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Title: Leaker of NSA program: ‘I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy’
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URL Source: http://www.boston.com/politicalinte ... y3yUfaYZM0EP7kWJiZO/story.html
Published: Jun 9, 2013
Author: f
Post Date: 2013-06-09 16:25:52 by PSUSA2
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A British newspaper Sunday revealed the source of the leak revealing the NSA’s extensive surveillance of US communications. Edward Snowden, a former CIA technical assistant who now works for a defense contractor with ties to the National Security Agency, asked the Guardian newspaper to reveal his identity. “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the newspaper in a remarkable, rambling interview that touched on his reasons for the leak, how he took precautions in not revealing documents that could harm particular people, how he became disillusioned, and how he expects his life as he knows it to end. “I don’t want the story to be about me. I want it to be about what the US government is doing.” “I’m willing to sacrifice all of that because I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, Internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.” The Guardian first disclosed that the NSA has been collecting cellphone metadata — time of calls, their length, their destination, but not the contents of the conversation — for many business calls within the United States and from the United States to foreign countries. Since the disclosure, President Obama and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper have acknowledged the program, saying it is an essential tool for revealing possible patterns that could lead to discovering terrorism plots. They said the program was overseen by a secret spy court. “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them.” said Snowden, who added that he has been holed up in a hotel room in Hong Kong and hopes to receive asylum, possibly from Iceland.
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#12. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this. God is always good!
Roger that. I'd say that is the understatement of this decade. Hopefully as he stated he has enough information to keep him out of harms way. It would seem to be a risky proposition to hire an intelligent, principled man to perpetrate the the acts our government considers business as usual. I wish him well and can only hope that the damage he has done is enough to wake some of the dumb asses that call themselves Americans. Though my nature does not lead me to be optimistic. “Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
The problem that our would-be tyrants face though is that there are likely to be other courageous individuals who value liberty and the welfare of all enough to take the plunge and willingly sacrifice themselves to do what is right. And that is a lot of courage. The Tyrants Who Would Be (TWWB) do not understand that viewpoint and I am sure that it scares them. Of course the apathy of the Baaing herd of Sheeple aids the TWWB but the Sheeple are so dumbed down and Psychologically cowed and controlled that they just gaze fixedly in to the Boob Toob - until the day that they are rounded up and declared unnecessary excess population. It is up to the Sheep Dogs, such as this brave young man, to protect them from their own passivity. So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess. I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Yes. I think it's time to pile it on. It's not just people like us that are pissed. It's pretty much everyone. I can see that in the article comment sections. They really stepped in it this time. People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key. Instead of alienating certain groups, they alienated everyone. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
Doubtful. You're biased due to the fact that you associate with like-minded people here at 4um and elsewhere. For the vast majority, they're oblivious. "If I'm not doin' anything wrong, I've got nuthin' to worry about." As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Yesterday on the "news", I heard a guest try and make the connection to Chinese intelligence because of the Hong Kong connection. It was as if he was embarrassed to try and make the connection. freebeacon.com/nsa-leaker-surfaces-in-hong-kong/ is something similar to what I saw. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
In Hong Kong, ex-CIA man may not escape U.S. reach
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Did bush or clinton even have this many scandals hit at one time? Not from what I can recall. And these scandals aren't about interns and cigars. " As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... " It takes all kinds. But who makes it appear that this is a universal truth in this country? The media and the kikes that own and control it. I think it's an illusion they use to try and keep us isolated. They pit us against the "sheeple", when I'm not sure anymore how many sheeple there are out there. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
Like I said, we'll see, but I'll betcha shekels for bagels this thing is Nowhereville. Even if they were to throw the JIZ figurehead under the bus, they'll just replace him with a more virulent version.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am? lol You're right though. Just have to wait and see. Perhaps we'll bomb Iran and this will all go away. Iran sinking all our ships will take precedence. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
Very likely. FWIW, 20-some odd years ago I was told by an engineer with a big defense contractor involved in electronic warfare that the goob was monitoring all emissions between DC and light (full spectrum). I believed him then, and I believe it now. What good it does, is anybody's guess. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. To me it seems as if the gates of the evil empire have been opened, and the flood of rot that is pouring out daily is mind boggling. There isn't one person on this 4um that should be surprised by these daily events, but that they can no longer be contained by the media is what I find startling. We know all empires collapse over time, but this front row seat we enjoy is leaving me numb. And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns.
Time for Madame LaFarge to get out her "Knitting Basket". Monsieur Le Guillotine may end up busily giving "haircuts". One can only hope. Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds Not good. "As for Edward Snowden, hopefully this will teach you to throw away your life to liberate a bloated and apathetic society that couldn't care less if the slaughter-gate was slammed shut behind it, and just wants to have its rose- colored blinders on in perpetuity." Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. there's no bread let them eat cake...
