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Title: Secret Arrests By Police In Wisconson Is This Big Bro's Future For Americans?
Source: MassPrivateI
URL Source: http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/20 ... -police-redact-names-from.html
Published: May 30, 2013
Author: MassPrivateI
Post Date: 2013-05-30 21:23:15 by titorite
Keywords: None
Views: 192
Comments: 11

Secret arrests by police in Wisconsin is this Big Brother's future for Americans?

Wisconsin - Police work that has traditionally been conducted in public view is increasingly being shielded, as insurance companies and municipal attorneys throughout Wisconsin push departments to withhold names from reports due to liability concerns.

A long-ignored federal privacy law is driving the redactions, interpreted by some municipal leaders to overrule a state public records law that says the full reports should be released. (Federal privacy law allows police to conduct secret arrests in AMERIKA! Is this the future of policing?)

With a growing number of departments redacting crash reports — and, in some cases, all incident reports — drivers injured in crashes may have no right to the identity of the other motorist, and communities can be kept in the dark about who police are arresting.

“It’s apparently gone to the point in Wisconsin that there is now such a thing as a secret arrest, which I think is just astonishing, and I think should concern every citizen deeply,” said Bill Lueders, president of the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council. “If just checking information against driver’s records renders it secret, then you can keep just about anything secret by taking that additional step.”

“Without access to people’s names on police reports, there is no accountability for how law enforcement is performing their jobs,” Robert Dreps an attorney said.

At least 30 municipalities now redact personal information from reports — citing the Palatine ruling and the 1994 federal Driver Privacy Protection Act it interpreted, according to media reports and agency websites. Officials in most of those municipalities say names are among the personal information barred from release. http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C123.txt

Among the departments making changes, many are redacting names from only crash reports, but some are withholding names from all reports. Police typically run all people they contact through the DMV database to confirm identifying information, and some attorneys interpret the Palatine ruling to mean data that touches the DMV database — even if it doesn’t originate there — is barred from release.

“The danger and the damage and the cost of violating the federal law is substantially more than violating the public records law,” Thompson said. “If you release a record that you’re not supposed to release, you’ve now violated somebody’s civil rights, and you’re now in federal court where you have no cap for damages.”

Dreps, an attorney representing the New Richmond News in a lawsuit alleging the redactions are improper, said the decision to redact when in doubt flies in the face of Wisconsin’s public records law, which instructs officials to err on the side of openness. He said Congress did not intend the driver privacy act to shield police reports from the public.

“It’s hard to imagine how congressional intent like that could go unnoticed for almost 20 years — if that were the intent — and then to be discovered in only one of the 50 states,” he said.

An informal opinion Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen issued in 2008 said names and other personal information should not be redacted from police reports based on the driver privacy act because releasing public records to requesters is a statutory duty and part of law enforcement’s official duties.

“Reading (the privacy act) so restrictively that law enforcement agencies would be precluded from carrying out public records functions … would subvert the important governmental objective of facilitating public oversight of police investigations; impair public confidence in law enforcement activities; and do exactly what Congress intended to avoid — impede execution by law enforcement officers of their legitimate public duties and responsibilities,” Van Hollen’s opinion said.

Despite recent requests from numerous municipal attorneys, Van Hollen has declined to issue follow-up guidance in the wake of the Palatine case. A November letter to a group of city attorneys said the Attorney General’s Office was waiting to see if the U.S. Supreme Court takes the case.

If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the Palatine case, it would likely take more than a year and wouldn’t necessarily address the public records issue, since the case focuses on how information is included on parking tickets.

The change could also come through Congress. U.S. Rep. Tom Petri, R-Fond du Lac, said he would consider taking action if the high court upholds the Palatine ruling.

“At some point it becomes important for the public to know about certain things, specifically accident reports which are used by insurance companies and others,” Petri said in a statement. “If the ruling in the 7th Circuit Court is upheld, then we may have to look at the law again to ensure that its original intent is clear.” www.wisconsinrapidstribun...305180096/?nclick_check=1

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#1. To: titorite, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *libertarians* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2013-05-31   0:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#1)

thanks for the ping... yeah if anyone is waiting for their sign.. they should stop waiting.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-31   0:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite (#0) (Edited)

I guess this re-defines the term "PUBLIC OFFICIAL."

EDIT: The truth is that "insurance" is bullshit too. Every individual should be personally liable for their acts. There should not be any such thing as a corporation or fictitious entity nor one that is shielded from liability for its acts.

We have been trained to accept so much crap that keeps us within their grasp and control. It's really time to say - fucketh you, Uncle Sambo. No more license plates, no more permits to have a fucking dog, or add on to my house, and no more fucking taxes. Get the fuck out of my face before I have to remove you myself.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-05-31   4:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

THis is why I am all about admiting to the problem so that it can be addressed as it must be addressed if not by us voluntearly than another nation shall whether we like it or not....

I think we should intervene in our governance ourselves voluntarly... because it is so completely possible in a varity of ways.

We just need to exersize the insistence of fair and proper governence.

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titorite  posted on  2013-05-31   22:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#4)

I think we should intervene in our governance ourselves voluntarly... because it is so completely possible in a varity of ways.

I left the system 25 years ago. I run my life and do not participate in any govt/corporate business. (No licenses etc., no SSN, no compliance).

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-01   5:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

I left the system 25 years ago. I run my life and do not participate in any govt/corporate business. (No licenses etc., no SSN, no compliance).

Be that as it may, it won't change the target destinations of Russia/chinas sights... Small towns of 3,000 or less wouldn't be targeted... So non involvement can still be a detrimental choice... then again maybe the USA will stop invading every other nation on earth so that China and russia wont be forced into a corner or retaliation....

(Kudos on the non participation though.. it is a hell of a bridge few cross)

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-01   6:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: titorite (#6)

I haven't got a problem "defending" my country or town. I will not finance murdering scumbags like the ones occupying the White House and congress for the past 100 years. Fuck em.

To be honest, I think the current beltway crowd are going to turn the country over to the communists ... be they Chinese or Russian. My prediction is that they'll allow an attack without much in the way of resistance. (However, they may just sell the country).

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-01   6:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

I can see that.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-01   6:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: titorite (#6)

(Kudos on the non participation though.. it is a hell of a bridge few cross)

Truthfully, I believe there's a "God" and that there's KARMA - and that removing myself from financing murderers of children is the very least I can do.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-01   6:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: titorite (#6)

I ain't into "rap" ... but the lyrics are terror-ific !

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

– Plato (429-347 BC)

noone222  posted on  2013-06-01   7:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#9)

Truthfully, I believe there's a "God" and that there's KARMA

Agreed 100%

Totally.

Removing oneself from the support of tyranny... IS that John Locke or Thomas Paine?

I am familiar with the concept and principle although as I followed the math I had trouble understanding the economics of it all. By virtue of been born with an authenticated birthing certificate Somehow the system is supported...Most likely printed on paper shipped from china.... and protected with the Queens Copyright.

Upon critical examination , our governmental structure reveals a convoluted essence that can not possible sustain itself. And in it's death throws it will thrash violently harming those near it and those far from it....

As evidenced with this secret arrest bullshit here.

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titorite  posted on  2013-06-01   16:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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