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Title: Marines Get Naked & Have Fun (Video)
Source:
News Of The World
URL Source: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml
Published: Nov 27, 2005
Author: Lewis Panther
Post Date: 2005-11-27 12:43:26 by Red Jones
Keywords: Marines, (Video), Naked
Views: 178
Comments: 35
EXCLUSIVE:Thug NCO orders men to strip off and fight..then KICKS one unconscious. News of the World investigates RITUAL ABUSE OF OUR MARINES By Lewis Panther THE News of the World exposes the bullying culture of Britain's elite armed forces with a secret video documenting a sickening catalogue of abuse. A young Royal Marine is FORCED into a barbaric naked fight with another recruit and then KICKED unconscious by a superior in a brutal booze-fuelled initiation ceremony. And the shocking ritual—covertly filmed by a commando—is alleged to be one of many imposed on recruits. To watch the video, click on one of the links below. WARNING: THIS FILM CONTAINS SCENES OF VIOLENCE AND NUDITY. Windows Media Connection: click on the source url to see the video of the naked marines having fun http://astream.net/links/notw/joining_run_300.asx Now the film is being investigated by Ministry of Defence top brass who have confirmed it is genuine. Our source claims the culprit holds senior rank. The Marines would not confirm his position but an MoD source said: "He's not an officer but he is an NCO." They identified the 42 Commando marine—dressed in a blue surgeon's outfit—who carried out the attack and he is being disciplined. But our whistleblower reveals the beating that could have KILLED the young recruit in this video is one of many chilling secret initiation ordeals he has witnessed as a marine. A veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq, he said: "This is the worst thing I've seen happen—that's why I filmed it—but it's the tip of an iceberg. Electrodes "The guy laid out was inches away from being dead. Stuff like this goes on all the time—but when drink becomes involved it gets worse." The whistleblower went on to reveal how marine recruits were: TORTURED with shocks through electrodes attached to their genitals FORCED to crawl naked through thorn bushes ORDERED to jump out of bedroom windows, even though some broke their legs, and URGED to fight each other with one hand tied behind their backs. "The top boys in the Royal Marines know this all goes on but they turn a blind eye to it," said our marine. The violent initiation ceremony he filmed took place in May at Bickleigh Barracks, near Plymouth, home to the elite 42 Commando. "They call them Joining Runs—or Sprog Olympics—because sprog is slang for baby and these were new recruits," said the marine. "12 of them were taken to a barbecue on the top field with about 40 other marines watching. "Their superior was getting them to do stranger and stranger things, while getting them p***** and picking on any who didn't do what he wanted. "He was getting more and more menacing, swearing and threatening. He ordered them to take their clothes off and run round the field giving each other naked piggy backs. "Then the fighting started. The bloke disappeared and came back with the surgeon's outfit, mask and cap on and things really turned nasty when he ordered them to start laying into each other. You can see it on their faces in the film that they're scared." Naked fellow marines surrounding them can be heard baying for blood as the man in the surgeon's outfit and another in a St Trinian's uniform, complete with wig and short skirt, supervise the cruel contest. First the hapless pair have rubber mats strapped to their arms and start slugging away. Then they are told to remove their mats and square up with bare fists before being ordered on to their knees to wrestle. Then the ‘surgeon' lashes out and hits him in the head with a martial arts kick practised by marines as part of their unarmed combat techniques. "He used his shin which is what you're taught to do in kick boxing. Your shin is as hard as a baseball bat," said our marine. Broken "He could have killed the guy. If that kick caught him on the temple, that would have been it. Lights out for good. The guy on the floor was unconscious for a couple of minutes—and was sick when he came round. He had to be helped away. His boss just stood there with a can of wifebeater (the marines' name for Stella Artois lager) while the guy was out cold, goading the others to have a go at him if they dared. But we knew we couldn't." This attack was hushed up. But there are many other ordeals awaiting new recruits, said our marine. "I've seen new recruits have electronic pads from massage machines attached to their testicles and heads," he said. "I've known of recruits who have broken their legs jumping out of windows. I had to jump out of a window into a thorn bush. I've seen others thrown naked into thorn bushes and have to crawl through them. Recruits are also made to fight each other with a giant boxing glove on one hand and the other tied behind their back." After seeing the video, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "The Royal Marines take these allegations extremely seriously. The Service Police have launched an investigation." The men dressed as a surgeon and a St Trinian's schoolgirl are being disciplined and new orders have been issued banning ‘Joining Runs'—and threatening to prosecute anyone who takes part. "Marines need to be tough and training should be tough. You don't want wimps," said our source. "But what happened on the film doesn't help anyone."
