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Title: BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRYA7ZuqvcU
Published: May 23, 2013
Author: Luxetti
Post Date: 2013-05-26 14:50:53 by FormerLurker
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Published on May 23, 2013 BUTCHERED SOLDIER Terror Attack in LONDON a HOAX? DEBUNKED & PROVEN AS GENUINE EVENT Was the Woolwich Attack a Hoax? (Debunked) Where is the blood? People are questioning whether the attack on a soldier in Woolwich yesterday was a fabricated event. The first guy goes for her with a machete... she took him out like Robocop...': Rapper's tweets among eyewitness accounts of horrific attack WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Onlookers recount murder in shocking detail from start to gruesome finish Boya Dee tweets: 'Two black brothers run over this white guy over and start chopping man's head off' Another witness said the two attackers behaved like 'crazed animals' 'They dragged him from the pavement and dumped body in middle of road' Heroic woman begged with terrorists to comfort and pray for dead soldier Suspects then 'went for police with machetes, a knife and handgun' Witness: 'I don't think they cared. Police were only ones who did shooting' Pupils cower in terror as jihadist killer totes gun near their school A rapper who witnessed the shocking Woolwich attack revealed the true horror of the situation as he posted a series of tweets from the scene. Boya Dee was among a number of eyewitnesses who saw the incident yesterday from start to finish, and described how the suspects tried to attack police officers after hacking at a man with a machete. He wrote: 'The two black bredas [brothers] run this white guy over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!' In another dramatic tweet, he added: 'The first guy goes for the female fed [police officer] with the machete and she not even ramping [messing about] she took man out like robocop never seen nutn [nothing] like it.' It was confirmed by police last night that two men had been arrested and officers from the counter-terrorist unit were leading the investigation into the killing. Another eyewitness revealed how he watched the two attackers behave like 'crazed animals'. The man, known only as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt in Woolwich, south-east London, like he was 'a piece of meat'. Fighting back tears, he told LBC Radio: 'They were hacking at this poor guy, literally. They were chopping him, cutting him. These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. 'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.' He said that after the 'horrendous' attack, the two men, in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them 'as if they wanted to be on TV'. 'They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road,' he said. 'They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. 'In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy.' I wasn't scared. Better me than a child': Incredible courage of the woman Cub Scout leader who confronted knife-wielding Islamic fanatic moments after he had slaughtered soldier in London street Poster Comment: Food for thought
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#18. To: FormerLurker (#14)
They're red either way. I watch the "original" video and it looks like they faked the red on his hands. Doesn't it look like that to you? The lady with the shopping cart. The people standing around. He's acting. The lady checking the "victim's" pulse. I think she got off the bus because she saw the guy moving?... He wasn't dead. The actor started talking about how it was okay for the women to check it out because he wasn't prepared to kill anyone in the first place. The women sensed that as anyone watching the charade would. Well that's an improvement. Excellent work. /sarc You're saying that the cops wouldn't notice if the soldier hadn't actually been killed? As far as the bystanders, do you think they blocked off the street prior to the event just to make sure regular people wouldn't be there to witness what occured, or did they just walk up to people and say here's a bunch of money, we want you to make believe that a soldier was killed? From the transcript - I've seen the video 'till I'm near daft. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
As far as the bystanders, do you think they blocked off the street prior to the event just to make sure regular people wouldn't be there to witness what occured, or did they just walk up to people and say here's a bunch of money, we want you to make believe that a soldier was killed? If the cops did they would be told to shut up about it and they would. We don't know who that was in the fluorescent uniforms ushering everyone off the set. I doubt the old lady with the cart who probably lives there was paid. She likely just didn't want anything to do with it and had to get home with her groceries. And it also clearly shows that the front of his jacket is spotless, contradicting the video, but that's not the point. The dude in your video almost made the point at about 13:10, but used the term "the government" when he should've used "JIZ". Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Why does he throw the knife down? Did they fake his death? Like they've done countless times before in movies and on tv? Please check this picture especially the left hand with the alleged cleaver and knife. There doesn't appear to be any blood there, and dude's index finger is on the knife's edge which appears to have no tang. Thanks much. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod, I'd put all the money I had on that image has been altered. Which doesn't say much, but still. The bloodless jacket says "I am clean and I have done nothing to soil myself. I have not event stabbed any one ." ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
The front of my shirt is spotless when I field-dress a deer BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY DEAD AND BLOOD ISN'T SPURTING EVERYWHERE!! Lee Rigby was dead when the muslim-nignogs went to work on him.
I have no idea why the hands are apparently blurred on the video, and clear in the photo image from the Sun.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#19. To: FormerLurker (#17)
The following shot is clear yet shows the blood on the hands...
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#20. To: wudidiz (#18)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#21. To: FormerLurker (#7)
'They dragged him from the pavement, dumped his body in the middle of the road and left (it) there.'
#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)
You're saying that the cops wouldn't notice if the soldier hadn't actually been killed?
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#23. To: FormerLurker (#17)
(Edited)
The following shot is clear yet shows the blood on the hands...
