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Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?
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Published: May 24, 2013
Author: Stephen Lendman
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Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag? by Stephen Lendman Reports said two assailants hacked a British soldier to death. He's been identified as Lee Rigby. He was killed in broad daylight. It was several hundred meters from southeast London's Woolwich Royal Artillery barracks. Weapons included a machete type knife. Alleged attackers remained on the scene. They did so until police arrived 20 minutes later. Why wasn't explained. Killers don't usually stay around to be captured. Both assailants were shot and apprehended. They were hospitalized for treatment. One allegedly said "(w)e must fight as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." Britain's ITV news aired an edited video clip. Allegedly an onlooker filmed it. How whoever did so happened to be on site wasn't explained. Odds against it are huge. So is remaining unscathed. Assailants don't take kindly to being caught in the act. The clip showed a young Black man with blood dripping from his hands saying "(w)e swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you." "The only reason reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day." "The British soldier is an eye for eye, a tooth for a tooth." ITV edited the statement. It said nothing about "do(ing) this because Muslims are dying every day." Unedited it said: "There are many, many ayah (religious verses) throughout the Koran that says we must fight them as they fight us, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." "I apologize that women had to witness this today but in our land women have to see the same." "You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you." "You think David Cameron will get stuck in the street, when we start busting our guns?" "You think your politicians are gonna die? not it's gonna be the average like you, and your children." "So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back, so you can all live in peace." Reports called what happened the first domestic Al Qaeda-inspired attack since the July 7, 2005 underground (so-called 7/7) bombings. A series of attacks targeted the city's public transport system. They came during the morning rush hour. They were for maximum disruption and casualties. At precisely the same time, an anti-terror drill occurred. It simulated real attacks. It was no coincidence. The real attack was a false flag. It was done to heighten fear. At issue was enlisting public sentiment to keep Britain allied with Washington's imperial wars. At the time, AP reported that Israel's London embassy warned Scotland Yard in advance. Israeli Army Radio said: "Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred." No action was taken. Israel's then finance minister Netanyahu was told to skip a London economic conference. He was scheduled to speak. Other officials were warned, not the public. Fifty-two people died. Over 700 were injured. These type incidents automatically raise questions. Answers are needed before jumping to conclusions. The timing of Wednesday's killing is very suspicious. It comes when Washington, Britain, other NATO allies, and Israel head toward full-scale war on Syria. Secretary of State John Kerry's traveling through the Middle East. A so-called June peace conference is scheduled. It's subterfuge. Prior peace initiatives failed. So will this one. Demanding Assad must go assures it. Washington's proxy war was launched to do so. Expect no change of plans now. Kerry met with foreign ministers of 11 so-called Friends of Syria countries and opposition group representatives. He discussed Syria with Netanyahu in Jerusalem. Multiple Israeli provocations preceded his visit. On May 23, Haaretz said Israel's "maintaining intense intelligence activity in Syria and working with local villagers." It's considering a covert Syrian "proxy force." It claims doing so will protect Israeli security. Israel's armed forces are very able on their own. A so-called proxy force, if established, is clearly provocative. It heads things closer to full-scale intervention. Washington and Israel partner in all regional belligerence. They jointly plan and implement conflicts. Kerry's trip coincides with Washington's plan to ramp up support for so-called "rebels." He demands Assad must go. He's uncompromising. So is Obama. Full-scale conflict could erupt any time. Manufactured pretexts make it easier. False flags are longstanding pre-war tactics. They're US/Israeli specialties. Britain's an active co-conspirator. Muslim extremism was blamed for Wednesday's London killing. We've seen this all before. Expect heightened Islamophobia ahead. UK, US, other key NATO allies, and Israel benefit most. They'll take full advantage. British MP George Galloway said "(t)his sickening atrocity in London is exactly what we are paying the same kind of people to do in Syria." True enough. He omitted explaining what appears most important. Washington and complicit allies manufacture pretexts. They did so to justify proxy war on Syria. It's a short