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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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Views: 11137
Comments: 314

Published on May 23, 2013

BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street

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#274. To: Jethro Tull (#272)

I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.

And your experince is?

I have trouble believing any and all of that from the way you handle yourself here.

And if you really did have an RN license then you would understand the fakes and flaws of both this event and boston alot more.....Blood loss is no joke and even RNs understand basic first aid. And why a wheel chair would never be used for transport ever.

I have a degree in massage therapy. Two family members that are paramedics... another thats a doctor.

Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   21:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: titorite (#274)

Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either.

you know not of what you speak. Tom is retired NYPD. Is a registered nurse. Has two college degrees. Owned his own businesses and is a licensed private detective.

you really need to stop with the ad hominems.

christine  posted on  2013-06-02   21:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: titorite (#274)

I've exaggerated my resume, eh?

I also I hold two college degrees, an AAS in Applied Science (Nursing) and a BS in Business Administration. I also built, owned and sold a successful business and I'm currently a licensed private detective.

Care to lay a bet on anything I've...eh...exaggerated?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   21:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: wudidiz, All (#238) (Edited)

They would have blood all over their shoes and at the very least would be standing right in the blood pool smearing it around and they would have tracked it all around the immediate area

There were no bloody shoeprints at London beheading because it was a fake scene.

Pic of Suspect #2's clean-looking shoes at 4um Title: NODISINFO Fake Blood and Clothing Shears Confirmed in Woolwich

Edited pic sizing.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-02   22:11:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, 4 (#276)

Friends, it is now time for me to ignore this thread.

When we want to examine our CVs, instead of our thoughts, insights, and ideas; it's time for me to shut it down.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-06-02   22:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Jethro Tull, Christine (#276) (Edited)

Forgive me for not buying it.

It is not ad homenum.

I am having trouble believing him.

MInd blowing I do not believe it trouble.

You can say believe it over and over but if those private investigative skills are real why are we arguing over a lack of blood?

Why are some trying to confuse the subject with trayvon martin?

This is not ad hominum.

This is me having trouble believeing the words on my screen?

If JT is the private eye How come all his eyes see is what the MSM says is there... and when the flaws of the story are pointed out they are dismissed with prejudice?

Some private eye!

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   22:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Jethro Tull (#272)

Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.

Sure you have buddy

I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.

Ouch!!! That should leave a mark, but it won't. Sad ain't it?

Back to Lee Ann Womack for me.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-06-02   22:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: Hmmmmm (#280) (Edited)

Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm?

Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   22:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Hmmmmm (#280)

Bloody sad indeed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   22:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Lod, titorite (#278)

yep. i agree. this is BS. the accusations of lies and character assassination isn't going to be tolerated.

christine  posted on  2013-06-02   22:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: titorite (#281)

Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm?

Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger.

Listen!! This is important for you to understand.

We are a community of friends on this site that many of whom actually know and like each other. Some we tolerate, while some others tolerate us with respect. So when we build a site and nurture relationships for over a decade in a place we call home that cristine sooooo graciously hosts for us for discussion and truth, when someone goes around throwing shit on the walls and kicking the dogs it is not my job to ask them if they would like another beer.

I am asking you to stop throwing shit on our walls (and kicking the dogs) if you aspire to be a valued member of our community, TIA

To the proud the slightest repulse or disappointment is the last indignity.

WILLIAM HAZLITT, Characteristics

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-06-03   2:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Hmmmmm (#284)

How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke?

Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   2:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: titorite (#285)

How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke?

Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it.

Hence the reference to pride, a very self defeating force. You yearn to swagger in public and suffer in private. Do you you not understand, try this one:

There is a paradox in pride--it makes some men ridiculous, but prevents others from becoming so.

CHARLES CALEB COLTON, Lacon

Trust me, life is a chain of mistakes, you are defined by what you do about them.

I am not angry with you, I don't wish you to be angry with me, I think your behavior on this forum demonstrates a high degree of narcissism and is not conducive to learning or open discussion.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-06-03   3:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Hmmmmm (#286) (Edited)

How noble of you to point out my short comings and failures. Thank you for capitolizing upon that at this time. Few could of done a better job. Sheesh.

Wanna do us all a favor and stop acting like such a be drama queen about it... so I have problems with jethros career paths or his aptitude in those fields.

SO what buttinski hmmmmmm

You think I am narcissistic for disagreeing with jethro over this thing? For real? No way...I aint. but you know whatever. Or that Trayvon martin has relevance to this business of Britian? He doesn't but again whatever.

You know what hmmmmm,

Whatever.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   3:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Jethro Tull (#282)

sad indeed.

Is it just me or does anybody else notice at least a wee bit more joviality and toleration around here when the slings and arrows are flying aplenty towards skeptics of the official version in this issue?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   4:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: titorite (#287)

I have no dog in whatever fight you are in. I haven't read this thread. My one comment to JT was on the irony of how wrong you were about his career path.

My comments to you have been exactly as stated to make you aware that you are a disruptive force in an open community of friends and ask that you graciously become one of us with an open heart and mind. There is only one top dog or king of the hill here and she don't say shit. That demonstrates benevolence and patience to a fault.

You are certainly free to ignore my observations and advice that you take as personal attacks and post as you please. Personally if a friend tells me I stink I'll say thanks and go take a bath.

Have a nice day!

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-06-03   5:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Hmmmmm (#289)

I have no dog in whatever fight you are in.I haven't read this thread.

