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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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Published on May 23, 2013 BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event. The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene. Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete. He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!' In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.' It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing. Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'. The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'. Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. 'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.' He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'. 'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. 'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.' I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street Poster Comment: Food for thought
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#268. To: Jethro Tull (#267)
No, I wont because you are trying to change the subject to different racially charged event that has no correlation with the British event what so ever. So, I am not gonna change the topic at your request. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Yes, yes and yes. Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter. Come on now, That isn't the way you wanna play. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Suit yourself.
I shall, Raw truth is the best truth. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Sure you have buddy I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s. And your experince is?
JT: If you, and others, can arrive at this conclusion, some 4,000 miles from the crime scene, aided only by Google, then I’m certain some bright minds in London, perhaps in the aggrieved Muslim community, will be able to blow this case sky high. Their lack of curiosity to what you see as the obvious must be troubling. I wasn't talking about the London crime when I stated that about the Khan character and company. I was referring to something about them mentioned at the source you posted, which was from several years back: Khan admitted planning to lure a soldier off the streets then film the beheading. He was described in court as having the "most violent and extreme Islamist views" and his aim was to deter any Muslim from joining the British Army. How to expand Military actions from Afghanistan and Iraq into Pakistan, the port direction that the pipleline is planned to go? whatreallyhappened.com: Fake Al Qaeda ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
And your experince is? I have trouble believing any and all of that from the way you handle yourself here. And if you really did have an RN license then you would understand the fakes and flaws of both this event and boston alot more.....Blood loss is no joke and even RNs understand basic first aid. And why a wheel chair would never be used for transport ever. I have a degree in massage therapy. Two family members that are paramedics... another thats a doctor. Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
you know not of what you speak. Tom is retired NYPD. Is a registered nurse. Has two college degrees. Owned his own businesses and is a licensed private detective. you really need to stop with the ad hominems.
I've exaggerated my resume, eh? I also I hold two college degrees, an AAS in Applied Science (Nursing) and a BS in Business Administration. I also built, owned and sold a successful business and I'm currently a licensed private detective. Care to lay a bet on anything I've...eh...exaggerated?
There were no bloody shoeprints at London beheading because it was a fake scene. Pic of Suspect #2's clean-looking shoes at 4um Title: NODISINFO Fake Blood and Clothing Shears Confirmed in Woolwich Edited pic sizing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Friends, it is now time for me to ignore this thread. When we want to examine our CVs, instead of our thoughts, insights, and ideas; it's time for me to shut it down. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Forgive me for not buying it. It is not ad homenum. I am having trouble believing him. MInd blowing I do not believe it trouble. You can say believe it over and over but if those private investigative skills are real why are we arguing over a lack of blood? Why are some trying to confuse the subject with trayvon martin? This is not ad hominum. This is me having trouble believeing the words on my screen? If JT is the private eye How come all his eyes see is what the MSM says is there... and when the flaws of the story are pointed out they are dismissed with prejudice? Some private eye! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Sure you have buddy I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s. Ouch!!! That should leave a mark, but it won't. Sad ain't it? Back to Lee Ann Womack for me. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm? Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Bloody sad indeed.
yep. i agree. this is BS. the accusations of lies and character assassination isn't going to be tolerated.
Sigh. This isn't high school. Their is no popularity contest to win by posting for the most supportive zinger. Listen!! This is important for you to understand. We are a community of friends on this site that many of whom actually know and like each other. Some we tolerate, while some others tolerate us with respect. So when we build a site and nurture relationships for over a decade in a place we call home that cristine sooooo graciously hosts for us for discussion and truth, when someone goes around throwing shit on the walls and kicking the dogs it is not my job to ask them if they would like another beer. I am asking you to stop throwing shit on our walls (and kicking the dogs) if you aspire to be a valued member of our community, TIA To the proud the slightest repulse or disappointment is the last indignity. WILLIAM HAZLITT, Characteristics “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke? Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Why sully it with public disdain? I would of had no problem with it. Hence the reference to pride, a very self defeating force. You yearn to swagger in public and suffer in private. Do you you not understand, try this one: There is a paradox in pride--it makes some men ridiculous, but prevents others from becoming so. CHARLES CALEB COLTON, Lacon Trust me, life is a chain of mistakes, you are defined by what you do about them. I am not angry with you, I don't wish you to be angry with me, I think your behavior on this forum demonstrates a high degree of narcissism and is not conducive to learning or open discussion. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
How noble of you to point out my short comings and failures. Thank you for capitolizing upon that at this time. Few could of done a better job. Sheesh. Wanna do us all a favor and stop acting like such a be drama queen about it... so I have problems with jethros career paths or his aptitude in those fields. SO what buttinski hmmmmmm You think I am narcissistic for disagreeing with jethro over this thing? For real? No way...I aint. but you know whatever. Or that Trayvon martin has relevance to this business of Britian? He doesn't but again whatever. You know what hmmmmm, Whatever. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Is it just me or does anybody else notice at least a wee bit more joviality and toleration around here when the slings and arrows are flying aplenty towards skeptics of the official version in this issue? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I have no dog in whatever fight you are in. I haven't read this thread. My one comment to JT was on the irony of how wrong you were about his career path. My comments to you have been exactly as stated to make you aware that you are a disruptive force in an open community of friends and ask that you graciously become one of us with an open heart and mind. There is only one top dog or king of the hill here and she don't say shit. That demonstrates benevolence and patience to a fault. You are certainly free to ignore my observations and advice that you take as personal attacks and post as you please. Personally if a friend tells me I stink I'll say thanks and go take a bath. Have a nice day! “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Then why are you making anything of it at all in the first place?! ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
Are these pics simply meant to ridicule?
Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)
So your answer is yes to the ridicule with the added
component of levity. Gotcha. Let me in on your levity please.
You know I'm just kiddin around. Lighten up, JT, it's just another thread. I love you, have a good day, Sir :)
It wasn't that long ago that your wife? grabbed your PW and posted your life history here on 4um. It was embarrassing to you and you asked for her comment to be taken down. It was immediately. I recall enough about your background to post a similar string of pics about you, and like you, it would be done simply for the purposes of levity. I'll hold my fire and yeah, have a great day.
I apologize to Jethro Tull for implying that he may of exaggerated about his credentials.
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No problem.
I think the question was GreyLmists, to wudididz.
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Ping to yall,.
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Corrected the above referenced link to my post at #277. There isn't a question from me to wudidiz there. I courtesy-pinged him to that post because the pic I used to show the clean condition of Suspect #2's shoes was from one of his threads on this topic. Did you mean to link to a different post? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I remember that. She was lying fwiw. Thanks for not firing back though. You're one of the good guys, JT. Peace. Interviewer: Did you witness some discourteous razzing by the accused of a Private Eye's credentials that had been posted of their own volition at this location? Witness: Sadly, yes I did and from another so accused as well. Interviewer: In comparison, what was your impression about the Private Eye's writ of ordinance as to one of the accused's personal info that had not been put in the public domain of their own volition? Witness: It definitely had a higher scale of resounding impact...like hollow points. :( ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Peace wud.
Interviewer: One more question, if you don't mind answering. Witness: Ask and I'll let you know if I'd rather not answer about it. Interviewer: Has anyone other than you frowned in the direction of the PI for that level of escalation? Witness: Not that I know of and don't expect to see any other such expressions of dismay. Interviewer: Why not? Witness: No further comment regarding the issues of condonance and bias at this time. That was more than one other question. Edited to expand the last line. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Concentrate on the underlined portions regarding the blood and crime scenes then extrapolate that to the yelping regarding the shooting victims in London.
#269. To: Jethro Tull (#266)
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#270. To: titorite (#268)
No, I wont because
#271. To: Jethro Tull (#270)
Suit yourself.
#272. To: titorite (#269)
Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.
#273. To: Jethro Tull (#242)
Me: I suspect that the Khan character and company could have been one of those fake Al Qaeda productions to promote war and expansion of it.
Islamists have threatened a number of times to behead a British soldier in retaliation for involvement in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Six years ago a group of British Pakistanis based in Birmingham were convicted of plotting such an attack and their leader, Parviz Khan, received a life sentence.
#274. To: Jethro Tull (#272)
I'm retired from the NYPD, hold an active RN license, and I did a radio show (WTTM 920 AM in NJ) for 2+ years with a co-host in the mid 90s.
#275. To: titorite (#274)
Not as impressive as your resume but not exaggerated either.
#276. To: titorite (#274)
#277. To: wudidiz, All (#238)
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They would have blood all over their shoes and at the very least would be standing right in the blood pool smearing it around and they would have tracked it all around the immediate area
#278. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, 4 (#276)
#279. To: Jethro Tull, Christine (#276)
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#280. To: Jethro Tull (#272)
Oh hogwash, You would say yes to anything to prove yourself right at this point. Are you trying to sell us this malarky that you've been a cop , an EMT, and a news reporter.
#281. To: Hmmmmm (#280)
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#282. To: Hmmmmm (#280)
#283. To: Lod, titorite (#278)
#284. To: titorite (#281)
Did you honestly think adding in your two negative cents was going to have a positive impact here Hmmmmmmm?
#285. To: Hmmmmm (#284)
#286. To: titorite (#285)
How much less "shit" could of been spared our walls with a private rebuke?
#287. To: Hmmmmm (#286)
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#288. To: Jethro Tull (#282)
sad indeed.
#289. To: titorite (#287)
#290. To: Hmmmmm (#289)
I have no dog in whatever fight you are in.I haven't read this thread.
#291. To: Jethro Tull, titorite, christine, GreyLmist, Lod, all (#276)
currently a licensed private detective
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#292. To: wudidiz (#291)
#293. To: Jethro Tull (#292)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#294. To: wudidiz (#293)
Only in an attempt to add some levity as well :)
#295. To: Jethro Tull (#294)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#296. To: wudidiz (#295)
#297. To: Jethro Tull (#296)
#298. To: titorite (#297)
#299. To: All (#297)
#300. To: GreyLmist, wududiz (#299)
#301. To: titorite, wudidiz, All (#299)
titorite: I think the question was GreyLmists, to wudididz.
#302. To: Jethro Tull (#296)
It wasn't that long ago that your wife? grabbed your PW and posted your life history here on 4um. It was embarrassing to you and you asked for her comment to be taken down. It was immediately. I recall enough about your background to post a similar string of pics about you, and like you, it would be done simply for the purposes of levity. I'll hold my fire and yeah, have a great day.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#303. To: Jethro Tull, wudidiz, titorite (#296)
#304. To: wudidiz (#302)
#305. To: GreyLmist (#303)
#306. To: All (#303)
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Witness: It definitely had a higher scale of resounding impact...like hollow points. :(
#307. To: Jethro Tull, All (#305)
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