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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 11233
Comments: 314

Published on May 23, 2013

BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street

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#110. To: titorite, Jethro Tull (#76)

Trail of blood at 01:10 OOPS!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
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X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: X-15, All (#108)

That video is from two days before the alleged attack, iirc.

Exclusive Lee Rigby two day before woolwich attack (itvnews) - YouTube

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   17:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#109)

What was that personal attack about?

Stop, please.

Shock...

Shock gets me incensed...

Besides I am not sure how much I should be nice to some people anymore....

LIke the boston cops...

Lurker has a point about them being in on it.

They are in on it... do Boston police deserve any respect? not in my book... And Jethro there.... Jethro has been going on and on about boston and has not even bothered to learn so little about it so as to learn that their were two explosions?

I am sorry but that is the kind of intellectual negligence that is mentally crippling.

I suppose I coulda said all I had to say with out getting so personal....

That said ,if anyone does not know that their were multiple explosions in Boson... then they have no business what so ever debating boston with anyone.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: X-15 (#110)

Yeah how come that blood was not present in other videos... and how come you over look the medias red tinting of the black mans hands?

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: GreyLmist (#108)

Proof that Lee Rigby was 'spirited out of the country'?? None, and NOBODY else even remotely thinks that this was some kind of *False Flag Event!!*. That's just wishful conjecture on you and some other deluded individuals part.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: X-15 (#110)

Red line oops.

I guess that we are terminally stupid.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   17:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: GreyLmist (#107)

The link is fixed

That may be, but there are no pics A B or C there.

"people like you if the story is real or not, just acceptance of whatever supports it and rejection/ridicule of whatever/whoever doesn't comport with it. "

"people like you". lol. There's that subtlety I was writing about.

Give me a reason to support it. I see no reason to accept what you're saying. Just because you're going against the MSM / .gov "official story" doesn't make you right in your allegations.

Believe me, I could ridicule you if I wanted to. But why get personal? I'll leave that to your compatriots.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   17:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: titorite, 4 (#113)

Good discussion should be about:

1. Ideas

2. Events

3. Personalities/people

Anyway, that's all I have on this one.

Peace.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   17:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: PSUSA2 (#116)

But why get personal? I'll leave that to your compatriots.

It is easy for a satanist to lie.

Your sig line clearly contradicts your words quoted above. You have been making it personal for awhile now.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: titorite (#118)

It is easy for a satanist to lie.

Disagreement does not equal personal.

Show me where I lied.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   17:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: PSUSA2 (#119)

click your sig then re-read your post I referenced.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: PSUSA2, X-15, Jethro Tull (#116) (Edited)

Me: The link is fixed

PSUSA2: That may be, but there are no pics A B or C there.

? Yes, there are 3 photos [A, B and C] listed towards the bottom of the linked post and separated by || spacing: #13 of 4um Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?

Me: "people like you if the story is real or not, just acceptance of whatever supports it and rejection/ridicule of whatever/whoever doesn't comport with it. "

PSUSA2: "people like you". lol. There's that subtlety I was writing about.

As compared to this from you at #87?: "That's the root of the problem for you and others of like mind."

I'm not sure what you're implying comparatively about my phrasing but I don't have time to play semantics games right now. Note, for starters, that there is no blood trail seen into the street in Photo A at #13 linked above.

Edited for spelling, punctuation and bracketed insert in line 1.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   17:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: GreyLmist, titorite, PSUSA2 (#107)

It's been established that Lee Rigby really was killed by two darkies who have been 'raptured' by Islam. You and titorite have nothing to offer but a second- rate fantasy to elevate yourselves to some imagined position of possessing 'inside knowledge' when none exists. I guess if the niggers were drenched in a bucket of blood a la "Carrie" and a high-definition slo-mo video camera captured the knives in action on Lee Rigby you'd be satisfied??? Pfffft!!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: GreyLmist (#121)

As compared to this from you at #87?: "That's the root of the problem for you and others of like mind."

Fair enough. Just to let it go because it's a distraction.

There is no common ground here.

""people like you if the story is real or not, just acceptance of whatever supports it and rejection/ridicule of whatever/whoever doesn't comport with it. "

That quote can be about you too.

