4um: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT

Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event.

The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school

A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene.

Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete.

He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'

In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.'

It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing.

Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'.

The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'.

Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals.

'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'

He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'.

'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything.

'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.'

I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street

here's my thoughts on the matter. i think both sides have asked some very good questions, including the 25 in wud's post above, which cannot be answered by any of us. they are good questions nonetheless. because of those, i am on the fence about this and the Boston marathon incident.

but i will offer this--since i KNOW that they perpetrate false flags and staged events, my inclination is to suspect that that is what it is until it's proven to me that it isn't.

I've never seen a woman walk nonchalantly past a man with bloodied hands and knives, no.

Where we differ are in the answers to those questions, and how those answers are arrived at.

For example there is a post here somewhere (this is hard to keep track of) that supposedly show some sort of fake blood packet being opened. I sure can't see that. This is just one example.

Then there are those that don't like it when we don't see the same things they say are so very evident.

The following commentary, video, and photos were sent to me via email by a good friend and very knowledgeable individual who blogs at www.gasskammer.blogspot.com. Minor edits have been made by me, John Friend.

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Turn off audio. In the beginning: watch carefully. The woman sitting by the soldier on the street is stroking/caressing his back. Like a mother would do to a hurt/sad child. (To "woo" somebody?) But to do this with a corpse??? (And a corpse that's maybe or maybe not missing a head.)

Also: If he was not dead - these women would have screamed and yelled for help, wouldn't they? For an ambulance, a doctor, first aid, something. Or made a bandage from some clothes, or something like that. But they're doing nothing to help. Except the one woman who's stroking/caressing the soldier's back. (Eh... is this what someone who's just been cut with big knives needs? Stroking and caressing? How about stopping the bleeding? As surely one bleeds when one has been cut with big knives a few minutes earlier.)

Did the soldier guy die at all? At what point did he die? If he died before these women came, then why sit and caress his back? If he died after, who discovered his death and when?

Another funny pic:

Several things are peculiar here:

Where the hell did all those people suddenly come from? I mean, there's just been gunfire. Cops shot two guys. People didn't run away? And the people are allowed to hang around?
They're almost stepping on the soldier guy. No-one wants to put a blanket over him or something? It's like he's just decoration, or something of no relevance. [Ed note: it's like he's a prop in a PSYOP]

And, was the guy dead or wasn't he? Nobody wants to check?

Very busy talking about something. Nobody minds the poor probably-dead guy. The guy to the left is checking his text messages. The others are talking to each other.

The women aren't that concerned about the dead/almost dead guy though. First they make some conversation with one of the "terrorists." Really? People believe this?

Later one of the women decide it's time to sit down with the dead/almost dead guy and stroke his back. The two other women obviously feel that one woman is enough for back-stroking, and focus on conversation instead.

Terrorist guy has forgotten everything about killing the soldier guy. I mean, he's probably still alive since the lady is stroking his back, right?

Or was it the other way around, maybe?

Not sure. Anyway, here nobody's very interested in the well-being of the soldier:

Watch the clip again. .... It's all very weird. Very, very weird.

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Very, very weird indeed. The people accepting and promoting the official story are essentially saying this depiction of what happened is true (click to enlarge):

Do you really believe this? Really?

I have publicly challenged Mike Delaney, Scott Roberts, and Andre Anglin to a debate regarding this event and my views on media fakery and PSYOPS in general. Stay tuned for that discussion folks, you won't want to miss it!

I'll give you an example. I told an employee to call 911 after another employee got shot. She said "But I don't know how!!!" So I had to do it.

Then I had to work up the balls to go out there, not knowing what I'd find, because for all I knew she was still alive and bleeding out. That too will mess with ones head; it sure messed with mine. No one else was doing anything, so I did it. That could have been fatal for me too.

I'm not only leery of what's reported on the MSM, but also that which is reported on the Internet.

It's much easier to put up a YouTube video making all sorts of wild claims that have no basis in fact than it is for a production crew to stage a "fake" event in the middle of Boston during a live televised event with thousands of actual bystanders present at the event itself, incorporating the entire city of Boston police department, EMT personnel, hospital trauma teams, etc., as part of the "fakery".

Same goes for this London incident, where the range of people who would need to be involved is enourmous.

Seeing people post questionable "proof" on Internet forums only raises the question as to WHY some people are so adament that these events are all "fake".

that's a very good point, but i have to say. i am amazed by the *miracle* bloodless victims! ;)

Sorry to burst your Karnak bubble, but you don't know what she knows. We can all agree on that.

OTOH, I'd like a $10 dollar bill for every time I've seen a person scoot under signs like the one pictured above.

I think there is a sympathetic, knee jerk reaction to Muslim crime, based on past false flag incidents. BTW, not to excuse the London murder, but the Muzzie made valid points in his video confession, vis a vis, Britain's foreign policy.

I know they used computer software to fake tint his hands and knives red. I know he didn't have blood on his hands or knives. I know that she would have known that too as he was in front of her field of vision. I know that. It's not a matter of opinion.

So help me understand your comment; she's part of the acting troupe because you know she saw the perp apply tint to various body parts?

This crime, while horrific, is par for black-on-white crime worldwide, especially in South Africa and Zimbabwe right now: lots of farmers are being hacked and slashed by criminal blacks, yet not one of those crimes are being hailed as *False Flag Event!!*. Just because the crime scene in London doesn't fit some idiots pre-conceived notion of what a crime scene should look like doesn't give them license to dance around like a circus clown shouting *False Flag Event!!*.

Get a grip, people, it's just another mud chimpout. It's Not A False Flag Event.

