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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 11370
Comments: 314

Published on May 23, 2013

BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

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#3. To: FormerLurker (#0)

I watched 8 minutes of this. I predict that this will be ignored by certain people here.

You can also see, in the opening frame on the right side, the sign to the left of the nogs head has different coloration from the sign on the left section of the frame,

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-26   15:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#3)

It was amazing how fast certain people jumped on "it was all actors, fake blood, CGI, etc." bandwagon concerning this particular event.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   15:09:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA (#4)

As far as I'm concerned, the belief that "everything is a false flag, everything is a conspiracy, everything, everything, everything" is a mental illness, and should be listed as such.

Turtle  posted on  2013-05-26   15:47:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#11)

mental illness

Unfortunately for you, there's no cure for dumb.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   15:50:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#13)

Are you paid to be stupid or are you just normally mentally ill?

Turtle  posted on  2013-05-26   20:41:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Turtle, space-wasters, !graphic - gory - gross! (#44)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-27   12:13:52 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz, All (#47)

Click on top two pics to magnify

What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-28   0:02:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: GreyLmist (#65)

Click on top two pics to magnify

What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been.

It's a body and there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-28   0:30:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz (#67)

there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think

You're probably right about that.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-28   1:34:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GreyLmist, 4um stagers (#68)

No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-28   9:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

I don't know for sure what is in the road at the alleged victim-scene (a body or something else) and I don't think that the general public can know for sure either that it's a body just because they've been told that it's Rigby's. At Post #78, there is linked info available that I think points to timing and motive for implementation of more invasive/suppressive police state measures regarding communications data and controversial speech. A street-theatre staging could have occurred in the area of London reported and GGI tinting added later to the hands and alleged weapons. It wouldn't be neccesary for surrounding onlookers to be involved other than to serve as witnesses to what they thought they'd seen, if called upon to do so as reinforcement of the shootout scenario, etc. I don't think many people had to be involved in such an acting effort, directly or indirectly -- about the size of a small production company I would guess, which would include the two identified suspects; probably the camera filmer(s) and whoever was very near the alleged body at the victim scene, as well. A strategically placed dispatch-insider or two would probably be neeeded to control who was sent to the alleged emergency/crime scene as responders and also for keeping the public there at a distance. Who would be on assigned duty or not at a hospital setting could be controlled too. If Rigby wasn't on duty at his base at the time, no one there would have had to be a participant or under the impression that it was an Op of some sort other than as it was presented by the media and officials.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   23:31:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: GreyLmist (#132)

The degree of probable success in your convoluted theory is off the chart, in a negative direction.

It’s sad for you to think that something other than Rigby’s body was lying in the street. If it were anything else, your conspiracy net would have to widen to include the witnesses who checked for a pulse, the gathered crowd, all the emergency responders, and the ME who conducted the autopsy. How any rational person could believe that such a scenario could be successfully constructed, never mind held tightly among themselves for the rest of their lives, shows me a new level of naiveté.

You finish your conjecture by describing people who see this event as nothing more than a vicious street crime as folks who are steered by their personal religious, immigration related, or political biases. You completely dismiss life experience and common sense. I find your flawed insight outweighed only by a child-like imagination.

You still haven’t demonstrated how the government could have persuaded two individuals to stage the incident, wait around to be shot and arrested for murder, knowing full well they will never again be free men.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   5:17:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

I'm always astonished when people express so much disdain for any possibility that someone might not have suffered to death and could still be alive, for all we really know.

I tried to address your issues and think that it is you who have convoluted the level of conspiratorial involvement, not me. I stated that only a small production company would have had to be involved directly or indirectly. Since I'm not convinced at this point about a number of things in the official version that you and others presume on faith to be true and factual, I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body and an autopsy of it conducted, although I haven't ruled out those possiblities; nor that the alleged victim might have died but not been murdered or not killed there. I don't take for granted either that the two alleged suspects were actually shot, arrested and charged with murder to really face lengthy imprisonment for their parts in what I suspect could be a scripted staging.

To many it's been an unquestionably closed case almost immediately but it isn't so in my opinion. I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence posted repeatedly that something is deceptively being hidden about this case as to the perp scene. Instead, I'm assessed as dismissing life experience and common sense and so on in a negative direction. I think the reflexive acceptance of this British news story shows a surprising level of naiveté from those I expected were more aware of covert orchestrated Ops and foreign aligned agents of influence in high places who are essentially at war on the sly with the populace there and here and elsewhere, so are not likely to alert their target audiences much when they are being deceptive for legislative purposes or war agendas or whatever. I'm even taken aback a bit at my own naiveté for overestimation of the numbers on that wavelength and underestimation about the intensity of US opposition to further investigation of this overseas UK matter.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-30   8:36:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: GreyLmist, Jethro Tull, Lod, christine, *Post Of The Day* (#144)

I'm always astonished when people express so much disdain for any possibility that someone might not have suffered to death and could still be alive, for all we really know.