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
Is this how it was when you were in the Marines?
"But what happened on the film doesn't help anyone." Life imitating art? It sounds like a bad Van Damme movie.
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
Kaye Griggs' ex-husband was in the US Army, he is a Colonel. He commanded an important group that trains and operates assassins. She said that homosexuality was very common for a portion of the military. She said the high ranks were full of it. She said they had a term - 'cherry marine' to describe some of the marines. She said that in particular in the Marines there is a strong effort to indoctrinate in a homosexual manner. If you first compromise an individual with extreme sexual perversion such as promiscuous or ritual homosexuality done frivilously at parties, and you develop a sexual perversion in the person from the time they're young, then this is a means of nurturing a person to be a foot soldier for the evil that the higher-ups will want. By developing a military force with lots of homosexualism and perversion in it, you can get that force to go along with evil more effectively than otherwise would be the case. She says it's done on purpose by the higher-ups who are very evil. She says for the marines they have many rituals where they get the guys naked and have fun. This type of a culture is going on in the US marines and other US military forces is what Kaye Griggs says. She should know in that her drunkard husband would come home, drink and then talk about it for 11 years.
Easy enough to see the character-building and espirit de corps that is involved here.
I bet they're enjoying that.
Dubya to the serfs: "It's Raining!"
towards the end of the video the guy in the surgeon outfit who the article identifies as a high-ranking NCO gives a karate kick to the face of one of the naked combatants and knocks the guy out cold. But what happens immediately prior to that? We don't for sure exactly what prompted the karate kick, but immediately prior to when it happens the guy who received the blow apparently tries to kiss the other naked combatant. Look at the guy hold his opponent and put his lips two inches from the other guy's lips - it is homosexual in character, and then immediately the higher-ranking NCO delivers the knock-out blow.
No it wasn't, but why do you ask? Do you want to get naked with a bunch of men?
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
I'm too old & flabby to join the Marines. and 'no' I don't want to get naked with a bunch of men.
Nation builders, in all their glory. What a mess.
fyi
Isn't this the Royal Marines? And why all the hostility towards you? As far as I have seen, you have been very civil on this forum.
Yes, it is the British Royal Marines, but to some on the anti-homosexual crusade, that doesn't matter. They just see the word Marine and begin to salivate. As for the hostility toward me, I'm finding that some free speech advocates are only for free speech as long as you agree with them. If you don't agree, you are a shill for whatever you do believe in.
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
I support your right to say what you think. No problem from me. I even like you.
You gay?
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
Now I know it's nearly a crime to use the term "moral" on this board now days, but what do you think of this behavior as it affects an elite fighting force? (I'm not familiar with them, but I assume the English Marines have a reputation similar to our own) I'd have to say it scares me.. Nothing could be worse than an undiciplined, amoral force... Well trained and armed to the teeth, acting as your ambassadors. Much has been made of the Mercs and their actions in Iraq.. From what I have read, the problem is not that they're capable of killing efficiently, it's allegedly their lack of morality and restraint.
Dubya to the serfs: "It's Raining!"
What they are doing is building camaraderie, not anything homosexual. These men will live and die together in combat situations. If they cannot act the way they do, there will always be that bit of doubt which could cost you your life. Why the NCO drop kicked the other Marine is beyond me. I thought he was going to plant a fake kiss on the guy as a joke.
