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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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Published: May 23, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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Published on May 23, 2013 BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event. The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene. Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete. He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!' In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.' It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing. Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'. The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'. Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. 'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.' He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'. 'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. 'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.' I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street Poster Comment: Food for thought
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#247. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#246)
How (why) did western nations think it a swell idea to let muzzies into the country? And why don't we tell'em to go back home? “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
It appears that Britain's 2.5 million Muzzies are down with this crime being normal TNB. Misread. It's a few select appointed "leaders" that "reacted with horror and anger", not the 2.5 million muslims. There is no lack of curiousity. 1) The two perps 2) The person, or people who approached them with the details of the "crime" 3) The police officers 4) The responding EMTs 5) The video interviewer 6) Rigby’s family & friends 7) The hospital personnel 8) One or more witnesses As I said, when they knock down towers in Lower Manhattan, I'm with you, but in this matter the degree of difficulty doesn't rate the risk. Yes, maybe, but none of that changes anything about the anomalies already presented. It just simply doesn't. Edit to add: the idea is not so difficult to envision if you see that some of those witnesses/conspirators are part of a production company and/or a conspiracy of silence. Also, if anyone wants to challenge this as in fighting it in the courts, most if not all of the judges and magistrates in Britain are high ranking masons. It's a conspiracy. The answer to your question is the internationalist Jew. Professor MacDonald (the bottom 'tube) is someone I consider to be an expert on immigration. Both tubes are excellent.
Why not bundle your theory up and present it to the British Muzzies? They aren't buying it presently, and keeping your investigation to the few people on this board will do nothing to advance your cause. The dog ain't hunting.
Can you point to one British Muslim who ascribes to your theory?
Thanks! both were outstanding - the passion of the first was tremendous, and Dr. McDonald is so sharp on so many subjects.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The first dude is fantastic. That is a man, and his brand of nationalism is a tonic for all that ails US.
WTF? Why bother to use refined truth when we can use synthetic truth? isn't that a better blend for for the blase? But no I feel you JT, Maybe you could tell us how the "truth in the raw"is "refined" since you know so much about it. IS it put into a cyclytron and spun and so many revolutions a minute? Is it put into a beaker and boiled into hot air? How is the "refined" truth any superior to "synthetic" truth? And why do you think their is no need for the media to do it's job? OR even how? Do you know how to do a news reporters job from your one summer working at a TV News station? How do you have any idea what is par for the course? ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Then why elevate it to a state of national terrorism for the UK? And why the red tint on the hands? Or the no blood from the chest wounds? Can we get more medical people up in this thread that can explain chest wounds and blood loss to the ignorant. This isn't rocket science, it's basic biology. IF you know anything about medicine please speak to it. Have any degrees or certificates, now is the time to brag on it. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
The only mammals that I've ever taken out with a vehicle are rabbit and squirrel, but I will say that there was a noticeable amount of their blood left on the squish scenes. The only mammals that I've ever beheaded are chicken, dove, and quail, and yes, there was noticeable blood flow in all those events; although there was much more with the fowl (chicken) that were alive when beheaded. There's a real reason for the saying, 'running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.' “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Aye, So to see this and be told anything to the alternate...I'd say " it is like living in bizzaro world" But bizzaro world has rules even if they are oppisite rules ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
I’ve found myself repeatedly answering
the same questions for dim Trayvon Martin apologists, and figured that as they
come up, I can document them. Today’s question is: If Trayvon
Martin was on top of George Zimmerman when he was shot in the heart, why wasn’t
TM’s blood on GZ? This is a simple question best answered in two
parts. Based upon the last known position of both Martin and Zimmerman as
related by both Witness #6 and George Zimmerman, the two men were on the ground,
with Zimmerman on his back and Martin on top of him in what sounds like a MMA
top mount position, probably something similar to a full mount. If you aren’t familiar with fighting sports, let
me break it down for you just a little. The man on top in the top mount position
has the man on the bottom pinned using his body weight. He has the advantage of
swinging at the head of a nearly immobile target,and can bring significant force
to bear as he rains down blows (punches, forearms,and elbow strikes) on the man
in the bottom position. The natural inclination of the man on the bottom is
to try to protect his head by extending his arms to block punches, or to block
them by drawing them close to his face. He can not punch effectively from this
position. In mixed martial arts fights, the person generally knocks out his
opponent or is stopped by the reference within a minute of assuming a solid
mount position. It’s obvious to see that if the fighter on top is punch
downward, he would easily bounce the head of the man on the bottom off the
ground underneath.It is my supposition that blows to Zimmerman’s face that
caused the black eyes may have been powerful enough to bounce his head off the
concrete sidewalk, causing the wounds on the back of his head. Considering
all it takes is one solid punch to kill someone from this position, I think a
judge or jury using the time honored “reasonable man” directive would find
George Zimmerman’s shooting of Trayvon Martin in self defense as a justifiable
use of force. But why wasn’t Martin’s blood all over Zimmerman if he was shot
while sitting on Zimmerman. Two reasons.
