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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 11913
Comments: 314

Published on May 23, 2013

BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street

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#81. To: IRTorqued (#77)

but, but! it takes the Limey cops twenty plus minutes to respond to a stabbing?

but, but! it takes the armed Limey cops twenty plus minutes to respond to a stabbing?

fixed

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-29   11:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: noone222 (#80)
(Edited)

Jeff Bauman throws the opening pitch at Fenway Park

Because actors don't need to take the time to do physical and mental rehabilitation therapy

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   11:27:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: noone222 (#80)

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

That's good. Thanks.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-29   12:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: wudidiz (#83)

wud, do you believe there was an explosion in Boston? If yes, were there people injured and some killed?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-29   12:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: christine, Turtle (#79)

I don't take anything Turtle says seriously, I assume he is trying to be funny.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-29   13:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Jethro Tull (#84)

wud, do you believe there was an explosion in Boston? If yes, were there people injured and some killed?

I believe there were two "explosions" at the Boston marathons and that one of them was a real bomb and the first one wasn't and that the people at the second explosion were really hurt and really killed.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-29   13:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: GreyLmist (#72)

perhaps we have reached the point where the bigger question is not what's happened but how much does it matter if it's real or not to those who want to believe the official versions.

That's the root of the problem for you and others of like mind.

There's the official version, and there's your version. You make no allowances for other versions because you just know you're right. You can't prove it but you know it. And if your version isn't believed, then that automatically means they accept the official version of events.

But this doesn't apply to you nearly as much as it does to some others here.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   13:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Jethro Tull (#71) (Edited)

The London sitch is only unusual b/c a soldier was involved. The same types of Blck on White HATE CRIME happens daily, hundreds of times both here and in Europe. A under reported aspect of this event is the budding White backlash that is building. It's time to skim thru Buchanan's "The Death of the West" one more time.

All crime is a hate crime. Unfortunately this does happen way too often and is obviously racist. However that hardly means that all blacks are racist, just this morning a black man in front of me paid for my coffee, I have no idea why because I did not know him or want anyone to pay for my coffee. I hardly ever drink coffee, but today I thought I needed something to get me going, so I got one.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-29   13:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: RickyJ, 4 (#86)

I believe there were two "explosions" at the Boston marathons and that one of them was a real bomb and the first one wasn't and that the people at the second explosion were really hurt and really killed.

This is the first I've heard of two explosions, but I'd appreciate any info regarding it. Did the first one, the fake one, hurt anyone?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-29   13:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: RickyJ (#88)

I agree regarding crime and only used the hate crime tag only to show the absurdity of the term and the way it's used one way -> White on Black.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-29   13:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Jethro Tull (#90)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   13:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Lod (#91)

Thanks Jim. So the theory goes one was real and one wasn't?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2013-05-29   13:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Lod, wudidiz (#91)

Cathy Gaubert Claims Her Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen From Flicker And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim http://govtslaves.info/cathy-gaubert-claims-her-daughters-photo-was- stolen-from-flicker-and-used-as-sandy-hook-shooting-victim/

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2013-05-29   14:00:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Artisan (#93)

That is just plain weird. They had plenty of kids killed, why not use their photos instead?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-29   14:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Jethro Tull (#92)

Well, the sounds of the explosions are distinctly different, fwiw.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   14:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Artisan (#93)

Another excellent reason for not using social media.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   14:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jethro Tull (#84) (Edited)

wud, do you believe there was an explosion in Boston? If yes, were there people injured and some killed?

JT, I watched the videos of the explosion numerous times. I could see a puff of powder shoot upward, a loud bang and an obvious shockwave blast. None of which came close to ripping clothes, removing limbs or even drawing blood. I don't need anyone else's version to judge what happened. There is video evidence and a lack of any evidence of death or damage other than faked pictures, videos and hearsay. It's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of looking at the available data as opposed to starting with what they say happened and (then) eliminating anything that can be proven otherwise -which would simply be doing it (investigating) backwards. If you get called to a murder scene do you start with looking for the killer and speculate why he did it or would you look for a body first?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz  posted on  2013-05-29   15:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: wudidiz, Jethro Tull (#97) (Edited)

I could see a puff of powder shoot upward, a loud bang and an obvious shockwave blast. None of which came close to ripping clothes, removing limbs or even drawing blood.

In your simplistic line of reasoning, everything you see on video can be faked with actors, fake smoke, pyrotechnics, and stage props.

In the real world there is the fact there are REAL bombs, REAL victims, and REAL bad guys.

Show me where anyone is seen changing from their "pre-bomb" clothes to their "post-bomb" clothes, and/or removing their legs.

Explain to me how hundreds of city cops would ALL decide to fake a bomb blast at the Boston Marathon, and not have anyone else, i.e. the EMTs, hospitals, funeral homes, FBI, and bystanders notice that this was fake.

Or did all those people decide to go along with the plot too?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2013-05-29   16:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: PSUSA2, Jethro Tull, X-15 (#87) (Edited)

Me: perhaps we have reached the point where the bigger question is not what's happened but how much does it matter if it's real or not to those who want to believe the official versions.

PSUSA2: That's the root of the problem for you and others of like mind.

There's the official version, and there's your version. You make no allowances for other versions because you just know you're right. You can't prove it but you know it. And if your version isn't believed, then that automatically means they accept the official version of events.