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#24. To: FormerLurker (#20)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#25. To: FormerLurker, anyone who can check source for photoshopping, 4 (#17)
#26. To: Lod (#25)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#27. To: wudidiz (#1)
(Edited)
#28. To: Esso (#23)
-Alex Kurtagic
#29. To: X-15 (#28)
bullshit. You argue that he can bloody his whole hands and the whole knives without getting blood on his jacket cuffs. The butcher at the meat market gets more blood on him handing me a rack a ribs. OK that maybe a bit exaggerative but no less so than you insistence of denial of the evidence... That red tint was there man. We didn't put it there. It was edited in as an effect.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#30. To: X-15 (#28)
I'm not making any claims. I'm just pointing out the video said the guy's coat was bloody. The picture indicates otherwise. I don't think any of this matters. The only thing that matters is why the Mad Muzzies were allowed in the country in the first place & by who.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#31. To: titorite (#29)
Please account for the death of Lee Rigby.
-Alex Kurtagic
#32. To: X-15 (#31)
Stop that. I pointed something out you failed to refute it so now you wanna move on to something else? NO. Account for my point first.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#33. To: titorite (#32)
No, the crux of the whole false flag allegation hinges on the death of Lee Rigby. Account for his death.
-Alex Kurtagic
#34. To: titorite, wudidiz, All (#32)
www.army.mod.uk/15366.aspx Put your false-flag theory to the test, contact the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers and query them about the death of Lee Rigby. Tell them you think it's all smoke and mirrors. Go on, I dare you.
-Alex Kurtagic
#35. To: X-15 (#34)
You are dodging my point about the blood. You are not even trying to say "Hey he could of put on the coat after the stabbing" You could of tried that. But it is the pity you did not. TO busy trying to get me to jump through hoops hoping to avoid the point I broght up . Don't avoid it. Oh as for my comment. It is invalidated when he touches himself. Real blood is sticky when fresh. If it was fresh on his hands it would of transfeered. And that still does not indicated why some news sources used a red tint. WHY?! Do you disregard the red tint? Do you say it is in our imagination? I hope not. Youd be calling Drudge the lair. Not me. I and other only point out what the media puiblish.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#36. To: titorite (#35)
Look, you've carried this fantasy pretty far, but like any wet-dream it's got to end. Account for the death of Lee Rigby.
-Alex Kurtagic
#37. To: Esso, 4 (#30)
three, two, one.....BAM!!! The only thing that matters is why the Mad Muzzies were allowed in the country in the first place & by who.
#38. To: PSUSA2 (#9)
I bet his gums are red.
#39. To: X-15 (#36)
Well, now your just being belligerent. I guess my point means nothing. My words pointless. I spoke to a problem in the video and you just over look it. how convenient for them. I mean no seriously. The wizard of OZ is telling you not to look at the man behind the curtain ... and you're all like "OK" what with this repitition " Account for the dead man , account for the dead man" Great job letting the NWO get away with it. Personally I think Nothing is worth over looking. No fantasy. No bullshit. A problem is a problem from the beginning till it's corrected. I will not over look nothing! And if we must agree to disagree about things... I guess... kinda shame.... I mean the red tint is obvious to any and all. To deny the fact that it was indeed a red tint filter is to help the oppressors. Overlook nothing. A problem is a problem is a problem. Do not overlook their mistakes because , for any reason. It is their, ... qwhat is the point of the denial of it? WHy are you want to over look it? Because it doesn't fit the story you've been presented? because it is a contridiction in the mainstream Theroee?? Why >
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#40. To: titorite (#39)
Account for the death of Lee Rigby. You can't unless you confess that he was a victim of TNB fueled by an injection of Islam.
-Alex Kurtagic
#41. To: X-15 (#40)
See thats just acting like a broken record. YOu refuse to acknowledge my point by parroting yours over and over. That is no way to have a civilized conversation nor does it require you to critically think about my points which must be so devastating to your world view that you are to react in this ... "lesser" manner rather than just reasoning it out with us. The problem for you is that their is no problem you're not willing to overlook. I disagree with that kind of life outlook.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#42. To: titorite (#41) (Edited)
Where and when was Lee Rigby killed?? His family was right there and he was in constant contact with them. Are you thinking that he was killed months ago and his body has been on ice for just such an occasion?? His barrack-mates turned on him, killed him, and dumped his body on the pavement and then released the crazy niggers to shuck and jive for paid witnesses in some grotesque theater straight out of Edgar Allen Poe's dead mind?? When presented with facts that require you to release your fantasy you just lock up.
-Alex Kurtagic
#43. To: X-15 (#42)
I haven't locked up, I have insisted that we not change the subject. You insist upon changing the subject. We are at an impasse.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#44. To: wudidiz (#13)
Are you paid to be stupid or are you just normally mentally ill?
