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Title: Leaker of NSA program: ‘I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy’
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URL Source: http://www.boston.com/politicalinte ... y3yUfaYZM0EP7kWJiZO/story.html
Published: Jun 9, 2013
Author: f
Post Date: 2013-06-09 16:25:52 by PSUSA2
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Views: 2293
Comments: 100
A British newspaper Sunday revealed the source of the leak revealing the NSA’s extensive surveillance of US communications. Edward Snowden, a former CIA technical assistant who now works for a defense contractor with ties to the National Security Agency, asked the Guardian newspaper to reveal his identity. “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the newspaper in a remarkable, rambling interview that touched on his reasons for the leak, how he took precautions in not revealing documents that could harm particular people, how he became disillusioned, and how he expects his life as he knows it to end. “I don’t want the story to be about me. I want it to be about what the US government is doing.” “I’m willing to sacrifice all of that because I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, Internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.” The Guardian first disclosed that the NSA has been collecting cellphone metadata — time of calls, their length, their destination, but not the contents of the conversation — for many business calls within the United States and from the United States to foreign countries. Since the disclosure, President Obama and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper have acknowledged the program, saying it is an essential tool for revealing possible patterns that could lead to discovering terrorism plots. They said the program was overseen by a secret spy court. “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them.” said Snowden, who added that he has been holed up in a hotel room in Hong Kong and hopes to receive asylum, possibly from Iceland.
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#1. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
Wow. Well done, Mr.Snowden! Thank you, patriot. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Heroic.
Yep. I heard that jackass, Peter King, sniveling and whining about this tonight so that pretty much said the young man did the right thing.
Paul Craig Roberts
Can't say enough for this, but he too will find out that the PTB don't care, they'll lock up or kill anyone.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
There ought to be an award for people like him and Bradley Manning. Something Anonymous or other similar organization can give out.
Very wise words. Paul Craig Roberts
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry Mr. Snowden is a patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it. You know that anyone who is reviled by such as Obama, Peter King and Diane Fineswine is probably a guy you would want to hang out with. Paul Craig Roberts
To hell with the U.S. government, it's time for everybody to spill anything that they thought should not be disclosed. After the IRS scandals, Benghazi, and the evidently enormous amount of corruption in the Oval Orifice and Congress that goes back decades, it's time. The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion. I'll start spilling some interesting 'stuff' in another week.
#2. To: 4um (#0)
#3. To: Lod (#1)
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#4. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
“I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong,” he told the newspaper ...
#5. To: James Deffenbach, katniss, 4 (#3)
burn these words into your memory -
#6. To: Lod (#1)
Well done, Mr.Snowden!
#7. To: Lod (#5)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." - Patrick Henry
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#8. To: Lod, James Deffenbach, katniss, 4 (#5)
burn these words into your memory -
"My only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country." ~ Nathan Hale, as he was led to the British Gallows for spying against the British.
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
Mr. Snowden is a patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it.
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
#10. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#11. To: X-15 (#10)
Toody Lef will get after you if you aren't careful. Who is Toody Lef you may ask. Well, she is the dance instructor here for the IRS line dance. Has a sister named Toody Right evidently. I wonder if Toody Right has as big an ass as Toody Lef. Never fear. Toody Lef be gettin' 'em ready fo' Anaheim!
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this. Heroic.
God is always good!
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
Roger that. You know that anyone who is reviled by such as Obama, Peter King and Diane Fineswine is probably a guy you would want to hang out with.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
I'd say that is the understatement of this decade. Hopefully as he stated he has enough information to keep him out of harms way. It would seem to be a risky proposition to hire an intelligent, principled man to perpetrate the the acts our government considers business as usual. I wish him well and can only hope that the damage he has done is enough to wake some of the dumb asses that call themselves Americans. Though my nature does not lead me to be optimistic. Heroic.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#15. To: RickyJ, Jethro Tull (#12)
The problem that our would-be tyrants face though is that there are likely to be other courageous individuals who value liberty and the welfare of all enough to take the plunge and willingly sacrifice themselves to do what is right. And that is a lot of courage. The Tyrants Who Would Be (TWWB) do not understand that viewpoint and I am sure that it scares them. Of course the apathy of the Baaing herd of Sheeple aids the TWWB but the Sheeple are so dumbed down and Psychologically cowed and controlled that they just gaze fixedly in to the Boob Toob - until the day that they are rounded up and declared unnecessary excess population. It is up to the Sheep Dogs, such as this brave young man, to protect them from their own passivity. Yep, this guy is a real hero. They will take him out, they have to in order to keep the rest of their "employees" in line. The sad part is, most don't even give a damn that the federal government is even doing this.