Then why are you making anything of it at all in the first place?!

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   7:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, GreyLmist, Lod, all (#276)

currently a licensed private detective


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   8:56:05 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: wudidiz (#291)

Are these pics simply meant to ridicule?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: Jethro Tull (#292)

Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   9:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: wudidiz (#293)

Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)

So your answer is yes to the ridicule with the added component of levity. Gotcha.

Let me in on your levity please.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Jethro Tull (#294)

You know I'm just kiddin around. Lighten up, JT, it's just another thread. I love you, have a good day, Sir :)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   9:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: wudidiz (#295)

It wasn't that long ago that your wife? grabbed your PW and posted your life history here on 4um. It was embarrassing to you and you asked for her comment to be taken down. It was immediately. I recall enough about your background to post a similar string of pics about you, and like you, it would be done simply for the purposes of levity. I'll hold my fire and yeah, have a great day.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: Jethro Tull (#296)

I apologize to Jethro Tull for implying that he may of exaggerated about his credentials.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   11:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: titorite (#297)

No problem.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   12:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: All (#297)

I think the question was GreyLmists, to wudididz.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...tNum=155260&Disp=277#C277

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   12:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: GreyLmist, wududiz (#299)

Ping to yall,.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-03   12:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: titorite, wudidiz, All (#299)

titorite: I think the question was GreyLmists, to wudididz.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...tNum=155260&Disp=277#C277

Corrected the above referenced link to my post at #277. There isn't a question from me to wudidiz there. I courtesy-pinged him to that post because the pic I used to show the clean condition of Suspect #2's shoes was from one of his threads on this topic. Did you mean to link to a different post?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   13:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: Jethro Tull (#296)

It wasn't that long ago that your wife? grabbed your PW and posted your life history here on 4um. It was embarrassing to you and you asked for her comment to be taken down. It was immediately. I recall enough about your background to post a similar string of pics about you, and like you, it would be done simply for the purposes of levity. I'll hold my fire and yeah, have a great day.

I remember that. She was lying fwiw. Thanks for not firing back though. You're one of the good guys, JT. Peace.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   14:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Jethro Tull, wudidiz, titorite (#296)

Interviewer: Did you witness some discourteous razzing by the accused of a Private Eye's credentials that had been posted of their own volition at this location?

Witness: Sadly, yes I did and from another so accused as well.

Interviewer: In comparison, what was your impression about the Private Eye's writ of ordinance as to one of the accused's personal info that had not been put in the public domain of their own volition?

Witness: It definitely had a higher scale of resounding impact...like hollow points. :(

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   14:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: wudidiz (#302)

Peace wud.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   15:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: GreyLmist (#303)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   15:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: All (#303) (Edited)

Witness: It definitely had a higher scale of resounding impact...like hollow points. :(

Interviewer: One more question, if you don't mind answering.

Witness: Ask and I'll let you know if I'd rather not answer about it.

Interviewer: Has anyone other than you frowned in the direction of the PI for that level of escalation?

Witness: Not that I know of and don't expect to see any other such expressions of dismay.

Interviewer: Why not?

Witness: No further comment regarding the issues of condonance and bias at this time. That was more than one other question.

Edited to expand the last line.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   15:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Jethro Tull, All (#305)

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-06-03   15:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Jethro Tull (#305)

I didn't like the burlesque aspects and such in the video but I can say that the song was sort of snappy.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   15:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: GreyLmist (#308)

Stay with this one, they did it @ Woodstock.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   17:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: X-15 (#307)

Thanks for this vid. Weston is a proud White Brit, standing tall in defense of his nation. The flood of human debris flooding across theirs and our border invite invading butchers to apply their trade. May his numbers multiply ten fold with each brutal attack.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   17:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Jethro Tull (#309) (Edited)

Had to look up the words but liked the tune's music right away. You might like this one. Am posting some of the lyrics here so you won't have to go surfing for them.

You say the hill's too steep to climb. (Climbing)
You say you'd like to see me try. (Climbing)
You pick the place and I'll choose the time
and I'll climb that hill in my own way.
Just wait a while for the right day.
And as I rise above the tree-line in the clouds,
I look down hearing the sound of the things you said today.

Pink Floyd - Fearless

Edited for formatting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   18:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: GreyLmist (#311)

Now you're talking GL :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   20:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: Jethro Tull (#312) (Edited)

Freaky.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   22:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Jethro Tull, All (#235) (Edited)

Cross-referencing Jethro Tull's post at #223 that contains a statement by alleged witness, Julia Wilders, about the shootout with police as reported at independent.co.uk.

Two YouTube examples of a BBC News interview with alleged witnesses, Julia Wilders and Olusola Peluola:

1. Woolwich Witnesses Tell Why They Had To Help Victim Since Bobbies Wouldn't
2. Woolwich Witnesses Tell All They Helped Victim Since Bobbies Were Waiting For Gun Power

Both alleged witnesses state they saw a car that was crashed but not that they saw it crash. Peluola claims that he "heard like 4 gunshots" after the police arrived and drove/moved people back from the area. During his statements about the police, music starts playing like it might be from a cell phone ringtone. Thought it might be something that got inserted somehow by the video uploader but it is heard at the same time-marker (3:34) of both videos listed above, so seems to have occured during the BBC interview. Looked it up and it is a 2008 song called Voices by Rev Theory, an American band. Freaky lyrics. Noting that as a side-detail along with the interviews for the record.

Edited to include lyrics site.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-06   14:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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