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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 11216
Comments: 314

Published on May 23, 2013

BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

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#3. To: FormerLurker (#0)

I watched 8 minutes of this. I predict that this will be ignored by certain people here.

You can also see, in the opening frame on the right side, the sign to the left of the nogs head has different coloration from the sign on the left section of the frame,

PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-26   15:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#3)

It was amazing how fast certain people jumped on "it was all actors, fake blood, CGI, etc." bandwagon concerning this particular event.

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-26   15:09:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA (#4)

As far as I'm concerned, the belief that "everything is a false flag, everything is a conspiracy, everything, everything, everything" is a mental illness, and should be listed as such.

Turtle  posted on  2013-05-26   15:47:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#11)

mental illness

Unfortunately for you, there's no cure for dumb.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-26   15:50:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#13)

Are you paid to be stupid or are you just normally mentally ill?

Turtle  posted on  2013-05-26   20:41:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Turtle, space-wasters, !graphic - gory - gross! (#44)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-27   12:13:52 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz, All (#47)

Click on top two pics to magnify

What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-28   0:02:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: GreyLmist (#65)

Click on top two pics to magnify

What happened to the body/object in the road and in front of the truck in the first pic? -- not seen in the 2nd pic but the truck is shown in that one where the body/object had been.

It's a body and there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think.

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-28   0:30:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz (#67)

there's a lady in front of it in the second picture I think

You're probably right about that.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-28   1:34:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GreyLmist, 4um stagers (#68)

No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-28   9:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

Irrelevant!!! The dead soldier, Lee Rigby, is on a deserted island along with the Flight 93 passengers and Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, et al. Or something like that..... You're just a mean sceptic of the *False Flag Event!* :)

X-15  posted on  2013-05-28   12:12:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: X-15, Jethro Tull (#70)

Jethro Tull: No flame intended here GL, but can you help me with the logistics of this crime. Since you, and others, have put forward the proposition that this incident was staged, can you help me with the basic questions one would ask during an investigation; who was involved, what is in the road (a body or something else), where and how did the staging occur, when was the red tint applied, what is the motive and lastly, IYO, app. how many people were involved in this acting effort, both directly, and indirectly, as in the interviewer w/camera & surrounding onlookers.

X-15: Irrelevant!!!

After so many years of searching for the Truth about what has been destroying our nation and government, others and most of our world too; after watching false flag agendas of ruination continue time after time on that destructive course undeterred as if they are the Truth, despite all evidence demonstrating that they are deceptions, and people more concerned with demeaning investigators; after so long of about nothing changing for the better in the hopes that it will if people just realize that what they've been told from the media and other such controllers in the upper echelons is nightmarish lies; perhaps we have reached the point where the bigger question is not what's happened but how much does it matter if it's real or not to those who want to believe the official versions.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-28   15:07:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: GreyLmist (#72)

Lee Rigby. The whole *False Flag Event!* hinges around him. You can't continue with your fantasy merely by dismissing Lee Rigby. Don't give me your "bigger picture" rhetoric. Account for Lee Rigby. You can't, and that knocks down the whole fairy tale.
It just kills some of you to think that islamo-apes chimped-out on their own. The killer in Woolwich who made his statement on the spot was very clearly acting as a Muslim for the cause of Islam. No matter how many times London imams and British ZOG proclaim that the killers "don't represent Islam", they will only be able to say they're Muslims who misunderstand Islam, they won't be able to deny they were motivated by Islam and acting on behalf of Islamic solidarity.

X-15  posted on  2013-05-28   15:34:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: X-15 (#73)

Lee Rigby. The whole *False Flag Event!*

For all you know he was killed hours prior and dumped there

You don't know that x-15.

Instead your acting childish in your alice in wonderland logic parroting over and over about lee rigby lee rigby.

A host of other problems exist at the crime scene but like some adolescent being introduced to the net for the first time , your droning inconsequentially, not giving thought or consideration to the inconsistencies pointed out or at least the common decency of politeness for your fellow members .

I think everyone throughly understands that you will not look past lee rigby. Just as I will not look past the red tint , just as others will not overlook anything.