step to intervening full-blown. They've done it before. They manipulate public sentiment. They fabricated reasons to attack Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. They're doing so against Iran. They want public support. Stoking anti-Muslim rage enlists it. Post-9/11, Bush's Afghan war was popular. Few knew what's now more apparent. Fewer understood Washington's imperial agenda. Multiple wars followed. New ones are planned. The entire region and beyond may become embroiled in conflict. Advancing America's imperium matters most. At issue is creating pretexts to do so. Perhaps London's incident is the latest. The fullness of time will explain more. Prime Minister David Cameron convened an emergency meeting. Top advisors and intelligence officials attended. UK Home Secretary, Theresa May, called an emergency Civil Contingencies Committee (COBRA) meeting. Cameron chaired it. It includes cabinet ministers and high-level security officials. It deals with terrorism and other major crises. COBRA refers to the room where committee members meet - Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. A terrorist alert was imposed. Heightened security steps were taken. These measures don't commonly follow street killings. It doesn't matter how gruesome. Most incidents get scant coverage. Many go unnoticed. This one suggests something bigger. What happened may be pretext for what's planned. It remains to be seen what follows. Peter Eyre is a Middle East consultant, geopolitical analyst, investigative journalist, anti-war activist, and valued Progressive Radio News Hour guest. He jumped on the Woolrich incident. He discussed justifiable reasons to doubt the legitimacy of official reports. They have a distinct aroma. They fall short of truth and full disclosure. On May 23, Eyre headlined "Woolwich beheading: Security tightened at all London army barracks." His detailed analysis includes images. "The gruesome scene of a decapitated actor with no police or paramedics at the scene and no blood," he said. The "offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!" Many awakened "to this amazing Shakespearean play that has unfolded in Woolwich, London where all the actors were so bad they would not even qualify for an interview as an extra in some third rate movie!!" Eyre asked if police "drag(ged) the (victim's) body around the corner?" "BBC stated a man wearing a Help the Hero's T Shirt was hit by a car, then attacked and killed with a machete or sword by the cars occupants." (S)o much vivid violence and yet still no blood at the scene…why?" "(B)ecause the actors had not had time to splash it around before they filmed the scene." "(I)t was however added later as the picture (in his article) shows…the blood is only on the pavement and not on the road!!" "(D)o you think they attempted to copy the Boston Bombing but somehow did not get it right?" Eyre suggested that blood on a signpost was "Tomato Ketchup!!" Key is calling the incident Islamic terrorism. Doing so automatically raises suspicions. Most often, the usual suspects are patsies. They're props for planned state-sponsored mischief. Expect UK, America, Israel and imperial allies to take full advantage. Police state harshness may increase. Waging war on Islam will continue. Doing so full-scale against Syria appears likely. What's long planned may erupt any time. A Final Comment UK media reports identified one alleged attacker. Twenty-eight year old Michael Abebolajo grew up in Romford. He comes from a Christian family. In 2003, he converted to Islam. A man who knew his family said they were very pleasant. Friends called him very quiet. In school, he was a good guy, they said. They were shocked to learn a former schoolmate faces murder charges. Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. His new book is titled "Banker Occupation: Waging Financial War on Humanity." http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanII.html Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com. Listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network. It airs Fridays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening. http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-hour http://www.dailycensored.com/woolrich-london-killing-terrorism-or-false-flag/
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#22. To: GreyLmist (#21)
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Archive of posts on the London Attack 4um Title: London's false flag even more pathetic than the Boston Bombing 4um Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag? 25 Questions about the woolwich attack that need to be answered! - Posted by wudidiz at #135 of 4um Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT Edited for additional filing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