"Have Brain, Will Travel
#45. To: FormerLurker (#0)
this was shot in 480P. how anyone can pick this apart is beyond me. it's 2 steps above Nintendo graphics. you can't see anything in the video because it's that low res. some people need to get a fucking grip here.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#46. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#45)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#47. To: Turtle, space-wasters, !graphic - gory - gross! (#44)
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#48. To: wudidiz (#46)
Wow. He sounds so sure of himself. He must know what he's talking about. Perhaps I was wrong about this. If I "think logically" like he demands, then I must come to the same conclusion. But I just can't do it. Perhaps drinking a bottle of tequila would help? Then I would understand?
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#49. To: PSUSA2 (#48) (Edited)
But I just can't do it. I know. Imagine.... people as smart as you and Turtle or maybe not even that smart operating a government, collecting your taxes, and producing psyops it'll come to you If I "think logically" like he demands, then I must come to the same conclusion.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#50. To: wudidiz (#49)
Only if I chug that bottle. I make that mistake once before though, with homemade wine about 25 years ago. Not a pleasant way to spend an evening, I assure you. So I think I'll just continue being a "every disaster is a false flag" denier. I dont have a puke bucket handy. it'll come to you
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#51. To: PSUSA2 (#50)
Pussy. “At the end of the day, this is the most tone-deaf president I could ever imagine, making such a speech at a time when our homeland is trying to be attacked literally every day.” -Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on “Fox News Sunday.” Graham’s freudian slip “Our homeland is trying to be attacked every day” is reminiscent of Bush’s “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” I dont have a puke bucket handy.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#52. To: wudidiz (#46)
Okay. I had only seen the one photo and one short video before I commented. After looking at a lot more footage, all of which is shot in pal 480p, here's my revised conclusion. When people are shot, when people are stabbed, when people are hacked on, they bleed. The only time they don't, is when they're already dead. Even then, they still bleed. So what are we seeing here really? Was this a dummy? Was this a prop that was fabricated? When you're shot with a 9mm, which is what the cops used, you will almost certainly survive. Head shots, and heart shots are about the only thing that will kill you from a 9mm. You will bleed though. A lot. So why stage this? Well, because Sweden is having a problem with their muslim immigrant problem, and they need to show their fellow Brits that they are just as dangerous in the UK. Rest assured, we had our own dog and pony show here in the US, and will likely have more very soon. I can't figure out why the Brits would need to do this to their own people, as they've already disarmed them, stifled dissent, created a welfare state that is unsustainable, and destroyed their economy. What purpose does this serve? I think once we figure that out, we'll likely figure out a lot of other things. Did they not support Israel again?
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
#53. To: FormerLurker (#0)
Where is the blood on his coat? You don't kill someone and only get blood on your hands. The other guy didn't have blood on his coat either. Also if these guys really wanted to start a war, they wouldn't have stayed around and waited for the police to come and arrest them, now would they? No, they would have run and taken cover to plan their next attack.
God is always good!
#54. To: wudidiz (#46)
I don't understand why anyone would believe this story. No blood flowing down the road equals eyewitnesses lying, which equals false flag! Who ever wrote that is right, some people are just thick.
God is always good!
#55. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#52)
After looking at a lot more footage, all of which is shot in pal 480p, here's my revised conclusion. When people are shot, when people are stabbed, when people are hacked on, they bleed. The only time they don't, is when they're already dead. Even then, they still bleed. So what are we seeing here really? Was this a dummy? Was this a prop that was fabricated? When you're shot with a 9mm, which is what the cops used, you will almost certainly survive. Head shots, and heart shots are about the only thing that will kill you from a 9mm. You will bleed though. A lot. So why stage this? Well, because Sweden is having a problem with their muslim immigrant problem, and they need to show their fellow Brits that they are just as dangerous in the UK. Rest assured, we had our own dog and pony show here in the US, and will likely have more very soon. I can't figure out why the Brits would need to do this to their own people, as they've already disarmed them, stifled dissent, created a welfare state that is unsustainable, and destroyed their economy. What purpose does this serve? I think once we figure that out, we'll likely figure out a lot of other things. Did they not support Israel again? I don't think it's the Brits. It's an element of the international cabal working with govt agencies as public/private partnerships. Contracts are given to friends and family as politicians are paid to vote for the programs. It's an industry involving privately owned media (tv, newspaper, magazines, websites) and video production companies hiring actors and crew. Employees honor the silence clauses in their contracts and civil servants do as they're told. It's a conspiracy. Okay. I had only seen the one photo and one short video before I commented.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow
#56. To: wudidiz (#55)
Well at least there's someone you don't blame. I don't think it's the Brits.
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#57. To: X-15 (#42)
He was evidently wearing civilian clothing, so was probably not on base duty for some time prior. The last time video evidence shows that he was seen in person was two days before he was allegedly killed. The last contact with his mother was apparently a text message of unknown date. He was separated from his wife, who reportedly lives in Yorkshire with their son, and wasn't expected to visit them until the weekend. His fiancee was in Helmand, Afghanistan. Where and when was Lee Rigby killed?? His family was right there and he was in constant contact with them.
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