But this doesn't apply to you nearly as much as it does to some others here.

No, how much it matters if the official version is real or not is a problem only for you and likeminded others who insist that's all there is to consider as valid, right or wrong -- not people who haven't refused to ask whether it's real or not. Evidently, it doesn't matter much, if at all, to those like you who have been told a story with little else but some dubious film trusted as corroborative and some authoritative-sounding reports. However, there are valid issues with Lee Rigby's whereabouts for some time before the alleged attack, as I posted at #57 above, and so there is a possiblity (slight though it may be) that he could even have left the country prior. In addition to the CGI video debate, there has also been obvious photographic evidence from the onset that calls the official version into question as to how many suspects were allegedly involved at the perp scene and all attempts by me to get any open examination here at all of that conflicting evidence have been declined by those who are only concerned, or mostly so, with making researchers the priority to critically assess because of their non-compliance with officialdom's rendition. Reference photos A, B and C listed at Post #13 of another thread.

Edited for spacing and 2nd-link correction.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   16:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Lod (#96)

Another excellent reason for not using social media.

I use to avoid it, but now I see that things are too far gone, they know about us anyway by now, so I might as well try to educate a few people before they come to take us away to a FEMA camp.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-29   16:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Lod (#91)

At 8:40, that video shows a female with tourniquet below the knee on their left leg that isn't seen to be bleeding or injured.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   16:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: GreyLmist (#99)

No, how much it matters if the official version is real or not is a problem only for you and likeminded others who insist that's all there is to consider as valid, right or wrong --

I insisted no such thing.

But you proved my point for me. It's either believe you or accept the "official story".

"Reference photos A, B and C listed at Post #13 of another thread. "

The link is bad. But when it comes to pics, this threads OP shows how they were manipulated to try and show this is a false flag event.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   16:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: PSUSA2 (#102)

this threads OP shows how they were manipulated to try and show this is a false flag event.

This thread has moved to the realm of the absurd.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   16:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: X-15 (#103)

This thread has moved to the realm of the absurd.

Is that a surprise?

At least GLMist stays on topic and the allegations of blindness are more subtle than from some others here.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   17:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: (#89)

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: GreyLmist (#99)

there is a possiblity (slight though it may be) that he could even have left the country prior.

No, there's not. Lee Rigby at 00:20 seconds in the blue shirt/jersey.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: PSUSA2 (#102) (Edited)

The link is fixed and no, I did not prove your point. You and X-15 proved mine -- that it doesn't really matter to people like you if the story is real or not, just acceptance of whatever supports it and rejection/ridicule of whatever/whoever doesn't comport with it.

Edited to include working link for the photo evidence mentioned at #99.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   17:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: X-15 (#106)

Forgot to ping you to #107. That video is from two days before the alleged attack, iirc.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   17:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: titorite (#105)

What was that personal attack about?

Stop, please.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   17:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: titorite, Jethro Tull (#76)

Trail of blood at 01:10 OOPS!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: X-15, All (#108)

That video is from two days before the alleged attack, iirc.

Exclusive Lee Rigby two day before woolwich attack (itvnews) - YouTube

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GreyLmist  posted on  2013-05-29   17:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#109)

What was that personal attack about?

Stop, please.

Shock...

Shock gets me incensed...

Besides I am not sure how much I should be nice to some people anymore....

LIke the boston cops...

Lurker has a point about them being in on it.

They are in on it... do Boston police deserve any respect? not in my book... And Jethro there.... Jethro has been going on and on about boston and has not even bothered to learn so little about it so as to learn that their were two explosions?

I am sorry but that is the kind of intellectual negligence that is mentally crippling.

I suppose I coulda said all I had to say with out getting so personal....

That said ,if anyone does not know that their were multiple explosions in Boson... then they have no business what so ever debating boston with anyone.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: X-15 (#110)

Yeah how come that blood was not present in other videos... and how come you over look the medias red tinting of the black mans hands?

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: GreyLmist (#108)

Proof that Lee Rigby was 'spirited out of the country'?? None, and NOBODY else even remotely thinks that this was some kind of *False Flag Event!!*. That's just wishful conjecture on you and some other deluded individuals part.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2013-05-29   17:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: X-15 (#110)

Red line oops.

I guess that we are terminally stupid.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   17:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: GreyLmist (#107)

The link is fixed

That may be, but there are no pics A B or C there.

"people like you if the story is real or not, just acceptance of whatever supports it and rejection/ridicule of whatever/whoever doesn't comport with it. "

"people like you". lol. There's that subtlety I was writing about.

Give me a reason to support it. I see no reason to accept what you're saying. Just because you're going against the MSM / .gov "official story" doesn't make you right in your allegations.

Believe me, I could ridicule you if I wanted to. But why get personal? I'll leave that to your compatriots.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   17:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: titorite, 4 (#113)

Good discussion should be about:

1. Ideas

2. Events

3. Personalities/people

Anyway, that's all I have on this one.

Peace.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-29   17:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: PSUSA2 (#116)

But why get personal? I'll leave that to your compatriots.

It is easy for a satanist to lie.

Your sig line clearly contradicts your words quoted above. You have been making it personal for awhile now.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-29   17:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: titorite (#118)

It is easy for a satanist to lie.

Disagreement does not equal personal.

Show me where I lied.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2013-05-29   17:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: PSUSA2 (#119)

click your sig then re-read your post I referenced.

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