4um Title: FWIW ... [Posted by Katniss] In more recent news: villainry from the Arabian Peninsula again, addressed to the U.S.: The six minute Arabic-language audio statement by Qasim al-Rimi, entitled “Message to the American Nation” was released on the Internet with English subtitles by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), || Video 2 [at FWIW ...]: Film of the alleged victim scene and also the alleged perp scene officers on-site at 1:59 corresponding to this pic. 4um references: Photo B at #13 of this thread + #236 and #240 archived here. Published 1 June 2013 at dailymail.co.uk: Woolwich murder, the MI6 connection: Younger brother of Michael Adebolajo 'was paid thousands to spy in Middle East' -- questionable alleged sibling pics: Jeremiah aka Abul Jaleel (reportedly the younger brother of Michael but looks much like him ) and supposedly the older sister, Blessing, at Pic example 1 and Pic example 2 (which comparatively looks like it could be 2 different people) Edited for formatting. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I don't understand why the West fails to believe the words of muslims, from OBL to these whackers, when they say that they will continue to attack us as long as we're invading/occupying their countries. Believe them, please. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Insanity is thinking everything is a false flag/conspiracy. Someday perhaps there will be a cure for this kind of dementia. "Have Brain, Will Travel
Questions about the woolwich attack that need to be answered! Thinking that everything is a false flag/conspiracy to anyone skeptical about this and other suspected stagings is an illogical accusation to demean others. What's the number limit on false flag/conspiracy/hoaxings? If you're waiting for a public announcement from operatives, officials and the media when they're involved in such, don't. Edited sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Believe them, please. I don't think we have to believe all statements of retribution alleged to be Al Qaeda's just because the West and Israel are targeting Islamics and occupying their lands. Nor do I think this alleged attack has to be real because of that and other ongoing problems of immigration, religion and race. This article, the second one that I posted at the last paragraph of #23, mentions Anjem Choudary [aka Andy Choudary/screen name Abou Luqman] as an associate of Adebolajo/Suspect #1. Choudary is described there as a hate preacher but has been interviewed as a Muslim spokesperson in the British media and on FOX here in America by Sean Hannity. He's described at Wikipedia as a student and associate of Omar Bakri Muhammad/Fostock who is described there as an Islamist militant leader. Clicking the links for the names of some of his other students indicates the possibility of militant Muslim imposters. Edited to reword sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Someday perhaps there will be a cure for this kind of dementia. No cure for people wanting to be "special" and privy to "super double top- secret knowledge" that elevates them to internet demi-god status. They can't quit hitting that pipe long enough to see how funny they sound when they try to blow this street crime up into a *False Flag Event!!*. Sometimes niggers gonna be niggers and the irrationality of their Islamic-fueled pea-brain leads to the death of a White Man, again. I've yet to hear one good reason why this crime is a *False Flag Event!!*, just the blatherings of internet commandos who want to be thought of as being "special" in the eyes of us mere mortals.
Evidence, research, false flag issues and motivations, etc. Posts #: 23, 25, 27, 28, 31, 87, 104, 110
Posts #: 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 20, 21
Posts #: 57, 60, 78, 81, 99, 111, 125, 131, 132, 136, 137, 144, 177, 179, 180, 185, 216, 218, 219, 221, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 265, 273, 277
#23. To: Katniss, All (#22)
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Video 1 [at FWIW ...]: Full speech by the alleged Muslim attacker, Adebolajo (with the Christian name, Michael); Quotes the Bible (eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth), not the Koran. Partial transcript at Post #31 archived here.
|| Published Monday, June 3, 2013 at washingtontimes.com: Al Qaeda affiliate’s grave new warning: Inflicting mass casualties on U.S. a top priority by Shaun Waterman
The military commander of al Qaeda’s affiliate in Yemen is threatening new attacks against America, saying its people will never be safe until the U.S. government stops “attacking and oppressing” Muslim countries.
#24. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#23)
#25. To: titorite (#1)
Everyone here that is sane agrees.
#26. To: Lod, GreyLmist, Turtle, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#24)
1. Why did the 'killers' crash their car before attacking the guy? were they on drink or drugs? why not just run him over?
2. How did the 'killers' know the guy was a soldier? simply based on the tee shirt he was supposedly wearing?
3. How did they know where he would be walking at that very time? Surely they must have known his movements prior to that moment?
4. If the 'killers' had firearms as well as machetes and knives, why not just shoot him?
5. Since no picture or video shows a beheaded body, and the post mortem says he was basically 'incised to death', then how do we know he was beheaded?
6. Why werent the numerous passers by even remotely scared of these bloodied maniacs that just murdered someone, as they casually strolled by? How did they know they wouldn't be in any danger?
