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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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Views: 11549
Comments: 314
Published on May 23, 2013 BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event. The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene. Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete. He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!' In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.' It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing. Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'. The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'. Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. 'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.' He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'. 'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. 'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.' I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street Poster Comment: Food for thought
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#3. To: FormerLurker (#0)
I watched 8 minutes of this. I predict that this will be ignored by certain people here. You can also see, in the opening frame on the right side, the sign to the left of the nogs head has different coloration from the sign on the left section of the frame,
It was amazing how fast certain people jumped on "it was all actors, fake blood, CGI, etc." bandwagon concerning this particular event.
As far as I'm concerned, the belief that "everything is a false flag, everything is a conspiracy, everything, everything, everything" is a mental illness, and should be listed as such.
Unfortunately for you, there's no cure for dumb.
Are you paid to be stupid or are you just normally mentally ill?
Click on top two pics to magnify What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been.
What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been. It's a body and there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think.
You're probably right about that.
No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.
I don't know for sure what is in the road at the alleged victim-scene (a body or something else) and I don't think that the general public can know for sure either that it's a body just because they've been told that it's Rigby's. At Post #78, there is linked info available that I think points to timing and motive for implementation of more invasive/suppressive police state measures regarding communications data and controversial speech. A street-theatre staging could have occurred in the area of London reported and GGI tinting added later to the hands and alleged weapons. It wouldn't be neccesary for surrounding onlookers to be involved other than to serve as witnesses to what they thought they'd seen, if called upon to do so as reinforcement of the shootout scenario, etc. I don't think many people had to be involved in such an acting effort, directly or indirectly -- about the size of a small production company I would guess, which would include the two identified suspects; probably the camera filmer(s) and whoever was very near the alleged body at the victim scene, as well. A strategically placed dispatch-insider or two would probably be neeeded to control who was sent to the alleged emergency/crime scene as responders and also for keeping the public there at a distance. Who would be on assigned duty or not at a hospital setting could be controlled too. If Rigby wasn't on duty at his base at the time, no one there would have had to be a participant or under the impression that it was an Op of some sort other than as it was presented by the media and officials.
The degree of probable success in your convoluted theory is off the chart, in a negative direction. It’s sad for you to think that something other than Rigby’s body was lying in the street. If it were anything else, your conspiracy net would have to widen to include the witnesses who checked for a pulse, the gathered crowd, all the emergency responders, and the ME who conducted the autopsy. How any rational person could believe that such a scenario could be successfully constructed, never mind held tightly among themselves for the rest of their lives, shows me a new level of naiveté. You finish your conjecture by describing people who see this event as nothing more than a vicious street crime as folks who are steered by their personal religious, immigration related, or political biases. You completely dismiss life experience and common sense. I find your flawed insight outweighed only by a child-like imagination. You still haven’t demonstrated how the government could have persuaded two individuals to stage the incident, wait around to be shot and arrested for murder, knowing full well they will never again be free men.
I'm always astonished when people express so much disdain for any possibility that someone might not have suffered to death and could still be alive, for all we really know. I tried to address your issues and think that it is you who have convoluted the level of conspiratorial involvement, not me. I stated that only a small production company would have had to be involved directly or indirectly. Since I'm not convinced at this point about a number of things in the official version that you and others presume on faith to be true and factual, I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body and an autopsy of it conducted, although I haven't ruled out those possiblities; nor that the alleged victim might have died but not been murdered or not killed there. I don't take for granted either that the two alleged suspects were actually shot, arrested and charged with murder to really face lengthy imprisonment for their parts in what I suspect could be a scripted staging. To many it's been an unquestionably closed case almost immediately but it isn't so in my opinion. I find it astounding that so many here, including you, have ignored every appeal to assess the clear photographic evidence posted repeatedly that something is deceptively being hidden about this case as to the perp scene. Instead, I'm assessed as dismissing life experience and common sense and so on in a negative direction. I think the reflexive acceptance of this British news story shows a surprising level of naiveté from those I expected were more aware of covert orchestrated Ops and foreign aligned agents of influence in high places who are essentially at war on the sly with the populace there and here and elsewhere, so are not likely to alert their target audiences much when they are being deceptive for legislative purposes or war agendas or whatever. I'm even taken aback a bit at my own naiveté for overestimation of the numbers on that wavelength and underestimation about the intensity of US opposition to further investigation of this overseas UK matter.
The potential upside of a cover-up, to the devastating
downside of a cover-up being discovered is incalculable. With that said, may God
bless and keep you, in nomine patri, et fili spiritu sancte, amen.