#16. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#2) (Edited)
So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess. I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor. Heroic.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#17. To: X-15 (#10) (Edited)
Yes. I think it's time to pile it on. It's not just people like us that are pissed. It's pretty much everyone. I can see that in the article comment sections. They really stepped in it this time. People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key. Instead of alienating certain groups, they alienated everyone. The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion. I'll start spilling some interesting 'stuff' in another week.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)
Doubtful. You're biased due to the fact that you associate with like-minded people here at 4um and elsewhere. For the vast majority, they're oblivious. "If I'm not doin' anything wrong, I've got nuthin' to worry about." As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times. People understand their own personal privacy.
Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does.
IMO that is the key.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#19. To: Esso (#16)
Yesterday on the "news", I heard a guest try and make the connection to Chinese intelligence because of the Hong Kong connection. It was as if he was embarrassed to try and make the connection. freebeacon.com/nsa-leaker-surfaces-in-hong-kong/ is something similar to what I saw. I'll betcha there's plenty of "SuperPatriots" at FreepTardia, ElPee and the like that will be squalking for this guy's execution because he harmed "national security" and is a traitor.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#20. To: 4um (#18)
In Hong Kong, ex-CIA man may not escape U.S. reach
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#21. To: Esso (#18)
Did bush or clinton even have this many scandals hit at one time? Not from what I can recall. And these scandals aren't about interns and cigars. " As long as they don't take Uhmerkkin iDull off the TeeVee... " It takes all kinds. But who makes it appear that this is a universal truth in this country? The media and the kikes that own and control it. I think it's an illusion they use to try and keep us isolated. They pit us against the "sheeple", when I'm not sure anymore how many sheeple there are out there. We'll see, but don't hold your breath. We've been down this road so very many times.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#22. To: PSUSA2 (#21)
Like I said, we'll see, but I'll betcha shekels for bagels this thing is Nowhereville. Even if they were to throw the JIZ figurehead under the bus, they'll just replace him with a more virulent version.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Esso (#22)
Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am? lol You're right though. Just have to wait and see. Perhaps we'll bomb Iran and this will all go away. Iran sinking all our ships will take precedence.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#24. To: PSUSA2 (#23)
Very likely. FWIW, 20-some odd years ago I was told by an engineer with a big defense contractor involved in electronic warfare that the goob was monitoring all emissions between DC and light (full spectrum). I believed him then, and I believe it now. What good it does, is anybody's guess. Could it be that I have found someone more cynical than I am?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#25. To: Esso, Hmmmm, O_I, RickyJ, Lod, 4 (#16)
To me it seems as if the gates of the evil empire have been opened, and the flood of rot that is pouring out daily is mind boggling. There isn't one person on this 4um that should be surprised by these daily events, but that they can no longer be contained by the media is what I find startling. We know all empires collapse over time, but this front row seat we enjoy is leaving me numb. And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns. So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow. Time will tell, I guess.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Time for Madame LaFarge to get out her "Knitting Basket". Monsieur Le Guillotine may end up busily giving "haircuts". One can only hope. ... And just wait until the faux economy collapses. It's no wonder THEY are tying to grab our guns.
#27. To: PSUSA2, 4um (#17) (Edited)
Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds Not good. "As for Edward Snowden, hopefully this will teach you to throw away your life to liberate a bloated and apathetic society that couldn't care less if the slaughter-gate was slammed shut behind it, and just wants to have its rose- colored blinders on in perpetuity." People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#28. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)
there's no bread let them eat cake...
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#29. To: Esso (#27)
Pew Study? Haven't thought of them since last time I listened to NPR. Majority Of Americans Don't Mind Being Spied Upon, Pew Study Finds
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#30. To: Dakmar (#28)
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#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
'til her daddy takes her t-bird away!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#32. To: Jethro Tull, HAMASMOIS (#30)
I'll keep using old cotton towels to wash/dry my car, using Hamas skins just sounds gross, wrong, and a path to trouble. HAMASMOIS
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#33. To: Esso (#27)
Not bad. First, I would not call that 56% a "substantial majority". We are not likely to get a majority to agree with us, ever. The majority are just along for the ride and don't give a damn about anything except their own appetites. People can't even agree on what it takes to do something REALLY important: like staying out of "Hell". If you were the HNIC, would you want to fight 41% of your population? That is a lot of people, and they are the kinds of people that change things. The 56% can be trifled with at will. The 41% not so much. Quality vs quantity. I'll take quality every time. I'm surprised that 41% agree with us, since the consensus (illusion) is that americans are all sheep except a special select few. In what is likely the most disappointing, if not unexpected, news of the day, we find that according to a just released Pew Research study, a substantial majority, or 56% of Americans, "say the National Security Agency’s (NSA) program tracking the telephone records of millions of Americans is an acceptable way for the government to investigate terrorism." Only 41% object to having every phone conversation intercepted, investigated, analyzed, and recorded for posterity. Sorry Edward Snowden: you just threw your life away for nothing. The sheep have been properly and thoroughly conditioned and brainwashed, which is why they continue to get precisely the government they so rightfully deserve.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
Lay off the cookies, terrier-boy. They's carbohydrates of mass destruction. And 'cause short people got no reason... keebler
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#35. To: Dakmar, HAMASMOIS (#32)
Congratulations! We just made Obama's next NSA briefing!! 