If it is a staged orchestrated event... it means the believers played into their hands like a fiddle.

But that is not the worst thing in the world. The worst thing is to continue alone getting played.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-28   16:05:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: titorite (#74)

Lee Rigby. The whole *False Flag Event!*

For all you know he was killed hours prior and dumped there

Not ONE PERSON on the whole planet has suggested that or gave proof that Lee Rigby was killed anywhere but on the streets of London by islamo-apes. Period. You're buying into a fantasy to suggest otherwise.

X-15  posted on  2013-05-28   16:54:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: X-15 (#75)

Not ONE PERSON on the whole planet has suggested that or gave proof that Lee Rigby was killed anywhere but on the streets of London by islamo-apes. Period. You're buying into a fantasy to suggest otherwise.

You know it does not matter. Because in your adolescent behaviors nothing can be discussed with you unless it is on your terms and those terms have been set by what story the MSM have projected.

That I or others find flaw in their stories is a concept outside the terms you wish to discuss X-15.

Do you understand?

The Bimbos that walked by with out fear of this murderer that just commited this crime in front of them not five minutes beforehand.

But no. they walk right by like he's nothing.

The red tint is obvious too all but you choose to overlook that.... It may be pertaintent evidence but you're willing to overlook it for the sake of rigby rigby rigby rigby Someone needs to oil that broken joint. The the police come for the killers and their lack of blood despite the MULTIPLE GUN SHOT WOUNDS is another issue... and another issue was their django style death scene..... like a .38 from over 12 yards is gonna blow a man off his feet...... suuuuuurrrreeee.

I and others will be able to discuss this amongst ourselves.

You X-15 will not be able to participate in that conversation until you take off your blinders.

titorite  posted on  2013-05-28   17:02:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: titorite, Jethro Tull (#76)

Trail of blood at 01:10 OOPS!!

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:15:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: X-15 (#110)

[Video link 1 - further eye witness accounts of beheading of soldier By terrorists london: Black male witness at 0:46-0:54.]

Video link 2 - Witness Describes Woolwich Shooting - Attackers 'Filmed' Each Other: Compare the Black male witness at 0:46-0:54 of Video 1 above with the Black male holding a probable phone camera who appears by two alleged White male witnesses in this video at 1:17-1:38.

Video 3 - British soldier hacked to death in London, witness who filmed attackers speaks out May 22, 2013) - YouTube: Compare the voice/accent of the Black amateur cameraman/witness interviewed in this video to the Black male witness above at 0:46-0:54 of Video 1 and the Black male with a probable hand-held camera at 1:17-1:38 of Video 2

Alternate YouTube link and videolin.com link for Video 3.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-31   13:43:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: wudidiz, All (#179) (Edited)

Video series at Post #179. [Edited to correct link] Meant to ping that post to All. Continuing with the numbering sequence there. Reposting Video 2:

Both White males in that video interview (alleged local residents) claim (like the alleged rapper/tweeter in the opening post of this thread) that the policewoman shot one of the suspects. Those 3 alleged witness statements conflict with this mirror.co.uk news report, which says a male colleague shot the suspect because she was unable to draw her firearm and that she was carrying a bright yellow taser. Note that both of the males interviewed in this video mention seeing weapons in the hands of a suspect but mention no concern for the safety of the women at the scene or any thought to protect them even by calling out to move away from the vicinity of the armed suspects.

Video 4 - Witness Describes Woolwich Shooting: White male witness/local resident Joe in white hooded jacket as seen in Video 2 above. Says there that his friend's mother went to stand next to the victim but states in this video of another interview with him that she sat next to the body. Moreover, he again expresses no concern for the safety of the women at the scene near the armed suspects -- perhaps because he knew it was a staged show.

Video 5 - WOOLWICH MASSACRE DECEPTION EXPOSED part 2 special edition 22 May 2013 - YouTube: Link set to start at 4:45 for a comparative photo analysis of the witness Joe as a suspected EDL/English Defense League agent provocateur. Video 5 reference: www.gasskammer.blogspot.com website at Post #159 by wudidiz.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-31   14:59:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: All (#180) (Edited)

Woolwich killing eyewitness Ike Onwukah describes attackers charging at police

Eyewitness Ike Onwukah describes the dramatic scenes in Woolwich following a murder in the street, as the two attackers waited at the scene and then charged the police car as it arrived.