You seem to believe that those that disagree with you do so because of our own preconceived ideas that official stories are true. That is not the case. I reject it all because none of this points to a false flap operation. So I reject it. It doesn't matter who says it.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   18:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: X-15 (#122)

bucket of blood a la "Carrie" and a high-definition slo-mo video camera captured the knives in action on Lee Rigby you'd be satisfied???

They'd say it was CGI from hollywood (or the UK equivalent wherever that is).

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   18:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: X-15 (#114) (Edited)

Proof that Lee Rigby was 'spirited out of the country'?? None, and NOBODY else even remotely thinks that this was some kind of *False Flag Event!!*. That's just wishful conjecture on you and some other deluded individuals part.

I didn't claim to have proof that he left the country. The evidence concerning his whereabouts indicates that as a possibility, even if it's only a slight possibility. It's not about wishful conjecture on my part or other questioners. It could be said that it's conjecture on your part that the possibility can't reasonably exist without the agreement of official storytellers and believers.

Edited line 3.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   18:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: PSUSA2 (#123)

You seem to believe that those that disagree with you do so because of our own preconceived ideas that official stories are true. That is not the case. I reject it all because none of this points to a false flap operation. So I reject it. It doesn't matter who says it.

He says, after steadfastly ignoring once again the photographic evidence that I've submitted for inspection numerous times in this thread, as well as in others. The difference is that conformers in-line with the official version are not being targeted as outcast pariahs for their conventional position -- just those who investigate further than the official press releases. It is your opinion that there is nothing that indicates a false flage Op. That is not an unquestionable fact.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   18:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: GreyLmist (#126)

It is your opinion that there is nothing that indicates a false flage Op. That is not an unquestionable fact.

No, it's not. It's an opinion.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   19:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: GreyLmist (#125)

It could be said that it's conjecture on your part that the possibility can't reasonably exist without the agreement of official storytellers and believers.

Well, that just leaves the door open on every event in human history: John Wilkes Booth didn't assassinate Abraham Lincoln: *False Flag Event!!*, the Wright Brothers didn't fly first: *False Flag Event!!", Al Capone was just a persecuted Italian-American who was set up by J. Edgar Hoover: "False Flag Event!!*, The Alamo never happened, the Masonic Texans made a secret treaty with Mexico that was brokered by jewy Rothschild emissaries: "False Flag Event!! *, blah blah blah.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   20:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: PSUSA2 (#127)

It's an opinion.

It's dumb.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-29   21:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: wudidiz (#129)

i'm sure it is

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   21:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: X-15 (#128) (Edited)

There are many things widely accepted as "official" history that I think should be reinvestigated as probable false flags/PsyOps/BlackOps or for deliberate falsification of the narratives. Many "official" renditions about the "Civil War" era here are especially a bunch of hokum, in my opinion. The frequency/infrequency of past false flags or the fact that there are immigration/racial/religious problems that abound in the UK and elsewhere is all beside the point that the video you posted yourself at #110 above conflicts with the official version of only 2 prone people at the perp scene. See at 0:55 of the repost below that (except for an odd, oval-shaped censoring of a third body on the ground there where the group of people are standing) shows one of the very same scenes (Photo C at #13 of another thread) that I have tried several times to get reviewed as an anomaly that indicates something deceptive about the official version.

Compare 0:55 there to:

Edited for grammar and timestamp addition below the video for photo comparison.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   22:26:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

I don't know for sure what is in the road at the alleged victim-scene (a body or something else) and I don't think that the general public can know for sure either that it's a body just because they've been told that it's Rigby's. At Post #78, there is linked info available that I think points to timing and motive for implementation of more invasive/suppressive police state measures regarding communications data and controversial speech. A street-theatre staging could have occurred in the area of London reported and GGI tinting added later to the hands and alleged weapons. It wouldn't be neccesary for surrounding onlookers to be involved other than to serve as witnesses to what they thought they'd seen, if called upon to do so as reinforcement of the shootout scenario, etc. I don't think many people had to be involved in such an acting effort, directly or indirectly -- about the size of a small production company I would guess, which would include the two identified suspects; probably the camera filmer(s) and whoever was very near the alleged body at the victim scene, as well. A strategically placed dispatch-insider or two would probably be neeeded to control who was sent to the alleged emergency/crime scene as responders and also for keeping the public there at a distance. Who would be on assigned duty or not at a hospital setting could be controlled too. If Rigby wasn't on duty at his base at the time, no one there would have had to be a participant or under the impression that it was an Op of some sort other than as it was presented by the media and officials.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   23:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#132)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   0:23:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: GreyLmist (#131)

You are a goddamned idiot and you're fucking nuts with your false fag bullshit. Bozo'd.......

