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Title: Leaker of NSA program: ‘I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy’
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URL Source: http://www.boston.com/politicalinte ... y3yUfaYZM0EP7kWJiZO/story.html
Published: Jun 9, 2013
Author: f
Post Date: 2013-06-09 16:25:52 by PSUSA2
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Views: 2372
Comments: 100
A British newspaper Sunday revealed the source of the leak revealing the NSA’s extensive surveillance of US communications. Edward Snowden, a former CIA technical assistant who now works for a defense contractor with ties to the National Security Agency, asked the Guardian newspaper to reveal his identity. “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the newspaper in a remarkable, rambling interview that touched on his reasons for the leak, how he took precautions in not revealing documents that could harm particular people, how he became disillusioned, and how he expects his life as he knows it to end. “I don’t want the story to be about me. I want it to be about what the US government is doing.” “I’m willing to sacrifice all of that because I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, Internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.” The Guardian first disclosed that the NSA has been collecting cellphone metadata — time of calls, their length, their destination, but not the contents of the conversation — for many business calls within the United States and from the United States to foreign countries. Since the disclosure, President Obama and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper have acknowledged the program, saying it is an essential tool for revealing possible patterns that could lead to discovering terrorism plots. They said the program was overseen by a secret spy court. “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them.” said Snowden, who added that he has been holed up in a hotel room in Hong Kong and hopes to receive asylum, possibly from Iceland.
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#1. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
Wow. Well done, Mr.Snowden! Thank you, patriot. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Heroic.
Yep. I heard that jackass, Peter King, sniveling and whining about this tonight so that pretty much said the young man did the right thing.
Paul Craig Roberts
Can't say enough for this, but he too will find out that the PTB don't care, they'll lock up or kill anyone.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
There ought to be an award for people like him and Bradley Manning. Something Anonymous or other similar organization can give out.
Very wise words. Paul Craig Roberts
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry Mr. Snowden is a patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it. You know that anyone who is reviled by such as Obama, Peter King and Diane Fineswine is probably a guy you would want to hang out with. Paul Craig Roberts
To hell with the U.S. government, it's time for everybody to spill anything that they thought should not be disclosed. After the IRS scandals, Benghazi, and the evidently enormous amount of corruption in the Oval Orifice and Congress that goes back decades, it's time. The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion. I'll start spilling some interesting 'stuff' in another week.
#2. To: 4um (#0)
#3. To: Lod (#1)
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#4. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
“I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the newspaper ...
#5. To: James Deffenbach, katniss, 4 (#3)
burn these words into your memory -
#6. To: Lod (#1)
Well done, Mr.Snowden!
#7. To: Lod (#5)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#8. To: Lod, James Deffenbach, katniss, 4 (#5)
burn these words into your memory -
"My only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country." ~ Nathan Hale, as he was led to the British Gallows for spying against the British.
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
Mr. Snowden is a patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#10. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#11. To: X-15 (#10)
Toody Lef will get after you if you aren't careful. Who is Toody Lef you may ask. Well, she is the dance instructor here for the IRS line dance. Has a sister named Toody Right evidently. I wonder if Toody Right has as big an ass as Toody Lef. Never fear. Toody Lef be gettin' 'em ready fo' Anaheim!
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this. Heroic.
God is always good!
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
Roger that. You know that anyone who is reviled by such as Obama, Peter King and Diane Fineswine is probably a guy you would want to hang out with.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
I'd say that is the understatement of this decade. Hopefully as he stated he has enough information to keep him out of harms way. It would seem to be a risky proposition to hire an intelligent, principled man to perpetrate the the acts our government considers business as usual. I wish him well and can only hope that the damage he has done is enough to wake some of the dumb asses that call themselves Americans. Though my nature does not lead me to be optimistic. Heroic.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#15. To: RickyJ, Jethro Tull (#12)
The problem that our would-be tyrants face though is that there are likely to be other courageous individuals who value liberty and the welfare of all enough to take the plunge and willingly sacrifice themselves to do what is right. And that is a lot of courage. The Tyrants Who Would Be (TWWB) do not understand that viewpoint and I am sure that it scares them. Of course the apathy of the Baaing herd of Sheeple aids the TWWB but the Sheeple are so dumbed down and Psychologically cowed and controlled that they just gaze fixedly in to the Boob Toob - until the day that they are rounded up and declared unnecessary excess population. It is up to the Sheep Dogs, such as this brave young man, to protect them from their own passivity. Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this.
#16. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#2) (Edited)
So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess. I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor. Heroic.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: X-15 (#10) (Edited)
Yes. I think it's time to pile it on. It's not just people like us that are pissed. It's pretty much everyone. I can see that in the article comment sections. They really stepped in it this time. People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key. Instead of alienating certain groups, they alienated everyone. The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion. I'll start spilling some interesting 'stuff' in another week.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)
Doubtful. You're biased due to the fact that you associate with like-minded people here at 4um and elsewhere. For the vast majority, they're oblivious. "If I'm not doin' anything wrong, I've got nuthin' to worry about." As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times. People understand their own personal privacy.
Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does.
IMO that is the key.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#19. To: Esso (#16)
Yesterday on the "news", I heard a guest try and make the connection to Chinese intelligence because of the Hong Kong connection. It was as if he was embarrassed to try and make the connection. freebeacon.com/nsa-leaker-surfaces-in-hong-kong/ is something similar to what I saw. I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#20. To: 4um (#18)
In Hong Kong, ex-CIA man may not escape U.S. reach
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#21. To: Esso (#18)
Did bush or clinton even have this many scandals hit at one time? Not from what I can recall. And these scandals aren't about interns and cigars. " As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... " It takes all kinds. But who makes it appear that this is a universal truth in this country? The media and the kikes that own and control it. I think it's an illusion they use to try and keep us isolated. They pit us against the "sheeple", when I'm not sure anymore how many sheeple there are out there. We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#22. To: PSUSA2 (#21)
Like I said, we'll see, but I'll betcha shekels for bagels this thing is Nowhereville. Even if they were to throw the JIZ figurehead under the bus, they'll just replace him with a more virulent version.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Esso (#22)
Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am? lol You're right though. Just have to wait and see. Perhaps we'll bomb Iran and this will all go away. Iran sinking all our ships will take precedence.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#24. To: PSUSA2 (#23)
Very likely. FWIW, 20-some odd years ago I was told by an engineer with a big defense contractor involved in electronic warfare that the goob was monitoring all emissions between DC and light (full spectrum). I believed him then, and I believe it now. What good it does, is anybody's guess. Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#25. To: Esso, Hmmmm, O_I, RickyJ, Lod, 4 (#16)
To me it seems as if the gates of the evil empire have been opened, and the flood of rot that is pouring out daily is mind boggling. There isn't one person on this 4um that should be surprised by these daily events, but that they can no longer be contained by the media is what I find startling. We know all empires collapse over time, but this front row seat we enjoy is leaving me numb. And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns. So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Time for Madame LaFarge to get out her "Knitting Basket". Monsieur Le Guillotine may end up busily giving "haircuts". One can only hope. ... And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns.
#27. To: PSUSA2, 4um (#17) (Edited)
Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds Not good. "As for Edward Snowden, hopefully this will teach you to throw away your life to liberate a bloated and apathetic society that couldn't care less if the slaughter-gate was slammed shut behind it, and just wants to have its rose- colored blinders on in perpetuity." People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#28. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)
there's no bread let them eat cake...
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#29. To: Esso (#27)
Pew Study? Haven't thought of them since last time I listened to NPR. Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#30. To: Dakmar (#28)
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#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
'til her daddy takes her t-bird away!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#32. To: Jethro Tull, HAMASMOIS (#30)
I'll keep using old cotton towels to wash/dry my car, using Hamas skins just sounds gross, wrong, and a path to trouble. HAMASMOIS
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#33. To: Esso (#27)
Not bad. First, I would not call that 56% a "substantial majority". We are not likely to get a majority to agree with us, ever. The majority are just along for the ride and don't give a damn about anything except their own appetites. People can't even agree on what it takes to do something REALLY important: like staying out of "Hell". If you were the HNIC, would you want to fight 41% of your population? That is a lot of people, and they are the kinds of people that change things. The 56% can be trifled with at will. The 41% not so much. Quality vs quantity. I'll take quality every time. I'm surprised that 41% agree with us, since the consensus (illusion) is that americans are all sheep except a special select few. In what is likely the most disappointing, if not unexpected, news of the day, we find that according to a just released Pew Research study, a substantial majority, or 56% of Americans, "say the National Security Agency’s (NSA) program tracking the telephone records of millions of Americans is an acceptable way for the government to investigate terrorism." Only 41% object to having every phone conversation intercepted, investigated, analyzed, and recorded for posterity. Sorry Edward Snowden: you just threw your life away for nothing. The sheep have been properly and thoroughly conditioned and brainwashed, which is why they continue to get precisely the government they so rightfully deserve.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
Lay off the cookies, terrier-boy. They's carbohydrates of mass destruction. And 'cause short people got no reason... keebler
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#35. To: Dakmar, HAMASMOIS (#32)
Congratulations! We just made Obama's next NSA briefing!! 
#36. To: Esso (#34)
Was that in there :) I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH. keebler
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#35)
fuck the police!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
"Flu, &, Loin, PGP 5.53, meta, Faber, SFPD, EG&G, ISEP, blackjack, Fox, Aum, AIEWS, AMW, RHL, Baranyi, WORM, MP5K-SD" was a nick-name all the other kids called me in first grade. I finally get it. I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#39. To: Dakmar (#37)
There's always Iceland. fuck the police!
#40. To: PSUSA2 (#33)
Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
You mean that hotbed of anti-semitism where they throw criminal bankers in jail for looting the country? Incoming drone in 3... 2... 1... There's always Iceland.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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