#36. To: Esso (#34)
Was that in there :) I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH. keebler
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#35)
fuck the police!
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
"Flu, &, Loin, PGP 5.53, meta, Faber, SFPD, EG&G, ISEP, blackjack, Fox, Aum, AIEWS, AMW, RHL, Baranyi, WORM, MP5K-SD" was a nick-name all the other kids called me in first grade. I finally get it. I stopped looking at STEEPLEBUSH.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#39. To: Dakmar (#37)
There's always Iceland. fuck the police!
#40. To: PSUSA2 (#33)
Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
You mean that hotbed of anti-semitism where they throw criminal bankers in jail for looting the country? Incoming drone in 3... 2... 1... There's always Iceland.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#42. To: Esso (#40)
Would you rather pay 107% income tax or watch infants die of starvation on your lawn? Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#43. To: Dakmar (#42)
Can I have both?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#44. To: Esso (#43)
You can have it all, with the right coffee blend.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#45. To: Esso (#40)
I was assuming it was accurate, just for the sake of the discussion. Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Pew was asking people's opinions or telling them. Nothing is believable anymore.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#46. To: Jethro Tull, Dakmar (#30)
Poaste of the Day. I'll add 'Schlitz Malt Liquor' to round out that list. A six-pack of that stuff is a true WMD.....
-Alex Kurtagic
#47. To: X-15 (#46)
Do they still make Colt 45? It was positively awful shit that was guaranteed to light your central nervous system up like a Christmas tree. 'Schlitz Malt Liquor'
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
Innernet says 'Yes', Wiki says this: "Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts." Did not know that.
-Alex Kurtagic
#49. To: X-15 (#48)
Looks like this was a bad week to quit dropping acid.
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#50. To: X-15 (#48)
I didn't have a clue and I'm surprised. I recall the Houston Colt 45s (Rusty Staub had one sweet swing) who later became the Astros. A player from that team would have been my guess. "Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts." Did not know that.
#51. To: Dakmar (#49)
You win at the innernet. I bow before your greatness......
-Alex Kurtagic
#52. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
This guy is very articulate and they won't be able to simply roll over him. He's right and he's telling the truth. He should be supported by every person that believes in privacy for Americans; that thinks the policing agencies should rely less on unconstitutional spying via advanced technology, and has grown weary of govt lies.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#53. To: X-15 (#51)
corruptissima re publica plurimae leges - Tacitus
#54. To: Original_Intent (#8)
Mr. Snowden is a patriot (with huge balls) in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it. We cannot allow the PTB to lock this guy up. He exposed the rats without divulging sensitive info. We must have transparency and privacy if we expect to be free. If this govt can't deliver - fuck em. Mr. Snowden is a patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country and stands opposed to those who would enslave it.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#55. To: X-15 (#10)
Amen ! The citizenry are supposed to keep their mouths shut and file tax returns faithfully each year only to be treated like garbage? To hell with that notion.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#56. To: PSUSA2 (#17)
I'm not sure they understand the potential for fabricating or creating evidence. I think Edgar Steele may have been locked up through the use of fabricated evidence. Snowden made a valid point when he said that the spies could go back through years and years of e-mails, or phone calls, etc., and manipulate those conversations to use as evidence. It certainly wouldn't be the first time the FEDS PLANTED EVIDENCE to get a conviction and justify their putrid existence. Now they want to take DNA at birth or if you're arrested. Gimme a fuckin break ! People understand their own personal privacy. Before, it didn't personally affect them, but now it does. IMO that is the key.
Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
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Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehood’s school. And the one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
– Plato (429-347 BC)
#58. To: noone222 (#57)
Ha! Let THEM put their rings in other peoples noses.
#59. To: Esso (#41)
laughing...... Incoming drone in 3... 2... 1...
#60. To: PSUSA2 (#33)
hahahahahaha. that was funny. People can't even agree on what it takes to do something REALLY important: like staying out of "Hell".