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-30   0:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: X-15, GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#134)

Questions about the woolwich attack that need to be answered!
1. Why did the 'killers' crash their car before attacking the guy? were they on drink or drugs? why not just run him over?
2.
How did the 'killers' know the guy was a soldier? simply based on the tee shirt he was supposedly wearing?
3. How did they know where he would be walking at that very time? Surely they must have known his movements prior to that moment?
4.
If the 'killers' had firearms as well as machetes and knives, why not just shoot him?
5. Since no picture or video shows a beheaded body, and the post mortem says he was basically 'incised to death', then how do we know he was beheaded?
6. Why werent the numerous passers by even remotely scared of these bloodied maniacs that just murdered someone, as they casually strolled by? How did they know they wouldn't be in any danger?
7. The so called 'good samaritans', the women who were said to have 'protected' the beheaded body to prevent it from further attack, including the woman who supposedly got off a bus, just to talk to the bloodied 'killer', telling him that terrorism would never prevail, etc, or another woman who lay down beside the headless bloodless 'corpse', are we supposed to actually believe that?
8. Why did it take the police almost 20 minutes to arrive on scene?
9. Why do some pics appear to show 'police' cutting the 'killers' clothing and adding blood?
10. Why does the forensics tent, supposedly covering the 'headless corpse', show up in 2 different locations, one near the junction of the 2 roads, the other, much further away?
11. If the incident happened around 2.30 pm, why did it only filter through to mainstream media several hours later? (And incessantly ever since)?
12. Why did the PM have to cut his trip to france short, for a murder?
13. Why was the scary sounding COBRA commitee formed? for one murder?
14. Since when is a stabbing, an 'act of terrorism'?
15. Why does one of the 'perps', the one ranting to the camera, have no blood on him whatsoever, except the very odd looking stuff on his hands (depending on which video version of the edited mainstream media you watch)?
16. Why does that very shot show the perp in slightly different positions, as if being filmed by two cameras?
17. Who is the very brave cameraman? why did he stand there a few feet from someone who had just 'cut the head off a passer by'? Why not run off? Or get a shot of the 'victim'?
18. Why is it these 2 'perps' were known to MI5, as always?? Were they trained by MI5? Are they agents, or actors?
19. Where is all the local CCTV? Why is there only the one video, of the very brave passer by, holding 2 cameras, filming the alledged perp, who doesn't even admit to the 'killing', merely hes sorry that 'women had to see this'?
20. Why are some aerial shots altered? Why are some parts, of passers by walking straight past the 'perp', 'cut out'?
21. If armed 'police' , who arrived almost 20 minutes later, shot the 'perps' 8 times, surely, they would have killed them?
22. Why did the 'perps' hang around, waiting for armed police, who would surely kill them? If they were heavily armed martyrs, why not kill themselves?
23. Why do the media bombard us with 'eyewitnesses saw this, unnamed sources saw that', yet all the raw footage is watermarked with a mainstream news outlets symbol? Who are these sources and eyewitnesses? Do they have a direct line to the news anchors?
24. Why is this incident still making headlines, when school bus crashes in pakistan, earthquakes, floods and other mass murders, barely get a few lines in the mainstream media?
25. If much larger PSy ops like 9/11, 7/7 and sandy hook can be staged, surely, this one should be a stroll? Only the newsreaders are telling us what happened, and they werent there! The 'victim' was a soldier, whats to say he hadn't died in combat, several months prior, and the 'powers that be' used this to their advantage? they wouldn't, would they?
advantage? they wouldn't, would they?
~ Jeremy Haydon


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   1:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: wudidiz (#135) (Edited)

Good questions.

Re: Question #12 - "Why did the PM have to cut his trip to france short, for a murder?"