The first is that gunshot wounds aren’t the gory bloodfest we see in the
movies. Bullet entrance wounds are small, and if there isn’t an exit wound, the
only hole on the body is going to be just a fraction of an inch across. If you
don’t believe me, ask the mortician who found a nearly identical bullet hole in
a man’s chest that EMTs had missed entirely. The 9mm bullet
in Zimmerman’s Kel-Tec PF-9 is just .355" across, or barely more than a third of
an inch. Zimmerman’s bullet bore through skin and bone and penetrated
Trayvon’s heart and both lungs, killing him quickly. What does a heart do?
It pumps blood. It was ripped apart, so there wasn’t anything to pump the
farcical geysers of blood we see in the movies, and there wasn’t going to be
much pumped anyway through one .355" gap in the skin. Whatever minimal amount
of blood that would have found it’s way out of Trayvon’s body would have then
encountered not one, but two sweatshirts that Trayvon was wearing that
night. Trayvon was wearing his oft- mentioned dark hoodie over a light gray Nike
sweatshirt. The odds of any blood seeping out of Trayvon’s singular .355"
wound, soaking through two sweatshirts and falling on Zimmerman is remote,
even if we assume Trayvon didn’t move or wasn’t moved after the shot. Odds are,
however, that he either got up or fell over after the shot. Trayvon could have
gotten up and walked several steps before pitching over onto his face, or he
could have merely pitched forward off of Zimmerman at an angle. We really don’t
know, and may never know that detail, but it is rather inconsequential.
Ultimately, the lack of blood is an inconsequential detail, brought up by
those that “earned” their expertise watching laughably inaccurate crime dramas
on the smallscreen.
The reported did her job, however the subject failed to deliver the material in a neat timeline, and rather followed the questions as asked. That, is par for the course. What isn't par for the course is a tale that has generated no interest beyond the half dozen or so adherents on 4um. When even one Muzzie from Great Britain buys your hallucinogenic yarn of red tint, out of work actors,scores of conspirators and store front mannequins, please give me a nudge.
Wait What does trayvon martin have to do with the British slayings? Nothing at all. Ok thank you. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
You contradict yourself sir. Did she do her job or did she fail to do her job? Make up your mind. Do you even understand how they do their job? Tell me Jethro What experience do you have in media? Any? Ever worked at a newspaper or Radio news station? Got any medical backround? Are you a member of law enforcement or have direct relatives that are? If not then, thier really is no way you have any idea what you are talking about nor any way you know what is "par for the course" let alone what is not par for the course. Edited to make it sound more polite. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
titorite: Then why elevate it to a state of national terrorism for the UK? Good question. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Timeline notation: 'Sickening, deluded and unforgivable': Horrific attack brings terror to London’s streets ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Yes, yes and yes.
Concentrate on the underlined portions regarding the blood and crime scenes then extrapolate that to the yelping regarding the shooting victims in London.
No, I wont because you are trying to change the subject to different racially charged event that has no correlation with the British event what so ever. So, I am not gonna change the topic at your request. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Yes, yes and yes. Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter. Come on now, That isn't the way you wanna play. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Suit yourself.
I shall, Raw truth is the best truth. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Sure you have buddy I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s. And your experince is?