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
well they're not undisciplined. But there is a very evil cadre throughout our military and this evil cadre is being expanded and raised up even into leadership. As Kay Griggs said - the good people are systematically discriminated against. Today the marines & the army have a very evil war to fight. It requires that the soldiers become mind-numbed and unable to think about good & evil, it requires that the soldiers be seduced into evil, that they grow to appreciate it. The people who staff our military are actively encouraging the type of culture that they need to fight a series of evil wars. In the military today you could be told to kill civilians very easily, and if you don't go along, then you'll be a bad guy. Today moral people and the US military mix as well as oil & water.
Where does your military expertise come from?
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
I'm glad you noticed how that NCO kicked the guy RIGHT AFTER he was looking like he was going to actually KISS the other guy. Like Kay Griggs said - in the Marines today (more so than the Army) there is a group that uses homosexuality as part of its culture. When that one guy was going to kiss the other guy - we were seeing it. They mix homosexuality into the mix during boot camp, they push the guys to try it as a means of comraderie, dealing with life, etc., but they don't want the guys to actually be gay, they just want the guys to dabble in it. They still want the guys to be able to have wives & families. But they want that gay streak in the people that the military will use long-term. It's easier to get a guy to assassinate strangers who are civilian non-combatants if you get them to accept a little sexual perversion. People are more easily controlled to do evil things under that condition. That is why it is done. Like Kay Griggs said - there is a lot of unnecessary group nudity in the marines in particular. I know this video is from the UK Marines, but Kay Griggs was talking about the US Marines. The Marines get a kick out of the group nudity thing, they like it. Warriors bonding and having sex together. Like the japanese knights from centuries ago - they made homosexuality part of their culture. Like the greek army in the time of Alexander - homosexuality was a part of their culture. We're seeing that type of a culture orchestrated into the US military. This video is evidence of that inculcation occurring in the UK. The same evil people rule both countries. I think it a little much to think it necessary for men to frolic around naked like this in order to build good soldiers. Did George Washington use that training technique at Valley Forge? Somebody should tell the Log Cabin Republicans about it if it is true. But it is not. We're witnessing perversion - we're witnessing it for a reason, because the people who rule over us are evil, and they use evil means to accomplish evil things.
well, I've never been in the military myself, but I fired a cap gun. Regardless, this has no bearing on my ability to think or discuss these things we're discussing.
where does your homosexual expertise come from? (oh I forgot you were in the marines)
Male bonding gone wild?
Kay Griggs is full of crap and obviously has an agenda. There was no homosexuality while I was in the Corps. Is she a disciple of Fred Phelps?
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
Nice spin.
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
And you obviously didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express either.
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
I saw a movie recently about American soldiers. The whole movie focused on their experiences training for war. They really focused on the group nudity thing in the showers. The people who made the movie were doing it for homo- erotic effect. It's cool now you know. and it is a new aspect of the US military for exactly the reasons I said earlier above.
where does your homosexual expertise come from? (oh I forgot you were in the marines) Nice spin. well, it seemed you didn't think I should be expressing my views unless I'd been in the military. So I figured in your logic that a person must have first- hand experience with anything to comment on. And I saw you have a lot to say about the homosexual threads, so I figured you must have experience in these matters. Then it hit me - you were in the marines.
In regard the the Griggs video btw.. what she was talking about wasnt the rank and file but those who were in leadership positions.. and I will say that some of what she was saying was rather outlandish.. although considering what was reported and in the WP about the WH and child prostitution seemed outlandish but .. apparently true.
Actually I questioned your knowledge, not your view.
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
Give them a bond that includes some private shame. I am given to understand that among certain elite corps, there is a hidden selection for shorter men. Excuses are made, like "you have to be a certain height to fit in the cockpit, so since these super guys can't be pilots...," but the real reason is a carefully crafted psychological conditioning program that uses deep-seated insecurities to control the subject's motivation. I have heard of similar things about penis size -- covertly categorizing good performers by height and penis size, then selecting the mid-to-short(on both criteria) for special training. The psych part of the training involves exposure to influences that exacerbate their insecurites, for example, put a short, small-penised guy in the showers with a bunch of tall, large-penised men and mock him(covertly orchestrated, of course), et cetera. The idea is that you then capitalize on the fact that this person feels, very deeply, that he has something to prove or to make up for. You can get a man like this to consistently push himself much harder for you. Get some guys like this together in a group, and you have something you can really work with, if you use it right.
