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Title: Keiser: The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/keiser-the- ... nt-bankster-regime-is-upon-us/
Published: Jun 17, 2013
Author: Max Keiser
Post Date: 2013-06-17 13:22:26 by Horse
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Views: 6126
Comments: 64

We’re in a post-capitalist, post-socialism world. I have just come back from the G8 protests in Belfast and it occurred to me – at this point; we’re post both capitalism and socialism – and this point needs to be made clear, but we also see some vestiges of both systems in a new, emerging economy that has yet to be named.

I agree with the G8 protesters in Belfast that capitalism – as it’s been iterated in the West in the post WWII era has run its course. The main cause for its demise, as I see it, is that during the 1980’s; thanks to deregulation, futures and options speculation and leverage migrated over to the burgeoning field of ‘financial futures’ and the price discovery mechanism associated with supply and demand and the ‘invisible hand’ – over the ensuing few decades – completely broke down. Money itself lost any anchor to value as futures traders speculated with virtually no risk on contracts worth many billions that had been willed into existence by financial engineers not by dint of any underlying economic activity.

And there’s no going back now. You see, financial futures are trading on prices that are based – not on any underlying economic reality – but rather a series of assumptions based on academically-concatenated theories and theorems which in turn generate a new set of prices. The result is that capital flows into destabilizing ‘malinvestments’ all hidden by the outsized returns of intermediaries like hedge funds who make billions mining what has become essentially a broken system of monetizing fraud.

Since the rising unemployment and social unrest these financially engineered malinvestments produce is ignored, because hedge funds have been making lots of money, nobody is willing to step forward and suggest that making money at the expense of a sound market might be a bad thing. The fake prices are never questioned and the fraudulently garnered riches are always celebrated.

Prices for all commodities and securities have permanently lost their connection to a functioning economy. Once a pickle, never a cucumber. Financialized capitalism is now in its death throes.

What about socialism?

As that term is generally understood – it has also burnt out. Central planning, hierarchical governments, and doctrines guaranteeing ‘fairness’ simply don’t work; primarily because all centrally planned systems of markets and governments fail the ‘naturalness’ test. Nothing in nature works for long that is so rigid and unadaptable as man made experiments in central planning except for a few parasites and cancer.

Today we have hybrid models that contain bits from the previous schools that are racing ahead to fill the vacuum left by collapse of both capitalism and socialism.

Crowdfunding is an emergent idea. It owes a debt of gratitude to socialism. It’s part of ‘social networking,’ a phenomenon of leveraging the ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ idea. Keep in mind that Google’s multi-billion dollar valuation is driven by billions of individuals donating their time and creativity to the collective. So too for ‘open-source’ software and p2p file swapping. But there is also a necessary component of competition associated with free market capitalism in crowd funding. A platform like Kickstarter allows for ideas to compete in a free market – where the funds flow where the market goes; not where a central planner wants funds to go.

Bitcoin is also a post capitalism/socialism hybrid. It’s growth is driven by a hard coded, centrally imagined algorithm while it’s adoption is possible via the free market activities of users who are rejecting centrally planned, bogus fiat currencies like Pounds, Dollars, and Yen and using Bitcoin instead.

The collapse of the current bankster regime is upon us. This means a whole new set of winners and losers. The point is that it’s not all grim. The future is being imagined and implemented as we speak.

Special for Infowars from Max Keiser, host of Russia Today’s Keiser Report, a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines. See his latest report discussing the price holograms in a simulated economy.


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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

The Collapse of the Current Bankster Regime is Upon Us

Max has a limited perspective.

I really cannot wait for the FED to collapse. It has been robbing the people blind for too many years.

What we will get in its place is hard to tell at this point. But, hopefully those traitors in the District of Criminals will get some spines and give us something honest that we can all live with.

I hear Bitcoin has a few advantages over traditional fiat currency.

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-06-17   16:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   19:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)

There is no money since the abrogation of the gold standard. All debts MUST be discharged. ;)

Interesting.

There is also NO CONSTITUTION for the same reason, at least not in the jurisdictional environment of COMMERCE where debt is monetized but it's not constitutional money.

As long as we had Constitutionally authorized "MONEY" we had a Constitution.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-17   20:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222, BTP Holdings (#3)

As you know, I just don't think of commerce and the money system as having any actual jurisdictional legitimacy that supplants/nullifies the Constitution. I know it seems so, what with the artficial stratosphere the operators there have devised as if they're above Constitutional law like Olympiads and can impose their dictats on us who do abide by the Constitution as our real government. But, let's pause that debate and focus instead on what BTP said about the abrogation of the gold standard meaning that all debts must be cancelled. Sounds good to me. How about you?