JT: If you, and others, can arrive at this conclusion, some 4,000 miles from the crime scene, aided only by Google, then I’m certain some bright minds in London, perhaps in the aggrieved Muslim community, will be able to blow this case sky high. Their lack of curiosity to what you see as the obvious must be troubling. I wasn't talking about the London crime when I stated that about the Khan character and company. I was referring to something about them mentioned at the source you posted, which was from several years back: Khan admitted planning to lure a soldier off the streets then film the beheading. He was described in court as having the "most violent and extreme Islamist views" and his aim was to deter any Muslim from joining the British Army. How to expand Military actions from Afghanistan and Iraq into Pakistan, the port direction that the pipleline is planned to go? whatreallyhappened.com: Fake Al Qaeda ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
And your experince is? I have trouble believing any and all of that from the way you handle yourself here. And if you really did have an RN license then you would understand the fakes and flaws of both this event and boston alot more.....Blood loss is no joke and even RNs understand basic first aid. And why a wheel chair would never be used for transport ever. I have a degree in massage therapy. Two family members that are paramedics... another thats a doctor. Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
you know not of what you speak. Tom is retired NYPD. Is a registered nurse. Has two college degrees. Owned his own businesses and is a licensed private detective. you really need to stop with the ad hominems.
I've exaggerated my resume, eh? I also I hold two college degrees, an AAS in Applied Science (Nursing) and a BS in Business Administration. I also built, owned and sold a successful business and I'm currently a licensed private detective. Care to lay a bet on anything I've...eh...exaggerated?
There were no bloody shoeprints at London beheading because it was a fake scene. Pic of Suspect #2's clean-looking shoes at 4um Title: NODISINFO Fake Blood and Clothing Shears Confirmed in Woolwich Edited pic sizing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Friends, it is now time for me to ignore this thread. When we want to examine our CVs, instead of our thoughts, insights, and ideas; it's time for me to shut it down. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Forgive me for not buying it. It is not ad homenum. I am having trouble believing him. MInd blowing I do not believe it trouble. You can say believe it over and over but if those private investigative skills are real why are we arguing over a lack of blood? Why are some trying to confuse the subject with trayvon martin? This is not ad hominum. This is me having trouble believeing the words on my screen? If JT is the private eye How come all his eyes see is what the MSM says is there... and when the flaws of the story are pointed out they are dismissed with prejudice? Some private eye! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Sure you have buddy I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s. Ouch!!! That should leave a mark, but it won't. Sad ain't it? Back to Lee Ann Womack for me. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm? Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Bloody sad indeed.
yep. i agree. this is BS. the accusations of lies and character assassination isn't going to be tolerated.
Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger. Listen!! This is important for you to understand. We are a community of friends on this site that many of whom actually know and like each other. Some we tolerate, while some others tolerate us with respect. So when we build a site and nurture relationships for over a decade in a place we call home that cristine sooooo graciously hosts for us for discussion and truth, when someone goes around throwing shit on the walls and kicking the dogs it is not my job to ask them if they would like another beer. I am asking you to stop throwing shit on our walls (and kicking the dogs) if you aspire to be a valued member of our community, TIA To the proud the slightest repulse or disappointment is the last indignity. WILLIAM HAZLITT, Characteristics “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke? Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it. Hence the reference to pride, a very self defeating force. You yearn to swagger in public and suffer in private. Do you you not understand, try this one: There is a paradox in pride--it makes some men ridiculous, but prevents others from becoming so. CHARLES CALEB COLTON, Lacon Trust me, life is a chain of mistakes, you are defined by what you do about them. I am not angry with you, I don't wish you to be angry with me, I think your behavior on this forum demonstrates a high degree of narcissism and is not conducive to learning or open discussion. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
How noble of you to point out my short comings and failures. Thank you for capitolizing upon that at this time. Few could of done a better job. Sheesh. Wanna do us all a favor and stop acting like such a be drama queen about it... so I have problems with jethros career paths or his aptitude in those fields. SO what buttinski hmmmmmm You think I am narcissistic for disagreeing with jethro over this thing? For real? No way...I aint. but you know whatever. Or that Trayvon martin has relevance to this business of Britian? He doesn't but again whatever. You know what hmmmmm, Whatever. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
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#248. To: Jethro Tull (#246)
HERE
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#249. To: Jethro Tull (#242)
If you, and others, can arrive at this conclusion, some 4,000 miles from the crime scene, aided only by Google, then I’m certain some bright minds in London, perhaps in the aggrieved Muslim community, will be able to blow this case sky high. Their lack of curiosity to what you see as the obvious must be troubling.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#250. To: Jethro Tull (#232)
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All of the following would have had to agree to enter into a criminal conspiracy, a felony, for the benefit of advancing a story which has largely fallen off the 24-hour news cycle:
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#251. To: Lod (#247)
#252. To: wudidiz (#250)
#253. To: wudidiz (#248)
It's a few select appointed "leaders" that "reacted with horror and anger", not the 2.5 million muslims.