#61. To: Esso, Jethro Tull, PSUSA2, Dakmar, X-15, noone222, O.I., all (#16) (Edited)
you and Jon Rappoport: So it would seem. Almost too good to be true, which leads my cynical mind to wonder is this isn't a made-for-TeeVee mindfuck that's going to be used against us somehow.
#62. To: Katniss (#4)
i heard that Iceland has offered Snowden asylum.
#63. To: Original_Intent, lod, all (#8)
not to downplay what this guy has done, but why is it that it seems that every six months or year there is another dramatic revelation of some govt worker sho screms 'THEYRE SPYING ON YOU! THEYRE SPYING ON YOU! yeah weve heard it all before, no? emails, phones, even fake trees on the street. maybe i'm missing something but what is so new here that was revealed that we havent known since about 911? i couldve sworn ive seen hundred of stories about verizon spying in the last decade or so. so whats the big surprise that was revealed?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#64. To: Artisan (#63)
A smoking gun, and TPTB not brave enough to deny, deny, deny. Before if you believed any of this you were a kook. so whats the big surprise that was revealed?
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
#65. To: christine, Esso, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, X-15, noone222, O.I., all (#61)
From finance.yahoo.com/
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#66. To: PSUSA2, christine, Esso, Dakmar, X-15, noone222, O.I., Lod, all (#65)
I understand Snowden has more specifics to drop. As he does, this anti number should grow.
#67. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#66)
FYI, Here's a shot at the poll results yesterday. The comments to these articles are even more lopsided. 
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#68. To: PSUSA2 (#65)
I read somewhere last night that the majority of the people thought Snowden exposing NSA wiretapping was WRONG. I'm glad to see that poll, but look here. Of course, this is CNN. I'm sure its audience was stacked.
#69. To: christine (#68)
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#70. To: christine (#68)
If that was true, I dont see how it would get the kind of attention it's getting, especially from the MSM, forget about the alternative media. Right now they are on damage control, imo. So they'll lie, distract, etc. That only fools the fools. It would be interesting to know where they got the audience in that vid. Are they employees? Interns? Or was it a random selection? Since everything is stage managed, I doubt it was a random selection. I read somewhere last night that the majority of the people thought Snowden exposing NSA wiretapping was WRONG.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#71. To: PSUSA2 (#67)
The beta, skirt wearing males @ Faux are trying their best to paint him a traitor. They ripped his g/f for "walking around their apt naked" (he lived in Hawaii) and for taking pole dancing lessons. Hell, she's my kind of woman.
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#71)
Are you serious? you're kidding, right? So now it's about the girlfriend? Being naked in their own apartment? Pole dancing lessons? Are you sure you didn't get FOX mixed up with CBN? Wow. That is getting desperate. That doesn't even make it up to the level of grasping for straws. They're clawing at the air. Faux are trying their best to paint him a traitor. They ripped his g/f for "walking around their apt naked" (he lived in Hawaii) and for taking pole dancing lessons.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#73. To: PSUSA2 (#72)
Are you sure you didn't get FOX mixed up with CBN? Wow. That is getting desperate. Nope, it's as true as April showers. I heard it myself. So now it's about the girlfriend? Being naked in their own apartment? Pole dancing lessons?
#74. To: PSUSA2 (#72)
Here ya' go www.foxnews.com/politics/...wer-says-now-lost-at-sea/
#75. To: Jethro Tull, pole dancers, 4 (#71)
Yessssssss! They ripped his g/f for "walking around their apt naked" (he lived in Hawaii) and for taking pole dancing lessons.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#76. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
It's not that I didn't believe you. I just thought it was FOX really stretching things to the breaking point, like they've been known to do on occasion. That's not as bad as I thought it would be. Not that she should be caught up in this, but I was expecting something much worse.
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#77. To: All (#75)
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#78. To: Lod (#75)
Sir Lod... Here is where Snowden got part of his statement... It is very interesting as it is about Nazi Germany and the SS... I have not seen this posted elsewhere. " The Architecture of Oppression: The SS, Forced Labor and the Nazi Monumental Building Economy" Cyni...
#79. To: Cynicom (#78)
Hey! Great to see'ya and thanks for the info. Stay awhile...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#80. To: Lod, 4 (#77)
(you might not like the music, but,,,)
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Why should we worship in God what we detest in man? -Robert Ingersoll
#81. To: Cynicom (#78)
hi Cyni! i am interested in your post, but i'm going to have to read the thread to follow what you are referring to. i will do that later this evening. good to see you...