7. The so called 'good samaritans', the women who were said to have 'protected' the beheaded body to prevent it from further attack, including the woman who supposedly got off a bus, just to talk to the bloodied 'killer', telling him that terrorism would never prevail, etc, or another woman who lay down beside the headless bloodless 'corpse', are we supposed to actually believe that?
8. Why did it take the police almost 20 minutes to arrive on scene?
9. Why do some pics appear to show 'police' cutting the 'killers' clothing and adding blood?
10. Why does the forensics tent, supposedly covering the 'headless corpse', show up in 2 different locations, one near the junction of the 2 roads, the other, much further away?
11. If the incident happened around 2.30 pm, why did it only filter through to mainstream media several hours later? (And incessantly ever since)?
12. Why did the PM have to cut his trip to france short, for a murder?
13. Why was the scary sounding COBRA commitee formed? for one murder?
14. Since when is a stabbing, an 'act of terrorism'?
15. Why does one of the 'perps', the one ranting to the camera, have no blood on him whatsoever, except the very odd looking stuff on his hands (depending on which video version of the edited mainstream media you watch)?
16. Why does that very shot show the perp in slightly different positions, as if being filmed by two cameras?
17. Who is the very brave cameraman? why did he stand there a few feet from someone who had just 'cut the head off a passer by'? Why not run off? Or get a shot of the 'victim'?
18. Why is it these 2 'perps' were known to MI5, as always?? Were they trained by MI5? Are they agents, or actors?
19. Where is all the local CCTV? Why is there only the one video, of the very brave passer by, holding 2 cameras, filming the alledged perp, who doesn't even admit to the 'killing', merely hes sorry that 'women had to see this'?
20. Why are some aerial shots altered? Why are some parts, of passers by walking straight past the 'perp', 'cut out'?
21. If armed 'police' , who arrived almost 20 minutes later, shot the 'perps' 8 times, surely, they would have killed them?
22. Why did the 'perps' hang around, waiting for armed police, who would surely kill them? If they were heavily armed martyrs, why not kill themselves?
23. Why do the media bombard us with 'eyewitnesses saw this, unnamed sources saw that', yet all the raw footage is watermarked with a mainstream news outlets symbol? Who are these sources and eyewitnesses? Do they have a direct line to the news anchors?
24. Why is this incident still making headlines, when school bus crashes in pakistan, earthquakes, floods and other mass murders, barely get a few lines in the mainstream media?
25. If much larger PSy ops like 9/11, 7/7 and sandy hook can be staged, surely, this one should be a stroll? Only the newsreaders are telling us what happened, and they werent there! The 'victim' was a soldier, whats to say he hadn't died in combat, several months prior, and the 'powers that be' used this to their advantage? they wouldn't, would they?advantage? they wouldn't, would they?
~ Jeremy Haydon
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#27. To: Turtle (#25)
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Insanity is thinking everything is a false flag/conspiracy.
#28. To: Lod (#24)
(Edited)
I don't understand why the West fails to believe the words of muslims, from OBL to these whackers, when they say that they will continue to attack us as long as we're invading/occupying their countries.
#29. To: Turtle (#25)
Insanity is thinking everything is a false flag/conspiracy.
-Alex Kurtagic
#30. To: X-15 (#29)
The false flag advertisers in this British matter are risking the alienation of people who would otherwise be open to all forms of future government collusion.
#31. To: Jethro Tull, GreyLmist, titorite, christine, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#30)
That'd be true if it wasn't a false flag, but it was. Obviously. It's actually the common consensus amongst every aware individual or group I've come across online and off except for the few usual official story devotees that get their "facts" from the msm and public school system. Questions about the woolwich attack that need to be answered!
1. Why did the 'killers' crash their car before attacking the guy? were they on drink or drugs? why not just run him over?
2. How did the 'killers' know the guy was a soldier? simply based on the tee shirt he was supposedly wearing?
3. How did they know where he would be walking at that very time? Surely they must have known his movements prior to that moment?
4. If the 'killers' had firearms as well as machetes and knives, why not just shoot him?
5. Since no picture or video shows a beheaded body, and the post mortem says he was basically 'incised to death', then how do we know he was beheaded?
