4um: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street

(edit: he ran towards the car, dropped his knife(s) and ran past the car as he was supposedly shot, dove for the ground, faked twitching and had no blood on him until after the fluroescent "policemen" cut his shirt up...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

All of the following would have had to agree to enter into a criminal conspiracy, a felony, for the benefit of advancing a story which has largely fallen off the 24-hour news cycle:

1) The two perps
2) The person, or people who approached them with the details of the "crime"
3) The police officers
4) The responding EMTs
5) The video interviewer
6) Rigbyâ€™s family & friends
7) The hospital personnel
8) One or more witnesses

As I said, when they knock down towers in Lower Manhattan, I'm with you, but in this matter the degree of difficulty doesn't rate the risk.

This is to correct the link for the Comments section of Video 3 in the block of reference info above from Post #219 because the Edit option was unavailable.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

"I want to see the whole story from cctv footage. im sure they have it seeing as their is cctv on almost every corner. something just doesnt make sense especially with the crashed car in the background next to the body."

"...when he walks back over to his 'victim', AMAZINGLY I don't see the blood in front of the car. It's almost like it was placed there after the fact..."

"... no blood in front of the car ... Blood sure does behave strangely on the streets of London..."

"The damage to the car is far to exstensive to have been caused by hitting a person,,,the left rail and front bumper support are crushed in,,,,no way a persons legs could do that much damage"

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

"Why are there no bloody footprints of the 'killers' leading away from that 'blood-pool' on the sidewalk that is seen in the heli photo?"

"How did the alleged attacker manage not to walk through this 'bunch of blood' and not leave bloody footprints all over the street."

"...Two guys hacking off this guys head as he lays on the ground would have to have been standing very close to him. They would have blood all over their shoes and at the very least would be standing right in the blood pool smearing it around and they would have tracked it all around the immediate area that is seen in the heli photo and likely further."

"I think at this point it is obvious that the blood visible from the heli cam, was added much later. The leaking radiator fluid is visible from every known camera angle, but not the blood..."

"There were no bloody shoeprints at Boston bombing because it was a fake scene.
There were no bloody shoeprints at London beheading because it was a fake scene."

"did YOU know their is a police station 2 streets away? 30 mins was to give the guy time to make a PROPAGANDA VIDEO"

"He says, 'Tell them to bring OUR troops back'? Which group does he identify with?"

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

I still think that the female officer has a taser there and not a gun. I'm guessing that what she was doing at that point was maybe zapping the guy in the road because he moved his legs close to the time that it looked like she was aiming her hand. Then, it looks to me like she dropped the taser onto the sidewalk and that's when she might have started moving to get to her gun but both suspects were down by then.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

I don't think that means that they all shot him, though. Would there be a conduct or unit safety issue if the policewoman wasn't among those in the scenario who used their gun?

My best guess is that there were 4 LEOs in the vehicle, the female driver and two males in uniforms and one plainclothes officer in white shoes who got out on the back passenger side. Although there is some alleged witness testimony claiming that the suspect with a gun fired a shot, I think from viewing the videos that probably the first two shots fired took down Suspect #1 and that only the male LEOs were the shooters, other than the suspect with a gun who may have fired a shot early on. I could be wrong but think maybe that all 4 of those officers are shown in the bottom right photo at Post #236:

Was an nteresting article that you posted above. I suspect that the Khan character and company could have been one of those fake Al Qaeda productions to promote war and expansion of it.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

On scene media interviews are not investigations, which is what you’re trying to make of this. The reporter’s questions show an attempt to gather raw information, much of which will be refined during a later, formal investigation. There is no need for the media to develop a step wise timeline. Her only timeline is to rush to beat other reporters to their news deadlines. That her questions brings the witness back and forth thru different moments of the crime is par for the course.

If you, and others, can arrive at this conclusion, some 4,000 miles from the crime scene, aided only by Google, then I’m certain some bright minds in London, perhaps in the aggrieved Muslim community, will be able to blow this case sky high. Their lack of curiosity to what you see as the obvious must be troubling.