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Well hell, all kinds of folks will do all kinds of things to get on TV... like Maurry or springer... ewww.

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There is clear photographic evidence that something/someone is being deceptively hidden about the alleged perp scene, which indicates that the official story is suspect itself. Either you are deliberately working to obfuscate that fact deceptively too or are under the impression that you can make such a wrongful assertion as fact without so much as adequately availing yourself of even a simple and obvious evidentiary presentation that shows officaldom "pulling the Woolwich over the public's eyes" on this, so to speak, for some as yet unknown reason/motivation:

On the left is the alleged victim scene. On the right is the alleged perp scene with a third body on the ground that can't be the alleged victim's. They are different areas with different scenery. The official story claims 2 perps shot. Who is the third person on the ground at the perp scene and why the secrecy in the official story about that?

References: Post #159 above by wudidiz + Photo examples A and C listed at Post #13 of 4um Title: Woolrich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?

Edit to add Photo B at Post #13 linked above for a different view of the perp scene with the unidentified third body in the road there towards the top-left of the pic and to the right of the news banner:

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Video link 2 - Witness Describes Woolwich Shooting - Attackers 'Filmed' Each Other: Compare the Black male witness at 0:46-0:54 of Video 1 above with the Black male holding a probable phone camera who appears by two alleged White male witnesses in this video at 1:17-1:38.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Both White males in that video interview (alleged local residents) claim (like the alleged rapper/tweeter in the opening post of this thread) that the policewoman shot one of the suspects. Those 3 alleged witness statements conflict with this mirror.co.uk news report, which says a male colleague shot the suspect because she was unable to draw her firearm and that she was carrying a bright yellow taser. Note that both of the males interviewed in this video mention seeing weapons in the hands of a suspect but mention no concern for the safety of the women at the scene or any thought to protect them even by calling out to move away from the vicinity of the armed suspects.

Video 4 - Witness Describes Woolwich Shooting: White male witness/local resident Joe in white hooded jacket as seen in Video 2 above. Says there that his friend's mother went to stand next to the victim but states in this video of another interview with him that she sat next to the body. Moreover, he again expresses no concern for the safety of the women at the scene near the armed suspects -- perhaps because he knew it was a staged show.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Assume for a moment that perp #1, upon being shot by the females "male colleague", didn't collapse and assume the fetal position as shooting victims do in Hollywood, but rather remained on his feet (not at all uncommon) thus allowing the males "female colleague" a chance to fire at him (as the boys described in the vid). This scenario satisfies their statement as well as the report in the mirror.co.uk.

PS: I took the liberty of crossing out extraneous verbiage in you statement above. I learned, long ago, that less is better when describing crime scenes.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

There seems to be some measure of media-insurance involved, of a sort, that might be expected to minimize the risk of false flag/hoax discovery. Maybe the main objective in this case is to implement police state measures and legislation before the public questions much about it. An Extremism Task Force was already established there very quickly.

That was nice, thanks. Same to you. If you could review the photographic evidence at Post #177 and give your experienced opinion, I'd appreciate your thoughts on that as to the additonal unidentified person on the ground at the perp scene being censored from the official story.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

Post 177: the left hand photo shows the soldier down, looking @ him from a Southerly direction.

The right hand shot shows the soldier from a Northern view and the two perps down in the background.

What about the total lack of blood in those pictures? did you miss that? or the exagereated red right hand of the alleged killer? it is almost redder than the red paint of the building in the backround.

What of the fact that the "shot" killers arent bleeding? Did you not notice that the downed killers aren't bleeding?

And why are all those people milling about a dead man and murderers... civilians normally flee this kind of thing, hell anyone flees gun shots and dead people lest they die of gunshots from being in that proximity......

But surely look at those photos again and tell greyL , me , god and the world all again about what you see in those photos jethro.

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Why? does 168 talk to the photos in question or do you prefer this cat and mouse side step game?

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Are these civilian witnesses "trained observers" in the sense that they went through the FBI Academy and are trained to take in multiple details, accurately and without bias, at a crime scene both during and after a crime?? I took a few sample FBI test questions during a FedGov job fair several years ago and I was surprised at how poorly I did at noticing details in a few photographs when questioned later about what I observed. IMO, the witnesses cannot be relied upon to give 100% perfect recall about what they observed.

I personally have excellent observational skills. And I enjoy an unbiased outlook on life in general.

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Why? To keep an open mind. #168 discusses the hoax regarding the missing blood. For you to accept some Internet accounts b/c they fit into your view, while dismissing a straightforward report that differs, shows me that you aren't open to material that doesn't support your version.

No Blood On Hands London Beheading Video Debunked! (Video)

A lot of you are going on about this video of the London beheading where it appears the man has no blood on his hands to prove that this event was a false flag.

This cropped zoomed and altered version of the video is nothing more than a slight adjustment in the hue and saturation to make it appear as if there is no blood on the mans hands.

You that have watched the video that I speak of will notice that the mans hands are unnaturally orange due to this and the red paint line on the street has also changed to a reddish – orange color.

I believe in false flags and I believe in conspiracy theories. But I also know Youtube channels will make up stuff and alter videos to create a conspiracy to make that almighty Youtube advertising dollar.

Here is a video I made using the original clip then altering it using the hue and saturation to make it appear as if there is no blood on the mans hands very similar to the video I am speaking of.

Here is a link to the original Youtube source video that was used in the “no blood on hands” video. As you can see it was zoomed and cropped and edited. But it was not edited for the “no blood on hands effect”, That was just an accidental by product of poor video editing.