6. Why werent the numerous passers by even remotely scared of these bloodied maniacs that just murdered someone, as they casually strolled by? How did they know they wouldn't be in any danger?
7. The so called 'good samaritans', the women who were said to have 'protected' the beheaded body to prevent it from further attack, including the woman who supposedly got off a bus, just to talk to the bloodied 'killer', telling him that terrorism would never prevail, etc, or another woman who lay down beside the headless bloodless 'corpse', are we supposed to actually believe that?
8. Why did it take the police almost 20 minutes to arrive on scene?
9. Why do some pics appear to show 'police' cutting the 'killers' clothing and adding blood?
10. Why does the forensics tent, supposedly covering the 'headless corpse', show up in 2 different locations, one near the junction of the 2 roads, the other, much further away?
11. If the incident happened around 2.30 pm, why did it only filter through to mainstream media several hours later? (And incessantly ever since)?
12. Why did the PM have to cut his trip to france short, for a murder?
13. Why was the scary sounding COBRA commitee formed? for one murder?
14. Since when is a stabbing, an 'act of terrorism'?
15. Why does one of the 'perps', the one ranting to the camera, have no blood on him whatsoever, except the very odd looking stuff on his hands (depending on which video version of the edited mainstream media you watch)?
16. Why does that very shot show the perp in slightly different positions, as if being filmed by two cameras?
17. Who is the very brave cameraman? why did he stand there a few feet from someone who had just 'cut the head off a passer by'? Why not run off? Or get a shot of the 'victim'?
18. Why is it these 2 'perps' were known to MI5, as always?? Were they trained by MI5? Are they agents, or actors?
19. Where is all the local CCTV? Why is there only the one video, of the very brave passer by, holding 2 cameras, filming the alledged perp, who doesn't even admit to the 'killing', merely hes sorry that 'women had to see this'?
20. Why are some aerial shots altered? Why are some parts, of passers by walking straight past the 'perp', 'cut out'?
21. If armed 'police' , who arrived almost 20 minutes later, shot the 'perps' 8 times, surely, they would have killed them?
22. Why did the 'perps' hang around, waiting for armed police, who would surely kill them? If they were heavily armed martyrs, why not kill themselves?
23. Why do the media bombard us with 'eyewitnesses saw this, unnamed sources saw that', yet all the raw footage is watermarked with a mainstream news outlets symbol? Who are these sources and eyewitnesses? Do they have a direct line to the news anchors?
24. Why is this incident still making headlines, when school bus crashes in pakistan, earthquakes, floods and other mass murders, barely get a few lines in the mainstream media?
25. If much larger PSy ops like 9/11, 7/7 and sandy hook can be staged, surely, this one should be a stroll? Only the newsreaders are telling us what happened, and they werent there! The 'victim' was a soldier, whats to say he hadn't died in combat, several months prior, and the 'powers that be' used this to their advantage? they wouldn't, would they?advantage? they wouldn't, would they?
~ Jeremy Haydon
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#32. To: Turtle (#25)
Someday perhaps there will be a cure for this kind of dementia. There's no cure for your kind of stupid. Insanity is thinking everything is a false flag/conspiracy.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#33. To: Jethro Tull, X-15, PSUSA2 (#30)
I think that is the intended effect. It appears that these folks are deliberately ranting like loons for the purpose of steering the average person AWAY from any and ALL reports of false flag operations, or any and all discussion of government involvement. The false flag advertisers in this British matter are risking the alienation of people who would otherwise be open to all forms of future government collusion.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#34. To: wudidiz (#31)
They did run him over first.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#35. To: FormerLurker (#33)
We're just not "aware". We're just MSM zombies with public educations. Or private educations, it doesnt matter. Education is bad. Stupidity and willful ignorance is our lot in life; it is our destiny. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go shave by rubbing my face with gasoline and setting my stubble on fire. It leaves a nice pink glow to my face. Women love it. It's actually the common consensus amongst every aware individual or group I've come across online and off except for the few usual official story devotees that get their "facts" from the msm and public school system. -wud
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#36. To: Lod (#34)
They did run him over first. Correct. But they didn't "just run him over". They crashed their car before attacking the guy. They could have "just run him over". Instead of crashing their car. Questions about the woolwich attack that need to be answered!
