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War, War, War See other War, War, War Articles Title: How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 »» pierogi2000 ♂ Hitler offered Poland deals and hoped for an alliance, much like the one he had with Hungary, Italy, Spain, Slovakia, Japan and countless others At the time of Hitler's offer, Poland faced 3 options A) Stay neutral. Not possible B) Join Germany C) Say no and rely on France & England History has shown that Poland took the bloodiest route. But was it the right decision? Considering how France and England did little to nothing following Germany's attack. Furthermore how Poland was yet again lied to during the War by it's Western allies which ultimately led to 40 years of Soviet control anyway, would have joining Hitler been any worse? A German - Poland alliance would have taken over Russia, which Stalin feared. Adding Japan into the mix would have only strengthen an Eastern powerhouse. Hindsight Pearl Harbor doesn't happen and neither would the need for invasion of France/England. Instead we would see a legitimate Western & Eastern Europe. Ultimately, Polands ''foolish'' decision spared millions of Jewish lives. As an alliance would have meant every Jew in Central & Eastern Europe would have been sent to work/perish in the Russian gulags, now under German control. Comment & response: Harry: As usual I'll now ask you to go into detail as to what Britain could have done in September 1939 which it did not do. And as is traditional you'll now either ignore the question or start chucking insults around. pierogi2000: Furthermore how Poland was yet again lied to during the War by it's Western allies which ultimately led to 40 years of Soviet control anyway, Any chance that you can go into detail about those alleged lies or about what Britain could have done to dislodge the millions of Soviet troops? pierogi2000: Hindsight Pearl Harbor doesn't happen Why not? pierogi2000: Ultimately, Polands ''foolish'' decision spared millions of Jewish lives. As an alliance would have meant every Jew in Central & Eastern Europe would have been sent to work/perish in the Russian gulags, now under German control You got anything at all to back that claim? - What's more than nothing? Send in fighter planes, bomber, significant amount of supplies. Something, anything? - The assumption is that Poland-Germany pact taking over Russia keeps Hitler from moving West. Pat Buchanan actually wrote some interesting stuff on the subject buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068 "Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland's rescue. But where is the evidence that Adolf Hitler, whose victims as of March 1939 were a fraction of Gen. Pinochet's, or Fidel Castro's, was out to conquer the world? But if Hitler was out to conquer the world — Britain, Africa, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, South America, India, Asia, Australia — why did he spend three years building that hugely expensive Siegfried Line to protect Germany from France? Why did he start the war with no surface fleet, no troop transports and only 29 oceangoing submarines? How do you conquer the world with a navy that can't get out of the Baltic Sea? If Hitler wanted the world, why did he not build strategic bombers, instead of two-engine Dorniers and Heinkels that could not even reach Britain from Germany? Why did he let the British army go at Dunkirk? Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell? Why, when Paris fell, did Hitler not demand the French fleet, as the Allies demanded and got the Kaiser's fleet? Why did he not demand bases in French-controlled Syria to attack Suez? Why did he beg Benito Mussolini not to attack Greece? Because Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 2.
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