White Man being stabbed by two street-thugs doesn't rise to the level of a *False Flag Event!!*, there are no global outcomes, no greater purpose is served, nothing was changed except that the White Britons dim view of imported turd-world losers was confirmed. Not one person in their right mind believes that Lee Rigby was killed elsewhere (by who? when? why?) and dumped in the street in some elaborate Hollywood production.

To persist in the 'false flag' fantasy is no more than swinging after the bell. There's nothing more to be said about the matter. The false-flaggers need to move forward and keep up with the rest of humanity or be left behind in a choking and putrid cloud of bitterness and insanity......

Unless you ask the ptb. They'd tell you it's sensible. That's what they want. They want you to forget about it.

It appears that Britain's 2.5 million Muzzies are down with this crime being normal TNB.

How is it that they are both the victims and the deceived? Do they not see what you and some others find obvious?

“They have done a cowardly, barbaric act,” said Imam Ajmal Masroor of the Islamic Society of Britain. “They have insulted God and Islam. They are low vile scum. We, the British, will remain together resolute and strong.”

A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain condemned the slaughter of the soldier by two men – both believed to be Christian converts to Islam – as “a barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and which we condemn unreservedly.”

How (why) did western nations think it a swell idea to let muzzies into the country?

It's a few select appointed "leaders" that "reacted with horror and anger", not the 2.5 million muslims.

Yes, maybe, but none of that changes anything about the anomalies already presented.

Edit to add: the idea is not so difficult to envision if you see that some of those witnesses/conspirators are part of a production company and/or a conspiracy of silence.

Also, if anyone wants to challenge this as in fighting it in the courts, most if not all of the judges and magistrates in Britain are high ranking masons.

The answer to your question is the internationalist Jew. Professor MacDonald (the bottom 'tube) is someone I consider to be an expert on immigration. Both tubes are excellent.

Why not bundle your theory up and present it to the British Muzzies? They aren't buying it presently, and keeping your investigation to the few people on this board will do nothing to advance your cause. The dog ain't hunting.

Thanks! both were outstanding - the passion of the first was tremendous, and Dr. McDonald is so sharp on so many subjects.

The first dude is fantastic. That is a man, and his brand of nationalism is a tonic for all that ails US.

Why bother to use refined truth when we can use synthetic truth? isn't that a better blend for for the blase?

But no I feel you JT, Maybe you could tell us how the "truth in the raw"is "refined" since you know so much about it. IS it put into a cyclytron and spun and so many revolutions a minute? Is it put into a beaker and boiled into hot air?

And why do you think their is no need for the media to do it's job? OR even how? Do you know how to do a news reporters job from your one summer working at a TV News station? How do you have any idea what is par for the course?

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

Can we get more medical people up in this thread that can explain chest wounds and blood loss to the ignorant.

This isn't rocket science, it's basic biology. IF you know anything about medicine please speak to it. Have any degrees or certificates, now is the time to brag on it.

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The only mammals that I've ever taken out with a vehicle are rabbit and squirrel, but I will say that there was a noticeable amount of their blood left on the squish scenes.

The only mammals that I've ever beheaded are chicken, dove, and quail, and yes, there was noticeable blood flow in all those events; although there was much more with the fowl (chicken) that were alive when beheaded.

There's a real reason for the saying, 'running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.'

So to see this and be told anything to the alternate...I'd say " it is like living in bizzaro world" But bizzaro world has rules even if they are oppisite rules

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Simple answers to stupid questions: Why didnâ€™t Trayvon bleed on Zimmerman?

Iâ€™ve found myself repeatedly answering the same questions for dim Trayvon Martin apologists, and figured that as they come up, I can document them.

Todayâ€™s question is:

If Trayvon Martin was on top of George Zimmerman when he was shot in the heart, why wasnâ€™t TMâ€™s blood on GZ?

This is a simple question best answered in two parts.