1. Why did the 'killers' crash their car before attacking the guy? were they on drink or drugs? why not just run him over?
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#37. To: Esso (#3)
just re read that and i'm laughing. Also the behavior of the bystanders/pedestrians is quite curious. Supposedly a grizzly murder has just occured, yet there's no pandemonium. Personally, I wouldn't be hanging around talking to, filming and casually strolling by meat ax and chef's knife-weilding spooks on the street unless I knew there was no danger involved.
#38. To: X-15 (#29)
i have to say that i don't believe that anyone, who is questioning the anomalies they see in this incident, has that attitude. i don't think there's any conceit involved here. as i wrote before, i think there are good questions by both sides in this debate. just the blatherings of internet commandos who want to be thought of as being "special" in the eyes of us mere mortals.
#39. To: wudidiz (#31)
Just pulling this question out of your post; unarmed Bobbies did arrive prior to the armed unit(s), which indeed took 20-mins. 8. Why did it take the police almost 20 minutes to arrive on scene?
#40. To: Esso (#3)
There are more than a
few explanations here; you're a triple digit IQ'er, crime is unusual in your
surrounds, you possess an ability to sense danger, you aren't the type to walk
thru crime tape, and finally you're white. Again, I'd like a dollar for every
douche who waddled thru an active crime scene. Also the behavior of the bystanders/pedestrians is quite curious.
Supposedly a grizzly murder has just occured, yet there's no pandemonium.
Personally, I wouldn't be hanging around talking to, filming and casually
strolling by meat ax and chef's knife-weilding spooks on the street unless I
knew there was no danger involved.
#41. To: wudidiz, All (#36) (Edited)
They crashed their car before attacking the guy. They could have "just run him over". Instead of crashing their car. No alleged witness has claimed to have seen the car crash or even seeing how it got on the sidewalk or before then, afaik. This is not super double top-secret knowledge. It is a simple fact that is anomalous, yet ignored by belligerents who refuse to question the official version of this. Also anomalous is that the only film footage of the area at the time has been from alleged witnesses but this 5.5 minute video shows a swiveling street camera in that location at 4:58. Link is set to start at that timestamp: In Woolwich No One Is Saying Anything - Morris Edited for spelling. But they didn't "just run him over".
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#42. To: All (#41)
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#43. To: GreyLmist, X-15, Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, Lod, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#42)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#44. To: GreyLmist (#42)
"The American people have nothing but contempt for these amateur psyops that only dupe some. For all their confidence in their own "superior intellect," The Psychopaths That Be merit only ridicule and derision. They are nothing but bumbling fools." ~ Cherie Martin
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#45. To: wudidiz (#43)
more data to educate, the above link is from the same source you linked; John Rigby isn't Lee Rigby. Lee Rigby was in Cyprus from '06 to '08. John Rigby was killed in Iraq in '07. Lee Rigby
#46. To: All (#42)
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#47. To: GreyLmist (#46)
Good. Though I guess the PL internet is better than no internet...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#48. To: wudidiz (#43)
Did some research on the name Rigby. Interestingly, it's linked there through a John Rigby to the Royal Small Arms Factory and the Small Arms Committee of 19th century Britain. The alleged use of a gun in this alleged crime called terrorism is notable as sensationally concurrent with the UN Small Arms Treaty push internationally and with the Anti- 2A gun-hysteria push here in America.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#49. To: Lod (#47)
PL...Public Library? Was on vacation but not there. :) I guess the PL internet is better than no internet...