Read more on this story here:
http://www.channel4.com/news/bravery-...

Says at 0:55 that Suspect #1 seemed like someone who had really lost it, then at 1:27 says both suspects were very calm.

Says at 2:07 that when they charged towards the police, he had to lay low; didn't see a killing or how the car got to the spot where it was but saw the alleged body; saw two women - one sitting by the body and one standing talking to the suspect(s).

Soldier Killed in London : Eyewitness tells machete attack 'They were chopping & cutting him'

An eyewitness [sic] known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T- shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, [sic]

'When the armed police came flying around the corner, the man with the beanie hat, the tall guy, he charged at the police vehicle,' he said. 'A shot was fired by the other guy with the gun.' [sic]

'There were police everywhere. There were 30 to 40 police officers. Police officers in each road were stopping people from walking anywhere. [sic]

The incident occurred some 200 yards from the Royal Artillery Barracks.

The barracks, also known as the Woolwich station, now houses a number of the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and independent companies of the Grenadier and Coldstream Guards.

Woolwich Common remains a designated military training area. The shooting events at the 2012 Summer Olympics and Paralympics were held at a temporary venue at the Barracks.

[More details in the Description section.]

At 1:34, he says something about the car he got out of. Says that the suspect who went to the crashed car then pointed a gun at him and whoever he was with. Suspect with the gun shouted to get back in the car while waving his gun around. He then says something about a car [his own?] being moved up the road and that he called the police. Says at 2:44 that the armed police took 20 minutes to get there. He saw police in the road and in the vicinity before that but they weren't coming to the area.

At 3:04, the interviewer asks him about other members of the public there. He says that there were only a few at first, not many, then traffic started to build up and people were getting out of their cars to shout at the suspects. Says attackers had the opportunity to hurt other people if they wanted to; that they were standing over the women and would have attacked someone else as well if they had the opportunity. People were filming with their phones. Says that the suspect wearing a hat went to a bus and asked people to take photos of him. Says the victim looked young, had a Help for Heroes T-shirt on - rumours he was a soldier. Suspects charged at the police that had arrived; 6 shots fired - a shot was fired by the other guy/suspect with a gun. Says he thinks that they were waiting for the police to be shot by them.

Says he didn't see the car crash but saw the badly damaged car at the signpost. Describes a pool of blood going into the road and down the pavement. An air ambulance landed at/near the primary school and they tried to save the victim. He claimed that Woolwich has shootings and stabbings there all the time - people attacked for no reason. He can't believe that it took 20 minutes for the police to arrive to take these guys down

Edited typos.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-02   1:22:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: GreyLmist (#235)

On scene media interviews are not investigations, which is what you’re trying to make of this. The reporter’s questions show an attempt to gather raw information, much of which will be refined during a later, formal investigation. There is no need for the media to develop a step wise timeline. Her only timeline is to rush to beat other reporters to their news deadlines. That her questions brings the witness back and forth thru different moments of the crime is par for the course.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   9:25:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Jethro Tull (#241)

n scene media interviews are not investigations, which is what you’re trying to make of this. The reporter’s questions show an attempt to gather raw information, much of which will be refined during a later, formal investigation. There is no need for the media to develop a step wise timeline. Her only timeline is to rush to beat other reporters to their news deadlines. That her questions brings the witness back and forth thru different moments of the crime is par for the course.

WTF?

Why bother to use refined truth when we can use synthetic truth? isn't that a better blend for for the blase?

But no I feel you JT, Maybe you could tell us how the "truth in the raw"is "refined" since you know so much about it. IS it put into a cyclytron and spun and so many revolutions a minute? Is it put into a beaker and boiled into hot air?

How is the "refined" truth any superior to "synthetic" truth?