#254. To: Jethro Tull (#251)
#255. To: Lod (#254)
#256. To: Jethro Tull (#241)
n scene media interviews are not investigations, which is what you’re trying to make of this. The reporter’s questions show an attempt to gather raw information, much of which will be refined during a later, formal investigation. There is no need for the media to develop a step wise timeline. Her only timeline is to rush to beat other reporters to their news deadlines. That her questions brings the witness back and forth thru different moments of the crime is par for the course.
#257. To: X-15 (#243)
White Man being stabbed by two street-thugs doesn't rise to the level of a *False Flag Event!!*
#258. To: titorite (#257)
#259. To: Lod (#258)
#260. To: titorite (#257)
Or the no blood from the chest wounds?
Simple answers to stupid questions: Why didn’t Trayvon
bleed on Zimmerman?
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#261. To: titorite (#256)
And why do you think their is no need for the media to do it's job? OR even how? Do you know how to do a news reporters job from your one summer working at a TV News station? How do you have any idea what is par for the course?
#262. To: Jethro Tull, anyone with eyes can see through this bullshit (#260)
#263. To: Jethro Tull (#261)
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The reported did her job, however the subject failed
#264. To: titorite, X-15 (#257)
X-15: White Man being stabbed by two street-thugs doesn't rise to the level of a *False Flag Event!!*
#265. To: All (#237)
"The damage to the car is far to exstensive to have been caused by hitting a person,,,the left rail and front bumper support are crushed in,,,,no way a persons legs could do that much damage"
Military sources said the soldier had left the barracks by car, but witnesses indicated that he was rammed while walking along the road in an apparently pre-arranged ambush, before being attacked while he was propped up against a wall of a block of flats.
#266. To: titorite (#263)
Ever worked at a newspaper or Radio news station? Got any medical backround? Are you a member of law enforcement or have direct relatives that are?
#267. To: titorite (#262)
What does trayvon martin have to do with the British slayings?
#268. To: Jethro Tull (#267)
Concentrate on the underlined portions regarding the blood and crime scenes then extrapolate that to the yelping regarding the shooting victims in London.
#269. To: Jethro Tull (#266)
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#270. To: titorite (#268)
No, I wont because
#271. To: Jethro Tull (#270)
Suit yourself.
#272. To: titorite (#269)
Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.
#273. To: Jethro Tull (#242)
Me: I suspect that the Khan character and company could have been one of those fake Al Qaeda productions to promote war and expansion of it.
Islamists have threatened a number of times to behead a British soldier in retaliation for involvement in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Six years ago a group of British Pakistanis based in Birmingham were convicted of plotting such an attack and their leader, Parviz Khan, received a life sentence.
#274. To: Jethro Tull (#272)
I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.
#275. To: titorite (#274)
Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either.
#276. To: titorite (#274)
#277. To: wudidiz, All (#238)
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They would have blood all over their shoes and at the very least would be standing right in the blood pool smearing it around and they would have tracked it all around the immediate area
#278. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, 4 (#276)
#279. To: Jethro Tull, Christine (#276)
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#280. To: Jethro Tull (#272)
Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.
#281. To: Hmmmmm (#280)
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#282. To: Hmmmmm (#280)
#283. To: Lod, titorite (#278)
#284. To: titorite (#281)
Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm?
#285. To: Hmmmmm (#284)
#286. To: titorite (#285)
How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke?
#287. To: Hmmmmm (#286)
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