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#50. To: wudidiz, Cynicom, Lod, All (#48) (Edited)
Tried to do some research on the name of the street [Edit to add: junction] where this alleged crime called terrorism reportedly occured. Am not sure which John Wilson that John Wilson Street is named after but someone by that name, a famous TV fisherman there, suddenly decided to move to Thailand the month before the alleged attack: Although I think that is somewhat odd, I don't think the street is named for him. However, I did find some interesting similarity to the ongoing NSA dataminging controversy through the name of a British architect, Colin St John Wilson; as well as his nickname being "Sandy" (for whatever reason) being reminiscent of the Sandy Hook probable staging here in America. Noting too that the Snowden NSA-leak interview was routed through a British correspondent and news source. Wikipedia excerpt: [Colin St John Wilson] "was commissioned to design the proposed Liverpool Civic and Social Centre, but the building was never finished, being deemed 'fascist' by the council." Cross-referencing Cynicom's Post #1 here + Posts #78 and #83 here: Here is where it came from, and a reflection of his reading. "This phrase is part of the title of a book by Paul B. Jaskot; the full title is, "Architecture of Oppression: The SS, Forced Labor and the Monumental Building Economy." Post #83: Here is brief synopsis of the book " The Architecture of Oppression" This book re-evaluates the architectural history of Nazi Germany and looks at the development of the forced-labour concentration camp system. Through an analysis of such major Nazi building projects as the Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds and the rebuilding of Berlin, Jaskot ties together the development of the German building economy, state architectural goals and the rise of the SS as a political and economic force. As a result, The Architecture of Oppression contributes to our understanding of the conjunction of culture and politics in the Nazi period as well as the agency of architects and SS administrators in enabling this process". Snowden is a deep reader, far above the likes of those in Washington. NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden: 'I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things' - YouTube; Video link set to start at 6:21 for the "Architecture of Oppression" section Excerpt from policymic.com Transcript: Death of Lee Rigby - Wikipedia excerpt: Top TV angler John Wilson quits UK for Thailand - April 9, 2013
Post #1: Re Snowdens first statement..
"you realize that that's the world you helped create and it's gonna get worse with the next generation and the next generation who extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression"
the chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee, stated that the committee would use new powers to retrieve documents from intelligence agencies.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#51. To: All (#50)
Excerpts: In terms of architectural production, Wilson is best known for designing the current British Library building in London, began in 1962 and finally completed - after a 35-year history of political wrangles, budget overspending and design problems - in 1997. He described it as his "30-year war". The original scheme would have created a piazza to the south of the British Museum, but would have required the demolition of a large part of Bloomsbury. After a public protest, a new site was found further north, between Euston station and St Pancras station. A design was approved in 1978, but then delayed by the change of government after the 1979 UK general election, and ambitions were reduced amid rising costs. The architecture of the huge building is influenced by several sources: the surrounding Victorian architecture in the St Pancras area of London and the collegiate architecture of Cambridge University. Noting here that Kings Cross, St. Pancras and Euston were all areas involved in the 7 July 2005 London bombings. Because of the occultic angles noticed in that occurrence, am also noting here the library connection involved in the Boston Marathon catastrophe. Colin St John Wilson
Sir Colin Alexander St John ('Sandy') Wilson, FRIBA, RA, (14 March 1922 – 14 May 2007) was a British architect, lecturer and author. He spent over 30 years progressing the project to build a new British Library in London, originally planned to be built in Bloomsbury and now completed near Kings Cross.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#52. To: All (#50) (Edited)
Am posting this notation here with regard to a different John Wilson because of the cultural immigration issues that factor into this alleged UK crime, which are prevalent in other countries too -- illegal immigration especially here in America: John Wilson - Wikipedia excerpt: John H. Wilson (judge), American judge from New York; author of Hot House Flowers It is illustrated by Marina Tsesarkaya. More info at the Wikipedia page. Edited to add quoted section at the top. Bloomsbury
Hot House Flowers is an illustrated, allegorical children's book written and self-published by Brooklyn criminal court judge John H. Wilson, which compares illegal immigration to dandelions which overrun a greenhouse.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#53. To: Jethro Tull, GreyLmist (#45)