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-06-17   23:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GreyLmist (#4)

But, let's pause that debate and focus instead on what BTP said about the abrogation of the gold standard meaning that all debts must be cancelled. Sounds good to me. How about you?

Your positions are based in emotion with little regard for facts.

I too, long for constitutional governance but there is no evidence that the gargantuan machination we call the UNITED STATES (a commercial entity) has any intention of forfeiting its commercial stranglehold on its "customers" that have VOLUNTARILY entered the commercial arena via convenience agreements based upon debt based commercial paper.

The courts are bound by these agreements (contracts) because the constitution clearly allows for the making of contracts without government interference.

As fars as "all debts must be discharged" goes that's a given. In an absolute debt based system absent real money - the only means of resolving debt is by discharge which doesn't EXTINGUISH the debt through payment but merely relieves the debtor of his/her obligation to honor the "promise to pay." Everyone in this system of finance is a liar and a thief because the promise to pay CANNOT be kept.

noone222  posted on  2013-06-18   6:23:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222, GreyLmist, BTP Holdings (#5)

I agree with parts of what you all have said and disagree with a little.

I am generally more optimistic in the long run. What I would like to see emerge from the wreckage that will be the only remnant that the monsters in The City of London really created is a more open architecture economically. A system which is neither Corporatism (which is what we have now) or Socialism (A failed idea based upon stealing from the productive to give to the unproductive). Basically enterprises owned by the people who work there. I call it "People's Capitalism". The model has emerged in a few places, but where the elite's can they have stomped it out of existence. For example a small steel mill near where I used to live was being shut down by the large corporation that owned it saying that it was not profitable enough. Unfortunately for the people in the area it was the only major employer in the area, and the workers did not want to be thrown out on their asses when the mill closed.

The response was that the workers, and local managers, got together, mortgaged everything they owned (basically) and bought the facility. Two years later the now verrry profitable operation had earned enough to where the workers were able to pay off the debt they had taken on when they bought the company. The business flourished because they had more incentive - it was THEIR business. Theft virtually ceased, and everyone worked even harder because it was THEIR business. They ended up making more money than when the business had been corporate owned and they all smiled happily on their way to the bank.

Unfortunately the elites must have noticed as when a major airline (United I believe) was going bankrupt a few years later the workers tried to buy the company, but NONE of the major banks would loan them one thin dime.

Moral of the story - we are more powerful than the criminals are and they know it, and fear US.

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-07-20   4:56:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#40)

A system which is neither Corporatism (which is what we have now) or Socialism (A failed idea based upon stealing from the productive to give to the unproductive). Basically enterprises owned by the people who work there.

One of the worlds first CAPITALISTS and a leader in founding socialism, Robert Owen, had different opinions in promoting the first days of socialism.

Socialism did NOT breed Capitalism, rather Socialism is the bastard child of Capitalism and Government, the two working in tandem to extract maximum wealth from the masses for the benefit of the few.

The masses owning and operating capitalist production was also tried by a socialist movement called Communism in the Soviet Union, it also failed.

Regardless of the name or intent, wealth ALWAYS moves upward from the masses to the few at the top, society has always operated this way and will never change. The masses work, changing yokes now and again for whatever "ISM" that holds the gun.

Cynicom  posted on  2013-07-20   9:23:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom (#42)

Owens' "New Lanark" was a different breed. It was effectively State Capitalism - a "benevolent" Hive. Owens was always puzzled why it didn't work.

What I am talking about is NOT Communism - where "everybody owns everything in common" and "everbuddy be eekwul". That is not ownership. No, when I say employee owned I mean exactly that - a share in the business where wages and benefits are determined by how successful the business is, and you have real managers that are hired, are themselves owners, and while receiving a larger portion commensurate with the level of responsibility, with their pay dependent as well upon how well the company performs. It is little different than a stock company except that all of the stock is owned by the people who work there and to work there you have to be willing to accept the terms i.e., be an owner and assume responsibility for the success or failure of the business.

While there would be, in a successful enterprise, an accumulation of wealth by the participants (which I view as good) by limiting "share" ownership to the people who actually work there (with only 1 share per person) you eliminate the class of bloodsuckers who just buy shares and then sit on their ass waiting for a check in the mail.

The organization of businesses along those lines would not be mandatory, but given sound managerial practice they would rather quickly leave our existing traded stock companies (corporations) in the dust.

The key difference between what I am suggesting and communism is that the businesses still compete in a free market, receive no guffermint handouts (or control), and if they don't produce a valuable product, like any other business, they go under. The difference is the dreaded "R" word - RESPONSIBILITY. The people who work there are each individually, from their own hat, responsible for the success or failure of the enterprise.

I am not, per se, a "utopian", but I have seen similar operations in practice and they do work. The two keys are real ownership, and hence real responsibility.

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