I downloaded 8 separate one hour videos of her interview that occurred I think in 1998. In all those videos she said a lot of things. She focused more on the high-ranking people, but she said that at boot camp even there were homosexual shennanigans that were being cultivated. Kay griggs said some outrageous things. One thing she said was that Henry Kissinger was extremely gay. SHe said back in the Vietnam War he was over in SE Asia and raped a male US Navy captain. and in order to keep that rape victim quiet they put him in a mental institution for the rest of his life and drugged him up constantly. Look at this guy - Jeff Gannon - he has a web site advertising 'military studs'. and Gannon is brought into the White House. We see a lot of this stuff with the scandals you mentioned and such. Because of that IMO it is not so easy to just dismiss Kay Griggs' wild stories.
Agreed.. I just think we shouldnt believe everything without primary documentation.. we can find things suspicious but be a big skeptical.. but I will say that considering some of the other things that have been shown to be true.. its quite possible her story is credible.
this fellow Rabble Rouser stated in #30 exactly how it is. There is an actual military purpose for encouraging homosexuality in the ranks. And I contend that it is being done. So did Kaye Griggs - she said that some of these assassins they have are turned into assassins after some pre-conditions are met. One of those pre-conditions is that the person has been lured into sexual perversion.
A good way to blackmail ..
Your cracking me up.
#2. To: Red Jones (#0)
"Marines need to be tough and training should be tough. You don't want wimps," said our source.
#3. To: All (#0)
#4. To: Red Jones (#0)
#5. To: Red Jones (#0)
The men dressed as a surgeon and a St Trinian's schoolgirl are being disciplined ...
#6. To: All (#0)
#7. To: Red Jones (#1)
Is this how it was when you were in the Marines?
#8. To: 82Marine89 (#7)
#9. To: Red Jones, all (#0)
#10. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#11. To: 82Marine89 (#1)
#12. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#11)
#13. To: 82Marine89 (#12)
I'm finding that some free speech advocates are only for free speech as long as you agree with them. If you don't agree, you are a shill for whatever you do believe in.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)
I even like you.
#15. To: 82Marine89 (#12)
#16. To: Jhoffa_ (#15)
#17. To: Jhoffa_ (#15)
Nothing could be worse than an undiciplined, amoral force... Well trained and armed to the teeth, acting as your ambassadors.
#18. To: Red Jones (#17)
#19. To: 82Marine89 (#16)
#20. To: 82Marine89 (#18)
Where does your military expertise come from?
#21. To: 82Marine89 (#18)
Where does your military expertise come from?
#22. To: Red Jones (#0)
#23. To: Red Jones (#19)
#24. To: Red Jones (#21)
where does your homosexual expertise come from? (oh I forgot you were in the marines)
#25. To: Red Jones (#20)
well, I've never been in the military myself, but I fired a cap gun.
#26. To: Zipporah (#22)
Male bonding gone wild?
#27. To: 82Marine89 (#24)
#28. To: Red Jones (#26)
#29. To: Red Jones (#27)
#30. To: Red Jones (#19)
but they don't want the guys to actually be gay, they just want the guys to dabble in it.
#31. To: Zipporah (#28)
what she was talking about wasnt the rank and file but those who were in leadership positions..
#32. To: Red Jones (#31)
Look at this guy - Jeff Gannon - he has a web site advertising 'military studs'. and Gannon is brought into the White House. We see a lot of this stuff with the scandals you mentioned and such. Because of that IMO it is not so easy to just dismiss Kay Griggs' wild stories.
#33. To: Zipporah, Rabble Rouser (#32)
#34. To: Red Jones (#33)
#35. To: Red Jones (#27)
well, it seemed you didn't think I should be expressing my views unless I'd been in the military. So I figured in your logic that a person must have first- hand experience with anything to comment on. And I saw you have a lot to say about the homosexual threads, so I figured you must have experience in these matters. Then it hit me - you were in the marines.
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