Maybe coordinations for the French phase were arranged to proceed after he left there to manage the British COBRA plannings on UK communications crackdowns + the possibly related Sweden issues [Ref. Post #78 above], etc.:

After soldier's slaying, Britain forms extremism task force

In other developing news:

English Defence League clashes with police after Woolwich Machete Attack - no comment - YouTube

Soldier stabbed with Stanley knife in Paris, French leader says 'no link to Woolwich killing'

4um - France Police Arrest A Recent Convert To Islam In Attack On Pvt. Cédric Cordiez

Man stabbed in Woolwich streets away from scene of Drummer Rigby’s death

Three arrested over Woolwich stabbing streets away from Drummer Lee Rigby tributes

Woolwich backlash: Ten attacks on mosques since murder of Drummer Lee Rigby

Some Americans here would seemingly rather just go along with the official story of the alleged London Attack, I'm guessing not only because it jives closely with their immigration/religious/racial strife perspectives but partly because the communications and extremism crackdown motivations for a staging, with ramifications impacting the EU as well as the UK, are far removed from us.

Edited for spacing and punctuation.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   2:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: All (#136)

Excerpt from: Soldier stabbed with Stanley knife in Paris, French leader says 'no link to Woolwich killing'

Mr Hollande earlier this month said France was taking seriously a call by Al-Qaida's north African wing for Muslims worldwide to launch attacks against the country's interests over its military operation in Mali, where French soldiers this year intervened to fight Islamist extremists.

Manufacturing Consent for France's continued Military Operations/War in Africa, perhaps.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   2:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: X-15 (#134)

Me at #131: "the video you posted yourself at #110 above conflicts with the official version of only 2 prone people at the perp scene. See at 0:55 [...] that (except for an odd, oval-shaped censoring of a third body on the ground there where the group of people are standing) [it] shows one of the very same scenes (Photo C at #13 of another thread) that I have tried several times to get reviewed as an anomaly that indicates something deceptive about the official version."

X-15: You are a goddamned idiot and you're fucking nuts with your false fag bullshit. Bozo'd.......

I have never seen so much wide ranging aversion and now this level of reactiveness over a simple evidence photo presentation in all of my time here. Just sayin'.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   3:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: GreyLmist (#136)

Some Americans here would seemingly rather just...

Who cares.

Half the population has a below average iq.

Fuck 'em.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   3:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: GreyLmist, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#136)

Re: Question #12 - "Why did the PM have to cut his trip to france short, for a murder?"

Maybe coordinations for the French phase were arranged to proceed after he left there to manage the British COBRA plannings on UK communications crackdowns + the possibly related Sweden issues [Ref. Post #78 above], etc.:

After soldier's slaying, Britain forms extremism task force

In other developing news:

English Defence League clashes with police after Woolwich Machete Attack - no comment - YouTube

Soldier stabbed with Stanley knife in Paris, French leader says 'no link to Woolwich killing'

4um - France Police Arrest A Recent Convert To Islam In Attack On Pvt. Cédric Cordiez

Man stabbed in Woolwich streets away from scene of Drummer Rigby’s death

Three arrested over Woolwich stabbing streets away from Drummer Lee Rigby tributes

Woolwich backlash: Ten attacks on mosques since murder of Drummer Lee Rigby

Coincidence?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   3:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: wudidiz (#140)

Coincidence?

I think not.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   3:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: GreyLmist (#141)

Me neither.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   3:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: GreyLmist (#132)

The degree of probable success in your convoluted theory is off the chart, in a negative direction.

It’s sad for you to think that something other than Rigby’s body was lying in the street. If it were anything else, your conspiracy net would have to widen to include the witnesses who checked for a pulse, the gathered crowd, all the emergency responders, and the ME who conducted the autopsy. How any rational person could believe that such a scenario could be successfully constructed, never mind held tightly among themselves for the rest of their lives, shows me a new level of naiveté.

You finish your conjecture by describing people who see this event as nothing more than a vicious street crime as folks who are steered by their personal religious, immigration related, or political biases. You completely dismiss life experience and common sense. I find your flawed insight outweighed only by a child-like imagination.

You still haven’t demonstrated how the government could have persuaded two individuals to stage the incident, wait around to be shot and arrested for murder, knowing full well they will never again be free men.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   5:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

I'm always astonished when people express so much disdain for any possibility that someone might not have suffered to death and could still be alive, for all we really know.