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Pew Study? Haven't thought of them since last time I listened to NPR. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
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'til her daddy takes her t-bird away!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
I'll keep using old cotton towels to wash/dry my car, using Hamas skins just sounds gross, wrong, and a path to trouble. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Not bad. First, I would not call that 56% a "substantial majority". We are not likely to get a majority to agree with us, ever. The majority are just along for the ride and don't give a damn about anything except their own appetites. People can't even agree on what it takes to do something REALLY important: like staying out of "Hell". If you were the HNIC, would you want to fight 41% of your population? That is a lot of people, and they are the kinds of people that change things. The 56% can be trifled with at will. The 41% not so much. Quality vs quantity. I'll take quality every time. I'm surprised that 41% agree with us, since the consensus (illusion) is that americans are all sheep except a special select few. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
Lay off the cookies, terrier-boy. They's carbohydrates of mass destruction. And 'cause short people got no reason... Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Congratulations! We just made Obama's next NSA briefing!!
Was that in there :) I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH.
fuck the police!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
"Flu, &, Loin, PGP 5.53, meta, Faber, SFPD, EG&G, ISEP, blackjack, Fox, Aum, AIEWS, AMW, RHL, Baranyi, WORM, MP5K-SD" was a nick-name all the other kids called me in first grade. I finally get it. corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
There's always Iceland.
Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. You mean that hotbed of anti-semitism where they throw criminal bankers in jail for looting the country? Incoming drone in 3... 2... 1... Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Would you rather pay 107% income tax or watch infants die of starvation on your lawn? corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
Can I have both?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. You can have it all, with the right coffee blend.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
I was assuming it was accurate, just for the sake of the discussion. ------------------------------------------ Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
Poaste of the Day. I'll add 'Schlitz Malt Liquor' to round out that list. A six-pack of that stuff is a true WMD..... Heroic.
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
You know that anyone who is reviled by such as Obama, Peter King and Diane Fineswine is probably a guy you would want to hang out with.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Heroic.
#15. To: RickyJ, Jethro Tull (#12)
Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this.
#16. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#2)
(Edited)
Heroic.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: X-15 (#10)
(Edited)
The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion. I'll start spilling some interesting 'stuff' in another week.
#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)
People understand their own personal privacy.
Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does.
IMO that is the key.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#19. To: Esso (#16)
I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor.
#20. To: 4um (#18)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#21. To: Esso (#18)
We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times.
#22. To: PSUSA2 (#21)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Esso (#22)
#24. To: PSUSA2 (#23)
Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#25. To: Esso, Hmmmm, O_I, RickyJ, Lod, 4 (#16)
So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
... And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns.
#27. To: PSUSA2, 4um (#17)
(Edited)
People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#28. To: Original_Intent (#26)
(Edited)
#29. To: Esso (#27)
Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds
#30. To: Dakmar (#28)
Repeat after me.....
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#32. To: Jethro Tull, HAMASMOIS (#30)
HAMASMOIS
#33. To: Esso (#27)
In what is likely the most disappointing, if not unexpected, news of the day, we find that according to a just released Pew Research study, a substantial majority, or 56% of Americans, "say the National Security Agency’s (NSA) program tracking the telephone records of millions of Americans is an acceptable way for the government to investigate terrorism." Only 41% object to having every phone conversation intercepted, investigated, analyzed, and recorded for posterity. Sorry Edward Snowden: you just threw your life away for nothing. The sheep have been properly and thoroughly conditioned and brainwashed, which is why they continue to get precisely the government they so rightfully deserve.
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
keebler
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#35. To: Dakmar, HAMASMOIS (#32)
#36. To: Esso (#34)
keebler
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#35)
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH.
#39. To: Dakmar (#37)
fuck the police!
#40. To: PSUSA2 (#33)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
There's always Iceland.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#42. To: Esso (#40)
Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
#43. To: Dakmar (#42)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#44. To: Esso (#43)
#45. To: Esso (#40)
Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
#46. To: Jethro Tull, Dakmar (#30)
-Alex Kurtagic
#47. To: X-15 (#46)
Do they still make Colt 45? It was positively awful shit that was guaranteed to light your central nervous system up like a Christmas tree. 'Schlitz Malt Liquor'
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
Innernet says 'Yes', Wiki says this: "Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts." Did not know that.
-Alex Kurtagic
#49. To: X-15 (#48)
Looks like this was a bad week to quit dropping acid.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#50. To: X-15 (#48)
I didn't have a clue and I'm surprised. I recall the Houston Colt 45s (Rusty Staub had one sweet swing) who later became the Astros. A player from that team would have been my guess. "Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts." Did not know that.
#51. To: Dakmar (#49)
You win at the innernet. I bow before your greatness......
-Alex Kurtagic
#52. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
This guy is very articulate and they won't be able to simply roll over him. He's right and he's telling the truth. He should be supported by every person that believes in privacy for Americans; that thinks the policing agencies should rely less on unconstitutional spying via advanced technology, and has grown weary of govt lies.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
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