I tried to address your issues and think that it is you who have convoluted the level of conspiratorial involvement, not me. I stated that only a small production company would have had to be involved directly or indirectly. Since I'm not convinced at this point about a number of things in the official version that you and others presume on faith to be true and factual, I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body and an autopsy of it conducted, although I haven't ruled out those possiblities; nor that the alleged victim might have died but not been murdered or not killed there. I don't take for granted either that the two alleged suspects were actually shot, arrested and charged with murder to really face lengthy imprisonment for their parts in what I suspect could be a scripted staging.

To many it's been an unquestionably closed case almost immediately but it isn't so in my opinion. I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence posted repeatedly that something is deceptively being hidden about this case as to the perp scene. Instead, I'm assessed as dismissing life experience and common sense and so on in a negative direction. I think the reflexive acceptance of this British news story shows a surprising level of naiveté from those I expected were more aware of covert orchestrated Ops and foreign aligned agents of influence in high places who are essentially at war on the sly with the populace there and here and elsewhere, so are not likely to alert their target audiences much when they are being deceptive for legislative purposes or war agendas or whatever. I'm even taken aback a bit at my own naiveté for overestimation of the numbers on that wavelength and underestimation about the intensity of US opposition to further investigation of this overseas UK matter.

The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no revolution.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   11:32:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: wudidiz, *Circlejerk Of The Day (#148)

There will be no revolution.

You say you want a revolution, well you know...

" I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence ..."

I find it equally astounding that some here consider this a false flag. And there is no "clear photographic evidence" to support this. THere are just some dodgy interpretations of what some pics show.

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-30   11:47:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: PSUSA2 (#149)

Circlejerk Of The Day

Guess she's not in on it ;)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   11:58:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: wudidiz (#150)

Met many oblivious people at crime scenes lately?

You know what is in this woman's mind how?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   12:08:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Jethro Tull (#152)

Met many oblivious people at crime scenes lately?

You know what is in this woman's mind how?

I've never seen a woman walk nonchalantly past a man with bloodied hands and knives, no.

I know that there's no blood on his hands or knives.

I know that she knows that too.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   12:23:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: wudidiz (#155)

I know that she knows that too.

Sorry to burst your Karnak bubble, but you don't know what she knows. We can all agree on that.

OTOH, I'd like a $10 dollar bill for every time I've seen a person scoot under signs like the one pictured above.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   13:42:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Jethro Tull (#164)

but you don't know what she knows. We can all agree on that.

I know they used computer software to fake tint his hands and knives red. I know he didn't have blood on his hands or knives. I know that she would have known that too as he was in front of her field of vision. I know that. It's not a matter of opinion.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30   14:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: wudidiz (#166)

I know that she would have known that too as he was in front of her field of vision

So help me understand your comment; she's part of the acting troupe because you know she saw the perp apply tint to various body parts?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30   14:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#168. To: All (#167)

No Blood On Hands London Beheading Video Debunked! (Video)

Saturday, May 25, 2013 18:47

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A lot of you are going on about this video of the London beheading where it appears the man has no blood on his hands to prove that this event was a false flag.

 

This cropped zoomed and altered version of the video is nothing more than a slight adjustment in the hue and saturation to make it appear as if there is no blood on the mans hands.

You that have watched the video that I speak of will notice that the mans hands are unnaturally orange due to this and the red paint line on the street has also changed to a reddish – orange color.

I believe in false flags and I believe in conspiracy theories. But I also know Youtube channels will make up stuff and alter videos to create a conspiracy to make that almighty Youtube advertising dollar.

Here is a video I made using the original clip then altering it using the hue and saturation to make it appear as if there is no blood on the mans hands very similar to the video I am speaking of.

 

Here is a link to the original Youtube source video that was used in the “no blood on hands” video. As you can see it was zoomed and cropped and edited. But it was not edited for the “no blood on hands effect”, That was just an accidental by product of poor video editing.

HERE

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-30 14:18:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Jethro Tull (#167)

I know that she would have known that too as he was in front of her field of vision

So help me understand your comment; she's part of the acting troupe because you know she saw the perp apply tint to various body parts?

She's not an actor. She's just walking down the street with her cart.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-30 14:46:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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