There seems to be some measure of media-insurance involved, of a sort, that might be expected to minimize the risk of false flag/hoax discovery. Maybe the main objective in this case is to implement police state measures and legislation before the public questions much about it. An Extremism Task Force was already established there very quickly. That was nice, thanks. Same to you. If you could review the photographic evidence at Post #177 and give your experienced opinion, I'd appreciate your thoughts on that as to the additonal unidentified person on the ground at the perp scene being censored from the official story.
Post 177: the left hand photo shows the soldier down, looking @ him from a
Southerly direction. The right hand shot shows the soldier from a Northern
view and the two perps down in the background. If you would, look #168 and
give us your impression.
What about the total lack of blood in those pictures? did you miss that? or the exagereated red right hand of the alleged killer? it is almost redder than the red paint of the building in the backround. What of the fact that the "shot" killers arent bleeding? Did you not notice that the downed killers aren't bleeding? And why are all those people milling about a dead man and murderers... civilians normally flee this kind of thing, hell anyone flees gun shots and dead people lest they die of gunshots from being in that proximity...... But surely look at those photos again and tell greyL , me , god and the world all again about what you see in those photos jethro. What is in those photos?
See post #168 for an answer to your blood questions.
Why? does 168 talk to the photos in question or do you prefer this cat and mouse side step game? Tell god and the people what you see in those photos of post 177 freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...tNum=155260&Disp=177#C177 Stop side stepping and such please.
Why? To keep an open mind. #168 discusses the hoax regarding the missing blood. For you to accept some Internet accounts b/c they fit into your view, while dismissing a straightforward report that differs, shows me that you aren't open to material that doesn't support your version.
I don't see how you reach that conclusion when it is you who do not wish to examine the critical aspect of the photos in post 177. They come from MSM sources. They are legit. They are bloodless. And you wanna play cat and mouse games and say "look at this" (I did) and "you're ignoring that" (I assure you I ain't , I take in EVERYTHING) The very fact that conflicting photos have been put out both touted as honest and true should of been a big clue for you and I am sorry you missed it. But If it were strait forward and clear cut then this cat and mouse game of yours wouldn't even be able to be had,. just saying . ALSO I do not have a version. what the heck is up with that assumption... why do people push that on people? I am critically examining all the photo and video that has been presented. I don't have a version but I can look at the photos in post 177 and reference more facts about them than just the fact that they have the murderers and victim in the photo. I can observe more than that. How about you?
I discussed #177 in #186.
And your opinion of #168 is?
My opinion is that you like these cat and mouse games over direct answers. I don't have the time or attention to be bothered with that anymore. You wont identify anything in those pics past the fact that they contain the alleged murderers and alleged victim. Outside those terms you see nothing. Got it thanks. For the record I think that live leak video ignores the fact that the hands are already tinted. I even pointed it out in a video. You made fun of me about it. remember? I used the square edge of a pack of american spirit rolling papers to point out the tint on the CNN page. I doubt you remember. Thats proly for the best.
Your opinion is noted and filed under Area 51.
She stole my soul and thats what really hurts!
#214. To: Dakmar (#213)
But I feel I'm being used.
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#4. To: PSUSA2 (#3)
#11. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA (#4)
#13. To: Turtle (#11)
mental illness
#44. To: wudidiz (#13)
#47. To: Turtle, space-wasters, !graphic - gory - gross! (#44)
#65. To: wudidiz, All (#47)
#67. To: GreyLmist (#65)
Click on top two pics to magnify
#68. To: wudidiz (#67)
there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think
#69. To: GreyLmist, 4um stagers (#68)
#132. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.
#143. To: GreyLmist (#132)
#144. To: Jethro Tull (#143)
#145. To: GreyLmist (#144)
I do not take for granted that there actually was a victim body
#185. To: Jethro Tull (#145)
The potential upside of a cover-up, to the devastating downside of a cover-up being discovered is incalculable.
With that said, may God bless and keep you, in nomine patri, et fili spiritu sancte, amen.
#186. To: GreyLmist (#185)
#187. To: Jethro Tull (#186)
#188. To: titorite (#187)
#189. To: Jethro Tull (#188)
(Edited)
See post #168 for an answer to your blood questions.
#192. To: titorite (#189)
#194. To: Jethro Tull (#192)
Why? To keep an open mind. #168 discusses the hoax regarding the missing blood. For you to accept some Internet accounts b/c they fit into your view, while dismissing a straightforward report that differs, shows me that you aren't open to material that doesn't support your version.
#195. To: titorite (#194)
#207. To: Jethro Tull (#195)
I discussed #177 in #186. And your opinion of #168 is?
#212. To: titorite (#207)
My opinion is that you like these cat and mouse games over direct answers.
#213. To: Jethro Tull (#212)
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