Based upon the last known position of both Martin and Zimmerman as related by both Witness #6 and George Zimmerman, the two men were on the ground, with Zimmerman on his back and Martin on top ofÂ him in what sounds like a MMA top mount position, probably something similar to a full mount.

If you arenâ€™t familiar with fighting sports, let me break it down for you just a little. The man on top in the top mount position has the man on the bottom pinned using his body weight. He has the advantage of swinging at the head of a nearly immobile target,and can bring significant force to bear as he rains down blows (punches, forearms,and elbow strikes) on the man in the bottom position.

The natural inclination of the man on the bottom is to try to protect his head by extending his arms to block punches, or to block them by drawing them close to his face. He can not punch effectively from this position. In mixed martial arts fights,Â the person generally knocks out his opponent or is stopped by the reference within a minute of assuming a solid mount position. Itâ€™s obvious to see that if the fighter on top is punch downward, he would easily bounce the head of the man on the bottom off the ground underneath.It is my supposition that blows to Zimmermanâ€™s face that caused the black eyes may have been powerful enough to bounce his head off the concrete sidewalk, causing the wounds on the back of his head.

Considering all it takes is one solid punch to kill someone from this position, I think a judge or jury using the time honored â€œreasonable manâ€ directive would find George Zimmermanâ€™s shooting of Trayvon Martin in self defense as a justifiable use of force.

But why wasnâ€™t Martinâ€™s blood all over Zimmerman if he was shot while sitting on Zimmerman.

Two reasons.

The first is that gunshot wounds arenâ€™t the gory bloodfest we see in the movies. Bullet entrance wounds are small, and if there isnâ€™t an exit wound, the only hole on the body is going to be just a fraction of an inch across. If you donâ€™t believe me, ask the mortician who found a nearly identical bullet hole in a manâ€™s chest that EMTs had missed entirely.

The 9mm bullet in Zimmermanâ€™s Kel-Tec PF-9 is just .355" across, or barely more than a third of an inch.

Zimmermanâ€™s bullet bore through skin and bone and penetrated Trayvonâ€™s heart and both lungs, killing him quickly.

What does a heart do? It pumps blood. It was ripped apart, so there wasnâ€™t anything to pump the farcical geysers of blood we see in the movies, and there wasnâ€™t going to be much pumped anyway through one .355" gap in the skin.

Whatever minimal amount of blood that would have found itâ€™s way out of Trayvonâ€™s body would have then encountered not one, but two sweatshirts that Trayvon was wearing that night. Trayvon was wearing his oft- mentioned dark hoodie over a light gray Nike sweatshirt.

The odds of any blood seeping out of Trayvonâ€™s singular .355" wound, soaking through two sweatshirts and falling on Zimmerman is remote, even if we assume Trayvon didnâ€™t move or wasnâ€™t moved after the shot. Odds are, however, that he either got up or fell over after the shot. Trayvon could have gotten up and walked several steps before pitching over onto his face, or he could have merely pitched forward off of Zimmerman at an angle. We really donâ€™t know, and may never know that detail, but it is rather inconsequential.

Ultimately, the lack of blood is an inconsequential detail, brought up by those that â€œearnedâ€ their expertise watching laughably inaccurate crime dramas on the smallscreen.

The reported did her job, however the subject failed to deliver the material in a neat timeline, and rather followed the questions as asked. That, is par for the course. What isn't par for the course is a tale that has generated no interest beyond the half dozen or so adherents on 4um. When even one Muzzie from Great Britain buys your hallucinogenic yarn of red tint, out of work actors,scores of conspirators and store front mannequins, please give me a nudge.

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

Ever worked at a newspaper or Radio news station? Got any medical backround? Are you a member of law enforcement or have direct relatives that are?

If not then, thier really is no way you have any idea what you are talking about nor any way you know what is "par for the course" let alone what is not par for the course.

Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Concentrate on the underlined portions regarding the blood and crime scenes then extrapolate that to the yelping regarding the shooting victims in London.