paid for this at least, or are you just auditioning for the job?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: FormerLurker, Jethro Tull, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#152)

Thank you.

FL, there is no red on his hands.

The red lines on the road also turn orange when the red tint is removed from the vid.

No explanation for the witnesses and police saying anything contrary.

If anyone says he had blood on his hands they are either lying or misinformed.

We KNOW this because we have solid video evidence of the actor with no blood on his hands.

Very elementary logic.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: FormerLurker (#153)

I'm pretty sure people here can see that the two of you are making a concerted effort to personally attack me on this and other threads on this forum.

Are you on a mission where you get paid for this at least, or are you just auditioning for the job?

I can't deny there has been a concerted effort amongst those of us who disagree with you against you and those that agree with you. It's natural isn't it?

This is a hobby for me. I like to discover the truth about our history and debate it online. I have no hidden agenda. Except maybe a subconcsious avoidance of matters arguably more pertinent to my life.

I dont get paid for this, in fact I'm losing money as I type.

It's fun and I do it out of an obligation to my fellow humans to share what I've discovered with them.

Including you, my friend.

Don't know what the hell you mean about the madonna thing. You're nuts :)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: All (#155)

Now I'm gonna have a smoke and get stupid.

This shit gets to be too much sometimes ;)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   14:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: wudidiz, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#154)

Take a peek at this article...

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re....cgi?ArtNum=155260&Disp=0


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   14:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: wudidiz (#155)

Don't know what the hell you mean about the madonna thing. You're nuts :)

The posts awhile back concerning claims that she was performing a "satanic ritual" during the Super Bowl.

I guess I was confusing you with another person, where you did post on that thread but you weren't one who was actually getting all upset, that was someone else.

So then I guess this all derives from the no-planes topic then, right?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   15:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: wudidiz (#149)

High paid actors/liars they are too.

What's the going rate for getting shot and spending the rest of your life in jail?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-26   15:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Jethro Tull (#159)

The govt didn't hold up their end of the contract.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   15:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: FormerLurker (#153) (Edited)

I'm pretty sure people here can see that the two of you are making a concerted effort to personally attack me on this and other threads on this forum.

I have tried repeatedly to discuss the issues and evidence reasonably with you, FL, and not you personally -- as you incessantly insist on doing while relentlessly focusing on me personally as the turbulence problem. You have demonstrated that you are well able to discuss topically with others of differing viewpoints from yours, even though I don't recall having been uncivil to you. So, I'm not going to bozo your contributions to this 4um, FL, but this is the last reply from me to you that I'm going to send under these circumstances because I do not want to deal with the constant risk that whatever I say will be turned into something concerted or otherwise against your personhood. Over and out...

Edited for spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-26   16:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

This forced national illegal immigration is the key to the breakdown of nationalism and eventual sovereignty. This is what we see in Britain, Sweden, and here in the US. The only acting these mutts are doing is pretending to be functioning humans.

Missile of Truth.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-26   16:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: X-15 (#162)

Missile of Truth.

So wait... A white man in norway kills a bunch of white kids to start the race war and nothing happens.

Some black dude participates in a flase flag so shitty ,a 3 year old can see the lines of tint and Boom world wide race war?

I doubt it.

I have no clue whats going down in Sweden either... But I sure hope they are not tearing up their towns like the people they oppose proly would .....

just saying.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-26   17:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: titorite (#163) (Edited)

Anders Breivik targeted the Marxist-youth because he was rooting out the future scum. He was captured. Why would the Marxists take to the streets??

Foreign Nigger killing a White Man because he admitted that he was a muslim acting on the tenets of Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.

Big difference.

As for your assertion that this was a "false flag" event: where is the dead soldier, Lee Rigby?? Don't tell me that "he's on a secret island!" or that "well, he was killed somewhere else!". Please, that would be rubbish and intellectually dishonest.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-26   17:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: X-15 (#164)

Except the blood is fake! The event A flase Flag meant to manipulate us.

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

titorite  posted on  2013-05-26   17:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: titorite (#165)

I just don't understand that at all.

Here's your goddamned blood, courtesy of the retarded 9th century head-choppers:

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Here's blood from a living creature with a pumping heart:

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-26   17:49:47 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: X-15 (#166)

Their is no point in making a comparison. I get that they are sick fuck cultists as bad as the orthadox pedophile jews.

I get that.

But this event in london is something else

Ones eyes should see truth and never shy from it.

Lodon is not what the Main stream media is presenting.

Not anymore than 19 arabs stole planes and crashed into the US on 911...

False flag.

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

titorite  posted on  2013-05-26   17:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Esso (#33)

All righty then, we need to get a caption contest going on that pic:

Director (in blue vest to knife weilding actor): I'll get the grips to move that car so the crease in the front end is wrapped around the pole and when I yell action, you wave the knife around in the camera yelling about Allah and the infidels like in the script.

Actor (LeRoy King Smythe): Yeah, this should really scare the goyim.

Director: That's what you're getting paid for.

Actor: No kidding, I'd do anything to make money in this crappy economy. Do I smear the fake blood on now or later?

Director: We'll add that in post with CGI. Just make like a mad Muzzie, we'll clean it up later.

i am giggling, my cynical friend. ;)

christine  posted on  2013-06-01   18:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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