Not sure what I was thinking when I put that up.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#54. To: All (#22) (Edited)
2 YouTube videos below by Max Malone analyzing those scenes. Perps described as dead rather than wounded but the vids are otherwise helpful in addressing the discrepancies: London Soldier Super Hoax - Video approximately 8 minutes; Link set to start at 2:58. London Soldier Super Hoax Part 2 - Video 5.5 minutes; Link set to start at 2:00. Addresses distance issues. Edited 2nd video link to start at 2:00 + description line. Ref. Posts #: 13 and 236
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#55. To: wudidiz (#53)
Your post led to research on the Small Arms issues that I thought was useful.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#56. To: GreyLmist (#55)
"If the ladies don't find you handsome, at least they'll find you handy" ~ Red Green The elites would have us all as controlled slaves under the guise of communism. After they take everyone's guns.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#57. To: christine, titorite (#56)
everyones everyone's
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#58. To: wudidiz (#57)
everyone's
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#59. To: Lod (#58)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#60. To: wudidiz (#59)
possessive
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#61. To: Lod (#60)
Thank you. Obsessive/compulsive too, I'm told.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#62. To: All (#54)
1 minute video on Boston Marathon Bombing Advertising Coincidences - Adidas Description: "I know I said this in the video, but I might as well say it again here... I'm not saying that Adidas bombed the marathon! I'm not saying they were related at all. I'm just pointing out a coincidence I noticed while I was watching the news." Comments by the uploader: "Adidas filed a claim against this video. I guess they literally own the Boston Massacre if the shot had the logo in it. Thanks Adidas; I will be reaching out to them for a comment now." ... "Have you seen the Puma Shadow Society line? The title should tell you enough about it." Puma Unveils New Illuminati Themed Clothing Line Woolwich Islamist murder: man charged with killing British soldier Lee Rigby leaves court - 1 minute video. Link set to start at 0:46. This video does not show the accused, Michael Adebowale/Suspect #2. Am posting it as a FYI note on a possible 9/11 inference because of the shirts displayed at a tribute site for Lee Rigby [0:46-0:55]. One is a blue Help for Heroes Support For Our Wounded T-shirt. The other is a red AON jersey by Nike (Greek goddess of victory). A Nike ad is suspected to be linked to Norway's Breivik shooting but I wondered if the Nike AON logos seen in this video had something to do with the AON company that was a WTC Tower tenant on 9/11 and it is the same company. In 2011, Aon was ranked as the largest insurance broker in the world based on revenue.[3] Aon has been the principal partner and global shirt sponsor of the Premier League team Manchester United F.C. [Football Club] since 2010.[4][5] September 11 attack Aon's New York offices were on the 92nd and 98th–105th floors of the South Tower of the World Trade Center at the time of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack. When the North Tower was struck at 8:46 a.m., many executives began evacuating their employees from the upper floors of the South Tower. The evacuation of Aon's offices, ordered by Eric Eisenberg, was carried out quickly as 925 of the 1,100 Aon employees present at the time managed to evacuate the building before United Airlines Flight 175 struck it twenty stories below them at 9:03 a.m.[13] However, many were influenced to stay by security guards and security announcements, or did not exit the building in time. As a result, 176 employees of Aon were killed in the attacks, including Eisenberg and Kevin Cosgrove, a vice president of the company, who made a call to 911 when the tower collapsed. [14] Don't know if the prominence of the brand names in connection to such high crimes might be a marketing strategy by Op-staging production-moguls to drive down stock values by association for acquisition/takeover motives or to drive stocks up subliminally but those possibilities should be given some serious investigative consideration, imo. Adidas was founded in 1948 by Adolf Dassler ... his older brother Rudolf [sic] later established Puma, which was the early rival of Adidas. ... Both brothers joined the Nazi Party, but Rudolf was slightly closer to the party than Adolf. ... Although it is popularly claimed that the name is an acronym for All Day I Dream About Soccer, that phrase is a backronym; the name is actually a portmanteau formed from "Adi" (a nickname for Adolf) and "Das" (from "Dassler").
Global sports brand, Puma, recently announced via their website, the release of a new distinctive ‘limited-edition’ clothing line curiously named ‘Shadow Society’. ... likely just tongue and cheek banter playing on the ‘cool’ and current theme of secret societies. What this new clothing line does show however, is how illuminati symbolism is becoming increasingly popular and trendy amongst the mainstream, whether it be in fashion, film, music or design, regardless of whether people know what it actually represents or not.
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