And why do you think their is no need for the media to do it's job? OR even how? Do you know how to do a news reporters job from your one summer working at a TV News station? How do you have any idea what is par for the course?

titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   16:50:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: titorite (#256)

And why do you think their is no need for the media to do it's job? OR even how? Do you know how to do a news reporters job from your one summer working at a TV News station? How do you have any idea what is par for the course?

The reported did her job, however the subject failed to deliver the material in a neat timeline, and rather followed the questions as asked. That, is par for the course. What isn't par for the course is a tale that has generated no interest beyond the half dozen or so adherents on 4um. When even one Muzzie from Great Britain buys your hallucinogenic yarn of red tint, out of work actors,scores of conspirators and store front mannequins, please give me a nudge.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   18:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Jethro Tull (#261) (Edited)

The reported did her job, however the subject failed

You contradict yourself sir.

Did she do her job or did she fail to do her job?

Make up your mind.

Do you even understand how they do their job?

Tell me Jethro What experience do you have in media? Any?

Ever worked at a newspaper or Radio news station? Got any medical backround? Are you a member of law enforcement or have direct relatives that are?

If not then, thier really is no way you have any idea what you are talking about nor any way you know what is "par for the course" let alone what is not par for the course.

Edited to make it sound more polite.

titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   20:51:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: titorite (#263)

Ever worked at a newspaper or Radio news station? Got any medical backround? Are you a member of law enforcement or have direct relatives that are?

Yes, yes and yes.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   21:17:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: Jethro Tull (#266) (Edited)

Yes, yes and yes.

Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.

Come on now, That isn't the way you wanna play.

titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   21:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: titorite (#269)

Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.

Sure you have buddy

I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.

And your experince is?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   21:35:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Jethro Tull (#272)

I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.

And your experince is?

I have trouble believing any and all of that from the way you handle yourself here.

And if you really did have an RN license then you would understand the fakes and flaws of both this event and boston alot more.....Blood loss is no joke and even RNs understand basic first aid. And why a wheel chair would never be used for transport ever.

I have a degree in massage therapy. Two family members that are paramedics... another thats a doctor.

Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either.

titorite  posted on  2013-06-02   21:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: titorite (#274)

I've exaggerated my resume, eh?

I also I hold two college degrees, an AAS in Applied Science (Nursing) and a BS in Business Administration. I also built, owned and sold a successful business and I'm currently a licensed private detective.

Care to lay a bet on anything I've...eh...exaggerated?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-02   21:50:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, GreyLmist, Lod, all (#276)

currently a licensed private detective

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   8:56:05 ET  (5 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: wudidiz (#291)

Are these pics simply meant to ridicule?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:03:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: Jethro Tull (#292)

Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   9:09:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: wudidiz (#293)

Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)

So your answer is yes to the ridicule with the added component of levity. Gotcha.

Let me in on your levity please.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:14:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Jethro Tull (#294)

You know I'm just kiddin around. Lighten up, JT, it's just another thread. I love you, have a good day, Sir :)

wudidiz  posted on  2013-06-03   9:18:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: wudidiz (#295)

It wasn't that long ago that your wife? grabbed your PW and posted your life history here on 4um. It was embarrassing to you and you asked for her comment to be taken down. It was immediately. I recall enough about your background to post a similar string of pics about you, and like you, it would be done simply for the purposes of levity. I'll hold my fire and yeah, have a great day.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   9:33:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Jethro Tull, wudidiz, titorite (#296)

Interviewer: Did you witness some discourteous razzing by the accused of a Private Eye's credentials that had been posted of their own volition at this location?

Witness: Sadly, yes I did and from another so accused as well.

Interviewer: In comparison, what was your impression about the Private Eye's writ of ordinance as to one of the accused's personal info that had not been put in the public domain of their own volition?

Witness: It definitely had a higher scale of resounding impact...like hollow points. :(

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-03   14:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: GreyLmist (#303)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   15:15:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Jethro Tull, All (#305)

X-15  posted on  2013-06-03   15:28:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: X-15 (#307)

Thanks for this vid. Weston is a proud White Brit, standing tall in defense of his nation. The flood of human debris flooding across theirs and our border invite invading butchers to apply their trade. May his numbers multiply ten fold with each brutal attack.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-06-03   17:29:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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