#82. To: Artisan (#63)
The big surprise is the scope. Simpsons and family guy make fun of an all seeing total surveillance state. Turns out we are being spied upon through the dish washer. All of our emails are being monitored, all of our phone calls are being recorded. Not some. ALL! All is a very big word. so whats the big surprise that was revealed?
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#83. To: christine (#81)
Here is brief synopsis of the book " The Architecture of Oppression" This book re-evaluates the architectural history of Nazi Germany and looks at the development of the forced-labour concentration camp system. Through an analysis of such major Nazi building projects as the Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds and the rebuilding of Berlin, Jaskot ties together the development of the German building economy, state architectural goals and the rise of the SS as a political and economic force. As a result, The Architecture of Oppression contributes to our understanding of the conjunction of culture and politics in the Nazi period as well as the agency of architects and SS administrators in enabling this process". Snowden is a deep reader, far above the likes of those in Washington.
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#71)
The poor bastard! Oh, the humanity! They ripped his g/f for "walking around their apt naked" (he lived in Hawaii) and for taking pole dancing lessons.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#85. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
She seems to be a pretty decent writer. It'd be neat if she posted here. And gave me a private pole dance. Here ya' go
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#86. To: Cynicom (#83)
Good to see you, OM. You've been missed.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#87. To: Esso (#86)
Thank you...not staying. I have not seen any reference in the media as to where Snowden got the term he used in his TV statement. I received query as to why no media has mentioned it, are they ignorant or intentionally being quiet about the obvious connection. Read the synopsis and it is clear where Snowden is coming from, he has read history and is doing his part to awaken Americans to this corrupt government.
#88. To: Cynicom (#83)
As a systems administrator , I'd say a higher intellect is/was expected of mr snowden. Snowden is a deep reader, far above the likes of those in Washington.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
#89. To: PSUSA2 (#80)
Pole dancing will be the next Olympic Games event, both Winter and Summer. The pole rules.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#90. To: Cynicom (#83)
seems so. or it's possible that many in Washington know about and understand this blueprint, but they stay mum. Snowden is a deep reader, far above the likes of those in Washington.
#91. To: Esso (#85)
I hear you Jim. Your thought bring me back to my short stint in the Narcotics division in the early 70s. The city was ours to play in, and we did. The bad guys couldn't give up their competition quick enough, and the competition couldn't turn snitch fast enough. Who needed the NSA, CIA, or the FBI when our best "data mining" was done by s'bags and was 100% accurate. And gave me a private pole dance.
#92. To: Artisan, Lod, all (#63)
Perfectly valid point. Just speculating but it could be that they are working at desensitizing people to the thought that their rights and privacy are being continuously violated. not to downplay what this guy has done, but why is it that it seems that every six months or year there is another dramatic revelation of some govt worker sho screms 'THEYRE SPYING ON YOU! THEYRE SPYING ON YOU! yeah weve heard it all before, no? emails, phones, even fake trees on the street.
#93. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#92)
Start using StartPage.com to search, and they'll soon have StartMail - both as secure as can be possible in this insane world.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#94. To: Lod, original_intent, all (#93)
yes Dr Katherine ALbrecht author of spychips (and one of my favorite radio hosts) works for startpage and has done shows on their upcoming email program. they will charge $5 a month for the private mail but i will use it and appreciate them. you can sign up for the free beta program which will be out some time soon. give it a try for free! Start using StartPage.com to search, and they'll soon have StartMail - both as secure as can be possible in this insane world
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#95. To: Artisan (#94)
Dang! I haven't heard of the charge for StartMail. Are you sure of this? Thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#96. To: Lod, Artisan (#95)
However, I don't think it will have ads and it does cost them to provide the service. I am familiar with Katherine Albrecht and she does seem to be on the up and up.
#97. To: Original_Intent, Artisan, StartFans, 4 (#96)
I just wrote the Dear Doctor and asked her about this as well as about hooking up with Kim Dotcom's new Mega cloud servers. Right now, I assume that everything I do on the interweb is captured and recorded somewhere. Eff'em.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#98. To: Lod (#97)
Ditto. ;-) The problem that the Psychotics in charge are running into now is that too many people are on to what they are doing and there is increasing restiveness. It will very soon be past the point where they can put the lid back on and clamp down, and their own flunkies are getting disgusted enough to start talking about what is really going on. This isn't over yet, but there are a few cards in their house that are wobbling. Psychotics know only one thing - how to destroy. They are incapable of building something lasting. Eff'em.
#99. To: Original_Intent, lod (#98)
yes, theyre up front about the fact they will charge & i have no problem with it. google etc their business is data mining so they make $ on that. This will be a private mail service for about $60 annual. i appreciate the option.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#100. To: All (#98)
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