I tried to address your issues and think that it is you who have convoluted the level of conspiratorial involvement, not me. I stated that only a small production company would have had to be involved directly or indirectly. Since I'm not convinced at this point about a number of things in the official version that you and others presume on faith to be true and factual, I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body and an autopsy of it conducted, although I haven't ruled out those possiblities; nor that the alleged victim might have died but not been murdered or not killed there. I don't take for granted either that the two alleged suspects were actually shot, arrested and charged with murder to really face lengthy imprisonment for their parts in what I suspect could be a scripted staging.

To many it's been an unquestionably closed case almost immediately but it isn't so in my opinion. I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence posted repeatedly that something is deceptively being hidden about this case as to the perp scene. Instead, I'm assessed as dismissing life experience and common sense and so on in a negative direction. I think the reflexive acceptance of this British news story shows a surprising level of naiveté from those I expected were more aware of covert orchestrated Ops and foreign aligned agents of influence in high places who are essentially at war on the sly with the populace there and here and elsewhere, so are not likely to alert their target audiences much when they are being deceptive for legislative purposes or war agendas or whatever. I'm even taken aback a bit at my own naiveté for overestimation of the numbers on that wavelength and underestimation about the intensity of US opposition to further investigation of this overseas UK matter.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   8:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: GreyLmist (#144)

I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body

The potential upside of a cover-up, to the devastating downside of a cover-up being discovered is incalculable. With that said, may God bless and keep you, in nomine patri, et fili spiritu sancte, amen.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   9:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

how the government could have persuaded two individuals to stage the incident, wait around to be shot and arrested for murder, knowing full well they will never again be free men.

You can get that one, JT. They used fake bullets. The kind that don't really kill people. They were just pretending to be shot. They're actors. If they go to jail whoever hired them won't have to pay them. If they go to jail.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   11:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: wudidiz (#146)

They used fake bullets. The kind that don't really kill people. They were just pretending to be shot. They're actors. If they go to jail whoever hired them won't have to pay them. If they go to jail.

Fake bullets, store front mannequins, a sprinkling of paid onlookers who tweeted in live time, bogus cell phone interviews from the scene, vials of fake blood used by actors, all done amid a sea of government conspirators who have taken a vow of silence in order to conceal an as yet unidentified motive....

Not to unlikely for some, which is frankly scary.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   11:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: GreyLmist, Jethro Tull, Lod, christine, *Post Of The Day* (#144)

I'm always astonished when people express so much disdain for any possibility that someone might not have suffered to death and could still be alive, for all we really know.

I tried to address your issues and think that it is you who have convoluted the level of conspiratorial involvement, not me. I stated that only a small production company would have had to be involved directly or indirectly. Since I'm not convinced at this point about a number of things in the official version that you and others presume on faith to be true and factual, I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body and an autopsy of it conducted, although I haven't ruled out those possiblities; nor that the alleged victim might have died but not been murdered or not killed there. I don't take for granted either that the two alleged suspects were actually shot, arrested and charged with murder to really face lengthy imprisonment for their parts in what I suspect could be a scripted staging.

To many it's been an unquestionably closed case almost immediately but it isn't so in my opinion. I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence posted repeatedly that something is deceptively being hidden about this case as to the perp scene. Instead, I'm assessed as dismissing life experience and common sense and so on in a negative direction. I think the reflexive acceptance of this British news story shows a surprising level of naiveté from those I expected were more aware of covert orchestrated Ops and foreign aligned agents of influence in high places who are essentially at war on the sly with the populace there and here and elsewhere, so are not likely to alert their target audiences much when they are being deceptive for legislative purposes or war agendas or whatever. I'm even taken aback a bit at my own naiveté for overestimation of the numbers on that wavelength and underestimation about the intensity of US opposition to further investigation of this overseas UK matter.

The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no revolution.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   11:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: wudidiz, *Circlejerk Of The Day (#148)

There will be no revolution.

You say you want a revolution, well you know...

" I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence ..."

I find it equally astounding that some here consider this a false flag. And there is no "clear photographic evidence" to support this. THere are just some dodgy interpretations of what some pics show.

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Death to the Draconians!!!

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-30   11:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: PSUSA2 (#149)

Circlejerk Of The Day

Guess she's not in on it ;)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   11:58:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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